Re: [OT] Fw: Interesting Phishing Trick

2006-03-10 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 10:05:15AM -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > However, this rule does trigger on the technique I sent. I want to work on > the nested anchor idea as well but in the meantime, I'd like to hear > feedback on this trigger. It seemed REALLY spammy to me. Anyone get any > hit

Re: HTML Validator

2006-03-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Friday, March 10, 2006 9:43 PM -0700 Philip Prindeville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you mean: http://validator.w3.org/source/ I thought that was just a web form-based validator. I'll have to look at it to see if the validator can be run over an attachment (ie. an HTML MIME part) from

Re: Amavisd replacement suggestion

2006-03-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Friday, March 10, 2006 9:09 PM -0500 Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It might even pass the *message* whole to the scanners.. I know most tools like clamav can deal with being fed a raw mime-822 message and parse out all the attachments, decompress them, scan them, without any extern

Re: HTML Validator

2006-03-10 Thread Philip Prindeville
Kenneth Porter wrote: > Anyone know of a good validator that can be run over a MIME part to report > on the quality of the HTML? This might be used as a go/no-go filter at > milter level, or it could be used as an SA plugin to assign a variable > score based on the quality of the HTML. > > For

Re: Via HTTP??

2006-03-10 Thread NW7US, Tomas
I'll be going through all scripts installed on the server. I've limited quite a bit, already. PHP is really really bad. But, I've done a heck of a lot to close things down. I'm sure I missed something, somewhere, in the scripts. What a pain, running multiple domains for others. My scri

Re: Amavisd replacement suggestion

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Michael Grant wrote: > Between Mailscanner and Amavisd-new, it seems we need one or the other > of these programs to recursively dig into and possibly uncompress a > message with attachments to be able to virus scan it completely. Actually MailScanner does NOT recursively dig into compressed atta

Re: more pharmacy woes

2006-03-10 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, March 10, 2006, 8:07:44 AM, Payal Rathod wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 04:07:34PM +0530, Dhawal Doshy wrote: >> Do you use SURBL (surbl.org), URIBL (uribl.com) and collaborative >> network tests like razor/pyzor/dcc? > No, can you please tell in short how to use surbl exactly? I am

Re: Amavisd replacement suggestion

2006-03-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:32 AM +0100 Michael Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Between Mailscanner and Amavisd-new, it seems we need one or the other of these programs to recursively dig into and possibly uncompress a message with attachments to be able to virus scan it completely. Does Ma

Re: Never seen this in headers before

2006-03-10 Thread Michael Grant
Any header with X- in front of it is a non-standard mail header and any mailer can stick one of those in if it wants. This was probably stuck in by your mailer. I did a google search for this header and there are lots and lots of messages out there with this header in it near or at the top. Mich

Re: Never seen this in headers before

2006-03-10 Thread Kelson
Lisa Casey wrote: X-EMS: wait 10s X-EMS: wait 20s X-EMS: wait 30s Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from p2148-ipbf504marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp (p2148-ipbf504marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [221.191.114.148]) etc What's with the X-EMS wait stuff? I couldn't say for sure, but they remind m

Re: Amavisd replacement suggestion

2006-03-10 Thread Michael Grant
Between Mailscanner and Amavisd-new, it seems we need one or the other of these programs to recursively dig into and possibly uncompress a message with attachments to be able to virus scan it completely. Does Mailscanner do as effective a job as Amavisd in this regard? When I installed Amavisd a

Never seen this in headers before

2006-03-10 Thread Lisa Casey
Hi, I got a couple of those image only spams today but there was something different at the top of the headers that I'ld never seen before. Headers: X-EMS: wait 10s X-EMS: wait 20s X-EMS: wait 30s Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from p2148-ipbf504marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp (p2148-ipbf

HTML Validator (was: Interesting Phishing Trick)

2006-03-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:46 PM -0800 Kenneth Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Makes me wonder about installing outbound filters that run a validator and reject anything that fails. I often see flame wars on mailing lists about allowing HTML posts to the list, but I wonder how the argumen

Re: Via HTTP??

2006-03-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Friday, March 10, 2006 4:17 PM -0800 jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But also check out the mail scripts you have. I don't have any such so I don't pay attention to specifics. But they have been known to have various vulnerabilities that get addressed over time. If you got the script from som

Re: Via HTTP??

2006-03-10 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Friday, March 10, 2006 9:52 AM -0800 Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmm, Fedora Core 2 is officially EOL'd. Are you updating things manually, or through Fedora Legacy? Fedora Legacy does show an Apache update released on Feb. 18: http://fedoralegacy.org/updates/FC2/ And subscribe to th

Re: Via HTTP??

