On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Marc Perkel wrote:
> If any of my customers fail to get any email that they are supposed to
> get then that's not acceptable.
I think that's a big problem right there. Since when did "guaranteed
delivery" become part of email?
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John Hardin KA7OHZICQ#15735746http:
Hi,
I'm not sure if I can feed non-english email to
sa-learn. I have default ok_languages and ok_locales
and Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::TextCat also loaded.
Can I train it?
I have read the man page of TextCat but still don't
understand the concept of language support of
Spamassassin.
Here is th
Spamassassin -r is supposed to be used to report spam that sneaks thru.
According to the wiki it feeds it back into bays, and spamcop and Razor2
etc.
Most of the spam I see creeping in is just over the limit, its already
marked as spam, often based largely on the bayes score, but seldom
know to
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > since you are using qmail, you should consider lowering the incoming
>> > concurrency
>> > along with the maxchildren
>> >
>> > Wolfgang Hamann
>> >
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>> Is 255 a high value?
>>
>> --
Hi,
it means that 255 receptions may go on at
Hi there,
at the moment I have the rules_du_jour script running every week and I
have the script below running every night telling SpamAssassin to learn
what I can from the uses junk mail folders, but I still seam to get a lot
of junk mail that gets past the scanners, can anyone make any suggestio
Sa can itself only classify mail as ham or spam. You have a third category
here, "unwanted ham". You will need something else in the mail chain,
perhaps procmail or something like that, to help make this distinction.
What you can do is write a rule that will detect this particualr kind of
ma
Michele Neylon :: Blacknight.ie wrote:
Marc Perkel wrote:
So if I used SPF then I would lose email
to these customers.
No you wouldn't unless someone was doing some kind of demented hard fail
Yes - and other people do use hard fail.
Gino Cerullo wrote:
I am curious though. Why do you "think SRS is a bad idea" and what
makes it "clearly a mistake." You appear to feel strongly about this
but without an explanation it's hard to fathom why. Please elaborate.
Because I do conditionals based on the from address and if th
Title: Message
-Original Message-From: Marc Perkel
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:43
PMTo: Michael ScheidellCc: Daryl C. W. O'Shea;
Spamassassin Users ListSubject: Re: SPF breaks email
forwarding
If any of my customers fail to get any email
John D. Hardin wrote:
Hint to spammer: pick *only one* random subject line!
This reminds me of the 419 scams I've started seeing where they pasted
their message into the subject field instead of the message body.
The subject is 50 lines long about transferring a zillion bucks out of
$countr
On 25-Jul-06, at 6:34 PM, Michele Neylon wrote:
After some of the "clever" implementations I've seen NOTHING would
surprise me
The word "muppetry" springs to mind :)
Ahh, but that's why I qualified my statement by saying, "Nobody in
there right mind..."
I notice your SPF record ends
Marc Perkel wrote:
> So if I used SPF then I would lose email
> to these customers.
No you wouldn't unless someone was doing some kind of demented hard fail
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Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions
Quality Business Hosting & Colocation
http://www.blacknight.ie/
Tel. 1850 927 280
Intl. +353 (
On 25-Jul-06, at 6:34 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
Many people, including me, think SRS is a bad idea. So I'm not
getting on board with a system that is clearly a mistake.
That's fine. You, along with everyone else, are entitle to your
opinion. Furthermore, you along with those people are free to
If any of my customers fail to get any email that they are supposed to
get then that's not acceptable. It does happen and when it does - I fix
it. Several of my customers forward email from other account to
accounts that pass through my servers. So if I used SPF then I would
lose email to these
From: "enediel gonzalez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello
I'm using spamassassin 3.0.3-2 and every night I update it rule sets from
some web pages available.
But my concern is if exists a place on internet acting as the main
institution for this issue, I'm using a set of pages tested by others,
l
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 03:28:27PM -0700, Bret Miller wrote:
> SpamAssassin, by nature, is community developed. The only official rule
> sets are the ones distributed with SpamAssassin, and (beginning with
> version 3.1.3) updated by sa-update.
Just for correctness, sa-update started in 3.1.1 actu
Many people, including me, think SRS is a bad idea. So I'm not getting
on board with a system that is clearly a mistake.
