Re: Spamassasin 3.x & amavisd-new

2004-10-12 Thread Mark Martinec
> I know (I read changelog now) ... sorry. > But I have problem with this combination (SA3 + amavisd-new-20030616-p10): > Oct 5 15:33:11 x amavis[25039]: (24614-01) ESMTP: 500 5.5.2 > Error: bad syntax; PENALIZE: ... > FIY: After "PENALIZE:" is only one line from email source. Something

Weird problem - not fixed

2004-10-12 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, Well, what I thought was fixed with the /root problem with a -u Spamd user in spamd has not gone away, spamd is still trying to create everything with root privileges. Do the devs have any ideas for me ? Regards, Rick

AWL questions (faq?)

2004-10-12 Thread MATSUDA Yoh-ichi
Hello, spamassassinners. I have some question about AWL, perhaps they're classified in novis class. If my questions are FAQ, simply give me only pointer to the documents, please. (1) How to monitor AWL registered listings? In my spambox, there are many various scored mail address. I want

Strange Problem - Fixed

2004-10-12 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, Regarding my strange problem of spamd writing to /root/.spamassassin instead of /home/Spamd/.spamassassin, it seems that the -u parameter to spamd can NOT follow a -i parameter. If it does, spamd runs as root instead of the user specified with the -u parameter. Just FYI. Regards, Rick

Re: problem with spamassassin 3.0 / amavisd-new on Debian

2004-10-12 Thread Iain Pople
Replying to myself for the sake of others with this problem. Please seem post here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=amavis-user&m=109604895419150&w=2 Iain Pople wrote: Hi, I am using amavisd-new version 20030616p10 and Spam Assassin 3.0 debian packages from backports.org. The MTA is postfix 2.1.1

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread jdow
From: "martin f krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are not being sensible, sir. It's time for me to stick you into my procmail file gone forever. {+_+}

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread jdow
From: "martin f krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >also sprach jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1158 +0200]: >> Feed us spam, please. Avoid the middle man. It makes our response >> quicker. > > Should I set up an autoreply to all my spam from the address of the > list, or simply forward all my spam?

Strange problem

2004-10-12 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, I'm running spamd on it's own server with the following command line (under daemontools) exec /usr/local/bin/spamd -q -x -m 10 --max-conn-per-child=20 -i 206.123.6.18 -A 206.123.6.19,206.123.6.18,216.162.64.120 -u Spamd 2>&1 @4000416c5cba146a3c04 Cannot open bayes databases /root/.spam

Re: What Missing Subject?

2004-10-12 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:37 PM 10/12/2004, Brett Romero wrote: What is this test: MISSING_SUBJECT 1.40 Missing Subject: header The above test is for this header: Todd's comments about RM being a marketing company noted, but also RM's relatively clean reputation on NANAE, and claimed strong antispam policies,

RE: JS and EXE test isn't working?

2004-10-12 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Fred wrote: > Another strange one is that I got ALL_TRUSTED and there were no received > headers to go on.. Is this to be expected? Yup. ALL_TRUSTED means NO_NONTRUSTED - there are certainly no untrusted Received headers. Also, zero is even, and the empty string is a palindrome. Generically, al

Re: JS and EXE test isn't working?

2004-10-12 Thread Fred
Brett Romero wrote: > I sent the following message through SA 3.0 on Windows. > > > The following were returned: > UPPERCASE_25_50 0.10 message body is 25-50% uppercase > MISSING_SUBJECT 1.40 Missing Subject: header > ALL_TRUSTED -2.80 Did not pass through any untrusted hosts >

Re: What Missing Subject?

2004-10-12 Thread Todd Schuldt
You really think someone is going to answer that question for you at realmagnet.com? MagnetMail E-mail Marketing Solutions MagnetMail is a powerful e-marketing tool for creating measurable and coordinated e-mail, fax, and direct mail campaigns. It has these key advantages: * Ease of use. No

What Missing Subject?

2004-10-12 Thread Brett Romero
What is this test: MISSING_SUBJECT 1.40 Missing Subject: header The above test is for this header: Reply-To: "Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: testing JS 2 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:00:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipa

Re: JS and EXE test isn't working?

