guage=EN) and be fine for at
least 10 years or so. Besides, they are very stable.
Take this into consideration while discussing your options here.
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>
Can you extract that info from these ?
man w
man who
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Google search: linux keyboard mouse activity
Example:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/222606/detecting-keyboard-mouse-activity-in-linux
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Try debugging it:
# echo 7 > /proc/fs/cifs/cifsFYI
# < execute your mount here >
Use sufficient number of lines (here 20) to display all debug messages:
# dmesg | tail --lines=20
Post the output to the list.
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Do you have it installed ?
$ yum list "*cifs-utils*"
Have you checked your firewall rules ?
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> On 18/01/2011 16:03, JB wrote:
> > JB gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >> ...
> >
> > Do you have it installed ?
> > $ yum list "*cifs-utils*"
>
> That was it! I installed cifs-utils and the
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> Any gui for posix acl?
>
Search Google: linux posix acl
Eiciel
http://rofi.roger-ferrer.org/eiciel/
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Read this carefully (it will scare you if you bother to get deep into it):
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/RemoveSETUID
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ty.
That's why complex systems (civilizations, societies, economies, financials,
computing, etc) are inevitably destined to fail or fall.
I am tempted to say - it is a law of nature.
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Well, I think we deserve it ...
Jerome Hines, Paul Plishka - Verdi - Don Carlo - Il Grande Inquisitor
pt simple. Unfortunately simple systems are not capable of being your
> desktop.
> ...
Google search: mathematical proof MORE complexity is LESS security
It looks like quite few hits.
Let's take a look at these papers and share our findings here.
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gt; ...
Would that help ?
# yum distro-sync
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ng more. It will take 15 min or so.
Then pass to the list the following displays:
$ dmesg
$ lspci
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penchange-devel
download to your machine the man-pages package
# rpm -i --replacefile man-pages
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Alan Cox lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
>> ...
>> Alan Cox lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
>> ...
>> Security models are complex for a complex system. That would appear to be
>> unavoidable given the law of necessary variety.
>> ...
>> On 1/2o/
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes:
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I have to guess somewhat, which is a polite way to admit ...
Pass these on kernel line:
xdriver=vesa nomodeset agp=off
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Remove "quiet" and
add "ignore_loglevel"
(without "" characters) to the boot options to see where it hangs.
Report back.
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Kernel command line:
always keep --> ignore_loglevel
add --> enforcing=0
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y as well is:
nousb
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I do not see any audio (sound) device controller in your lspci ...
Is that possible ?
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Why can not we do that with security of a complex computer system ?
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t be
disabled ?
You would have to nuke your entire system to get it disinfected :-)
I look forward to that day ...
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> This is /boot/grub/grub.conf
>
> #boot=/dev/sda
> default=1
> timeout=25
> splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> # hiddenmenu
> title Upgrade to Fedora 14 (Laughlin)
Just change
default=1 to 0
and restart.
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Maurizio Marini datalogica.com> writes:
>
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:02:14 + (UTC)
> JB gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just change
> > default=1 to 0
> > and restart.
> thnx, but i use tab to select wich one to load, upgrade kernel oer f13 kernel;
> i am
remove anything else:
ignore_loglevel enforcing=0 initcall_debug
Run it.
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Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes:
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> On 1/24/2011 1:43 PM, JB wrote:
> > I am looking at that dmesg posted by you - CentOS had some errors too.
> > We have to reset the kernel line and run it again with max verbose
> > debugging.
> >
> > Please r
Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes:
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Let's take a shot at hard disk problems:
keep only -> ignore_loglevel enforcing=0 initcall_debug
Keep these 2 runs separately.
1st run:
add -> pci=nomsi pci=nommconf pci=nocrs
2nd run (remove 1st run added parameters):
rdb
move 1st run added parameters):
add -> noapic nolapic nolapic_timer
3rd run (remove 2nd run added parameters):
nohz=off highres=off
4rd run (add last parameter to 3rd run):
nohz=off highres=off clocksource=acpi_pm
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Ashley M. Kirchner pcraft.com> writes:
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Read Lamar Owen's post.
You may search Google and Bugzilla for problems related to your Broadcom
CNB20LE board.
There is a chance that Alan drops by and he is expert on hard disks.
Tomorrow will try some more.
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Maurizio Marini datalogica.com> writes:
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> Hi JB and others,
>
> before trying
> # yum distro-sync
> as you suggested me, i would try to understand the issue with preupgrade.
> I have restarted my nb and i see it hangs on infamous:
>
> wait
es or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
On F14.
