Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/5/20 11:56 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 11:13 AM Chris Murphy > wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SwapOnZRAM#Detailed_Description Let me

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Andras Simon
2020-12-06 8:51 UTC+01:00, Sreyan Chakravarty : > On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 10:33 AM Tim via users > > wrote: > >> On Sat, 2020-12-05 at 17:45 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >> > There definitely is no free lunch with swap-on-zram, but it helps >> > quite a lot for most workloads. >> >> I'm curious how d

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020, 2:00 pm Andras Simon, wrote: > > Don't think of it as swap. It's in-place compression of memory. > Thank you. Sir I rarely get such short concise and eloquent answers. I really wish naming was easier in computer science. In place memory compression is exactly what the zram

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:29 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > Are you actually using the swap? If you aren't, or only very little, > then you aren't going to notice anything. It will only use RAM if > you're swapping out pages. > > Well I do have a lot of open tabs in chrome and firefox for testing. I ha

CUPS-PDF issue.

2020-12-06 Thread Erik P. Olsen
I am trying to print to pdf using CUPS-PDF. The output is supposed to go to member files in /var/spool/ but the created members are all empty. I am apparently missing some configuration settings but can't find what it may be. Appreciate any pointers to how I can fix it. -- Erik P. Olsen - Copen

Re: CUPS-PDF issue.

2020-12-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/12/2020 18:58, Erik P. Olsen wrote: I am trying to print to pdf using CUPS-PDF. The output is supposed to go to member files in/var/spool/ but the created members are all empty. I am apparently missing some configuration settings but can't find what it may be. Appreciate any pointers to h

Re: mysterious/suspicious internet activity.

2020-12-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-12-05 at 15:46 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/5/20 2:53 PM, home user wrote: > > On 12/4/20 10:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > I pretty much think this topic has been totally addressed and feel > > > there really is no need to go about > > > tilting at windmills. > > > > Strange ex

Re: KDE Startx -

2020-12-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-12-06 at 08:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/12/2020 08:14, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > I usually run XFCE wit startx" at boot. I dnf group installed KDE but I > > find that it does not start with the same start command. Will this work? If > > so, what is the proper command in Fedora-3

Re: KDE Startx -

2020-12-06 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-12-06 06:25, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: You want to start the KDE desktop from the command line? Have you tried. startkde or startplasma-x11 Alternatively (and perhaps better for most people), is to install SDDM and start KDE directly from the login manager. poc . None of tho

Re: KDE Startx -

2020-12-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-12-06 at 08:15 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > On 2020-12-06 06:25, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > You want to start the KDE desktop from the command line? > > > > > > Have you tried. > > > > > > startkde > > > > > > or > > > > > > startplasma-x11 > > Alternatively (and perhap

Re: KDE Startx -

2020-12-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/12/2020 21:15, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2020-12-06 06:25, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: You want to start the KDE desktop from the command line? Have you tried. startkde or startplasma-x11 Alternatively (and perhaps better for most people), is to install SDDM and start KDE directly fr

Re: CUPS-PDF issue.

2020-12-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/12/2020 20:09, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 2020-12-06 at 19:07:54 Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/12/2020 18:58, Erik P. Olsen wrote: I am trying to print to pdf using CUPS-PDF. The output is supposed to go to member files in/var/spool/ but the created members are all empty. I am apparently missing

Re: CUPS-PDF issue.

2020-12-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 19:07:54 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > So, the output ends up in ~/Desktop on my system. Me too. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Co

Re: KDE Startx -

2020-12-06 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-12-06 08:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Why doesn't it work (i.e. what actually happens)? Did you reboot after installing SDDM? You may want to ask on the Fedora KDE list. poc _ Presently after another reboot, perhaps the tenth this morning, I got a screen full of tiny text, at le

merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Amadeus WM via users
I have a disk that looks like this: [root@alpha ~]# /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 930.39 GiB, 998999326720 bytes, 1951170560 sectors Disk model: VIRTUAL DISK Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 byt

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 12/6/20 1:07 PM, Amadeus WM via users wrote: > Or, maybe gparted? I can delete sda1, then expand sda2 to the beginning > of the disk. Would that work? Hi, No, you can't. You can only expand forward; not backward (to the beginning as you say). For example, you could delete sda2 and expand sda