2006-03-10 Thread jdow
From: "NW7US, Tomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JDOW: I run Fedora 2 (RedHat) Linux. I've updated most everything. I've not updated to the very latest Apache. Perhaps that's needed. How would I go about determining if indeed I have a vulnerability such as what you are hinting at? I watch log

Re: trusted_networks seems to be ignored after upgrade

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Eric W. Bates wrote: > Eric W. Bates wrote: >> Matt Kettler wrote: >> >> ... >> >>> No, it could fire on *ANY* external IP that isn't the first hop. > I don't think I was clear. I don't question that any IP in the chain > might cause the difficuly. I was questioning why, if 127.0.0.1

Re: Spamd keeps getting hung up!

2006-03-10 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: On 3/10/2006 11:22 AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: I of course have no idea what to make of this output. Pointers? Each line is one file descriptor. So it doesn't appear that it's using an insane number of them. Next time spamd hangs u

Re: Spamd keeps getting hung up!

2006-03-10 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 3/10/2006 11:22 AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: I of course have no idea what to make of this output. Pointers? Each line is one file descriptor. So it doesn't appear that it's using an insane number of them. Next time spamd hangs up, you might want to do this check though. I'm

Re: trusted_networks seems to be ignored after upgrade

2006-03-10 Thread Eric W. Bates
Eric W. Bates wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: > > ... > >>No, it could fire on *ANY* external IP that isn't the first hop. I don't think I was clear. I don't question that any IP in the chain might cause the difficuly. I was questioning why, if 127.0.0.1 is the problem, why it

RE: SA rule for userid in subject?

2006-03-10 Thread Ruben Cardenal
That doesn't kill performance, sorry. I get average times of 0.1-0.3 seconds/mail using that rule (and a lot of other ones) while the cpu lives happily. In several servers. You don't need a plugin for that. Ruben > -Mensaje original- > De: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Enviado

Re: trusted_networks seems to be ignored after upgrade

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Eric W. Bates wrote: > > > Matt Kettler wrote: >>> Eric W. Bates wrote: >>> Matt Kettler wrote: > Eric W. Bates wrote: > > >> I recently upgraded from 2.63 to 3.1 and having done so, my entries for >> trusted_networks no longer seem to functional. >> >> I hav

Re: SA rule for userid in subject?

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Ruben Cardenal wrote: > Hi, > > Loren answered that a month ago. Is in the archives. You may use: > > header RULE_NAME ALL =~ /\nTo: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).+\nSubject:\s*Fw: > .{0,30}\s*\1\b/i > > That covers "Fw: userid" and "Fw: (some word[s]) userid". > True, but that's using () and \1, w

Re: SA rule for userid in subject?

2006-03-10 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:59:09PM -0500, Jonathan Engbrecht wrote: > I'm seeing a lot of image-only spam of the following form: > > rcpt to: @domain.com > Subject: Fw: Yeah, there's a lot of that. > Is there a way to create a simple spamassassin rule that will hit on > this? I could use ()

RE: SA rule for userid in subject?

2006-03-10 Thread Ruben Cardenal
Hi, Loren answered that a month ago. Is in the archives. You may use: header RULE_NAME ALL =~ /\nTo: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).+\nSubject:\s*Fw: .{0,30}\s*\1\b/i That covers "Fw: userid" and "Fw: (some word[s]) userid". Ruben. > -Mensaje original- > De: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: trusted_networks seems to be ignored after upgrade

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Eric W. Bates wrote: > Eric W. Bates wrote: >>> Matt Kettler wrote: >>> Eric W. Bates wrote: > > ... Maybe.. Were there any untrusted hosts in-between 68.64.105.61 and your network in the Received: headers? >>> >>> No. But even if there were, wouldn't the rule

Re: trusted_networks seems to be ignored after upgrade

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Eric W. Bates wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: >> Eric W. Bates wrote: >> >>> I recently upgraded from 2.63 to 3.1 and having done so, my entries for >>> trusted_networks no longer seem to functional. >>> >>> I have way to many trusted network lines, but in particular I know that: >>> >>> trusted_netwo

Re: trusted_networks seems to be ignored after upgrade

2006-03-10 Thread Eric W. Bates
Matt Kettler wrote: > Eric W. Bates wrote: > >>I recently upgraded from 2.63 to 3.1 and having done so, my entries for >>trusted_networks no longer seem to functional. >> >>I have way to many trusted network lines, but in particular I know that: >> >>trusted_networks68.64/13 >> >>is no longer

Re: SA rule for userid in subject?

