Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Mike Wright wrote: > Alan Evans wrote: >> This is an on-again-off-again kind of problem. It usually hits me when >> it is least convenient, like when I only have shell access to the >> machine. Example: >> >> [a...@agena ~]$ cd /me

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > Are you sure it is a space? how about pressing a after typing in > 'My' (without the quotes)? Yes. It is certainly a space. Auto-completion is how I arrived at the first example. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Michael Hannon wrote: > Hi, Alan.  Are you sure that the spaces are causing the error?  I.e., if the > directory were actually named: > >    Media My Book > > you'd get the behavior you describe.  I don't usually use spaces in file > names, but I've never had a p

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Fennix wrote: > I made the directory My Book and tested before replying and it worked here. > You can also try cd /media/My* which also should work. I believe you. And like I said, it usually works for me. But sometimes bash gets in a mood and won't let me express

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/10/2010 11:56 AM, Alan Evans wrote: > >  Obvious question - could it be a file not a directory (perhaps it is > not mounted yet for example) > >  ... try ls -lZ instead (to check permissions whlie you're a

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Jeff Voskamp wrote: > > Try > cd /media > ls -bl > > and send us the results. Ok: [a...@agena ~]$ cd /media [a...@agena media]$ ls -bl total 4 drwx--. 1 alan alan 4096 2010-05-10 08:12 My\ Book -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames? [SOLVED]

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Then try putting the cd command in single quotes as well - it may be > some alias that isn't dealing correctly with escaped args. Somebody just sent me a private reply along these same lines. Here is my reply to him (I thought I was replying t

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Mark Knoop wrote: > At 09:09 on 10 May 2010, Alan Evans wrote: >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Jeff Voskamp >> wrote: >> > >> > Try >> > cd /media >> > ls -bl >> > >> > and send us the re

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > Try looking at the kernel messages (dmesg).  I have seen media errors, > especially on auto-mounted external devices like this, give similar > results. > > Does "mount" show the correct device mounted there? > > Is it possibly some Unicode spac

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames? [SOLVED]

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Alan Evans said: >> cd () >> { >>        builtin cd $1 || return >>        [[ -f ./.autorun ]] && . ./.autorun >> } > > Any shell functions should properly quote their argument

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Alan Evans wrote: > (I always find it mildly humorous when people are cocksure while being > totally wrong.) Not that I could ever be accused of doing this, of course! ;) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscr

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames? [SOLVED]

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Ha, you didn't know cd has options? ;-) Well, you're probably right about that. And after looking at the man page, I'm not sure it matters that I didn't know. :) Really, though, the error had nothing to do with not knowing about options and

Re: f13 torrents?

2010-05-25 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I've looked at all the versions of the "get fedora 13" pages > I can find, and perhaps I am just blind, but I can't find any > pointer to http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ on any of the > download pages, even the one that claims to be "all the

Re: F13 upgrades post here, please.

2010-05-25 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I'd love to hear about F13 upgrade experiences.  Once the issues are > worked out I'll be upgrading from F12. Do you want all the issues listed conveniently to you in a single thread? I, for one, would prefer that separate upgrade issues be in

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Alan Evans
2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : > The links you referenced were removed quite explicitly in the design. > The assumption was that if someone understands how to use bittorrent, > jigdo, and mirror lists, they are more than capable of making use of a > search engine to find them. I hope that this thread is

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Alan Evans
2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:22 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: >> 2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : >> > The links you referenced were removed quite explicitly in the design. >> > The assumption was that if someone understands how to use bittorrent, >> &g

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Alan Evans
2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : >> That would have at least kept me (and probably many others) from >> scanning the page over and over again for ten minutes looking for what >> I just knew must be there. > > No, it wouldn't. Yes, it would. I would have found the link that I was expecting to be on the pag

preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Alan Evans
Preupgrade is complaining that I don't have enough space in /boot/upgrade. How much space is needed? Preupgrade is not telling me. It *did* tell me that I could continue if I had a wired network connection. I do have, so I continued; and then after finally downloading all the packages (much time) a

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Colin J Thomson wrote: > FYI, preupgrade does work with the default 200meg  /boot partition, I did it > here on this small raid system, no LVM all ext4, F12 > F13.. More info here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573451 > > NOTE.. > I guess your mil

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-29 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: > It told me the same thing. At that point, I booted from a live CD, > installed gparted and resized the boot partition to take 500M (took > space from swap, which was 2G). Then preupgrade succeeded perfectly and > I'm running F13 right now.

