Preupgrade and first thoughts

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Eggers
In short, there are some teething issues, but nothing that shouldn't be able to be worked around. First of all, the basics for my system. CPU: Intel P4 at 2.60 GHz Memory: 1.5 GB RDR ram Disk: 120 GB IDE ext 3 Graphics: NVidia 7600 GS overclocked Driver: NVidia 2

Re: Preupgrade and first thoughts

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:33:31 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Kam Leo wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: >> >> --snip >> >> >>> Also, updates are listed twice when running yum from the command l

Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15

2011-06-04 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 28 May 2011 05:30:10 -0400, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: > I just did a fresh install of Fedora 15 x86_64 with KDE. > > KDE is mostly unusable in Fedora 15 while it was fine in Fedora 14 (with > nvidia driver). > > The display seems to freeze for a few seconds every few seconds. > > Menus take

Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15

2011-06-05 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 04:48:29 +, Mark Eggers wrote: -- embarrassed snip -- > > options nvidia AccelerateTrapezoids=0 > > d) ln -s /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf nvidia (so boot doesn't complain) > e) reboot Do not do this with 275.09. This will cause the boot to h

Re: SELinux is preventing /usr/libexec/gnome-session-check-accelerated-helper from 'read, write' accesses on the chr_file nvidiactl.

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:28:03 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/07/2011 06:46 AM, Lawrence E Graves wrote: >> SELinux is preventing >> /usr/libexec/gnome-session-check-accelerated-helper from 'read, write' >> accesses on the chr_file nvidiactl. > > Have you tried following the instructions SELinux gi

smartd fails to start after upgrade from F14 to F15

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Eggers
smartd fails to start on boot after I upgraded from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15. Right now I'm using the default /etc/smartd.conf file (which is not ideal). This uses the default scanning values, which are: DEVICESCAN -H -m root -M exec /usr/lib/smartd_actions -n standby,10,q /usr/lib/smartd_action

Re: smartd fails to start after upgrade from F14 to F15

2011-06-08 Thread Mark Eggers
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 06:56:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: -- snip -- > If so, then "systemctl enable smartd.service" will fix this. This appears to have created the non-existent link: /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/smartd.service > There are a number of packages whose %post scrip

Re: Google Earth anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:32:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Before moving to F15 I was running F11 with the nVidia drivers. > > With the current kernel and nVidia drivers the X server will lock up > with 100% cpu usage when Google Earth is startedat least my system. The NVidia forum has a lot of

Re: Does fedora 15 supports latest hardware ?

2011-06-16 Thread Mark Eggers
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:44:23 +0200, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:35:24PM +0530, Navdeep Singh Sidhu wrote: > >> Fedora 15 doesn't works on my Laptop. So i have a question, Does it >> supports latest Hardware? >> Like >> 2nd Generation i7 Quad core 2720QM 2.20GHz Boost up

Re: Java Gnome 3 maximized window mouse bugs

2011-06-17 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:44:44 -0400, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Frank Murphy > wrote: > >> As you know swing is not perfect, >> just overlaid on awt. (despite import javax.Swing) and it may be that >> you need Oracles JDk, to get all the classes you need, >> have y

Re: Again: the Nvidia driver does not work with Gnome 3

2011-06-17 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:25:51 +0200, Alexander Volovics wrote: > I would appreciate hearing from Fed15/Gnome3 users who (maybe) have the > same graphics card: Geforce 7300 LE in a Dell Dimension E520 and have > also experienced (and maybe solved) this problem. > Suggestions on how to solve the prob

Re: Java Gnome 3 maximized window mouse bugs

2011-06-17 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 01:06:43 -0400, Ricardo Veguilla wrote: > And a very minor annoyance: Gnome3 relies on the x-windows WM_CLASS > property to track applications instead of windows (see > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/ApplicationBased). Java swing apps, as > far I can tell, don't set this prop

Re: Paradigm shift going from Gnome2 to Gnome3

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Eggers
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:38:46 -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: > On 06/20/2011 03:00 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:57:24PM -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: >> >>> On 06/20/2011 09:44 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> >>> > There is a paradigm shift going from Gnome2 to Gnome3 which

Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:15:39 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Please test and provide feedback: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15 > > This seems to have affected nvidia binary only video driver users. > > kevin I've been running fine with gnome-shell-3.0.2-3.fc15.

Re: gnome 3 doesn't start any more

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:18:01 +, Mark Eggers wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:15:39 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> Please test and provide feedback: >> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-shell-3.0.2-4.fc15 >> >> This seems to have affected n

Re: system monitor appears twice in F15 Application List.

