Re: update on floating dividing score between spam and ham messages

2005-07-10 Thread Joe Flowers
Loren Wilton wrote: This is quite interesting, and seems reasonably obvious that with the right sort of mail (at least, maybe with any mail) this shoudl work better, since it self tunes to your conditions. It does of course assume a reasonable fp/fn rate to start, but SA is generally pretty goo

RE: Rule: envelope to <> header to - help?

2005-07-10 Thread Herb Martin
> Does anyone have a rule to chech the envelope To: against the header > to: ? I'm sure that there's a reason why it's allowed to be > different, but it doesn't apply here, and almost half of the > spam that gets thru everything else would get stopped by that. [First I am new here and so may kno

Re: Restart to learn spam/ham

2005-07-10 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Thomas Booms wrote on Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:40:56 +0200: > due to some config probs i believe, i need to learn the machine > spams/hams new. How can i do that? Delete the Bayes db files (files starting with "bayes_"). Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Servic

Rule: envelope to <> header to - help?

2005-07-10 Thread Michael W Cocke
Does anyone have a rule to chech the envelope To: against the header to: ? I'm sure that there's a reason why it's allowed to be different, but it doesn't apply here, and almost half of the spam that gets thru everything else would get stopped by that. Thanks! Mike- -- Mornings: Evolution in ac

Re: md5sum/sha1sum signatures available, was RE: Gif-Only spams

2005-07-10 Thread Dirk Bonengel
Just to add my 2 Euro-Cent: Something like this might actually exist (in as far as gif-only spams are of interest). Bert Ungerer, an editor with the German IT magazine 'iX', developed a procmail-based AntiSpam-System he called 'NiXSpam'. One part of it is a list of MD5-hashes of parts of the bo

SA 2.63 vs 2.64

2005-07-10 Thread Matthias Fuhrmann
Hello, nearly a year ago, i had trouble upgrading to 2.64. the problem ist still present. running 2.64 leads to mass syslog filling due to this lines: Jul 10 22:41:35 xx spamd[15244]: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /opt/gnu/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/Mail/S pamAs

Re: messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 7/10/2005 4:56 PM, Loren Wilton wrote: > Rawbody will miss the subject, so you will need to add a test for that too. I'm not looking for that -- Eric A. Hallhttp://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/

Re: messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread Loren Wilton
Rawbody will miss the subject, so you will need to add a test for that too. Loren

Re: messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 7/10/2005 3:49 PM, Loren Wilton wrote: > However, if you want something like this, just off the top of my head: > > header __HAS_TOTo =~/\S/ > body__HAS_BODY/\S/ > metaEMPTY_MSG(!__HAS_TO && !__HAS_BODY) Good idea. rawbody works better but the model is right. -- Eric A.

RE: messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
> > Anybody got a rule that will catch messages that don't have a body? > 3.1.0-pre3 has this already... - # __MIME_ATTACHMENT defined in 20_html_tests.cf body __NONEMPTY_BODY/\S/ meta EMPTY_MESSAGE !__MIME_ATTACHMENT && !__NONEMPTY_BODY describe EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appe

Re: messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread Loren Wilton
> I guess I should have asked the obvious question: > > "and if so, could you post it?" Well, I'd hoped that the 'draconian' would detract from that idea. But since you ask anyway, I went looking. And discovered that I *don't* have a rule for this anymore! I'm just getting by on the SARE rules

Re: messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 7/10/2005 3:12 PM, Loren Wilton wrote: >>> Anybody got a rule that will catch messages that don't have a body? >>> > > There are things like that around. I have a rather draconian pesonal > rule I use. There is a much milder form in one of the SARE rulesets. > The problem is you can't chec

Re: messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread Loren Wilton
> This brings up a question. Why are these sent out? To validate addresses > perhaps? Virtually all of the ones I see typically also lack either or both of a subject and a To: address. They very typically have some header information mangled also. My belief is that one of the spammer tools (I

Re: Remote tests and candidate scam rules

2005-07-10 Thread Loren Wilton
Hi Cedric. Welcome to the group. I can make some suggestions, although I can't answer all your questions. 1.You should almost certainly have the SURBL rules enabled. Maybe this is what you mean by spamcop rules, or maybe that is something else. The SURBL rules should be enabled by default

Re: messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread Rob Skedgell
On Sunday 10 Jul 2005 19:00, wrote: > This brings up a question. Why are these sent out? To validate > addresses perhaps? B0rked malware infestations? -- Rob Skedgell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pgpF0vvzd8FmL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: update on floating dividing score between spam and ham messages