Gino Cerullo wrote:
Hello, is this really Marc? ;-)
Sorry about the rant Marc, if that's you. I understand why you can't
or won't implement SPF and I don't blame you under
1) /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
2) /etc/mail/spamassassin/my_added.cf
3) ~/user_prefs
None of those will be changed with updates. Although you may have to
make some manual changes to local.cf. That is why something like the
second option may be better. The third allows it on a per user basis.
> I'm using spamassassin 3.0.3-2 and every night I update it
> rule sets from some web pages available.
>
> But my concern is if exists a place on internet acting as the main
> institution for this issue, I'm using a set of pages tested
> by others,
> located on different places, and every night
Michael Scheidell wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You find me a large scale installation that is actually checking, and
rejecting on, SPF records before DATA and isn't frequently rejecting
mail their users want and I'll buy you lunch.
Yo
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 16:02 -0600, Nels Lindquist wrote:
> On 25 Jul 2006 at 14:17, Craig White wrote:
>
>
>
> > http://www.mailscanner.info/linux.html
> >
> > This is the information page for installing MailScanner on RPM based
> > Linux system.
> >
> > If you read this, you will see that eve
On 25-Jul-06, at 5:05 PM, Bill Landry wrote:
I only recently got spamassassin up and running and am hardly an
expert but
can anyone explain to me exactly what spf is?
See http://www.openspf.org/ for detailed information on SPF.
Bill
There is also http://new.openspf.org/
If you are really
> Has any one implemented SA 3.1.2 or 3 on MS Windows (win32)?
> If so are they stable on win32?
3.1.3 is solid on Windows Server 2003 here. Even sa-update is working
(with GPG even after some patching).
Bret
Gino Cerullo wrote:
> Nobody in there right mind rejects on a
> SOFTFAIL.
After some of the "clever" implementations I've seen NOTHING would
surprise me
The word "muppetry" springs to mind :)
--
Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions
Quality Business Hosting & Colocation
http://www.blac
On 25 Jul 2006 at 14:17, Craig White wrote:
> http://www.mailscanner.info/linux.html
>
> This is the information page for installing MailScanner on RPM based
> Linux system.
>
> If you read this, you will see that even though you are using an rpm
> based system, you download a tarball package,
On 25-Jul-06, at 5:05 PM, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:I'd settle for just well defined, and actually usable.Or we could just wait until it actually works right.That sounds reasonable. If the protocol is as sound as it appears to be, the MTA developers will make an effort to implement it. If not, then
> -Original Message-
> From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 3:13 PM
> To: Spamassassin Users List
> Subject: Re: SPF breaks email forwarding
>
>
>
> You find me a large scale installation that is actually checking, and
> rejecting on, SPF r
Oh, get off your high horse for a minute and stop trolling.
This is a straw man argument, and I'm having none of it.
SPF and forwarding don't go together, fine, I accept that.
That does not make it useless, however - far from it.
Don't reject at the MTA level based on things like SPF.
Instead,
Hi,
since you are using qmail, you should consider lowering the incoming concurrency
along with the maxchildren
Wolfgang Hamann
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've some troubles with spamassassin. Sometimes (and i don't know why
>> exactly) my server has high load (like 50 or 60 or more) so it's
>> impossib
Hi - let's keep this on list OK?
answer at bottom
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 13:19 -0700, Cabell, Dale wrote:
> I am confused. Are you recommending that I not use RPM with the tarball
> and instead untar and use the script?
>
> Please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Dale Cabell
>
> -Original Message
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Stuart Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:53 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: traveling user unable to email
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
-Original Message-
From:
-Original Message-
From: Stuart Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:53 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: traveling user unable to email
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stuart Johnston [mai
I am using SpamAssassin 3.13 on Mac OS 10.3.9 in conjuction with Eudora
Internet Mail Server 3.2.8. Looked for an answer to this question on the
wiki FAQ, but didn't see an answer. Apologies if I have somehow missed it.