2004-10-12 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:22 PM 10/12/2004, Brett Romero wrote: I sent the following message through SA 3.0 on Windows. testing The following were returned: UPPERCASE_25_50 0.10 message body is 25-50% uppercase MISSING_SUBJECT 1.40 Missing Subject: header ALL_TRUSTED -2.80 Did not pass through any

Sending all spam to one email box.

2004-10-12 Thread Joe Jenkins
I am trying to make Spam Assassin 3.0 redirect all tagged spam emails to one file in /var/spool/SPAM instead of ever having it show up in the individual users email boxes. I've got spamassassin working now (thanks, theo and matt) and it seems to be running through procmail, but it doesnt seem to r

RE: JS and EXE test isn't working?

2004-10-12 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Brett Romero wrote: >> Where is the JS/EXE test? > > The MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE test was removed in 3.0, it seems. > I guess they > want to thicken the line between antivirus, and antispam. *shrug* > Fine with me. That leaves open the question of a "JS" test - are/were there any tests that penaliz

RE: JS and EXE test isn't working?

2004-10-12 Thread Nate Schindler
yup. ;) wonder if anybody's filed a bug about that - maybe standard html tags should be ignored in the uppercase tests. -Original Message- From: Brett Romero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:44 PM To: Nate Schindler Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re:

Re: JS and EXE test isn't working?

2004-10-12 Thread Brett Romero
- Original Message - From: "Nate Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brett Romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 4:37 PM Subject: RE: JS and EXE test isn't working? -Original Message- From: Brett Romero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October

RE: JS and EXE test isn't working?

2004-10-12 Thread Nate Schindler
> -Original Message- > From: Brett Romero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: JS and EXE test isn't working? > > Where is the JS/EXE test? The MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE test was removed in 3.0, it seems. I guess they want to

RE: *SPAM* feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Jonathan Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:23 PM >To: Keith Hackworth >Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: *SPAM* feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!! > > >Keith Hackworth wrote: > >> I just got a gold-mine for surbl c

JS and EXE test isn't working?

2004-10-12 Thread Brett Romero
I sent the following message through SA 3.0 on Windows. alert(test this); testing     The following were returned: UPPERCASE_25_50 0.10 message body is 25-50% uppercase MISSING_SUBJECT 1.40 Missing Subject: header ALL_TRUSTED -2.80 Did not pass through any untrusted hosts

Second plea for help - building RPM on AMD64

2004-10-12 Thread Thomas Cameron
All - Using the spamassassin.spec file that is included in the Mail- SpamAssassin-3.0.0.tar.bz2 file, I run rpmbuild -ba spamassassin.spec It runs along fine for a while, then it ends with: + /usr/bin/make spamc/libspamc.so /usr/bin/make -f spamc/Makefile spamc/libspamc.so make[1]: Entering

RE: Antidrug.cf

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Santerre
It is my goal to act like a twelve year old until I'm ashes. :) So nanny nanny boo booo.whatever you say bounces ;) --Chris >-Original Message- >From: snowjack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:57 PM >To: jdow; users@spamassassin.apache.org >S

RE: Quick setup question

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Santerre
A computer, internet access, and an email account. --Chris (You said quick!) >-Original Message- >From: Robert Bartlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:39 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Quick setup question > > >Just real quick if you started

RE: logs/stats

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Santerre
I use a quick grep to pull up stats for problem users. I think Dallas's script could be changed around pretty easy to look up users instead of rules. --Chris >-Original Message- >From: Thomas Kinghorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:07 AM >To: Spamassassin-Tal

RE: SpamAssassin not following rules set in procmailrc or local.cf

2004-10-12 Thread Yackley, Matt
> -Original Message- > From: Joe Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:32 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: SpamAssassin not following rules set in procmailrc > or local.cf > > I am running SA 3.0 on a Mandrake 10.1 server with Procmail

Re: spam slippin through

2004-10-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As Usual, you're all quite helpful! Thank you! > From: Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:52:36 -0400 > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Subject: Re: spam slippin through > > At 12:25 PM 10/12/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> running a site wide SA 2.6