Re: preupgrade: not enough space again

2010-05-30 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > I do have, so I continued; and then after finally >>> downloading all the packages (much time) and rebooting it apparently >>> couldn't find the driver for my network card. Bother. > > What network card? The one on my motherboard. Lspci tells

Re: [Fedora] 'userdel' irony -- what do you say ?

2010-05-31 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > 1rst pass: The user has been deleted. No bug. > 2nd pass : There is no more user to delete. What to expect? But the operation wasn't atomic, since userdel was asked to delete the home directory on the 1st pass. It reported that it

Re: Improving the list climate [was Re: Fwd: Fedora Weekly News 228]

2010-06-03 Thread Alan Evans
2010/6/3 Máirín Duffy : > Do we want new users to witness this kind of behavior? They are directed > towards this list right now via a number of different pointers. My team > is planning to redesign the Fedora website for Fedora 14, and I'm not > sure we can in good conscience continue to point new

Re: Fwd: Fedora Weekly News 228

2010-06-03 Thread Alan Evans
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Craig White wrote: > like Gene you have assumed that Máirín is a woman and I > can't imagine any greater testimony to your arrogance and insensitivity > of others but keep trying. Not that I think that sex has any substantive relevance at all here, but I'm pretty s

Redirecting mail in Thunderbird

2010-06-11 Thread Alan Evans
Is there no plugin to add mail redirection to the current Thunderbird? I used to use the Mail Redirect plugin in version 2, but I've searched in vain for a similar plugin that's compatible with 3.0. So either my search method is wanting or there's really nobody doing redirection any more from their

Re: Redirecting mail in Thunderbird

2010-06-11 Thread Alan Evans
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Rick Barnes wrote: > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=thunderbird+3+plugin+redirect&l=1 > > Its about half way down the page. Thanks. Something about exactly what I asked Google combined with assumptions that are hard to mentally overcome prevented me from seeing that even in

Re: Status of SSDs under Fedora ?

2010-06-11 Thread Alan Evans
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> * if you don't much care for the logs in /var/log, turn them off or >> redirect to a ram drive -- reduces number of writes > > With the MTBF of the SSDs today, this is unnecessary. For me, it wasn't MTBF that was a concern so much as w

F13 - can't detect network printer

2010-06-16 Thread Alan Evans
The hard drive on my F12 system recently failed, and I decided it was easiest to simply start from scratch. So what I'm dealing with now is a clean install of F13 from DVD, updated. The printer in our office is shared from a well-established Windows machine. It is the same machine that was used whe

Re: F13 - can't detect network printer

2010-06-16 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > Did you remember to poke a hole in your firewall? Sorry, forgot to mention: Firewall is disabled. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/list

Re: F13 - can't detect network printer

2010-06-16 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: > It didn't find any SMB shares there.  Did you apply the package updates > first?  I ask because an updated F-13 system-config-printer package can > adjust the firewall appropriately for you. The system is fully updated. FIrewall is disabled. >

Re: F13 - can't detect network printer [SOLVED]

2010-06-16 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 08:21 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: >> "Windows Printer via SAMBA" is not on the list of options. > > Perhaps that's the problem.  Install the 'samba-client' package and try > ag

Re: Another funny update?

2010-06-23 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > I'm not attacking you, I'm stating a very plain fact. If RPMfusion says > "Sure, we'll help you move from Nouveau to NIVDIA" and, when people want to > come back to Nouveau, Nouveau developers answer "Ah, you fucked up your > system? Good luck!

Background image on dual screen?

2010-03-01 Thread Alan Evans
I have two monitors an my background image is exactly the size of both combined. I used to be able to display this background image across both screens as if they were a single display. I think I chose "Tiled" to make this happen, but I'm not sure it was always that way. Anyway, after an update a

Re: Background image on dual screen?

2010-03-02 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Alan Evans wrote: > I have two monitors an my background image is exactly the size of both > combined. I used to be able to display this background image across > both screens as if they were a single display. I think I chose "Tiled" > to mak

Re: Background image on dual screen?