So far, SpamAssassin is doing a very good job of catching a lot of spam that
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Stuart Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:19 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: traveling user unable to email
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
I'm really getting frustrated her
-Original Message-
From: Stuart Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:19 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: traveling user unable to email
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
>
> I'm really getting frustrated here
>
> I whitelisted
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
I'm really getting frustrated here
I whitelisted all her email addresses and aliases
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] fcimail.org
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] familycareintl.org
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] fcimail.org
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL
-Original Message-
From: Stuart Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:01 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: traveling user unable to email
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
> Hi all I have a user that is now in Africa and she is unable
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
Hi all I have a user that is now in Africa and she is unable to send to any
external user using outlook , and when attempting to use Eudora she gets a
"your message scored 6.7 points"
I have whitelisted her in my local.cf but Eudora stills gives her the
message congratul
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Lindell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I only recently got spamassassin up and running and am hardly an expert but
can anyone explain to me exactly what spf is?
See http://www.openspf.org/ for detailed information on SPF.
Bill
I only recently got spamassassin up and running and am hardly an expert but
can anyone explain to me exactly what spf is?
Tom
-Original Message-
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:13 PM
To: Spamassassin Users List
Subject: Re: SPF breaks em
Gino Cerullo wrote:
involved that prevent them from implementing it. Until the default
behaviour of an MTA is to implement SRS or SRS can easily be implemented
I'd settle for just well defined, and actually usable.
in existing MTAs this will continue to be a problem. We'll just have to
liv
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 14:16 -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> FWIW, Dale's been mailing me privately where I've been answering, but just for
> everyone's info:
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:04:18AM -0700, Cabell, Dale wrote:
> > Where do I put the tar? After I untar it, where do I execute the
> > r
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:22:54AM -0700, Cabell, Dale wrote:
> It shows it was installed as a package, but I can't find the "rpmbuild"
> command.
As stated in a previous (private) email, all of this package stuff depends on
your platform. For me, on Fedora Core 4, rpmbuild is part of the rpm-bui
It shows it was installed as a package, but I can't find the "rpmbuild"
command.
Dale Cabell
-Original Message-
From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:17 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Help for beginner
FWIW, Dale's been mailin
FWIW, Dale's been mailing me privately where I've been answering, but just for
everyone's info:
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:04:18AM -0700, Cabell, Dale wrote:
> Where do I put the tar? After I untar it, where do I execute the
> rpmbuild from?
"rpmbuild -tb" says to build a binary RPM from a tarbal
Hello, is this really Marc? ;-)
Sorry about the rant Marc, if that's you. I understand why you can't
or won't implement SPF and I don't blame you under the circumstances.
It's just that your statement was at best obvious and at the same
time incomplete. A more accurate statement would have
-Original Message-
From: Cabell, Dale
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:54 AM
To: 'Theo Van Dinter'
Subject: RE: Help for beginner
Where do I put the tar? After I untar it, where do I execute the
rpmbuild from?
Thanks,
Dale Cabell
-Original Message-
From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto
-Original Message-
From: Cabell, Dale
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:56 AM
To: 'Theo Van Dinter'
Subject: RE: Help for beginner
Do I untar first and compile before making the package? What directory
do I put the tar in?
Where is the rpmbuild command? Is it in the tar?
Dale Cabell
--
Hello
I'm using spamassassin 3.0.3-2 and every night I update it rule sets from
some web pages available.
But my concern is if exists a place on internet acting as the main
institution for this issue, I'm using a set of pages tested by others,
located on different places, and every night I
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 10:38:14AM -0700, Cabell, Dale wrote:
> How do I tell if the version I have was installed using yum, Make, etc?
You can probably figure out if it's a package or not. "rpm -q spamassassin" ?
> Where can I get a precompiled version? The tar file seems to be the only
> avail
I need to upgrade from 3.06 to 3.1.3.
How do I tell if the version I have was installed using yum, Make, etc?
Where can I get a precompiled version? The tar file seems to be the only
available download.
How do I tell where the functionality, which is now in additional
plugins was previously? I n
Hi all I have a user that is now in Africa and she is unable to send to any
external user using outlook , and when attempting to use Eudora she gets a
"your message scored 6.7 points"
I have whitelisted her in my local.cf but Eudora stills gives her the
message congratulations blah blah blah
Thi
I don't have an SPF record because I refuse to support a broken
technology. SPF breaks email forwarding. My users use forwarding. SMTP
is broken - but I can't change that. I have to be compatible with the
rest of the world.