Re: SpamAssassin not following rules set in procmailrc or local.cf

2004-10-12 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 12:32:11PM -0600, Joe Jenkins wrote: > check the headers and see the stuff SA adds. When it IS spam, it gets tagged > properly in the headers but the subject is not being rewritten and the email > is > not being redirected to the /var/spool/mail/STOPPED_SPAM file as I indi

SpamAssassin not following rules set in procmailrc or local.cf

2004-10-12 Thread Joe Jenkins
I am running SA 3.0 on a Mandrake 10.1 server with Procmail / Sendmail spamd is running and I have set up my procmailrc to send all stopped spam to a file: /var/spool/mail/STOPPED_SPAM (procmailrc at end of this post) Also, I have set up local.cf to rewrite the subject. (see config below) spamd i

Re: spam slippin through

2004-10-12 Thread Rakesh
Try implementing SpamCop URI checks or upgrade to SA 3.0 you will get rid of these unstoppable spam mails. I got amazing results after implementing URI checks. Rakesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: running a site wide SA 2.6 setup, some XXX html only mails are impossible to stop, getting scores as low

RE: spam slippin through

2004-10-12 Thread Bret Miller
> running a site wide SA 2.6 setup, some XXX html only mails > are impossible to > stop, getting scores as low as 2.0 > > the email just calls images, and thats about it. should i > paste the subject > here, they are quite distinct, and im sure others are getting them. You really need to upgrade

RE: RBL Misfires?

2004-10-12 Thread Nate Schindler
> -Original Message- > From: Kelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:57 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: RBL Misfires? > Most likely scenario: > > 1. Someone erroneously reports the domain name to SURBL. > 2. You receive and scan the messa

RE: spam slippin through

2004-10-12 Thread Shawn R. Beairsto
If its the spam I think it is, I stopped it by using the SARE_70_HTML1.CF file and adding this to my local.cf score SARE_HTML_A_HIDE 5.0 They always hit this rule ;) Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:26

Re: AWL auto_expire?

2004-10-12 Thread Kris Deugau
Nate Schindler wrote: > awesome! looks like it removes addresses seen only once. By design. I figured that the addresses with single entries were the ones most likely to be spam... and so the ones least usefully kept in the AWL. In one extreme case IIRC it dropped the AWL file from ~5M to ~80K

Re: RBL Misfires?

2004-10-12 Thread Kelson
Nate Schindler wrote: Once in a while, I notice a hit for an RBL-related test that seems a little off. When I check for the existance of a record in the list, I can't find one. Below is a match SA 3 found in an e-mail from one of our dealers. I thought it was curious that they were listed, so

Re: RBL Misfires?

2004-10-12 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:28 PM 10/12/2004, Nate Schindler wrote: Once in a while, I notice a hit for an RBL-related test that seems a little off. When I check for the existance of a record in the list, I can't find one. Below is a match SA 3 found in an e-mail from one of our dealers. I thought it was curious t

Re: Upgrade from 3.0 rc2 to current

2004-10-12 Thread Theodore Heise
Apparently my request was not deemed worthy of a reply. For anybody who may look for such information in the archives I'll note that I simply backed up my Bayes databases and installed 3.0.0--everything appears to be working fine. Ted Heise --I assume it is something everybody else On Fri, 8

Re: Spam trap account?

2004-10-12 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 09:31, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 10:26 PM 10/8/2004 -0700, Jerry wrote: > >I am using the command: > > > >spamassassin --add-to-blacklist (message filename) > > > >For it to scan the filename and add the senders email address to the black > >list. > > That's largely worthless.

RBL Misfires?