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Amadeus WM via users
Hmmm, that's a bummer! I guess that would work too, except I have far more and more important data on sda2, so if that gets messed up, I'm screwed. On Sun, 06 Dec 2020 13:18:15 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > On 12/6/20 1:07 PM, Amadeus WM via users wrote: >> Or, maybe gparted? I can delete s

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Qiyu Yan
Sreyan Chakravarty 于 2020年12月6日周日 下午6:23写道: > On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:29 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> Are you actually using the swap? If you aren't, or only very little, >> then you aren't going to notice anything. It will only use RAM if >> you're swapping out pages. >> >> > Well I do have a

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Dec 06, 2020 at 05:38:56PM -, Amadeus WM via users wrote: > I guess that would work too, except I have far more and more important > data on sda2, so if that gets messed up, I'm screwed. O, this statement makes me concerned. That drive could fail at any minute. The absolute best t

F33 no longer notices SD card on iogear hub

2020-12-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
After going from Centos 7 to F33, I can no longer use the SD card port on my iogear multi-thing hub. GUH287. What gives? How do I fix it? -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Sorry but your password must contain an uppercase letter, a number, a haiku, a gang sign, a heiroglyph, and the bl

Re: F33 no longer notices SD card on iogear hub

2020-12-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020, Michael Hennebry wrote: After going from Centos 7 to F33, I can no longer use the SD card port on my iogear multi-thing hub. GUH287. What gives? How do I fix it? In case I was not clear: The SD card seems invisible. No entry under /dev or a subdirectory. Manual mounting see

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Amadeus WM via users
On Sun, 06 Dec 2020 13:18:15 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > On 12/6/20 1:07 PM, Amadeus WM via users wrote: >> Or, maybe gparted? I can delete sda1, then expand sda2 to the beginning >> of the disk. Would that work? > > Hi, > > No, you can't. You can only expand forward; not backward (to the > b

Re: F33 no longer notices SD card on iogear hub

2020-12-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 12:48:11 -0600 (CST) Michael Hennebry wrote: > After going from Centos 7 to F33, > I can no longer use the SD card port on my iogear multi-thing hub. > GUH287. > What gives? > How do I fix it? My observation over decades of computer use is that hardware deliberately waits till

Re: F33 no longer notices SD card on iogear hub

2020-12-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 12:48:11 -0600 (CST) Michael Hennebry wrote: After going from Centos 7 to F33, I can no longer use the SD card port on my iogear multi-thing hub. GUH287. What gives? How do I fix it? My observation over decades of computer use is that

Re: mysterious/suspicious internet activity.

2020-12-06 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 06:00, Ed Greshko wrote: > [...] I can't think of anyone that would go through the > trouble of unpacking pcap output to find IP addresses they could attack. > They either > farm IP addresses from emails, dns queries, or just plain find blocks of > IP addresses > to attack.

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 12:35 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 3:37 AM Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> Well, which "echo" command fails? >> >> Do these exist? >> >> /sys/power/disk >> /sys/power/state > > > $ ll /sys/power/disk > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 4096 Dec 6 12:53 /sys/powe

Re: F33 no longer notices SD card on iogear hub

2020-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/6/20 10:48 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: After going from Centos 7 to F33, I can no longer use the SD card port on my iogear multi-thing hub. GUH287. What gives? How do I fix it? Run "sudo journalctl -fa" in a terminal window while you insert the card. See if anything is logged.

Re: mysterious/suspicious internet activity.

2020-12-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/2020 03:43, George N. White III wrote: On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 06:00, Ed Greshko mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com>> wrote: [...]  I can't think of anyone that would go through the trouble of unpacking pcap output to find IP addresses they could attack.  They either farm IP addre

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/6/20 11:06 AM, Amadeus WM via users wrote: On Sun, 06 Dec 2020 13:18:15 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 12/6/20 1:07 PM, Amadeus WM via users wrote: Or, maybe gparted? I can delete sda1, then expand sda2 to the beginning of the disk. Would that work? Hi, No, you can't. You can only ex

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 11:12 AM Qiyu Yan wrote: > > IDK, maybe just because no one is working on this. But changing PRIO may do > similar thing, page swap to zram and hibernat to disk. The kernel knows not to write a hibernation image to a swap device backed by zram. In fact it knows it needs co

Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Kostas Sfakiotakis
Greetings , My Fedora Core 33 installation resides on a hard disk with the use of Logical Volumes like below ( lsblk ) : sda 8:0    0   3.6T  0 disk ├─sda1  8:1    0 2M  0 part ├─sda2  8:2    0    50G  0 part /boot ├─sda3

Re: mysterious/suspicious internet activity.