2011-06-27 Thread Mark Eggers
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:20:01 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > On 06/27/2011 03:04 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> Does anyone know why system monitor appears twice in the F15 >> Application list? > > Not on my system. There's only one, linked to gnome-system-monitor. Did > you upgrade or do a clean ins

Re: Living with Systemd

2011-07-22 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:00:02 +0100, Arthur Dent wrote: > Hello All, > > I am gradually getting used to systemd. I can now just about force my > fingers to type "systemctl restart httpd.service" even though my brain > is itching to write "service httpd restart" and I find this cheatsheet > to be v

Re: Living with Systemd

2011-07-22 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:26:24 +0100, Arthur Dent wrote: > I was really hoping that someone would reply saying something like "You > idiot! - Don't you know, all you need to do is to use the > --tellmewhatswrong switch with systemctl and all will be revealed!" But > alas, no-one has said anything...

Re: f15+Gnome3: how to put on desktop an applet for see cpu and network usage

2011-08-14 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 27 May 2011 14:43:49 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: > Hi, on my f14 I had place on my panel the system monitor, witch show me > the CPU and network usage. > > How to do that into F15+Gnome3? > > Many thanks. > > -- > Dario Lesca If you're not married to the idea of an applet, I find that g

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-07 Thread Mark Eggers
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 11:23:26 -0700, Frederick N. Brier wrote: > On 09/02/2011 07:31 AM, Stefan Held wrote: >> Am Freitag, den 02.09.2011, 09:44 -0400 schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: >> >>> Great points. If we didn't have change and innovation we'd all still >>> be using 80x25 monochrome text mode termin

Re: Java Support in Firefox

2010-07-23 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:17:49 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > On 07/23/2010 09:16 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Nathan W >> wrote: >> >> >>> has anyone been able to get .jsp files/java applets to work in Fedora? >>> >>> >>> i'm currently using openjdk and

Re: Sound Streaming Problem

2010-07-30 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:09:13 -0500, Rick Sewill wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/30/2010 10:43 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have a recurring problem with sound streaming with Fedora 13 (and >> earlier versions - I am having this problem

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Mark Eggers
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:29:51 +0900, Takehiko Abe wrote: >>> I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision > >> long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can > >> possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is > >> unuseable for an ord

Re: SELinux

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Eggers
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:10:12 +0900, Takehiko Abe wrote: >> I've had exactly the opposite experience running SELinux, even with >> hand- compiled applications from a variety of sources - including my >> own. > > You say "the opposite" but you seem to have a lot of problems and spent > fair amount

Re: GNOME PDF creator

2010-09-07 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:29:52 -0400, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone recommend a program to create PDF documents? I have used > convert from imagemagik, but would really like something easier to use > to create a PDF document from a set of JPG files, for example. > > Thanks, > Alex > ' OpenOff

Re: oowriter won't execute as user

2010-09-07 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:16:44 -0700, JD wrote: > On 09/07/2010 01:03 PM, Jim wrote: >>On 09/07/2010 02:59 PM, JD wrote: >>> On 09/07/2010 11:46 AM, Jim wrote: FC13/KDE oowriter will not execute as user, but it will execute as Root. $ ls -al oo* -rwxr-xr-x. 1 r

Re: Multiple monitors, two video cards with different chipsets

2010-09-15 Thread Mark Eggers
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:50:49 -0500, Ron Siven wrote: > No reply means "no", I'm guessing? > > I don't think it's it a stupid question. Is it? My windows 7 instance > handles them both just fine. The ATI is onboard video, while the nVidia > is in the PCIe slot. > > I've searched exhaustively,

Re: Whee, Xorg crash (Fedora 13 2.6.34.7-56.fc13.i686)!

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:24:53 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: > So I'm using the latest unstable version of Chrome browser, updated my > kernel today, and BAM, when I try to view a video on cnn.com Xorg > crashes. This just started happening today (I've been running this > version of the chrome browser

Re: Whee, Xorg crash (Fedora 13 2.6.34.7-56.fc13.i686)!

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:26:11 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: > Flash version 10.1.85.3 > xfce4 window manager > 32 bit kernel (as shown in the Xorg.0.log below) After a bit of searching, nothing jumps out at me, but I've had no experience with ATI cards. I've seen some similar crashes reported on the

OOcalc plotting performance issue

2011-02-11 Thread Mark Eggers
I'm having some pretty severe performance problems with OpenOffice Calc. Here's the environment: Intel 2.67 GHz P4 (yes it's underpowered, but see below) NVidia 7600 GS over-clocked with 260.19.36 binary driver 1.5 GB memory Fedora 14 latest patches The applications: OpenOffice Calc 3.3.0-20.2

Re: Suggestion: Replace List by Newsgroup

2011-02-11 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:11:34 +0100, Outway wrote: > Is there a specific reason why the fedoraproject chose to use a mailing > list instead of a newsgroup? You could read the mailing list from a list to newsgroup service like gmane. 1. Subscribe to the list 2. Set it so that you don't receive ma

Re: No need for AV tools on Linux, eh?