2004-10-12 Thread Nate Schindler
Title: RBL Misfires? Once in a while, I notice a hit for an RBL-related test that seems a little off.  When I check for the existance of a record in the list, I can't find one.  Below is a match SA 3 found in an e-mail from one of our dealers.  I thought it was curious that they were listed,

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Justin Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1851 +0200]: > hold on a minute guys -- this is a FAQ. > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DoYouWantMySpam /me sits back and sighs -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<

Re: spam slippin through

2004-10-12 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:25 PM 10/12/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: running a site wide SA 2.6 setup, some XXX html only mails are impossible to stop, getting scores as low as 2.0 the email just calls images, and thats about it. should i paste the subject here, they are quite distinct, and im sure others are getting

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 martin f krafft writes: > also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1420 +0200]: > > > Only forward spam that SpamAssassin does not currently > > > automatically detect correctly. > > > > All of it? > > And with or without Bayesian

spam slippin through

2004-10-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
running a site wide SA 2.6 setup, some XXX html only mails are impossible to stop, getting scores as low as 2.0 the email just calls images, and thats about it. should i paste the subject here, they are quite distinct, and im sure others are getting them.

RE: SARE problems?

2004-10-12 Thread Bret Miller
http://www.rulesemporium.com/ is working for me...

Re: sa-learn sql with username ?

2004-10-12 Thread Jason Frisvold
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:31:36 -0700, p dont think <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI, we are planning to extend the following wrapper method by spitting > out a temporary conf file with the correct username in it, and deleting > the conf file when done: > > http://jousset.org/pub/sa-postfix.en.html

"Insecure dependency" SA3/Razor2.61

2004-10-12 Thread Robert Berlinger
I’m seeing the following error at the end of a spamasassin –D run on some messages:   debug: Razor2: spam report, response is "1". debug: leaving helper-app run mode debug: SpamAssassin: spam reported to Razor. 1 message(s) examined. Insecure dependency in connect while running with -

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jeff Chan wrote on Tue, 12 Oct 2004 05:29:53 -0700: > Send one example of each new class of spam, but be sure that it's > not detected already in standard installations. I'd say include > the Bayesian scoring. What do others say? > Why not put up a list which discusses only rules and also accep

Re: compilation error

2004-10-12 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:33 AM 10/12/2004, Ronan wrote: the following error is being thrown at me. I have tried adding the switch "--with-version=3" and also with 3.0 and 3.0.0 but still doesnt work. Anyclues? SA 3.0 appears to require the Mime::Base64 perl module. This module was optional in 2.63 , but it seems t

Re: Public SA Corpus

2004-10-12 Thread Thomas Bolioli
Gerry Doris wrote: I managed to destroy my bayes database...don't ask. Since I only run a home system and don't receive a heavy flow of spam I really like to skip the wait for bayes to get up to speed. Is it recommended to use the public corpus on the SA website or is it too old for proper trainin

Re: sa-learn sql with username ?

2004-10-12 Thread p dont think
Jason Frisvold wrote: You mean this? http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3766 Awesome, thanks for the link :) It's always interesting to watch the flow of thinking for something like this... I can agree with both sides of the permissions issue... In my case, the only users with dir

RE: inconsistencies in message checking

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:18 AM >To: Thomas Kinghorn; Spamassassin-Talk >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >Subject: Re: inconsistencies in message checking >There's no actual drug names in the subject or body of the >untagged

RE: local host

2004-10-12 Thread Tan, William
If you "man spamd" or "netstat -an", you'll notice that it listens by default on 127.0.0.1:783. The log entries would presumably represent the tcp connections made from spamc to spamd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9

local host

2004-10-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Watching the maillogs with SA 2.6 each call of spamd comes with this: Oct 12 09:47:24 mail spamd[15997]: connection from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] at port 51225 and the following call the port increments upward. What is this?

Re: [ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Martin f krafft wrote on Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:53:33 +0200: > I am not here to discuss religion but usability of your mailing > list. > Martin, you "discussed" it in a way I would call religious and the religion being "mutt". Thanks for "shutting up". :-) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany G

Re: SARE problems?

2004-10-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Thomas Kinghorn wrote on Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:57:42 +0200: > Anyone having problems getting to the SARE website? > Still? None at all here. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://msie.winware.