2010-03-02 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > There is a bug[1] for this and there is a fix available, which was > accidentally unpushed last week. It should be going back out into > updates-testing soon. Hurray! Waiting expectantly for the update to come soon... -- users mailing

Re: Clamav

2010-04-20 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > "Bugfix (by a non-Albanian): FIRST send this mail to everyone you know, and > AFTER THAT delete all the files on the disk." See. Open source works! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: [WAY WAY OT] Ubuntu 10.04 and Nvidia driver

2010-05-03 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:14 AM, john wendel wrote: > I was told that I needed to restart the system > to use the new driver. IT'S A LIVE CD FOLKS! Restarting of course wiped > out the new driver download. That is funny. But if it were a LiveUSB instead of a LiveCD then there could be persistent

What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
This is an on-again-off-again kind of problem. It usually hits me when it is least convenient, like when I only have shell access to the machine. Example: [a...@agena ~]$ cd /media/My\ Book/ bash: cd: /media/My: No such file or directory [a...@agena ~]$ cd "/media/My Book/" bash: cd: /media/My: No

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:29 AM, jack wallen wrote: >> This is an on-again-off-again kind of problem. It usually hits me when >> it is least convenient, like when I only have shell access to the >> machine. Example: >> >> [a...@agena ~]$ cd /media/My\ Book/ >> bash: cd: /media/My: No such file or

Re: What's up with bash shell and spaces in filenames?

2010-05-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Fennix wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alan Evans wrote: >> >> This is an on-again-off-again kind of problem. It usually hits me when >> it is least convenient, like when I only have shell access to the >> machine. Exampl

F15 live won't boot?

2011-06-07 Thread Alan Evans
I just downloaded (by bittorrent) the F15 x86_64 Live CD image, and made a Live USB stick with LiveUSB Creator. When Trying to boot this on my Samsung RC512 laptop, the boot process halts, displaying: Dropping to debug shell. sh: can't access tty: job control turned off dracut:/# What does it mea

Re: F15 live won't boot?

2011-06-07 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> I just downloaded (by bittorrent) the F15 x86_64 Live CD image, and >> made a Live USB stick with LiveUSB Creator. > > I found on one occasion that the Fedora LiveUSB Creator failed, > but livecd-iso-to-disk (in the livecd-tools package) wor

Re: Upgraded F14 -> F15, now how do I use this?

2011-06-08 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Solution: read the extensive discussions on the list archives over the > past couple of weeks. *That* sounds like an efficient migration strategy! > Use a different desktop, such as KDE, which works as before. If the switch from GNOME

Re: Upgraded F14 -> F15, now how do I use this?

2011-06-08 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > > Gnome 3 is still a work in progress, so as Fedora > users interested in being on the leading edge, it behooves > us to try the new stuff and provide constructive and useful > feedback feedback about how it's going for us. >From the standpoin

Re: Upgraded F14 -> F15, now how do I use this?

2011-06-08 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: >> Couldn't the developers have continued packaging GNOME 2 for at least >> *one* release cycle so I could seriously try the new stuff but still >> fall back to the old stuff when the new was confusing or troublesome? >> Then I could

Re: Upgraded F14 -> F15, now how do I use this?

2011-06-08 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 08:51 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> > Solution: read the extensive discussions on the list archives over the >> > past

Re: Adieu, Fedora

2011-06-13 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM, David wrote: >> I disagree. He makes a very valid point. New installs of Windows always >> come up with a tutorial and "helper" app. I have never seen anything like >> that on Linux > Really? Seriously? > > What "New installs of Windows" of Windows are you referrin

Re: About Fedora bugs

2011-06-29 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > But if one is an optimist one can take the position that having the bug > fixed if you don't report it is an even rarer event. Perhaps, but I'm not certain that statistics would back that up. I, too, have reported many things and have only ra

Can't run Software Update since upgrade

2011-07-13 Thread Alan Evans
I was a F13 holdout for a long time and finally caved to my machine constantly nagging me to upgrade. I did the upgrade (preupgrade) to F14, since I'm not ready to endure all the changes in F15. Still, I'm surprised at the number of things that subtly (and not-so-subtly) broke. I'll take it one thi

Re: dynamic memory automatically zero'd

2010-08-06 Thread Alan Evans
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote: > if you allocate memory, e.g. via malloc(3), then it is automatically set > to zero. This is actually a security feature quite common nowadays. I > would like to know when this feature has made it into Fedora or in RHEL. > Is this

Re: backing up shadow files with rsync?