2011-02-11 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:26:14 +0100, mattias wrote: > Are we talking about antivirus software? If so > No need for it on linux I disagree. It's not so much about keeping Linux safe (although there have been and continue to be exploits), but it is about keeping people who consume information from

Re: "why is my Linux so damn slow?"

2011-02-12 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:51:25 +0100, M. Fioretti wrote: > Greetings, > > when I upgraded from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14, about twenty days ago, the > system (which wasn't doing really well even before the upgrade) became > almost unusable. The problem is, very likely, upstream of Fedora, but I > woul

Re: Guidelines for a noob

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Eggers
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:22:20 -0500, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: > Hi everybody: > And this take us at my following doubt: There is a mirror or repository > from where I can download upgrades, packages and all that stuff? Again > with Ubuntu, inside my country I can choose two different

Re: fedora on lenova T520 w nvidia optimus ?

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Eggers
On Wed, 04 May 2011 00:05:32 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > Interesting looking laptop - and the msata drive thing looks like a > (reasonably priced) way to add SSD for root partition (leaving regular > drive for data). > > So does anyone know what works/not works ? > > Esp the Nvidia Optim

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING!

2011-05-30 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 31 May 2011 01:18:47 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Montag, den 30.05.2011, 09:11 +0100 schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! > > After reading this thread I still don't know what exactly you did to > upgrade yo

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-30 Thread Mark Eggers
On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:56:02 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 07:49 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: >> If not, then I will have to wait until NVidia fixes their drivers >> (again). > > Or, you can uninstall the binary blob, and follow the instructions here > to install a

Re: Yum update from Fedora 14 -> 15 WARNING! [OT]

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 31 May 2011 18:19:07 +0200, Alexander Volovics wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:15:57AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> >> Your understanding is, on the whole, correct. However, you can >> >> always use akmod-nvidia instead. If there's not a kmod for the >> >> current kernel, akmo

Re: Selinux and Nvidia drivers

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 31 May 2011 10:30:21 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/30/2011 06:40 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: >> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 07:25:45PM +0900, Misha Shnurapet wrote: >> >>> 30.05.2011, 18:47, "Alexander Volovics" : Wat is the r

Re: f14 gnome unusable

2010-11-03 Thread Mark Eggers
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 18:19:27 -0500, Brian Ericson wrote: > To test that, I compared my W510 against a friend's W500 (which had also > been upgraded). We started "top" and then selected > "System->Preferences" and using the down-arrow key to cycle through the > menu options. "top" showed XOrg top

Re: f14 gnome unusable

2010-11-05 Thread Mark Eggers
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:27:48 -0500, Steve Berg wrote: >> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=253668 >> >> Quoting the relevant bit: >> Update - apparently this issue is related to the GTK theme in use. The >> default (Fedora, or Clearlooks, or a few others) results in this slow >> behav

Downgrading from F14 to F13

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Eggers
I'm having a lot of issues with F14, mostly related to using the proprietary NVidia driver and text resolution. There are also some performance issues with the last several drivers and cairo/cairomm. I didn't see any of these problems with F13. Right now I'm running a pre-release of of the NVid

Re: Downgrading from F14 to F13

2010-11-11 Thread Mark Eggers
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:54:38 -0500, Robert Myers wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > >> So, is there any clean way to downgrade F14 to F13 other than backing >> up the requisite files and doing a clean install? > > What's the downsid

Re: Downgrading from F14 to F13

2010-11-12 Thread Mark Eggers
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:35:50 -0500, Robert Myers wrote: > I didn't mean to sound smug. Short of the complete image backups that > almost no one bothers to do, there isn't much to be done other than to > suck it up and do it all over. BTDT. Got a closet full of T-shirts. > > It doesn't help you

Re: Emma frontend ???, for MySQL

2010-12-31 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:12:18 -0500, Jim wrote: > Fedora 14. > > emma-0.6.tar.gz > > Trying to compile emma frontend for MySQL but I get Error below and I > don't see a python2.4 in Fedora > > # ./setup.py > /usr/bin/env: python2.4: No such file or directory Edit the files and change python2.4

Re: Emma frontend ???, for MySQL

2011-01-01 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 00:13:52 -0500, Jim wrote: > pygobject2-2.21.5-3.fc14.i686 is already installed . OK, that was just a quick guess based on what I thought you had installed from your first post. Here's a list of the rpms you gave from an earlier post: # rpm -qa | grep gtk authconfig-gtk-6.1

Re: Gnome3 available in F14 to evaluate it.

