Re: Web page to scan ?

2005-05-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:18 AM 5/31/2005, Edward Brookhouse wrote: Hi all, A while ago I came across a web page that was setup to paste in the contents of an email and spamassassin would scan the email and show you a html report of what was triggered. Has anyone seen this or know where I can find the source aga

Re: Where to get Filter descriptions

2005-05-31 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello mailsec2, Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 5:07:07 AM, you wrote: msc> Hi, msc> where can i get an good decription for the common msc> SA Filters like "SARE_SUB_SION_OB1" ?? SARE_SUB_SION_OB1 can't be a common SA filter, since a) it claims to be a SARE rule, b) I have a complete set of SARE rules,

Re[2]: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello jdow, Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 2:56:20 AM, you wrote: j> Seems to be the 99_OBFU_drugs.cf file. j> {^_^} Where did you find those? I don't have them in my SARE collection. My guess is they haven't been looked at or updated since 2.something Bob Menschel j> - Original Message - j

Re: Phishing link doesn't show up in Kmail

2005-05-31 Thread Kelson
Ryan L. Sun wrote: I remember there is a property in HTML which you can choose not show the acturally link on the "status bar" of the brower, or even show a fake link. Not exactly. You can use Javascript to put something in the status bar, but AFAIK KMail won't run scripts in HTML mail...and

Re: Trust Path - discontinuous and SA autosyncing bayes tokens

2005-05-31 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Ben Wylie wrote: Can a trustpath be discontinuous? Here are the relays of a recent email: debug: received-header: relay 127.0.0.1 trusted? yes internal? yes debug: received-header: relay 127.0.0.1 trusted? yes internal? yes debug: received-header: relay 212.250.162.15 trusted? no internal? no deb

Re: Trust Path - discontinuous and SA autosyncing bayes tokens

2005-05-31 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 12:43:35AM +0100, Ben Wylie wrote: > Can a trustpath be discontinuous? If I understand your question, no. > debug: received-header: relay 127.0.0.1 trusted? yes internal? yes > debug: received-header: relay 127.0.0.1 trusted? yes internal? yes > debug: received-header: rel

Trust Path - discontinuous and SA autosyncing bayes tokens

2005-05-31 Thread Ben Wylie
Can a trustpath be discontinuous? Here are the relays of a recent email: debug: received-header: relay 127.0.0.1 trusted? yes internal? yes debug: received-header: relay 127.0.0.1 trusted? yes internal? yes debug: received-header: relay 212.250.162.15 trusted? no internal? no debug: received-header

Re: Use of localhost.rfc-ignorant.org?

2005-05-31 Thread List Mail User
>... > >Stewart, John wrote: > > I'm wondering why SA is querying this domain at all > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> The 'ipwhois' zone will be deprecated. It will be an empty zone, >> using the same NS-set, until 12/31/2004. The "127.0.0.2" test IP will >> also no longer be included in that zone. O

Re: Phishing link doesn't show up in Kmail

2005-05-31 Thread Ryan L. Sun
I remember there is a property in HTML which you can choose not show the acturally link on the "status bar" of the brower, or even show a fake link. On 5/31/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was going through my daily crop of spam, awfully large today, anyway, I > happened across an ebay phi

Phishing link doesn't show up in Kmail

2005-05-31 Thread Chris
Was going through my daily crop of spam, awfully large today, anyway, I happened across an ebay phishing msg where the link is on a clickable bar and running the mouse across it shows nothing at the bottom of Kmail where the actual link is usually shown. Is this something new or have I been sle

RE: Use of localhost.rfc-ignorant.org?

2005-05-31 Thread Stewart, John
> Hmm, in my copy of SA 3.0.3 an ipwhois rule is present, but commented > out with a note saying "disabled since ipwhois is going away." By any > chance are you using an older version of SA? Aye, thanks. I'm using 2.6.4, yes. > If you don't want to upgrade right now, just disable > RCVD_IN_RFC

Re: Use of localhost.rfc-ignorant.org?

2005-05-31 Thread Kelson
Stewart, John wrote: > I'm wondering why SA is querying this domain at all [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'ipwhois' zone will be deprecated. It will be an empty zone, using the same NS-set, until 12/31/2004. The "127.0.0.2" test IP will also no longer be included in that zone. On 1/1/2005, the zon

RE: Use of localhost.rfc-ignorant.org?