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Jonathan Engbrecht wrote: > hello assassin-types, > > I'm seeing a lot of image-only spam of the following form: > > rcpt to: @domain.com > Subject: Fw: > > Is there a way to create a simple spamassassin rule that will hit on > this? I could use () and \1 in regular expressions and a giant,

Re: trusted_networks seems to be ignored after upgrade

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Eric W. Bates wrote: > I recently upgraded from 2.63 to 3.1 and having done so, my entries for > trusted_networks no longer seem to functional. > > I have way to many trusted network lines, but in particular I know that: > > trusted_networks68.64/13 > > is no longer working because: > > Con

SA rule for userid in subject?

2006-03-10 Thread Jonathan Engbrecht
hello assassin-types, I'm seeing a lot of image-only spam of the following form: rcpt to: @domain.com Subject: Fw: Is there a way to create a simple spamassassin rule that will hit on this? I could use () and \1 in regular expressions and a giant, multi-line matching RE (probably), but I'

trusted_networks seems to be ignored after upgrade

2006-03-10 Thread Eric W. Bates
I recently upgraded from 2.63 to 3.1 and having done so, my entries for trusted_networks no longer seem to functional. I have way to many trusted network lines, but in particular I know that: trusted_networks68.64/13 is no longer working because: Content analysis details: (5.9 points, 5.0

Re: Via HTTP??

2006-03-10 Thread Kelson
NW7US, Tomas wrote: I run Fedora 2 (RedHat) Linux. I've updated most everything. I've not updated to the very latest Apache. Perhaps that's needed. Hmm, Fedora Core 2 is officially EOL'd. Are you updating things manually, or through Fedora Legacy? Fedora Legacy does show an Apache update

Re: Via HTTP??

2006-03-10 Thread Mike Jackson
And I note that the .67 machine alias "prop.hfradio.org" includes a comments page. That script could be vulnerable if updates to the OS are not fully installed. I've done quite a bit of buttoning up, here. I'll take a closer look at this, too. Maybe this is obvious, but from experience, mak

Re: Possible plugin for SA

2006-03-10 Thread Adeoye Oke
--- Loren Wilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rather than a custom plugin, I think you are looking for > a custom wrapper > around SA. People have written such things for blog > software, which would > not be too much different from your use. You could > probably also do some > creative routin

Re: Possible plugin for SA

2006-03-10 Thread Loren Wilton
Rather than a custom plugin, I think you are looking for a custom wrapper around SA. People have written such things for blog software, which would not be too much different from your use. You could probably also do some creative routing to run the mail through spamd and get a result back. Obviou

RE: Latest spammers' trick - email address in body instead of url

2006-03-10 Thread Randal, Phil
I think email addresses should be scored differently from urls. Clicking on an email address isn't going to take you to a site which auto-installs all manner of malware on your PC. But these spams are still a nuisance - especially to us thankless admins who get enormous amounts of hassle from our

Re: Spamd keeps getting hung up!

2006-03-10 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: On 10/03/06 12:50 AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: As I'm not a C programmer, I don't know what the relation is between a kqueue and an FD -- but could it be related? kqueues use FDs, so they are related. If that original dccifd process (PI

Re: more pharmacy woes

2006-03-10 Thread Payal Rathod
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 04:07:34PM +0530, Dhawal Doshy wrote: > Do you use SURBL (surbl.org), URIBL (uribl.com) and collaborative > network tests like razor/pyzor/dcc? No, can you please tell in short how to use surbl exactly? I am very new to SA. > Also the pasted spam originates from a korean

Re: Latest spammers' trick - email address in body instead of url

2006-03-10 Thread qqqq
Sorry all, It didn't go through. Let me find another way to send it. - Original Message - From: "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Craig McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Randal, Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Latest spammers' trick - email ad

Re: Latest spammers' trick - email address in body instead of url

2006-03-10 Thread qqqq
Here is one I have; body only: - Original Message - From: Brown Lane To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 6, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: billing | Not seen any of these yet, any chance of some examples? | | C.

Re: Via HTTP??