Gino Cerullo wrote:
Whether it's SPF, DKIM, a combination of both or s
Whether it's SPF, DKIM, a combination of both or something completely
new, the laissez-faire attitude of the past toward SMTP just doesn't
cut it anymore. Criminals (and yes, I consider anyone who forges an
identity to hide who they are a criminal no matter their intent) have
taken advantag
Ram is cheap - I say put 4 gigs in.
Golden, James wrote:
If you do the math out, I would bump it down to 10 -15. AT 15 you
would be using 675mb of RAM (likely). Since you have other things that
still need to run, you need to leave some space open. We currently
have ours set to 8, and
If you do the math out, I would bump it down to 10 -15. AT 15 you would be using 675mb of RAM (likely). Since you have other things that still need to run, you need to leave some space open. We currently have ours set to 8, and we have umteen thousand messages handled a day with 2 gig of RAM
Gary G. Taylor wrote:
>
> And here is a header from a beliefnet (gag) message SA caught:
>
> X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP,
> HTML_80_90,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY
> autolearn=no version=3.0.4
>
>
> How the fs
Just a quick question. If I add an entry into the configuration file to
block all emails sent from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", that should block
anyone trying to send emails into my mail server using my companies domain
as a spoof. The question is.. Will this end up quarantining all emails sent
to mycom
WrackWeb - Jean Respen wrote:
> Bowie Bailey wrote:
> > WrackWeb - Jean Respen wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've some troubles with spamassassin. Sometimes (and i don't know
> > > why exactly) my server has high load (like 50 or 60 or more) so
> > > it's impossible to connect via ssh, everythin
WrackWeb - Jean Respen wrote:
Hello,
I've some troubles with spamassassin. Sometimes (and i don't know why
exactly) my server has high load (like 50 or 60 or more) so it's
impossible to connect via ssh, everything crash (apache, qmail, vpopmail,
etc...) and i have to go to the datacenter to rebo
Bowie Bailey wrote:
WrackWeb - Jean Respen wrote:
Hello,
I've some troubles with spamassassin. Sometimes (and i don't know why
exactly) my server has high load (like 50 or 60 or more) so it's
impossible to connect via ssh, everything crash (apache, qmail,
vpopmail, etc...) and i have to go to t
I have noticed that several spams are getting through because they have
entries in the Auto White List, sometimes with very large numbers.
Here is a sample header from a message not flagged as spam:
Return-Path:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from mailrelay03.walmart.com (161.170.254.40) by wes
Jul 22 00:00:01 adlsrv4 spamd[15294]: Use of uninitialized value in hash
element at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/Message/Metadata/Received.pm
line 357, line 199.
Jul 22 00:00:04 adlsrv4 spamd[15294]: Use of uninitialized value in exists
at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
WrackWeb - Jean Respen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've some troubles with spamassassin. Sometimes (and i don't know why
> exactly) my server has high load (like 50 or 60 or more) so it's
> impossible to connect via ssh, everything crash (apache, qmail,
> vpopmail, etc...) and i have to go to the datacent
Hello,
For the brave among you, beta version of Apache module implementing
spamd is ready for testing. Early benchmarks show almost 50% increase
in performance.
It's not production ready yet (see documentation for various TODOs),
but... if *you* won't test it, it never will. ;-)
http://issues.a
Hello,
I've some troubles with spamassassin. Sometimes (and i don't know why
exactly) my server has high load (like 50 or 60 or more) so it's
impossible to connect via ssh, everything crash (apache, qmail, vpopmail,
etc...) and i have to go to the datacenter to reboot the server... and if
i'm able
Hi All
If I have a situation in which , some users had
subscribed to some mailing list , after some time
they forget they did subscribed to so and so list and
thats the reason they are receiving such mails ,now
they request that all those mails they do not want in
their inbox , i
On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 02:28:14PM -0500, Stuart Johnston wrote:
> This is just a warning that you can ignore. If it bothers you, the best
> solution would be to upgrade to 3.1.3. Alternately, you could try this on
> your lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm:
Thanks Stuart!
Regards
Johann
--
Johann
This is pretty low - phishing as The Red Cross :-(
But their fake Web site is interesting. It has links to both Hacker Safe
and Verisign. Which confirms that american.redcross.org are "good"
sites. Unfortunately the site those links are on is actually
redcross.needs.us.to
You'd think both those c
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