2005-05-31 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Stewart, John wrote: > I'm wondering why SA is querying this domain at all http://lists.megacity.org/pipermail/rfci-discuss/2004-October/003094.html -- QUOTE BEGINS -- The 'ipwhois' zone will be deprecated. It will be an empty zone, using the same NS-set, until 12/31/2004. The "127.0.0.2" test I

Use of localhost.rfc-ignorant.org?

2005-05-31 Thread Stewart, John
I just upgraded our firewall and the DNS proxy is not liking our SA system querying localhost.rfc-ignorant.org, as this is 127.0.0.1 and our DNS proxy likes to be authoritative for 127.0.0.1. So on a query of localhost.rfc-ignorant.org, SA is getting back NXDOMAIN instead of 127.0.0.1. I'm wonde

Re: problem with FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD rule

2005-05-31 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Russ Ringer wrote: Why did this email from yahoo trigger FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD? Spamassassin 3.03 Received: from web31002.mail.mud.yahoo.com (68.142.200.165) by mail.avtcorp.com with SMTP; 31 May 2005 19:33:31 - Received: (qmail 41639 invoked by uid 60001); 31 May 2005 19:33:29 - Comment:

problem with FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD rule

2005-05-31 Thread Russ Ringer
Why did this email from yahoo trigger FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD? Spamassassin 3.03 Received: from web31002.mail.mud.yahoo.com (68.142.200.165) by mail.avtcorp.com with SMTP; 31 May 2005 19:33:31 - Received: (qmail 41639 invoked by uid 60001); 31 May 2005 19:33:29 - Comment: DomainKeys? See http

RE: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread martin smith
-Original Message- M>From: Martin Hepworth M>Sent: 31 May 2005 17:45 M>To: Robert Menschel M>Cc: SpamAssassin Users M>Subject: Re: problem with split line URL's M> M>Robert M> M>just got one in - no matches... M> M>If anyone wants an example let me know.. M> M>-- M>Martin Hepworth Ok just

Is there some spamassassin's rule against FRENCH nigeria scam

2005-05-31 Thread Eddy Beliveau
Hi! We just received this nigeria scam and it passed thru our filters. We are a french speaking university I'm familiar with spamassassin english rules but is there some repository where I can find french rules ? Thanks in advance Eddy --- Votre respect, Permettez- moi de m'adresser à vous

RE: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread martin smith
M>-Original Message- M>From: Martin Hepworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M>Sent: 31 May 2005 17:45 M>To: Robert Menschel M>Cc: SpamAssassin Users M>Subject: Re: problem with split line URL's M> M>Robert M> M>just got one in - no matches... M> M>If anyone wants an example let me know.. M> M>-

Re: Learning from spam - system-wide

2005-05-31 Thread mouss
Steve wrote: On Monday 30 May 2005 19:25, mouss wrote: run SA from amavisd, and run sa-learn with the same uid as amavisd. Okay, ignore my previous message. I'm working on getting amavisd to run SA. Currently, amavisd seems to be running as user 'vscan' (UID 65). How do I run sa-learn as t

Re: New dictionary spamming method -- SOLVED!

2005-05-31 Thread Kelson
Kevin Peuhkurinen wrote: Looks like some particularly inept spammer is grabbing partial Message-IDs from the headers of messages on this list and trying to send email to them as though they were email addresses. Sad, really. We occasionally get mail sent to *full* message-IDs. A nice demon

Re: Rules meaning and example?

2005-05-31 Thread Matt Kettler
Ryan L. Sun wrote: > HI, > > Where can I find SpamAssassin rules' meaning and examples? > Some rules are easy to understand from its name, while others are not > easy to figure out what's the rule stands for. If there are some > examples for a specific rule, that would be great. > > Thank you. >

Re: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread Martin Hepworth
Robert just got one in - no matches... If anyone wants an example let me know.. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Robert Menschel wrote: Hello Martin, Friday, May 27, 2005, 3:52:25 AM, you wrote: MH> Hi MH> I've been attempting to get t

local.cf MySql bayes settings

2005-05-31 Thread Ed Kasky
I have been toying with converting my bayes db to MySql. I am curious as to what most folks use for local.cf settings. Anything that might help performance, etc?? Ed Kasky ~ Randomly Generated Quote (44 of 477): "Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever yo

RE: Anyone know what Microsoft's "Intelligent Message Filter" do es WRT tagging?