2011-02-17 Thread Alan Evans
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Ironically, the NAS disk that failed was a 1TB Seagate unit. OTOH I've > (touch wood) had good results with WD Caviar Black disks. My experience also. I've had a few Seagate Barracuda disks die on me in just the last couple of months. I

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > You can´t have all of them present because file creation is > case-insensitive. Once A_Bottle_Of_Coke.txt is present, you cannot > create A_BOTTLE_OF_COKE.tXt. But you´re free to rename the existing > one to whatever capitalization you like :

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > As noted earlier, this is a distinct issue from whether yum and > rpm should be case-insensitive or have a case-insensitive option. > I'd be inclined to put warnings next to any case-insensitive > matches that were not also case-sensitive

Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?

2011-03-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I´m certainly tired of dictators that decree when a given discussion > has been going on "for far too long" and thinks his viewpoint is > "obviously correct", and that user-hostile messages to enforce proper > capitalization of a package na

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-21 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Oh yes, for a great example of how well gnome developers respond > to negative feedback check out this bugzilla: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541 > > Every once in a while I go back and re-read it just for the > entertainment

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-22 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > You seem to be missing the point that I'm talking about a home box where > you're the only person using it.  You set it up, you set the root > password and I see no reason not to use it (with su) for admin tasks. > Using sudo when you have the root

Re: Font in firefox; now uses tahoma?

2011-04-04 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: > I found one solution.  If you install the Stylish extension and the > Font Styler script from userstyles.org, you can specify a global font > family (and size) to use for all sites.  The script actually specifies > tahoma, which is exactly wh

Re: smartd reporting disk failing

2011-04-26 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > I can't believe that a drive would go bad > after a few months use.  I have other Seagate drives that have been in > use for years without any issues. You should be aware that there is a certain firmware revision of Seagate drives that has s

Re: smartd reporting disk failing

2011-04-26 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Alan Evans wrote: >>   I've not had any >> issues with the 7200.12 drives. > > Those models are just as bad. I went through three 7200.12 1TB drives in > a few months. Well that's not good to hear. F

Re: Why on the Earth GNOME Shell hiding Shutdown & Restart options

2011-05-26 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: > Looks like the most obstinate wing took it over in GNOME. The most obstinate wing has been driving GNOME for a very long time now. For a good laugh, just browse the gnome-devel archives. These are the same fine folks who foisted spacial

Re: FC14 good/bad news

2010-11-17 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > System is i7-950, 12GB RAM ... Not a killer machine, not a dog. Whatever you consider a "killer machine," I want one. -Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fed

usb auto mount when nobody is logged in?

2010-11-30 Thread Alan Evans
Is it possible to get gnome-volume-manager style auto mount/umount of USB drives in /media (or elsewhere) when nobody is logged into the desktop? The behavior when I'm logged in (auto-mounting in a directory named after the Volume Name, auto-unmounting, etc) is exactly what I would like when I'm no

Re: usb auto mount when nobody is logged in?

2010-11-30 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > if mount LABEL=BACKUP /backup > then >   ...do backup stuff... >   umount /backup > fi Wow. It's really that easy? I did have to redirect stderr to null since I'm not interested to getting mail from cron every time the drive is not plugged i

Printing directly on DVD

2011-01-07 Thread Alan Evans
Does anybody know how to print directly onto printable DVD media? I have a HP printer with a tray specifically for holding the media. I've tried everything I can think to actually print onto the disk. I've tried various-sized images in GIMP. The closest that I've come is having the printer complai

Re: Printing directly on DVD

2011-01-09 Thread Alan Evans
Hiisi wrote: > Alan Evans: >> I looked at glabels, but it seems very oriented toward printing onto >> labels and covers, with no templates for printing directly onto the >> DVD that I can find. > > I'm not answering your question because I don't have printer w

Re: Printing directly on DVD

2011-01-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Start here for the full story: > > http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/dvd/dvdprint/dvd-print.html > > or go directly to the final chapter: > > http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/dvd/dvdp/f13-success.html > > I make no guarantees,

Re: Printing directly on DVD

2011-01-17 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > I was starting to think it was my printer instead of glabels. No > matter what custom media size I set (all around the recommended 5in x > 5in) I ALWAYS get a media size error on my HP Photosmart C5580. Keep > in mind, I'm talking about the p

Re: Printing directly on DVD

2011-01-17 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> the little flat edge where the printer can't print > > That's actually an artifact of earlier versions of hplip. > With never versions I can print edge to edge on the entire > DVD, no flat spots. Newer version as in, "Newer than the latest F

Re: [Bulk] When did X go back to vt7?