RE: inconsistencies in message checking

2004-10-12 Thread Thomas Kinghorn
Thanks Matt Regards, Tom -Original Message- >From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 12 October 2004 14:21 >To: martin f krafft >Cc: Spamassassin-Talk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >Subject: Re: inconsistencies in message checking >At 09:01 AM 10/12/2004 +0200, martin f krafft wro

Re: compilation error

2004-10-12 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:33:21 +0100 Ronan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the following error is being thrown at me. > I have tried adding the switch "--with-version=3" and also with 3.0 and > 3.0.0 but still doesnt work. > > Anyclues? ... > The error was: > version.h.pl: version.h.pl: version

compilation error

2004-10-12 Thread Ronan
the following error is being thrown at me. I have tried adding the switch "--with-version=3" and also with 3.0 and 3.0.0 but still doesnt work. Anyclues? Im compiling then gonna upgrade over v2.63. thanks Ronan # make cp spamd/spamd blib/script/spamd /usr/local/bin/perl -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6

Re: sa-learn sql with username ?

2004-10-12 Thread Jason Frisvold
> You mean this? > http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3766 Awesome, thanks for the link :) It's always interesting to watch the flow of thinking for something like this... I can agree with both sides of the permissions issue... In my case, the only users with direct access to the

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 5:22:50 AM, martin krafft wrote: > also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1420 +0200]: >> > Only forward spam that SpamAssassin does not currently >> > automatically detect correctly. >> >> All of it? > And with or without Bayesian stuff enabled?

Re: [ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread Mike Burger
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, martin f krafft wrote: > I do not want to start a flamewar, but I do wonder why you all opted > for ezmlm. It's working and all that, but as with any DJB software, Quite honestly, though, the SpamAssassin folks didn't "opt" for ezmlm. Apache.org uses ezmlm, and when SA was

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1420 +0200]: > > Only forward spam that SpamAssassin does not currently > > automatically detect correctly. > > All of it? And with or without Bayesian stuff enabled? -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \__

Re: inconsistencies in message checking

2004-10-12 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:01 AM 10/12/2004 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: stop forwarding your spam to lists! cut it to the bare essentials. Why not? If the example is illustrative of the problem it's perfectly acceptable for him to forward spam to this list. It's always been that way on this list. (however, pure mbo

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1414 +0200]: > Only forward spam that SpamAssassin does not currently > automatically detect correctly. All of it? -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: inconsistencies in message checking

2004-10-12 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:23 AM 10/12/2004 +0200, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: I have 2 messages, where the bodies are the same. No, you have two messages with similar bodies, but they are definitely not the same. There's a lot of the same text, but the last line and the subject are very different in each. SA handles th

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 3:03:11 AM, martin krafft wrote: > also sprach jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1158 +0200]: >> Feed us spam, please. Avoid the middle man. It makes our response >> quicker. > Should I set up an autoreply to all my spam from the address of the > list, or simply fo

Re: [ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread Satya
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 09:56:18AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: >also sprach Niek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.0946 +0200]: >> This is not quantum physics, maybe mutt has some features to help >> you with the tough task of posting to this list ? >No, because mutt cannot and should not control t

Re: sa-learn question

2004-10-12 Thread Alex S Moore
On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 21:18 -0600, Lance wrote: > Alright, we're running courier IMAP along with pop3 but our spool is all > Maildir format. I've got a public spam folder for certain people so > what would the sa-learn command be? > > sa-learn --spam /var/spool/mail/unixvault.net/shared/.Spam/cur

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1158 +0200]: > Feed us spam, please. Avoid the middle man. It makes our response > quicker. Should I set up an autoreply to all my spam from the address of the list, or simply forward all my spam? -- martin; (greetings from the heart

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread jdow
From: "Jeff Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Monday, October 11, 2004, 11:56:19 PM, martin krafft wrote: > > Would you please consider not forwarding your spam to mailing lists? > > Dude, this is the SA mailing list, what do you think runs on > > people's servers? And what do you think this software

Re: [ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1131 +0200]: > Again, discussing religion is off-topic here, really. I am not here to discuss religion but usability of your mailing list. But hey, since nobody seems to care, and mutt *does* provide for broken setups (again), I'll shut up.