2011-01-08 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:27:12 +, mike cloaked wrote: > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Aaron Konstam > wrote: >> If you know that it is possible to evaluate the GNOME3 under F14 stop >> reading here. >> >> You can get a look at Gnome3 by doing: yum install gnome-shell >> >> Then go to System->

Re: Gnome3 available in F14 to evaluate it.

2011-01-09 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 10:33:13 -0800, suvayu ali wrote: > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: >> spend most of my time in either >> WindowManager (for performance) or KDE (for eye candy). > > Do you mean WindowMaker? I find it is very efficient and light weig

Re: SELinux

2011-01-19 Thread Mark Eggers
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:51:03 +0200, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > On 18/01/2011 06:22 πμ, Tim wrote: > > < snip > > >> SELinux is another of the protective measures on your system, > > A small comment here , actually SELinux is an NSA invention which is > supposed to provide extra security to yo

Re: Finding programs

2011-01-25 Thread Mark Eggers
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:28:48 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: > On 26 January 2011 00:07, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 01/26/2011 05:23 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >>> I'm not sure how new users are supposed to find evince. >> >> Maybe it is the same method that many folks should use to find things. >> h

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Eggers
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:26:33 -0500, Luan Minh Pham wrote: > On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 09:42:37 PM Matthew Miller wrote: >> > I would recommend not to use fedup. I'm facing a lot of troubles >> > after going the fedup route. Although not officially supported, you >> > could try upgrading via

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Eggers
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:39:37 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55:53PM +1030, Tim wrote: >> Tim: >> >> There's no desktop chooser (in the GDM logon screen) on Fedora to >> >> let me quickly see what desktop I'm using. >> >> Michael Schwendt: >> > There is. It appears after you

Re: fedup major fail

2013-01-18 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:46:20 -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 09:54:40AM -0500, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: >> What happens if you use the iso option and point to the iso file on >> your HD presuming that you haven't deleted it?? > > I had used that method when I upgraded my lapto

Re: HTML5

2013-07-30 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:47:30 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Martin Skjöldebrand > wrote: >> On Saturday 27 July 2013 17.32.55 James Hogarth wrote: >>> On 27 July 2013 05:33, Richard Vickery >>> wrote: >>> > Are there Linux testing tools for HTML5 code? Blackberr

Re: What the heck is all this?

2013-08-07 Thread Mark Eggers
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 07:39:27 -0400, linuxnutster wrote: > On 08/07/2013 07:26 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> Just got this output from a yum update this morning: >> >> ... >>Cleanup: glib2-2.36.3-2.fc19 >> 52/74 Cleanup: python-fedora-0.3.32.3-2.fc1

Dumb gdm question

2013-12-19 Thread Mark Eggers
Fedora 20 (from fedup) Dell Inspiron N7110 Intel Integrated Graphics Controller With Fedora 19, the GDM login screen would blank after a certain amount of time. With Fedora 20, this no longer happens. I would like to restore Fedora 19's behaviour, so I can leave the laptop on and access it remo

Re: applypatch

2013-03-05 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:55:50 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > cpan asks me for the program: applypatch I cannot find it. > Should I just ignore it? > > Thank. It's a part of makepatch: http://search.cpan.org/dist/makepatch/script/applypatch http://search.cpan.org/~jv/makepatch/ A quic

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-23 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:21:37 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/23/2013 02:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> egreshko@meimei ~]$ export EDITOR=/usr/bin/nano [egreshko@meimei ~]$ >> crontab -e > > [joe@khorlia ~]$ echo $EDITOR nano > > And, if I just run nano from the command line, it works, because > /usr

Re: Problem with cron

2013-03-24 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 23:12:44 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/23/2013 10:47 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote: >> On 3-23-13 15:21:37 Joe Zeff wrote: >>> [joe@khorlia ~]$ echo $EDITOR nano >> >> This is your problem. You're missing a full path and crontab(1) >> requires it. >> >> > If so, why does this w

Re: "hackers"

2013-04-24 Thread Mark Eggers
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:54:07 -0400, Digimer wrote: > On 04/23/2013 10:42 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: >> Does anyone care to help me change the negative connotation that the >> outside world has of this term, one step at a time? The CBC just used >> the term with a negative frame on the Tuesday, 23

Re: fedup f18->f19 going OK?

2013-07-02 Thread Mark Eggers
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:10:50 +0800, Dick Roark wrote: > +1 Slick, quick(ish) and mighty, mighty pleasin'! > > Thanks for the heads-up. > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Harish Pillay > wrote: > >> > I'm about to try fedup f18->f19. Any reports good/bad on this route? >> >> worked for my