2005-05-31 Thread Aaron Grewell
> I highly doubt a MS product would take advantage of results > from another product. That's a very un-Microsoft thing to do. > Usualy if MS produces a product in a market, they want you to > use their solution exclusively. > > >Does anyone have any real exposure to IMF especially with > int

Re: bayes DB in CDB format

2005-05-31 Thread Matt Kettler
Asif Iqbal wrote: > Hi All > > I see notes on using MySQL/PgSQL and other SQL database and migration > from Berkeley DB to MySQL. I was wondering if anyone knows how to > migrate to DAN's CDB from Berkeley DB for bayes DB. I like to use that (CDB) > as the > bayes DB. > > Thanks for any help/sug

Re: Good way to get spammed?

2005-05-31 Thread jdow
Ohh please don't tempt me Get thee behind me Satan! {^_-} Post widely to usenet Pick easy to guess addresses"micks" would do nicely. Visit a drug spam site from one of the tagged spams that identify the victim from the visit. There are lots o

Re: false positives and negatives

2005-05-31 Thread Chavdar Videff
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 10:13, Loren Wilton wrote: > The spam you show is difficult to handle. One important thing is there is > no url or other link in the message body to a drug site where people could > get the spammed product. I am assuking the original spam much have had > such, since a spam

RE: NANAS

2005-05-31 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 5:40 AM >To: Chris >Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: NANAS > > >On Saturday, May 28, 2005, 2:52:52 PM, Chris Chris wrote: >> I know what NANAS is, in fact I report to it nightly, >ho

Web page to scan ?

2005-05-31 Thread Edward Brookhouse
Hi all,   A while ago I came across a web page that was setup to paste in the contents of an email and spamassassin would scan the email and show you a html report of what was triggered. Has anyone seen this or know where I can find the source again?   Any help appreciated,   Regards

Re: cannot open bayes databases

2005-05-31 Thread Kris Deugau
> Bruno Delbono wrote: > > I've found that recovering bayes berkeley db databases can be a > > very big chore and would suggest that you move to a proper SQL > > datbase (MySQL, PostgreSQL, SQLite) as soon as possible. > > BerkeleyDB is horrible! Both in performance and reliability. Michael Parker

forged-HELO and uridnsbl_skip_domain

2005-05-31 Thread Ben Wylie
In the logs i have been seeing some forged-HELO lines, and sometimes couldn't work out why they were triggered. I disabled my trusted paths and sent an email from one address with my isp "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to a work email address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which was downloaded and forwarded to a local em

RE: Many URLs resolving to few IPs

2005-05-31 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Gray, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:11 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: FW: Many URLs resolving to few IPs > > >> >> Do you have the "net" tests enabled? >> >> See: >> >> http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/s

Re: Where to get Filter descriptions

2005-05-31 Thread Loren Wilton
> >SA Filters like "SARE_SUB_SION_OB1" ?? > > Well, that's not a common SA filter, it's a SARE add-on rule. > > In general that should be in one of the SARE gensubj*.cf rulesets, but I > can't find it. Without looking, I would guess the obfu ruleset, probably checking for obfuscated forms of "sion

RE: Blogger attacks SURBL

2005-05-31 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:57 PM >To: SURBL Discuss; SpamAssassin Users >Subject: Blogger attacks SURBL > > >Pardon the dramatic title, but hopefully it got your attention. > >This guy's domain got listed by Outblaze, we re

RE: a question for exiscan and exim users

2005-05-31 Thread Ring, John C
>>Is there a possibility that in default Exim setups, or default >>OS-specific Exim packages, the exiscan config lines are being inserted >>*without* the required message size limits, thereby allowing massive >>emails to be scanned by SpamAssassin? that would inflate scanner >>sizes nonlinearl

Re: Good way to get spammed?