2020-12-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/12/2020 03:43, George N. White III wrote: On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 06:00, Ed Greshko mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com>> wrote: [...]  I can't think of anyone that would go through the trouble of unpacking pcap output to find IP addresses they could attack.  They either farm IP addre

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Chris Murphy
Backups needed! Plural. Anytime someone openly admits they're screwed if they lose certain files, it tells me at least two backup copies are needed. In my case, the "I'm screwed" data is in a minimum of 4 independent backups including one offsite. Only one of those is raid1 and even though there ar

Re: F33 no longer notices SD card on iogear hub

2020-12-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 12:48:11 -0600 (CST) Michael Hennebry wrote: After going from Centos 7 to F33, I can no longer use the SD card port on my iogear multi-thing hub. GUH287. What gives? How do I fix it? Try every possible combination of different stuff,

Re: Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 12/6/20 5:07 PM, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > Now what's the safest way to enlarge / resize the /var partition with > the use of  /dev/sdb space ??? Ok, assuming you're not interested in the information within OldData volume-group that resides on sdb you can: 1) pvcreate -f /dev/sdb (we're us

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 12/6/20 4:21 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > You *can* do this, but you have to understand what is happening. First > the entire partition is moved (copied) to the new position. So all > 881GB of data has to be read and written. And if the process gets > interrupted for any reason, your filesyste

Re: Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/6/20 1:53 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: p.d. you could create a partition in /dev/sdb and flag it as LVM so you'll end up with /dev/sdb1 but since you already were using the whole device, that's what I used. I recommend using a partition instead of the raw disk, it avoids some potential issu

Re: F33 no longer notices SD card on iogear hub

2020-12-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2020, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 12:48:11 -0600 (CST) Michael Hennebry wrote: After going from Centos 7 to F33, I can no longer use the SD card port on my iogear multi-thing hub. GUH287. What gives? How do I fix it? read

Re: F33 no longer notices SD card on iogear hub

2020-12-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 15:51:38 -0600 (CST) Michael Hennebry wrote: > I booted a C7 live "CD" from the SD card port. > That seems to eliminate hardware problems. That sure makes it seem like it is a fedora problem. I'm now lost, never had simple usb storage and hubs stop working for me. _

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/6/20 1:56 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 12/6/20 4:21 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: You *can* do this, but you have to understand what is happening. First the entire partition is moved (copied) to the new position. So all 881GB of data has to be read and written. And if the process gets interrup

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 12/6/20 6:03 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > gparted has to copy the entire 881GB of partition data from where it > is to the new position. Then it will call resizefs to adjust the > filesystem end. ok, thanks. I didn't know Gparted was brave enough to have that feature... -- Jorge ___

Re: Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Kostas Sfakiotakis
Στις 7/12/20 12:00 π.μ., ο/η Samuel Sieb έγραψε: On 12/6/20 1:53 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: p.d. you could create a partition in /dev/sdb and flag it as LVM so you'll end up with /dev/sdb1 but since you already were using the whole device, that's what I used. I recommend using a partition inst

Re: Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Kostas Sfakiotakis
Στις 6/12/20 11:53 μ.μ., ο/η Jorge Fábregas έγραψε: On 12/6/20 5:07 PM, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: Now what's the safest way to enlarge / resize the /var partition with the use of  /dev/sdb space ??? Ok, assuming you're not interested in the information within OldData volume-group that resides

Re: Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 12/6/20 6:18 PM, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > One last question though , do i need to resize the filesystem of the > /var partition or will it be resized automatically ?? It will be resized automatically due to the "-r" switch we're using with lvextend. You can "man lvextend" and see the option

Re: Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/6/20 2:11 PM, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: Στις 7/12/20 12:00 π.μ., ο/η Samuel Sieb έγραψε: On 12/6/20 1:53 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: p.d. you could create a partition in /dev/sdb and flag it as LVM so you'll end up with /dev/sdb1 but since you already were using the whole device, that's wh

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Amadeus WM via users
On Sun, 06 Dec 2020 17:56:34 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > On 12/6/20 4:21 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> You *can* do this, but you have to understand what is happening. First >> the entire partition is moved (copied) to the new position. So all >> 881GB of data has to be read and written. And if