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 2:23:57 AM, martin krafft wrote: > also sprach Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1115 +0200]: >> FWIW, the usual sequence in reporting new (undetected) classes of >> spam is: >> >> 1. Post an instance of it on this discussion list. > Post an instance of it

Re: [ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Martin f krafft wrote on Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:56:18 +0200: > No, because mutt cannot and should not control the envelope sender. Discussing religion is off-topic here, really. > ezmlm is fundamentally broken, so I am trying to alert people to Again, discussing religion is off-topic here, really.

Re: Network tests not working after upgrade to SA 3

2004-10-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Monday, October 11, 2004 6:48 PM, Bill Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Brodbelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] >> Aha. Whoever put together the package on backports.org omitted that >> file from the docs I'd still contend it should be in UPGRADE

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1115 +0200]: > It's been mentioned before several times on this list. Otherwise > all I can say is that it's standard practice. :-) Well, I am not here to argue, but apparently the anti-spam lists to which I subscribe do not follow the standa

Rewriting subject results in broken up headers

2004-10-12 Thread Jacco Beije
Hi! I'm experiencing a problem I can't find references to in the FAQs/mailing lists. I'm using SpamAssassin 3.0, spamass-milter 0.2.0 and sendmail 8.12.11. When I configure SpamAssassin to modify the subject of spam, the headers break up in 2 pieces...up to and including the Subject header remain

Re: [ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nick Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1108 +0200]: > It can, the option is called "envelope_from", and it's designed for > situations like yours (and mine). Oh wow, I am totally out of the loop. This certainly did not exist when I hand-crafted my configuration file. Is there an

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 2:01:01 AM, martin krafft wrote: > also sprach Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1030 +0200]: >> It's generally considered poor practice to apply spam filters >> to spam discussions. > Do you have a reference for this "general consideration"? I am on > plenty

Re: [ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread Nick Leverton
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 09:56:18AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Niek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.0946 +0200]: > > This is not quantum physics, maybe mutt has some features to help > > you with the tough task of posting to this list ? > > No, because mutt cannot and should not

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.1030 +0200]: > This only applies to spams that SpamAssassin does not already > successfully detect, i.e. new, undetected classes. Well, with Bayesian filtering, it is perfectly possible that many spam filters already catch such a message. > >

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 12:39:20 AM, martin krafft wrote: > also sprach Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.0931 +0200]: >> Well in some cases, such as debugging an undetected spam, it's >> quite useful to see the entire message to determine whether the >> results can be duplicated on a

Re: [ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Niek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.0946 +0200]: > Who cares what software is being used ? Well, if the software lowers the usability, people should care. > This is not quantum physics, maybe mutt has some features to help > you with the tough task of posting to this list ? No, beca

Re: [ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread Niek
On 10/12/2004 9:26 AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: I do not want to start a flamewar, but I do wonder why you all opted for ezmlm. It's working and all that, but as with any DJB software, it just does not give a flying food about how things should be done, or are done in the rest of the world; ins

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.0931 +0200]: > Well in some cases, such as debugging an undetected spam, it's > quite useful to see the entire message to determine whether the > results can be duplicated on another system. If so, it can be > a genuine bug in SA. So there are

Re: does spamassassin -rR call sa-learn?

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Niek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.12.0926 +0200]: > man spamassassin. Mh. Believe it or not, I never noticed the long descriptions to the manpage. Sorry for the noise, and thanks for your answer. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread Jeff Chan
On Monday, October 11, 2004, 11:56:19 PM, martin krafft wrote: > Would you please consider not forwarding your spam to mailing lists? > Dude, this is the SA mailing list, what do you think runs on > people's servers? And what do you think this software does with you > post? > Apart, we all get ple

[ot] comments about the mailing list

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
Hi all, First of all, thank you for SpamAssassin and this mailing list. I have been able to extract many useful ideas in the past weeks. I would like to voice my concern with the lists setup though. Apparently it is subscriber-only (which is good), but as it uses ezmlm, it falls short in exactly

Re: does spamassassin -rR call sa-learn?

