Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Damien
Fair enough, all good business reasons not to switch MPI platforms at Microsoft's end. Damien On 2014-07-17 4:29 PM, Fab Tillier wrote: [resending now that I've joined the Open MPI users list, sorry for the duplicate] Hi Jed, Thanks for looping me on this mail thread. Jed Brown wrote on Th

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Fab Tillier
[resending now that I've joined the Open MPI users list, sorry for the duplicate] Hi Jed, Thanks for looping me on this mail thread. Jed Brown wrote on Thu, 17 Jul 2014 at 11:19:42 > Damien writes: > >> Is this something that could be funded by Microsoft, and is it time >> to approach them

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread n8tm
If you support with intel fortran why not intel c99? User can still use msvc Tim Prince Original message From: Ralph Castain Date: To: Jed Brown Cc: Open MPI Users Subject: Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013 Well, yeah - I dig that. However, barring doin

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Jed Brown
Damien writes: > Visual Studio can link libs compiled with Intel. The headers also need to fall within the language subset implemented by MSVC, but this is easier to ensure and the Windows ecosystem seems to be happy with binary distribution. pgpHHN3ASH0QJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Damien
Visual Studio can link libs compiled with Intel. We used to make binaries available for Windows with Open-MPI. On 2014-07-17 12:58 PM, Ralph Castain wrote: Well, yeah - I dig that. However, barring doing something stupid, I am hopeful we'll be okay if I continue OMPI's practice of staying wit

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Ralph Castain
Well, yeah - I dig that. However, barring doing something stupid, I am hopeful we'll be okay if I continue OMPI's practice of staying within the C99 standard. If MSVC won't support that, then we're out of luck anyway because there is no way OMPI is going back to pre-C99 at this stage. On Jul 1

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Jed Brown
Ralph Castain writes: > Yeah, but I'm cheap and get the Intel compilers for free :-) Fine for you, but not for the people trying to integrate your library in a stack developed using MSVC. pgpDnaWHH5nyy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Jed Brown
Rob Latham writes: > hey, (almost all of) c99 support is in place in visual studio 2013 > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2013/07/19/c99-library-support-in-visual-studio-2013.aspx This talks about the standard library, but not whether the C frontend has acquired these features. Are they a

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Ralph Castain
Yeah, but I'm cheap and get the Intel compilers for free :-) On Jul 17, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Rob Latham wrote: > > > On 07/17/2014 01:19 PM, Jed Brown wrote: >> Damien writes: >> >>> Is this something that could be funded by Microsoft, and is it time to >>> approach them perhaps? MS MPI is b

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Rob Latham
On 07/17/2014 01:19 PM, Jed Brown wrote: Damien writes: Is this something that could be funded by Microsoft, and is it time to approach them perhaps? MS MPI is based on MPICH, and if mainline MPICH isn't supporting Windows anymore, then there won't be a whole lot of development in an increa

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Jed Brown
Damien writes: > Is this something that could be funded by Microsoft, and is it time to > approach them perhaps? MS MPI is based on MPICH, and if mainline MPICH > isn't supporting Windows anymore, then there won't be a whole lot of > development in an increasingly older Windows build. With t

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Damien
Is this something that could be funded by Microsoft, and is it time to approach them perhaps? MS MPI is based on MPICH, and if mainline MPICH isn't supporting Windows anymore, then there won't be a whole lot of development in an increasingly older Windows build. With the Open-MPI roadmap, the

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Ralph Castain
Guess we just haven't seen that much activity on the OMPI list, even when we did support Windows. I'll see what I can do - I think this new method will allow it to be stable and require far less maintenance than what we had before. On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Jed Brown wrote: > Rob Latham

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Jed Brown
Rob Latham writes: > Well, I (and dgoodell and jsquyers and probably a few others of you) can > say from observing disc...@mpich.org traffic that we get one message > about Windows support every month -- probably more often. Seems to average at least once a week. We also see regular petsc supp

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Rob Latham
On 07/17/2014 05:48 AM, Ralph Castain wrote: FWIW: now that I have access to the Intel compiler suite, including for Windows, I've been toying with creating a more stable support solution for OMPI on Windows. It's a low-priority task for me because it isn't clear that we have very many Windows

Re: [OMPI users] Salloc and mpirun problem

2014-07-17 Thread Timur Ismagilov
With Open MPI 1.9a1r32252 (Jul 16, 2014 (nightly snapshot tarball)) i got this output (same?): $ salloc -N2 --exclusive -p test -J ompi salloc: Granted job allocation 645686 $LD_PRELOAD=/mnt/data/users/dm2/vol3/semenov/_scratch/mxm/mxm-3.0/lib/libmxm.so  mpirun  -mca mca_base_env_list 'LD_PRELO

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Ralph Castain
FWIW: now that I have access to the Intel compiler suite, including for Windows, I've been toying with creating a more stable support solution for OMPI on Windows. It's a low-priority task for me because it isn't clear that we have very many Windows users in HPC land, and the cygwin port already

Re: [OMPI users] latest stable and win7/msvc2013

2014-07-17 Thread Michael.Rachner
Dear people, As a continuation of the hint of Damien , who suggested using MPICH on WIN7 : MPICH has already stopped supporting WINDOWS in the past. MPICH recommends using MS-MPI for WINDOWS, which is a derivative from MPICH2. You may download the binary (for free) from the landing page fo