2010-01-27 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> The X server traditionally ran on console vt7, till a while back someone >>> decided to move it to vt1. Now that I'm used to that, they've moved it >>> back to vt7 again. What's going on? >> >> If it is any use to you; I am using Xorg

Re: Acrobat fonts compared to Evince fonts

2014-05-14 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ >> > > Nice, but that means you have to do the build yourself. Is this in any > additional repos for Fedora? > > > As I understand it, licensing of the fonts prevents distribution that way. But I did

Can't rename files on KDE desktop.

2016-05-22 Thread Alan Evans
Or rather, I can rename them, but then I can't access them. If I create a new file on my F23 KDE desktop, I have no trouble accessing it. But if I rename it (right-click, Rename) then try clicking on it again after, I get an error dialog: "Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder /h

Re: Can't rename files on KDE desktop.

2016-05-23 Thread Alan Evans
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/23/16 07:07, Alan Evans wrote: > > > Or rather, I can rename them, but then I can't access them. > > > > If I create a new file on my F23 KDE desktop, I have no trouble > accessing it. But if I > >

Re: Can't rename files on KDE desktop.

2016-05-23 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Note that there is a list for KDE on Fedora, where you might get more > help with this. See: > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/k...@lists.fedoraproject.org I'll move this there, then. -- users mailing list users@lists.

Re: Why did they f*ck with GIMP?

2012-09-14 Thread Alan Evans
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM, fred smith wrote: > because there's been a LOT of whining from many people about the multi- > window interface. Allegedly it alienates Photoshop users, preventing > them from being willing to learn to use Gimp (and Linux, et al.) There seems to be a lot of hatred

Re: UEFI bootkit

2012-09-19 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Mike Wright wrote: > Great! MS shoots self in foot, others in head. We saw it coming :/ Shoots themselves in the foot? Limiting user choice sounds like it's working just the way they wanted. (Shooting everyone else in the head was a part of their plan.) -- user

opinions about partition sizes

2012-09-24 Thread Alan Evans
Hello, insightful users! I finally got a new desktop system for my home office, so I get to tinker with a completely fresh install. My query is how to best divide the storage. I will be installing the system on SSD, and I tentatively decided to put swap, /home, /var, and /tmp directories on a sep

Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary

2012-10-02 Thread Alan Evans
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > So final users would have had the best hardware running the best drivers > (open source too). > This is something which must not be permitted to happen. :-/ Not if it helps to sell the competitor's hardware. -- users mailing list users@list

Re: Games on Linux

2012-10-24 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I haven't done any programming in many years, and when I did, it wasn't > graphics programming. However, AIUI, most of it is DE agnostic. If so, > this shouldn't be a factor, but of course, ICBW. Probably agnostic to DE, but probably not to libr

Re: Games on Linux

2012-10-24 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> >> Apple is essentially single-platform and Microsoft at least tries to >> keep things backward-compatible. The Linux kernel devs seem, at least >> to the uninitiated, to have some kind of animosity to the very idea of >> ABI compatibility

Re: Games on Linux

2012-10-25 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 25.10.2012 01:09, schrieb Alan Evans: >> Apple is essentially single-platform and Microsoft at least tries to >> keep things backward-compatible. The Linux kernel devs seem, at least >> to the uninitiated, to have some

KMail trash folder?

2012-11-01 Thread Alan Evans
In KMail (F17), where is the "Trash" folder? If I select a message and then click the "Move to Trash" button, where is the message moved to? How do I recover accidentally deleted messages? On the sidebar, there is only "inbox," "outbox," and "sent-mail" listed under Local Folders. -Alan -- users

Re: Fedora 18, future isn't too good as it seems :-

2012-11-01 Thread Alan Evans
> > Also what do you think does more damage shipping broken > code or shipping late ? > The jokes almost write themselves: "And with Fedora, we get both!" *ducks* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Re: First f17 install -- on an ee701

2012-11-01 Thread Alan Evans
FWIW, my netbook switched to Fuduntu (fuduntu.org) some time ago and it seems like a really good fit, especially if you prefer GNOME 2. My workstations are still Fedora, and I'm awkwardly trying to learn KDE because I can't stomach GNOME 3. But Fuduntu seems to be designed with a mind toward the n

Re: KMail trash folder?

2012-11-02 Thread Alan Evans
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I use KMail accessing mail on an IMAP server. > In my case I can choose the Trash folder, > by going to KMail=>Settings=>Configure KMail=>Accounts, > then highlighting the appropriate account, > and clicking on Modify=>Advanced, > where there

Re: KMail trash folder?

