Joe Zeff writes:
On 1/8/22 9:03 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
One cute comment I saw that Xfce will have to be called 'E', as it is no
longer 'fc' and once it jettisons X, well...
Xfce hasn't stood for anything in particular for many years now.
Which is precisely the reason why xfce is a b
On 1/10/22 06:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Joe Zeff writes:
On 1/8/22 9:03 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
One cute comment I saw that Xfce will have to be called 'E', as it
is no longer 'fc' and once it jettisons X, well...
Xfce hasn't stood for anything in particular for many years now.
Wh
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 07:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Joe Zeff writes:
>
> > On 1/8/22 9:03 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >>
> >> One cute comment I saw that Xfce will have to be called 'E', as it is
> no
> >> longer 'fc' and once it jettisons X, well...
> >
> > Xfce hasn't stood for anything in
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:01:22 -0400
George N. White III wrote:
> Linux developers have to have a target class of users in mind
Yes, a completely imaginary class of users they invent in their
head to justify whatever insanity they decide they want to implement,
so when people object they can say, "
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 15:37:19 -0600 (CST)
Michael Hennebry wrote:
> 'Tis just a timer I wrote in java/swing several years ago.
> Click on a number and that is the number
> of minutes from which it will count down.
You could always just use clocks, the timer tab. Though you are
probably hot on the
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 15:55:06 -0500
Jonathan Billings wrote:
> EFI boot entries are built based on the UUID of the volume and then a
> path to the EFI executable, so you would just need to create another
> EFI entry, either for a different EFI volume with a standard path or
> the same EFI volume wi
On 1/10/22 09:31, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:01:22 -0400
George N. White III wrote:
Linux developers have to have a target class of users in mind
Yes, a completely imaginary class of users they invent in their
head to justify whatever insanity they decide they want to implemen
On 1/10/22 06:31, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:01:22 -0400
George N. White III wrote:
Linux developers have to have a target class of users in mind
Yes, a completely imaginary class of users they invent in their
head to justify whatever insanity they decide they want to implement
On 1/10/22 16:16, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 1/10/22 06:31, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 10:01:22 -0400
George N. White III wrote:
Linux developers have to have a target class of users in mind
Yes, a completely imaginary class of users they invent in their
head to justify whatever ins
On 1/10/22 13:58, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
And in all fairness, I jettisoned Gnome after some time with v3 and how
slow it was making my old systems. I had started working with Xfce on
Fedora-arm on 32bit Allwinner chips. So I made the switch on my main
notebook and have not even looked at Gno
George N. White III writes:
I don't think that is a realistic description of the effort that goes into DE
designs.
Linux developers have to have a target class of users in mind, and also try
to make it easy for users to migrate from Apple and Microsoft DE's.
I agree. Now, it would be inter
Robert Moskowitz writes:
https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap
Though I was told on the Xfce user list that there is no current work on
this roadmap.
I am not surprised. It's hard for me to come up with a value-added benefit
from Wayland that's visible to the end user. Oh, I'm sure
Robert Moskowitz writes:
I did not like the slowness and complexity of Gnome3 and have no idea which
way it has gone since those first Fedora versions that used it. At times I
complain about Xfce, but most are minor or I have to learn a new tweak.
I found the Xfce community to be very frie
On 1/10/22 14:48, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
George N. White III writes:
I don't think that is a realistic description of the effort that goes
into DE designs.
Linux developers have to have a target class of users in mind, and
also try
to make it easy for users to migrate from Apple and Microso
Samuel Sieb writes:
I'm going to add a disclaimer: I haven't looked into the state of the Gnome
world in a number of years. Perhaps things have moved closer to the pre-
Gnome 3 state. But I doubt it. The day job uses Ubuntu, and a year ago I was
due for a new laptop, so they shipped me a bra
On 1/10/22 15:50, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Samuel Sieb writes:
I'm going to add a disclaimer: I haven't looked into the state of the
Gnome world in a number of years. Perhaps things have moved closer to
the pre-Gnome 3 state. But I doubt it. The day job uses Ubuntu, and a
year ago I was due for
On 1/10/22 18:50, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Samuel Sieb writes:
I'm going to add a disclaimer: I haven't looked into the state of
the Gnome world in a number of years. Perhaps things have moved
closer to the pre-Gnome 3 state. But I doubt it. The day job uses
Ubuntu, and a year ago I was due f
Samuel Sieb writes:
On 1/10/22 15:50, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Oh, and how would a user discover what those useful keyboard shortcuts are?
At this point, the basic UI elements are instinctively known to everyone.
Everyone knows what an icon does, how menus look like, etc…
Does a majority pe
On 1/10/22 17:38, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Someone who's already used traditional desktop environments, with
desktop shortcut icons, a taskbar (on top or the bottom), with something
that looks like a "Start" menu, a tray, a pager, and a few other
familiar UI icons – someone like that should be ab
On Mon, 2022-01-10 at 14:07 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> Gnome really isn't intended for those systems anyway. Gnome-shell
> requires a reasonable 3d-capable video card to run well. I have a
> bunch of old P4 computers in a school for students to use. I set
> them up with Mate which works great
Sam Varshavchik:
>> Someone who's already used traditional desktop environments, with
>> desktop shortcut icons, a taskbar (on top or the bottom), with
>> something that looks like a "Start" menu, a tray, a pager, and a
>> few other familiar UI icons – someone like that should be able to
>> hit the
On 1/10/22 22:10, Tim via users wrote:
On Mon, 2022-01-10 at 14:07 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Gnome really isn't intended for those systems anyway. Gnome-shell
requires a reasonable 3d-capable video card to run well. I have a
bunch of old P4 computers in a school for students to use. I set
t
On 1/10/22 22:19, Tim via users wrote:
Back to Gnome, I'd like to know just who thought redesigning the
interface of a desktop computer to use the design of a touchscreen
device, was a good idea. Very few desktop systems have touchscreens.
Page after page of virtually randomly assorted icons (
On 1/10/22 19:10, Tim via users wrote:
On Mon, 2022-01-10 at 14:07 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Gnome really isn't intended for those systems anyway. Gnome-shell
requires a reasonable 3d-capable video card to run well. I have a
bunch of old P4 computers in a school for students to use. I set
the
On 1/10/22 19:19, Tim via users wrote:
Sam Varshavchik:
Someone who's already used traditional desktop environments, with
desktop shortcut icons, a taskbar (on top or the bottom), with
something that looks like a "Start" menu, a tray, a pager, and a
few other familiar UI icons – someone like tha
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