2004-10-12 Thread Niek
On 10/6/2004 2:39 PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: When relearning a false-positive as ham, I wonder whether it's necessary to invoke `spamassassin -rR` as well as `sa-learn --ham`, or does either call the other? What does `spamassassin -r` do exactly? Revoking spam could be a plethora of things. H

Re: inconsistencies in message checking

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
stop forwarding your spam to lists! cut it to the bare essentials. -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] invalid/expired pgp subkeys? use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! spamtraps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the

Re: feeding frenzy for ws.surbl.org!!!

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Keith Hackworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.11.1820 +0200]: > I just got a gold-mine for surbl canidates "wanna-bes" in a single spam > message. There's WAY too many domains listed below to add to SURBL > through the web pages. Is there a "bulk add" option to add to the > ws.surbl.or

does spamassassin -rR call sa-learn?

2004-10-12 Thread martin f krafft
When relearning a false-positive as ham, I wonder whether it's necessary to invoke `spamassassin -rR` as well as `sa-learn --ham`, or does either call the other? What does `spamassassin -r` do exactly? Revoking spam could be a plethora of things. -- martin; (greetings from the heart

FW: logs/stats

2004-10-12 Thread Thomas Kinghorn
That works great, even with exim and not sendmail. Anyone know of a way to log the to receivers of spam? Tom > > Anyone know of a good log analyzer for a sendmail/SA setup? > > > > > > You need SA 3.0 to get the rule stats, I don't believe 2.6x logged rules. > If you do upgrade, grab a copy

Re: X-message-flag question

2004-10-12 Thread Ian FREISLICH
Jeremy Rumpf wrote: > I've seen a few messages recently that contained the header > > X-message-flag: Authentic Sender, Hash: PoHgCaAr I thought X-message-flag was used by microsoft outlook to populate a highlighted part of the header when viewing the message. There was also no way to turn it of

SARE problems?

2004-10-12 Thread Thomas Kinghorn
Anyone having problems getting to the SARE website? Regards, Tom

inconsistencies in message checking

2004-10-12 Thread Thomas Kinghorn
Hi List. I have 2 messages, where the bodies are the same. 1 scored 3.5, the other 6.3 Why is this? Way to may MEDS are coming through. TAGGED MESSAGE HEADER: Received: from jp-mx-1.mtnns.net ([209.212.97.2]) by protea.int.citec.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Versio

Re: Quick setup question

2004-10-12 Thread Ed Kasky
Try the documentation. A veritable wealth of mind blowing details on how to get SA up and running. At 7:38pm -0700 10/11/04, Robert Bartlett wrote: Just real quick if you started from scratch what would you recommend as a good setup for SA? Thanks Ed Kasky Randomly Generated Quote: Never l

problem with spamassassin 3.0 / amavisd-new on Debian

2004-10-12 Thread Iain Pople
Hi, I am using amavisd-new version 20030616p10 and Spam Assassin 3.0 debian packages from backports.org. The MTA is postfix 2.1.1 I get the following error messages if I enable spam filtering: Oct 12 11:53:06 stan.brunny.com amavisd-new[23072]: (22857-01) ESMTP: 500 5.5.2 Error: bad syntax; PENALIZ

Re: Re[6]: after upgrade

2004-10-12 Thread Loren Wilton
> BTW: Thanks to trying understand my english! :D You have good English! I'd have a much harder time understanding your Portugese, even though I'm sure it is excellent. :-) Loren

Re[6]: after upgrade

2004-10-12 Thread Marcos Saint'Anna
Hello Loren, Seems to be working now... I think you're right. This is the command line I'm using now: /usr/bin/spamd -d -m 10 -v -u vpopmail --max-conn-per-child=1 \ -r /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid --siteconfigpath=/etc/mail/spamassassin \ --configpath=/usr/share/spamassassin -s /var/log/spamd.log

Re: sa-learn question

2004-10-12 Thread Rakesh
I think you should check the SpamAssassin wiki for the solution to your problem http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BayesInSpamAssassin Rakesh Lance wrote: Alright, we're running courier IMAP along with pop3 but our spool is all Maildir format. I've got a public spam folder for certain people so

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