Re[2]: Spammers Target Secondary MX hosts?

2005-03-28 Thread Henri van Riel
> The theory is probably that they can pump spam through faster if > they utilize all an ISP's inbound MX machines :) The theory is that most ISP don't run spam filters on their secondary MX's because "all" smtp clients will hit the primary first and that "always" works. The secondaries are only

Re: Spammers Target Secondary MX hosts?

2005-03-28 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 01:42 19/03/2005, Martin Hepworth wrote: I think the reason is that they think we might trust the secondary MX more than anything else and therefore let it through without checks. I don't know about that. I think its more just a matter of the way the bulk mailing software works. A "normal" SM

Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-28 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Eric A. Hall wrote: On 3/28/2005 2:07 PM, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Better yet, is to not even bother running mail for that account through SpamAssassin in the first place and instead just pipe it to sa-learn. No point in filtering mail that you are positive is 100% spam. except that he wants t

Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-28 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/28/2005 2:07 PM, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > Better yet, is to not even bother running mail for that account through > SpamAssassin in the first place and instead just pipe it to sa-learn. > No point in filtering mail that you are positive is 100% spam. except that he wants to blacklist f

Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-28 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Eric A. Hall wrote: On 3/28/2005 9:30 AM, Matt wrote: That worked but your right it has no effect on the autolearn=spam. Any idea how I get it to autolearn all email to a given address as spam? can you pipe incoming mail for that account to sa-learn? Even if you were to alter the tflags for the

Re: New SA-3.0.2 partially barfs.

2005-03-28 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Steve Prior wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: The point being that under those conditions, root doesn't have any filtering. So, I located that section of code in /usr/bin/spamd, and commented it out. I believe its now working. Locking root out of using a valuable tool just to try and convince that u

Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-28 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/28/2005 9:30 AM, Matt wrote: > That worked but your right it has no effect on the autolearn=spam. Any idea > how I get it to autolearn all email to a given address as spam? can you pipe incoming mail for that account to sa-learn? -- Eric A. Hallhtt

Re: pipe only if not spam...

2005-03-28 Thread hamann . w
Hi, I do it about the other way round: my first qmail deliver attempt is this one. The second half triggers if someone has tagged the mail as spam before (even if the local SA would let it through) Wolfgang Hamann #!/bin/sh if /usr/bin/spamc -c ; then exit 0 else exit 99 fi if

Re: New SA-3.0.2 partially barfs.

2005-03-28 Thread Steve Prior
Gene Heskett wrote: The point being that under those conditions, root doesn't have any filtering. So, I located that section of code in /usr/bin/spamd, and commented it out. I believe its now working. Locking root out of using a valuable tool just to try and convince that user not to run as

Re: New SA-3.0.2 partially barfs.

2005-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 24 March 2005 19:36, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Thursday 24 March 2005 13:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>SA does not allow running it as 'root' user. It is considered a >> security risk. SA files also should not be in 'root' user folder. >> Should be in something like /var/filter/.spamassa

Re: General SA questions, somewhat OS X specific

2005-03-28 Thread Matt Kettler
Scott Haneda wrote: >I have been told SA can run as a standalone MTA, if that is the case, this >is good news. If not, can someone point me to links that would help me with >this install. I just barely know postfix, and this is all going to happen >on OS X 10.3 client, so hopefully someone who h

Re: New SA-3.0.2 partially barfs.

2005-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 24 March 2005 19:36, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Thursday 24 March 2005 13:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>SA does not allow running it as 'root' user. It is considered a >> security risk. SA files also should not be in 'root' user folder. >> Should be in something like /var/filter/.spamassa

Re: Help with qmail

2005-03-28 Thread CG
Here's how I'd do it: You need one more peice to your puzzle: maildrop. http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/ install maildrop then create your .qmail and .mailfilter files: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat .qmail | spamassassin | /var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/local/bin/maildrop [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat .

RE: SARE suggestion

2005-03-28 Thread Andy Jezierski
Chris Santerre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/28/2005 10:44:41 AM: > > > >-Original Message- > >From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:29 AM > >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > >Subject: SARE suggestion > > > > > >It seems there are a lot of anti-spam

RE: SARE suggestion

2005-03-28 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:29 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: SARE suggestion > > >It seems there are a lot of anti-spam headers which if they are seen >on incoming email is a fairly good indication that the me

SA 3.02 rewrite_mail problem

2005-03-28 Thread Steven Manross
I'm having issues rewriting mail. In the case that spam has been found, the message rewrites fine. In the case of real mail, I want the SA headers inserted, but it seems that if I rewrite_mail on non-spam, the message loses all headers (except SA headers) and improperly formats the message text

Help with qmail

2005-03-28 Thread Alan Glait
I have compiled the spamassassin and a qmail with Maildir working ... How I have to do to enable the spamassassin to 1 mailbox to test it ? ? Thanx in advance

RE: Effectiveness

2005-03-28 Thread Gary W. Smith
Using a script and a crontab. That's about as automatic as you can get. For example, we have several account aliases that we have intentionally signed up on the remove lists and they all end up in a user account called spam. There will never be any legitimate email going to this account. So eve

Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-28 Thread Matt
That worked but your right it has no effect on the autolearn=spam. Any idea how I get it to autolearn all email to a given address as spam? Matt score USER_IN_BLACKLIST_TO 100.0 or whatever score you want Dunno if the bayes auto-learner works with blacklist_to rules; it doesn't work with some wh

pipe only if not spam...

2005-03-28 Thread CG
Okay... When it comes down to it, this question is a shell question... BUT! I'm asking it here only because there may be a better way to do this than what I'm thinking... Spamassassin 3.0.1 Linux 2.4.20 (Slackware) Using spamc/spamd -d -L -u alias Using Qmail for my MTA When spammers fish for ema

Re: rewrite_subject 0 lint: 1 issues detected

2005-03-28 Thread crisppy fernandes
> After the scripts download the rules and try to merge them I get this error. > > >Lint output: config: SpamAssassin failed to parse line, skipping: > >rewrite_subject 0 > >lint: 1 issues detected. please rerun with debug enabled for more > >information. To solve this remove from your rules fil