Kernel configuration:
$ less /boot/config-*
search for NAT
If configured as modules, see kernel modules:
$ less /lib/modules/2.6.*/modules.dep
search for nat (or nf_nat)
Test:
# modprobe nf_nat
Other config files:
# less /etc/sysconfig/iptabl
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> On 1/24/2011 4:33 PM, JB wrote:
> > Read Lamar Owen's post.
> > You may search Google and Bugzilla for problems related to your Broadcom
> > CNB20LE board.
> >
> > There is a chance that Alan drops by and
y come up with
a working software, again and again.
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cess of your other servers :-)
When you file the report, let us know (here in this thread) its Bugzilla # so
we can follow it as well.
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Format: integer
e.g. boot_delay=1000
It may need to be adjusted by trial and error.
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gt; That doesn't sound very wise.
>
> It is configurable.
>
> Rahul
>
It should be the other way around.
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Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes:
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> On 01/27/2011 04:49 PM, JB wrote:
> >
> > It should be the other way around.
>
> You are free to suggest that to yum developers via bugzilla or their
> mailing list.
>
> Rahul
>
Let your voice be heard.
Bugzi
org >& /dev/null &&
ping -W 1 -c 1 www.yahoo.com >& /dev/null && TORF=false || TORF=true; echo
$TORF; sleep 1; done
true
true
true
true
^C
$
Nota bene !
Let's assume negation is represented by "~" sign.
~(a && b) equivalent to ~a || ~b
~(a || b)
ernel-devel.i686 2.6.35.10-74.fc14 @updates
kernel-doc.noarch 2.6.35.10-74.fc14 @updates
kernel-headers.i686 2.6.35.10-74.fc14 @updates
$ yum info kernel-devel
$ rpm -ql kernel-devel
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# rpm -V openoffice.org-writer
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Kostas Sfakiotakis cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
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> On 29/01/2011 11:04 μμ, JB wrote:
> > Kostas Sfakiotakis cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Greetings ,
> > >
> > > Lately i have been having a lot of issues running the Word
Terry Barnaby beam.ltd.uk> writes:
> ...
Give us unedited outputs:
$ cat /etc/fstab
$ cat /etc/mtab
$ cat /proc/mounts
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ith the rpm database .
That's fine.
> ...
> Anyway could u please remind me the command in order to see the last
> updates ?
# ls -al /var/log/yum*
# less /var/log/yum
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;proc/mounts" is even
more useful as it is generally more accurate than /etc/mtab).
Let it be there as long as needed to catch the difference between good and
bad shutdowns (as you said the bad one happens sporadically, every 4th
shutdown or so).
Keep in mind that system update may replace thi
JB gmail.com> writes:
>
> #
> # debugging snapshot statements
> #
> date >> /halt.debug
> cat /etc/mtab >> /halt.debug
Kostas Sfakiotakis cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
>
> On 30/01/2011 12:37 μμ, JB wrote:
>
> # yum distro-sync
> ...
It has done what is supposed to do and the result is a good sign.
Let me go back, as promised, to this problem.
> In any way i try to run it . For example if
race -o strace.oo-writer.debug openoffice.org -writer
and analyze it or post the debugging output to the list here.
You are set.
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gt; /halt.debug
cat /etc/mtab >> /halt.debug
echo "cat /proc/mounts" >> /halt.debug
cat /proc/mounts >> /halt.debug
#
...
Secondly, I have few things to check with regard to all of this. Perhaps
something p
ot be enough, so ...
- disable selinux entirely
You can do it on the kernel command line or /etc/sysconfig/selinux - but you
have to shutdown twice in order to test the halt script.
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hat's all as far as what we are doing here in this thread.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akonadi
Be serious ... :-)
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Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes:
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> On 01/30/2011 12:52 PM, JB wrote:
> > Joe,
> > I do not mean to be touchy, but ... your [Wandering OT] is really strange
> >
> > It is KDE related. That's all as far as what we are doing here in this
> > thread.
> &g
4 I would have expected them to be 4.
> The server is Fedora 14 as well.
Poke around a little ...
Do you have both nfs3 and nfs4 fs in /proc ?
# find /proc -iname "*nfs*"
# ls -al /proc/fs/
# cat /proc/fs/...
Use some nfs-specific tools to verify these things.
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> ...
1.
Add firewall log rules to ip(6)tables (both client and server).
To capture any nfs3 or nfs4 related errors (some traffic may be unsolicited:
error or control messages, NEW in terms of iptables)
/etc/sysconfig/iptables:
/etc/sysconfig/ip6tables:
...
ought down.
Next, the halt script is executed that will try to unmount external fs shares
(e.g. nfs), and of course will fail.
The fix:
# Networking could be needed for NFS root.
[ $subsys = NetworkManager ] && continue
Will that make you use NetworkManager now ? :-)
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-
debugging
statements recording /etc/mtab AND /proc/mounts after each 'mount'.
If you confirm it, I will be able to request a fix in Bugzilla.
It would also indicate some bug in 'mount' itself as I am not sure that 'mount'
should be allowed to overwrite one
Neal Becker gmail.com> writes:
>
> In recent fedoras, core dumps seem to be intercepted and handled by abrtd.
>
> What if I want my core dump of my code?
>
abrt.conf(5)
/etc/abrt/abrt.conf
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# file /etc/init.d/network
/etc/init.d/network: Bourne-Again shell script text executable
# /etc/init.d/network status
bash: /etc/init.d/network: Permission denied
# sh /etc/init.d/network status
Configured devices:
lo
Currently active devices:
lo eth0
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“It ain't what you don't
GNOME I just do because I am able (sysadmin).
>
Olav,
with all due respect ...
Because you are GNOME list moderator, does not qualify you to be one for this
list.
As a matter of fact, you should distance yourself from GNOME after all that
DE garbage they delivered to Fedora users, all over the
en this and "with all due respect".
>
I do not think you are up to the task if you are confused about the above ...
This is not a list to be "moderated" by half-witts of your caliber.
Get lost.
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he showed that he is a complete buffoon !
I say to him once again - get lost !
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Mikkel L. Ellertson gmail.com> writes:
> ...
> JB,
> It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think
> of it as a job reference.
>
> Mikkel
> - --
Mikkel,
you are very easy here to "set up" (because that's what it is)
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes:
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> Mr. Pot, may I introduce you to my friend Mr. Kettle?
Well, welcome to the club.
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screening and pad-downs :-)
I am for restoring "Linda" to her full list membership, w/o moderation.
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> On 04-01-12 20:08, JB wrote:
> > I think this list should not be moderated at all because as I already said
> > it
> > can be easily manipulated into killing it.
>
> IMO that Linda person is killing this list
F16:
# find / \! -fstype ext4 -print -prune
/
# find / \! -fstype ext4 -prune -o -print
#
I am not able to put a finger on it yet; you may have more luck.
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I would suggest that you post it on Fedora devel list, or, file a report for
a systemd component at bugzilla.redhat.com, in order to make the systemd devs
aware of it (they may not read this list).
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$ yum info polkit-desktop-policy
...
I hope this will get you started, eventually with their site, devs, or
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lush the route cache:
# ip route flush cache
Now try *separate* entries:
# ping -n -c 2 -I source_ip target_ip
# ping -n -c 2 -I source_if target_ip
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or similar net tool would allow them to see both ICMPs
(request and echo).
They could test the target_ip from their net too.
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n SysV/LSB scripts)
and DE with low resources usage and tailored for desktops
- Fedora having systemd parallel boot and DE tailored for small and simple
devices
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Marek Piatek kaust.edu.sa> writes:
> ...
> What other things should I consider before upgrading from Fedora 11 to Fedora
> 15 or 16? Thanks!
It is said that where there are two Fedora users there are (at least) three
favorite Fedora choices :-)
Good Luck !
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edora 14 on x64, but get exactly the same on a f14 i386.
> I'm running the same test on centos-6 x64 just now
>
> Regards
I would say take a look at pertinent info (from another terminal on that
machine):
$ w
$ ps aux |grep -i pts
Threads:
$ ps -eLf |grep -i pts
$ ps axms |grep -i
ead this stuff >
...
The app
===
Because you indicated that you get debug messages up to the moment of lockup,
if you have access to source code you could try to locate the last debug msg
place, or from your gdb session, and try narrow the place or logic where it
happens.
It is q
:0.6.12-4.fc14
Complete!
#
$ dmesh --help
bash: /usr/libexec/pk-command-not-found: No such file or directory
$
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PackageKit.
It should not be in it in the first place.
It has been discussed on the list at time of F13 and rejected by users.
I have reported it to PackageKit devs a year ago.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=641311
Result ?
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On Abstinence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngiJhmoFKk
nce, Clemens
Unfortunately there are apps that may act incorrectly, either with noatime or
relatime.
Possible examples: procmail, mutt, mailx, perhaps few more known and unknown
yet (incl. sysadmin commands).
So, it is your call.
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pliant file system. Turn off atime and its
very non standards compliant, turn to relatime and its not standards compliant
but nobody will break (which is good)
..."
I assume he was talking POSIX ? Standards (file systems) test suites ?
Btw, is that comment still valid, and also for ext4 ?
Is
un them as a cron
job and collect data as well).
Also:
- System-Preferences-Power Management
- man hdparm
# hdparm -I /dev/sd?
...
- $ yum info hddtemp
- Gogle search: linux hard disk temperature
http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/monitoring-hard-disks-smart
...
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Frode online.no> writes:
>
> Will there still be an option to install the new grub 2 in the os
> partition instead of the disk boot partition?
>
> Frode Petersen
I have done just that with F16 RCx live-cd to hd installation, so it is final.
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Perhaps you could make your statement in the upcoming Fedora Project Board and
FESCo elections ?
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Fernando Cassia gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 15:45, JB gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps you could make your statement in the upcoming Fedora Project Board and
> FESCo elections
>
>
> Nobody forces you to use BTRFS, or IBM JFS or XFS for that matt
s.
> ...
But what about those atractive features (some ZFS-like) the users would like to
have, e.g.:
- checksumming
- roll back
- snapshots
- pools
Is it possible to implement them on ext4 ?
Perhaps writing off ext4 in favor of btrfs in context of new features
development is premature ?
JB
bove, seems like the most
optimal path. The current performance of ext4 vice btrfs justifies such a move.
Everybody would eventually benefit, but nobody with conflicting interests would
control the process.
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er to file your own BZ report.
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a repo (mirror)
Just download it and unpack.
- your machine
If you do not have it, learn how to download it.
Yum makes it easy, the executable is yumdownloader.
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/red-hat-fedora-linux/20689-donwload-kernel-source-using-yum.html
etc.
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> iptables support is compiled into Fedora kernels and is always
> available, therefore no module exists.
>
> -T.C.
That's true, but you spoiled his searching/learning process. And mine too :-)
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T.C. Hollingsworth gmail.com> writes:
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> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:53 AM, JB gmail.com> wrote:
> > T.C. Hollingsworth gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Michael D. Berger
> >> ieee.org>
> > wrote
Zoo to split up ‘gay’ Canadian penguins.
http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2011/11/07/zoo-to-split-up-%e2%80%98gay%e2%80%99-canadian-penguins/
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Thomas Cameron camerontech.com> writes:
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>
> On 11/13/2011 01:15 AM, JB wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > every Fedora release is going downhill ...
>
> Erm, no. Each Fedora release has brought in numerous technical
> improvements. Virtualization, clusteri
created RH to cover low-end market (RH providing services), eliminating
pressures from that side by making life miserable for more formidable than RH
companies and IBM competitors, itself concentrating on lucrative
mid-to-high-end (mostly mainframe once again, please) side.
So, back to the future for I
ties)
- forward-looking - yes, but more reasonable in its choice of projects and
features
- more stable due to above and by delivering when ready
- attracting more devs, also converts from other distros who are often looking
for home but are turned off by RH total control
-
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Bruno Wolff III wolff.to> writes:
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> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:45:34 +0000,
> JB gmail.com> wrote:
> > Some from an independent Fedora devs, others from other distros by
> > adoption of
> > those that are useful and not conflicting with its goals.
>
Thomas Cameron camerontech.com> writes:
>
>
> On 11/13/2011 11:16 AM, JB wrote:
> > ? yahoo.co.jp> writes:
> >
> >> ...
> >> The IT market is massively overweight,
> >> overvalued and engages in enormously wasteful development prac
Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes:
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> On 11/14/2011 01:04 AM, JB wrote:
>
> >
> > Perhaps no fork would be required.
>
> Even if it is "required", it is a lot of work and I am not sure anyone
> with just a opinion would be willing to sign up for
Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes:
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>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:58 AM, JB gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> With regard to composition of governing bodies, it is not that Fedora would
> start from scratch.
>
>
> Let's try again. You reply doesn
After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results:
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html
The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maintain a test
system OS), with implied quality, and for a user.
It is time to blink.
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the woods ?
There are towns in the US that do not observe daylight saving times - should
they get their own time zones too ?
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David gmail.com> writes:
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> On 11/23/2011 4:57 AM, JB wrote:
> > After RH and Fedora statistics, some more results:
> >
> > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-16.html
> >
> > The purpose of a distro project is to deliver a product (not to maint
/North_Dakota/New_Salem, America/Phoenix, America/Boise,
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis, America/Indiana/Marengo,
> America/Indiana/Vincennes, America/Indiana/Tell_City,
> America/Indiana/Petersburg and several others.
> ...
Well, all I can say is we live in interesting times :-)
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