2012-11-02 Thread Alan Evans
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Tim wrote: > > I've not used kmail for years, but it occurs to me that if you have > options to immediately delete mail, that it would be logical for the > trash folder to be removed if you have such a setting set. So, you > could look for such settings. > If the

Re: KMail trash folder?

2012-11-06 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Tim wrote: > There is the possibility that they don't use a trash folder. The > deleted mail staying in the same place that it was, to start off with, > simply flagged as deleted, and will actually be deleted on exit, or upon > a manual purge, or once a week, and p

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-27 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Right now I have a 300Mb /boot and 768Mb swap leaving ~2.7Gb for /. > Not sure why you would bother with separate /boot and / partitions on a system with only 4GB of mass storage. Just go with a single partition, and limit the installed

Re: finding out what wireless card -- asus ee701

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > How do I find out what wireless card is in a system, and thus which driver > to install? > lspci should tell you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproj

Re: finding out what wireless card -- asus ee701

2012-11-28 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Got that in a private mail. > Sorry. Wasn't intending that to be a private email. > It really does not say driver: ... > > But it looks like ath5k > > Now I have to figure out what rpm that comes from. I don't think you have the opti

Re: Partitioning between SDD and HDD

2012-12-21 Thread Alan Evans
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > You mean that all this hype over SSD's and they're LIMITED? I thought they > were supposed to be BETTER than the spinning drives of today? Exaclty how > are they better if they come "out-of-the-box" with limitations? Just > curious...

Re: reducing PDF file size in Fedora

2012-12-28 Thread Alan Evans
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > But I was wondering if there is an open source way to achieve the same > result in Fedora? > > I've used ghostscript to "optimize" some very large PDF documents. Maybe not exactly what you want, but it worked pretty well in my case, thus: gs

iptables is like alchemy

2013-01-02 Thread Alan Evans
This is really related to iptables, not I presume Fedora-specific. But I'm really hoping that somebody here will be able to school me on iptables, so I don't have to find and subscribe to some other list just to ask one question. I'm faced with the problem of needing to punch a hole in a firewall

Re: iptables is like alchemy

2013-01-02 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > > Please elaborate more. I'll try. > Why does 192.168.0.35 perform DNS queries > against the "external interface" of the firewall? Why not use the > internal ip? It doesn't. I'll try to be more specific: There are at least four machin

Re: iptables is like alchemy

2013-01-02 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Gary Hodder wrote: try this > ppp0=Internet connection > eth0=local area network connection > This will forward port 22 on the Internet to machine 192.168.0.2 port 22 > on local network. > > iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i ppp0 -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.2 --dport 22 -j > A

Re: iptables is like alchemy

2013-01-10 Thread Alan Evans
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > Ok, I've posted a similar setup I've used in the past that worked like a > charm. The script is the actual /etc/sysconfig/iptables. You'll notice > the syntax there is somehow different than when you manually create the > rules (or put in a

Re: KMail trash folder?

2013-01-23 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM, JPAM69 wrote: > I just found in another post a trick, which worked for me: > > just create the 'trash' folder, quit the kontact application, start it > again. kmail will automatically recognize the 'trash' directory, will > assign the trash icon to it and all remo

No sound for really old program

2013-08-14 Thread Alan Evans
Hi all! I gave my kid a netbook with Linux on it, and he noticed an ancient (circa RH6) game on one of my shelves. I told him that he could try to install it, figuring that there was no chance. But it worked! Except, no sound, which doesn't surprise me. Now I do remember years back that there was

Re: No sound for really old program

2013-08-21 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > > $ padsp $old-program > > Yes, that is exactly the thing I was trying to remember. Unfortunately, didn't work. Commandline complaint says it can't open the sound device nor connect to ESD. I have only the foggiest, indistinct recollection

What happened to my printer!?!

2013-09-09 Thread Alan Evans
Hello all, Sometime in the last couple of weeks, I lost my ability to print to the office printer. If I check (KDE) System Settings, the printer's status reads, "Paused - 'Unable to connect to CIFS host after (tried 3 times)'". Everybody else can still use this printer, and there have been no majo

Re: What happened to my printer!?!

2013-09-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Well, since it seems to be a Windows printer (e.g. a print spooler > running on a Windows box), did they change the authentication at that > end? Did you change the firewall settings on your box so that Samba > stuff is blocked now? > The auth

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