2005-05-31 Thread Martyn Drake
Mick Szucs wrote: I'm trying to get some spam delivered to my filter boxes so I can gauge their effectiveness on a day to day basis. Though it seems that I've got no trouble getting spam I don't want, I'm not having a lot of luck getting spam now that I do want it. Just post something (anyt

Re: Where to get Filter descriptions

2005-05-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:07 AM 5/31/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where can i get an good decription for the common SA Filters like "SARE_SUB_SION_OB1" ?? Well, that's not a common SA filter, it's a SARE add-on rule. In general that should be in one of the SARE gensubj*.cf rulesets, but I can't find it. try:

Re: whitelist v.s. negative values

2005-05-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:26 AM 5/31/2005, Thomas Deaton wrote: We're getting a lot of spam spoofed from people on our whitlists. I was thinking about removing them from the whitelist and putting them in the spam.assassin.prefs.conf under "From:" with a negative value. Does this sound like a good idea? why not

Re: Good way to get spammed?

2005-05-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:58 AM 5/31/2005, Mick Szucs wrote: I'm trying to get some spam delivered to my filter boxes so I can gauge their effectiveness on a day to day basis. Though it seems that I've got no trouble getting spam I don't want, I'm not having a lot of luck getting spam now that I do want it. Ide

RE: whitelist v.s. negative values

2005-05-31 Thread Randal, Phil
Use whitelist_from_rcvd wherever possible instead.  >From the documentation:     whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] sourceforge.net Use this to supplement the whitelist_from addresses with a check against the Received headers. The first parameter is the address to whitelist, and the seco

RE: Good way to get spammed?

2005-05-31 Thread Pierre Thomson
Enter the target email addresses in a bunch of "guest books" on web sites. Post it on Usenet. I've got spam within 24 hours this way. Pierre Thomson BIC -Original Message- From: Mick Szucs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:59 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org

whitelist v.s. negative values

2005-05-31 Thread Thomas Deaton
We're getting a lot of spam spoofed from people on our whitlists. I was thinking about removing them from the whitelist and putting them in the spam.assassin.prefs.conf  under "From:" with a negative value. Does this sound like a good idea? E-mail correspondence to and from this address m

RE: sa-learn

2005-05-31 Thread Gray, Richard
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] .spamassassin]# sa-learn --ham /root/nham/ > Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding > entities at > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm line 182. > Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding > entities at > /usr/li

sa-learn

2005-05-31 Thread List
Hi, I had upgraded to 3.03 and feed bayes with some ham. [EMAIL PROTECTED] .spamassassin]# sa-learn --ham /root/nham/ Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding entities at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm line 182. Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give ga

Good way to get spammed?

2005-05-31 Thread Mick Szucs
I'm trying to get some spam delivered to my filter boxes so I can gauge their effectiveness on a day to day basis. Though it seems that I've got no trouble getting spam I don't want, I'm not having a lot of luck getting spam now that I do want it. Ideas, anyone? Spammer bait? Thanks, Mick

Re: difference scores from 2 different methods

2005-05-31 Thread Michael Parker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > $message = > "/home/jradford/junk/1116571206-17961:1-j4K6dxup018217-046-mx2"; > > my $spamtest = Mail::SpamAssassin->new(); my $mail = > $spamtest->parse( $message ); > $message needs to contain the entire text of the msg,

Where to get Filter descriptions

2005-05-31 Thread mailsec2
Hi, where can i get an good decription for the common SA Filters like "SARE_SUB_SION_OB1" ?? Thanx Peter

Re: Blogger attacks SURBL

2005-05-31 Thread Martin G. Diehl
[RESEND - was bounced by SURBL Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Jeff Chan wrote: > Pardon the dramatic title, but hopefully it got your attention. > > This guy's domain got listed by Outblaze, we removed it, and as > thanks this guy paints us as irresponsible. Please help us > straighten him out, g

Re: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread Martin Hepworth
hmm these aren't in my copy of Bob's rules, you must have put them in yourself.. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 jdow wrote: Specifically: warning: rule 'LOCAL_OBFU_CARISOPRODOLE' is over 22 chars warning: rule 'LOCAL_OBFU_SOMATROPINE_SUBJ

Re: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread Martin Hepworth
works for me fine.. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 jdow wrote: Oops - spamassassin --lint barfed all over these new rules. Most of their names were over the character count limit. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Martin Hep

Re: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread jdow
Seems to be the 99_OBFU_drugs.cf file. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 2005 May, 31, Tuesday 02:45 Subject: Re: problem with split line URL's > Oops - spamassassin --lint barfed all over these new rules. Most of > their names were over the character

Re: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread jdow
Specifically: warning: rule 'LOCAL_OBFU_CARISOPRODOLE' is over 22 chars warning: rule 'LOCAL_OBFU_SOMATROPINE_SUBJ' is over 22 chars warning: rule 'LOCAL_OBFU_FLONASE_SUBJ' is over 22 chars warning: rule 'LOCAL_OBFU_XENICAL_SUBJ' is over 22 chars warning: rule 'LOCAL_OBFU_CARISOPRODOL_SUBJ' is over

Re: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread jdow
Oops - spamassassin --lint barfed all over these new rules. Most of their names were over the character count limit. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Martin Hepworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "SpamAssassin Users" Sent: 2005 May, 31, Tuesday 02:35 Subject: Re: problem with split line URL's

Re: problem with split line URL's

2005-05-31 Thread Martin Hepworth
Bob Ta - I've upgraded the rules and we'll see how we get on.. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Robert Menschel wrote: Hello Martin, Friday, May 27, 2005, 3:52:25 AM, you wrote: MH> Hi MH> I've been attempting to get the split line URL

FW: Many URLs resolving to few IPs

2005-05-31 Thread Gray, Richard
> > Do you have the "net" tests enabled? > > See: > > http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL25864 > > These should be tripping at least the URI_SBL test and just about any > other IP based BL you might have added (e.g. > completewhois, etc.). > I am using the 'net'

Re: Learning from spam - system-wide

2005-05-31 Thread jdow
From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tuesday 31 May 2005 05:24, jdow wrote: > > Trish and Steve may have quite different concepts of "spam". Many of > > the complaints about Bayes being ineffective seem to come from people > > trying to use one master Bayes database. > > Ah! I'll confess that it

Re: difference scores from 2 different methods

2005-05-31 Thread Loren Wilton
> pts rule name description > -- -- > 0.0 MISSING_DATE Missing Date: header > -2.8 ALL_TRUSTEDDid not pass through any untrusted hosts > 1.6 MISSING_SUBJECTMissing Subject: header

Re: Many URLs resolving to few IPs

2005-05-31 Thread List Mail User
>... > >I was looking at some FN that got given back to me today, and noticed >that In a lot of them the URL resolves to > >61,232.205.186 > >This site has a very simple pornographic advert in it, that varies >dependent On the URL requested. > >Is there anyway to use the lookups for these domains

difference scores from 2 different methods

2005-05-31 Thread jasonml
I'm trying to figure out why I am getting 2 difference scores, and different hits from the same email. The first method is just a simple spamassassin -t < email 2nd is a small perl script invoking Mail::SpamAssassin. First result is (commandline): Content analysis details: (11.1 points, 5.0

Many URLs resolving to few IPs

2005-05-31 Thread Gray, Richard
I was looking at some FN that got given back to me today, and noticed that In a lot of them the URL resolves to 61,232.205.186 This site has a very simple pornographic advert in it, that varies dependent On the URL requested. Is there anyway to use the lookups for these domains in a blacklist w

Re: Learning from spam - system-wide

2005-05-31 Thread Steve
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 05:24, jdow wrote: > Trish and Steve may have quite different concepts of "spam". Many of > the complaints about Bayes being ineffective seem to come from people > trying to use one master Bayes database. Ah! I'll confess that it hadn't occurred to me that using a centralise

Re: bayes DB in CDB format

2005-05-31 Thread Arvinn Løkkebakken
Rick Macdougall wrote: Asif Iqbal wrote: Hi All I see notes on using MySQL/PgSQL and other SQL database and migration from Berkeley DB to MySQL. I was wondering if anyone knows how to migrate to DAN's CDB from Berkeley DB for bayes DB. I like to use that (CDB) as the bayes DB. Thanks f

Re: false positives and negatives

2005-05-31 Thread jdow
You have several options. I run about 40 of them. Most of them are found at http://www.rulesemporium.com/ the human generated Bayes databases that work on phrases rather than single words. {^_-} - Original Message - From: "Chavdar Videff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tuesday 31 May 2005 05:16

Re: false positives and negatives

2005-05-31 Thread Loren Wilton
> Sorry for my late reply - my evening is your morning. > There is 1000 spam a week that leaks through and perhaps another 500-600 that > get filtered by spamassassin. > If my Bayes is poorly trained what options do I have. > Here is a typical letter that gets through. > > =