2006-03-10 Thread NW7US, Tomas
JDOW: I run Fedora 2 (RedHat) Linux. I've updated most everything. I've not updated to the very latest Apache. Perhaps that's needed. How would I go about determining if indeed I have a vulnerability such as what you are hinting at? I watch logs pretty closely, but cannot farret out t

Re: Latest spammers' trick - email address in body instead of url

2006-03-10 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 10/03/06 10:26 AM, Matt Kettler wrote: Randal, Phil wrote: Hi folks, We're seeing increasing amounts of spam coming in which the email's body contains seemingly innocuous (but obviously irrelevant) text plus an email address for more information. With no urls in the message, uribls are usel

Re: Latest spammers' trick - email address in body instead of url

2006-03-10 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Randal, Phil wrote: > Hi folks, > > We're seeing increasing amounts of spam coming in which the email's body > contains seemingly innocuous (but obviously irrelevant) text plus an > email address for more information. > [snip] Phil, Not seen any of t

Re: Latest spammers' trick - email address in body instead of url

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Randal, Phil wrote: > Hi folks, > > We're seeing increasing amounts of spam coming in which the email's body > contains seemingly innocuous (but obviously irrelevant) text plus an > email address for more information. > > With no urls in the message, uribls are useless... > > Currently we've had sp

Latest spammers' trick - email address in body instead of url

2006-03-10 Thread Randal, Phil
Hi folks, We're seeing increasing amounts of spam coming in which the email's body contains seemingly innocuous (but obviously irrelevant) text plus an email address for more information. With no urls in the message, uribls are useless... Currently we've had spams with emails from (AT) nicereal

Re: Possible plugin for SA

2006-03-10 Thread Adeoye Oke
--- Raymond Dijkxhoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > > If something like this could be implemented, the way > > content filters are; it could go a long way to reduce > SPAM > > generated through free webmail providers. > > Those free webmail providers can also filter outgoing > mail, ri

Re: more pharmacy woes

2006-03-10 Thread Jeremy Fairbrass
You could also easily filter based on the subject, if it's always something obvious like "Parhamcy news", and perhaps on obvious misspellings like "tabIet", "abIets" etc (note the i in stead of l). And I don't think it would be too hard to create a special rule to search for a long string of indivi

Re: Possible plugin for SA

2006-03-10 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! If something like this could be implemented, the way content filters are; it could go a long way to reduce SPAM generated through free webmail providers. Those free webmail providers can also filter outgoing mail, right? Bye, Raymond.

Possible plugin for SA

2006-03-10 Thread Adeoye Oke
Hi list, I would like to know if anyone has ever tried to use SA as a SPAM filter for POST requests from a proxy server. Why I ask this is simple. I have found SA to be very effective in the control of SPAM when I have control over the SMTP server through which users send mail. However, I have a

Re: Via HTTP??

2006-03-10 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NW7US, Tomas wrote: Ok, this one is new to me. Can someone guide me as to where my security is broken, if I get these headers on a message? Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on helios.hf

Why does SPF need HELO to verify?

2006-03-10 Thread Chris Purves
I have found that most mail I receive has received headers as: Received: from sesame.csx.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.41]) by aurora.northfolk.ca (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1FHfBB-0006Bq-GL for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Mar 2006

Re: more pharmacy woes

2006-03-10 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
We've been seeing the same thing. It died out for a while, now the fire hose has been opened again. The latest batch seems to be in "Living Color" too. Different colors for different characters. Mark At 05:22 AM 3/10/2006, Payal Rathod wrote: Hi all, I need help in decoding pharmacy spam

Re: more pharmacy woes

2006-03-10 Thread Loren Wilton
I assume there was an html side of that that you didn't post, or else that site ate it. There isn't a huge amount to go on in what you posted. The net checks are probably the best bets, along possibly with Bayes. The target uri should show up in SURBL, and there is a good chance the source ip wo

Re: more pharmacy woes

2006-03-10 Thread Dhawal Doshy
Payal Rathod wrote: Hi all, I need help in decoding pharmacy spam again. I am getting 100s of them. I have attached them at, http://pastebin.ca/45108 Do you use SURBL (surbl.org), URIBL (uribl.com) and collaborative network tests like razor/pyzor/dcc? Also the pasted spam originates from a k

more pharmacy woes

2006-03-10 Thread Payal Rathod
Hi all, I need help in decoding pharmacy spam again. I am getting 100s of them. I have attached them at, http://pastebin.ca/45108 Can someone tell how to block these things out? With warm regards, -Payal

Re: Via HTTP??

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Kettler
NW7US, Tomas wrote: > Ok, this one is new to me. Can someone guide me as to where my > security is broken, if I get these headers on a message? > >> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on >> helios.hfradio.org >> X-Spam-Status: