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l from DVD normally just works, what's
triggering this issue? I realize that fedup isn't going to get fixed, I filed
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attached.
If any of my filesystems were left functional I would have, but that seems not
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Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
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This is back, again. Having found out that fedup fails
totally to work on drives with encrypted partitions,
I don't think this is still the case: I did F18->F19 on my laptop
(encrypted /home
ng. If you have a hardware issue I assume you
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On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 11:08 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
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This is back, again. Having found out that fedup fails
totally to work on drives with encrypted partitions,
I don't think this is
changes active until all changes have been entered. It's a user interface issue,
for the moment I don't use it for tricky stuff, but it works well for typical
cases. I'm not sure it's really easier to use than iptables rules, but choices
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On 24 Jul 2013, at 21:31, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Junk wrote:
On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 11:08 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 02:01:43PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
This is back, again. Having found out that fedup fails
totally to work on
Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:08:19AM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 02:01:43PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
This is back, again. Having found out that fedup fails
totally to work on drives with encrypted partitions,
I don&#
worked for me or
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e level of security you need, you might consider envfs. I thought
I did this using "noauto" in fstab and allowing user mount, but at best that was
a few releases ago.
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em it really
is. Also, you should be aware that the entry for mask in the man page for
systemctl explains just how thorough it is, because whoever maintains it might
feel that the existing warning is all that's needed.
Lewis Carroll said it best, "When I use a word, it means just what
hem. In this case it is auto start being disabled, not the
service. People who only use GUI expect the interface will prevent them from
shooting themselves in the foot.
I do like adding noauto and autorun, and prohibit and allow as synonyms and
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the documentation and examples of some features are NOT up
Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
On Monday 29 July 2013 15.47.49 Bill Davidsen wrote:
Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Would you expect a crash in this situation?
I brought my laptop to work for some reason and left it running on
battery. I also had Banshee running, albeith on low volume. I had to
leave
image file... HOPEFULLY brasero will at least
burn the image...
The loop mount stuff is a good way to go, you can keep an image fresh and just
burn it when you need a current copy.
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Richard Shaw wrote:
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Bill Davidsen mailto:david...@tmr.com>> wrote:
Richard Shaw wrote:
... skip spending time getting cdrtools 3.01 to build ...
Don't know what issues you have building, it always built flawlessly for me,
and i
/var/cache/yum for future use. I put just the update RPMs in a
local repository, so I only download any package once. I can put the repository
on a DVD and upgrade from it if I want, after installing a new machine with no
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Jehan Procaccia wrote:
Le 04/09/2013 17:08, Bill Davidsen a écrit :
Jehan PROCACCIA wrote:
hello,
I've got hundred of fedora19 station installed on computer lab for our
students.
these are self service multi-user stations, users needs to restart the station
whenever they want to
unfortu
able to put it in rc.local
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edup procedure is worthless on many machines.Posts saying things
like "worked for me, be patient, finished in about 30 hours" confirm that.
...Jeff
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there are
apps which are useful. Bless kvm.
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styled release.
which has *nothing* to do with "the darker side of the Internet"
it's a matter of expierience and qualification
There are a lot of people who don't want "experience and qualifications," they
want to use the computer. I really find Mint is the idea
ess anywhere in linux.
Gnome 3 is working hard to catch up, but even it has a
long way to go before reaching the depth that unity
has sunk to.
GNOME3 is a badly written video game, hard to play, little benefit to
experience, and no treasure anywhere.
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at change, reenabling the ecdsa-sha2-nistp521 curves, in fact fixes
the problem, since my ECDSA key is actually a 521 bit key.
Policy to use those, or are you in the "more secure" camp on curves vs. legacy
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which changes every time the machine gets
shuffled a bit.
Is there a better way than fedup, and why is it so slow?
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cfg file after each time a kernel is updated, to get it to work
sensibly.
Why in hell is there no "default" line saying what you want, or is there
somewhere and I haven't stumbled on it because a kernel update doesn't set that?
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NOTE: an early draft of this question was sent somehow, ignore it
I have has miserable luck with fedup, is there a better way, anything? I
really don't want to leave this machine down for days, and the 18->19 on
a test machine to
Suvayu Ali wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 07:05:17PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Is there a better way than fedup, and why is it so slow?
The last few upgrades, I went by the yum method. Despite all the
warnings on the wiki, this seems to be the smoothest of all upgrade
methods I have tried
Joe Zeff wrote:
On 11/22/2013 04:29 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
This is a VERY good point which I had overlooked, the hardware
requirements of GNOME are much higher that XFCE (and I believe MATE) and
represent choice which is very likely to frustrate potential converts.
That's especially
XFCE will install, that's all we need.
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GNOME, or install from command line. And there should be a WARNING at install
time if the video hardware is questionable, suggesting installing another DE first.
Once you can see the screen you can take it from there, experience is needed
otherwise. I still find about 40-60% of my machines us
27;t find where to install or configure alternate boot animations. Can
someone point me to the info, or even give me a search string which will find it
in either google or fedora wiki?
Q2: is there a way to make fedora-upgrade use an iso (I did a hack so I could
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fixes the issue.
Yes, I know, not in all cases...
Stuff you may want to use more often:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/
-> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/nx-libs
http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/nx-libs
-> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.
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you never see the problem.My problem was that I do have IPv6, but got it by
getting a cheap (ie. slow) connection from a 2nd ISP. So yum uses IPv6 at 1Mbit
instead of IPv4 at 20Mbit. Really slow updates until I shut down IPv6 during
upgrades.
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me up with boot and root?
Yes, I tried the obvious, having someone bring up the machine, unmount /home,
and then commenting out the /home in /etc/fstab (tried noauto first). Didn't
help. Yes I did it in the boot fstab too. More didn't help.
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I have a bunch of machines I would like to upgrade, and I was hoping to
just run an upgrade on them, booting from the DVD, selecting "upgrade"
and going on as usual on upgrade from media. Unfortunately I get another
screen or so forward and am told that an acti
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 03/11/2012 08:52 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
is there some way to tell LUKS to skip mounting /home and just come up
with boot and root?
Yes, I tried the obvious, having someone bring up the machine, unmount
/home, and then commenting out the /home in /etc/fstab
like:
cd {my_image_base_dir}
find . -type f -exec md5sum "{}" \; |
(cd {mounted_cd_you_burned} && md5sum -c - | tee ful_list.md5 |
grep -v OK)
That will print anything other than OK message.
Note: I typed this in, read what you type!
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VM, having
issues with lack of time to upgrade the rest of my machines, I see
suspend is still broken WRT getting the network back up in some
functional way, no surprise, I don't even bother to report it any more,
but shutdown really should work.
Why is it this way?
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Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 16:24 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
In both GNOME (fallback mode) and xfce, if I click the shutdown entry in
the user drop down, I get a pop-up asking if I really mean it. WHile I'd
like to eliminate that step, if I click SHUTDOWN again I get a l
can force traffics to
a given NIC by source IP and stuff like that.
However, you can probably control most of the traffic just by setting
the routing so that the cheapest (using "metric") route is via the
preferred NIC. If that gives satisfactory separation it's simpler to
under
the rest of what was set by default.
NOTE: my PATH *never* includes "." to prevent accidental running of
something I never intended. The PATH setting is called from .bashrc,
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The only reason I can see is to allow the ip6tables firewall stuff to
work rather than take unknown protocol processing paths. Download the
kernel source and rebuild if it really bugs you on memory.
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ring up another system I can't
remember if the P4 has PAE or not, do know that about yours before
trying the install.
Remember, a large part of trouble-shooting is going down one blind
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k. The state of video since GNOME3 is so fragile that I take what I
can get working. The whole concept of requiring acceleration when the
free drivers don't work is "mystery think" to me.
Does anyone know if F17 is going to address this problem
Greg
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there something simple to make that happen?
All I need is some doc so I can be sure I've done things right, as
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3s and imap from external.
If you are running sendmail you will have to tell it to accept from external as
well. The file is in /etc/mail, edit sendmail.cf to remove the loopback only
assignment, then make the new config and restart sendmail.
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machines.
FC13, GNOME2 (hasn't changed in ages, it's a host for five VMs
(i7-950+24GB RAM). Really annoying, can anyone suggest a cause?
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James Wilkinson wrote:
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This is a really odd one, I have a keyboard and PS/2 mouse on a KVM
switch, accessing four Linux system. All of a sudden the mouse
sensitivity changed to "dead slow" on one machine. I checked the
settings in preferences, and tried (a) anoth
ne of _my_
problems, the eSATA box works with some boxen and not other, so I will
try all states of power on, off, cable connected, and see what it
yields. I thought the cheap ATOM system just had an unsupported chip for
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install from DVD?
And as a side question, why would anyone create a DVD for net install,
when there is a small ISO image which does that?
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I have downloaded ISO images with both ftp and torrent, and the 3.3GB
DVD image I get is always a network install version, which stops at the
start of the install process and tells me I need an active network
connection to install from that media. Where can I get the real
ency and in lieu of
source code, how about a man page?
Have to agree, complexity for no benefit. So what if the boot time is a
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ot.
From my side, I have a "no longer supported" SW product that
licenses itself against the MAC address of ETH0. Yep, ETH0 and not
any other name.
Put a symlink in?
To what? If a program does "ifconfig eth0" where do I put a symlink to
make that return p57p3 results?
7;s rather then the network
and I assume a netbook can boot from a USB device.
Thanks
Chris Kottaridis
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Rick Stevens wrote:
On 04/05/2012 11:45 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
I have downloaded ISO images with both ftp and torrent, and the 3.3GB
DVD image I get is always a network install version, which stops at the
start of the install process and tells me I need an active network
Bill Davidsen wrote:
In case it would help, I took a picture of the screen where it hangs.
This is at the "Install boor record to disk" screen, where it's
supposedly going to initialize the new disk drive.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/103772658613998278564/posts/JusLH8M3pey
If
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Bill Davidsen writes:
I don't get to ask to install anything, I get a pop-up on the screen
which says the install needs an active network connection, and won't
proceed without it.
Unless I'm losing my mind completely, I'm fairly certain that I updat
ion but it's not
done by vote. So I guess you live with it or fix it on your machines. I fix
things, many people do, I don't think any deiscussion here is likely to be more
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era would show if
it were USB connected, lsusb is good about providing vendor code and such when
it doesn't know what the device is.
Three thoughts:
1 - are you sure it's USB connected?
2 - does it have a "privacy shutter" you can slide over the lens? That might
take it off the b
e fstab swap entry with the new UUID and now swapon -a turns the
swap on and, yay! there is my hibernate button.
I was about to tell you that "mkswap" allows you to set the UUID and warn you to
avoid two swaps with the same UUID created thusly, but you have a solution.
Two ways to lo
ut:' prompt. That prompt is new to me so I've
not really messed with it.
I can say that the previous kernels boot just fine (3.3.0-8) and I have no
trouble with them. Any ideas on what I can look at? Maybe file a bug report?
I would try the current kernel first, 3.3.1-5, although I did not
modifications into the
.rpmnew file.
Hope this helps,
It's definitely the better way to go from a maintenance standpoint, thank you.
(yes, I hacked the master, too).
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o the VM. I'm not sure this is good for
anything, but it's a way to allow VNC access to machines which can't provide
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You have to diddle the firewall to get nfs3 to work IIRC.
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Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 23.04.2012 01:02, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
udevd[187]: timeout '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda3'
udevd[187]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda3' [332]
udevd[187]: timeout: killing '/sbin/blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda3' [332]
ud
r that's what this link[1] said :)
Thanks for finding that obscure reference. Pity it isn't in the man page where
mere mortals could find it. :-(
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, right?
)
Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
washing machine? Why not?
Before the advent of soap/detergent what was used as a cleaning
component? How did a Roman keep their toga fresh and clean? :-)
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and I assume that's nonsense, there's just some feature which is
disabled to protect the innocent and not clearly documented so people
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dried, the BIOS involved is important, the distribution, etc.
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udes, it's just a name.
Please, focus on technical.
And how pray are you going to tip a spherical cow ?
Ruins all the fun 8)
It's only spherical in three dimensions.
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like a joke, or at least childish. This is why I suggested, earlier, that the
code name for F18 be a celebration of life. L'chiam!
Release the beta on Dec 21 and name it "Inca Rebuttal"
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next versions of Fedora?
Fedora is stuck on cows, clearly a Spherical Cow is a subset of Beefy Miracle, I
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krootkit, which has been reported
repeatedly and ignored repeatedly. It treats the linked /sbin/init as
suspicious because some rootkits did exactly that.
Nothing encourages disregarding warnings like a daily false alarm. It's a shame,
but I but lots of people ignore or disable it because of tha
, should I call the rpm/program something else?
Such as fvwm-patched?
Many thanks again!
Ranjan
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power supply and will do either USB or eSATA if you have it (and come with the
cables).
HTH
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To
simple window manager, so that if
your video hardware breaks due to use of a vendor driver or just a bug in a
kernel driver you will still be functional.
And hint about gnome-shell, everything is better with a touch of cinnamon, YMMV.
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dmap process is running on host and
client, remounts from other clients work, etc, etc.
Anyone have a clue?
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We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have
taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if
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Ed Greshko wrote:
On 05/09/2012 10:26 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
I get a message "rpc.idmapd appears not to be running" when it is running, and
I'm
using the same setup I have on my other clients from FC9 to fc17, including both
32/64 bit RHEL. Checked DNS to be sure the IP revers
Joe Zeff wrote:
On 05/08/2012 10:25 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Did you by any chance have a 3rd party (aka working) video driver
installed, such as from another repo like rpmfusion? If so, there may
have been an updated kernel in your "failed update" and your
kmod-whatever is unable
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