2005-07-10 Thread Loren Wilton
This is quite interesting, and seems reasonably obvious that with the right sort of mail (at least, maybe with any mail) this shoudl work better, since it self tunes to your conditions. It does of course assume a reasonable fp/fn rate to start, but SA is generally pretty good about that. How have

Re: messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread qqqq
This brings up a question. Why are these sent out? To validate addresses perhaps? - Original Message - From: "Eric A. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:48 AM Subject: messages with no body Anybody got a rule that will catch messages that don't ha

messages with no body

2005-07-10 Thread Eric A. Hall
Anybody got a rule that will catch messages that don't have a body? -- Eric A. Hallhttp://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/

Re: rpm installation and dependencies

2005-07-10 Thread Steve Sobol
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Thanks, I had a look at it. Unfortunately, looks like too much work compared to --nodeps ;-) That's the way I'd do it. I'd much, MUCH rather install Perl modules via CPAN than have to go resolve RPM dependencies. If there's an RPM available that works with my distro, grea

Re: SURBL, SA 3.0.4, and firewalls

2005-07-10 Thread JamesDR
Dr Robert Young wrote: Is there documentation available on all the prerequisites and setup necessary for it to operate correctly? On Jul 9, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 07:47:22PM -0400, Dr Robert Young wrote: Is there any information available on what c

Re: SURBL, SA 3.0.4, and firewalls

2005-07-10 Thread Dr Robert Young
Is there documentation available on all the prerequisites and setup necessary for it to operate correctly? On Jul 9, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 07:47:22PM -0400, Dr Robert Young wrote: Is there any information available on what configuration your firewal

Re: md5sum/sha1sum signatures available, was RE: Gif-Only spams

2005-07-10 Thread Rob Skedgell
On Sunday 10 Jul 2005 06:41, William Stearns wrote: > Good evening, all, > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Chris Santerre wrote: > >> From: Sven Riedel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:19 AM > >> > >> has anyone developed a good strategy against spams > >> that contain a random

Restart to learn spam/ham

2005-07-10 Thread Thomas Booms
Hi all, due to some config probs i believe, i need to learn the machine spams/hams new. How can i do that? Thomas -- Booms EDV - hosting & more - Herrenstrasse 10 D-59073 Hamm www.booms-edv.de [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Remote tests and candidate scam rules

2005-07-10 Thread Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie
Cedric Knight wrote: > > 1) About a year ago, SpamCop seemed to be the single most > useful test, catching a majority of spam with few of the > reputed false positives. > A weighting of 3.0 seemed right. In the past 2 or 3 months, > the proportion of spam marked by SpamCop seems to have > fallen,

Re: subject - why not all caps?

2005-07-10 Thread hamann . w
>> > I just received this spam (some of them really get their stuff translated >> well now) but was >> > surprised that it did not trigger subject all caps rule >> >> Out of curiosity, that wouldn't happen to be a Nigerian spam in German, >> would it? >> >> Loren >> >> Hi, sure so...

update on floating dividing score between spam and ham messages

2005-07-10 Thread Joe Flowers
I don't know if this will help anyone or not, but I wanted to report back just in case. In early April, I completely unhinged the dividing line between what SA score is used to mark a message as spam or ham (5.00 = default). This allows the system and this dividing line to drift "freely" to an

Re: subject - why not all caps?

2005-07-10 Thread Loren Wilton
> As for the all caps rule, it is hard to understand why it was written not to fire on a single > excessively long word. I'll take a guess at that one: Single word caps subjects are likely to be an acronym or similar, and are moderately likely, at least in US business mails. I suspect the 'exces

Re: subject - why not all caps?

2005-07-10 Thread Loren Wilton
> I just received this spam (some of them really get their stuff translated well now) but was > surprised that it did not trigger subject all caps rule Out of curiosity, that wouldn't happen to be a Nigerian spam in German, would it? Loren

spamassassin with GORDANO

2005-07-10 Thread Nabil Alkhamery
Hello All, Does anyone know If I can use Spammain with GMS (Gordano Mail Software for Linux) Thank you - Nabil Alkhamery Internet Network Controller(INC) TeleYemen Sana'a-Yemen Tel: Office +967 1 752 2166 Mobile: + 967 77 009 172 Fax:

Re: How can I correctly detect these spams?

2005-07-10 Thread jdow
From: "Thomas Booms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Here's the content of my local.cf: > > rewrite_subject 1 > report_safe 2 > trusted_networks > user_scores_dsn DBI:mysql:: > user_scores_sql_username > user_scores_sql_password > user_scores_sql_custom_query SELECT preference, va