Re: Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Kostas Sfakiotakis
Στις 7/12/20 12:21 π.μ., ο/η Jorge Fábregas έγραψε: On 12/6/20 6:18 PM, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: One last question though , do i need to resize the filesystem of the /var partition or will it be resized automatically ?? It will be resized automatically due to the "-r" switch we're using with

Re: Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 12/6/20 7:10 PM, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: >   Insufficient free space: 2560 extents needed, but only 2559 available It'll all depended on the extent size ; you can see you're short of just one extent (which is probably 4MB or 8MB don't remember now). You can specify the extension via extents

Re: Logical Volume Resize

2020-12-06 Thread Kostas Sfakiotakis
Στις 7/12/20 1:24 π.μ., ο/η Jorge Fábregas έγραψε: On 12/6/20 7:10 PM, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote:   Insufficient free space: 2560 extents needed, but only 2559 available It'll all depended on the extent size ; you can see you're short of just one extent (which is probably 4MB or 8MB don't reme

Fedora 33 latency

2020-12-06 Thread Earl Ramirez
Good Day All, After performing a few clean install I continue to experience poor read . Initially I installed with BTRFS with RAID1 and after a few minutes I started experiencing delays when I use any application and try to open an existing file. For example, if I am using gedit and select File >

Re: Cups outputting deleted printers

2020-12-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/2/20 11:43 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 33 # rpm -qa cups\* cups-pk-helper-0.2.6-10.fc33.x86_64 cups-pdf-3.0.1-10.fc33.x86_64 cups-libs-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64 cups-client-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64 cups-ipptool-2.3.3-18.fc33.x86_64 cups-filesystem-2.3.3-18.fc33.noarch cups-2.3

Re: mysterious/suspicious internet activity.

2020-12-06 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-12-06 at 15:43 -0400, George N. White III wrote: > As more systems use IPv6, bad actors will have to collect > active IPv6 addresses. You may be one of the first to see that > start. I have to wonder how that's going to go. With IPv4 most people were behind NAT (which isn't a fire

Re: merging two ext4 partitions

2020-12-06 Thread Chris Murphy
Slightly off topic and also hypothetical. Assume the same physical setup, but what if both were Btrfs? /dev/sda148.8G /dev/sda2 881.6G Let's say /dev/sda1 is mounted at /mnt/one And say /dev/sda2 is mounted at /mnt/two I'd likely use 'btrfs send/receive' to replicate the subvolumes

Re: Fedora 33 latency

2020-12-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 7:22 PM Earl Ramirez wrote: > For example, if I am using gedit and select File > > Open I will have to wait approximately 45 to 90 seconds before Nautilus > launch so that I can select the file. It takes 45 seconds to launch any application? This is definitely not normal n

Re: mysterious/suspicious internet activity. [solved]

2020-12-06 Thread home user
On 12/5/20 11:20 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: If you want to make your system "invisible" and won't be running any services you should simply change the zone of your internet interface from "public" to "drop". firewall-cmd --permanent --zone=drop --change-interface=eno1 firewall-cmd --reload -bash.

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 11:42 PM Qiyu Yan wrote: > https://chrisdown.name/2018/01/02/in-defence-of-swap.html > > A good article answering why we need swap. > >> >> Yes I have read this. It is indeed a good article. > >>> Or another workaround, swapon the hibernation only file and swapoff all > o

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:31 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > What do you get for 'swapon' ? > # swapon NAME TYPE SIZE USED PRIO /dev/zram0 partition 3.8G 0B 100 -- Regards, Sreyan Chakravarty ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:04 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > > I think a higher priority is supporting encrypted authenticated > hibernation images. And arguably it's needed for swap as well, because > there are all kinds of private user data that can be evicted to swap. > It's another advantage of swap

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/6/20 10:17 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 1:31 AM Chris Murphy > wrote: What do you get for 'swapon' ? # swapon NAME       TYPE      SIZE USED PRIO /dev/zram0 partition 3.8G   0B  100 So this is why you aren't noticing any impro

Re: F33 BTRFS - Not enough swap space for hibernation

2020-12-06 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > So this is why you aren't noticing any improvement from zram. You > aren't using any swap at all at this point. But more importantly, this > is why hibernation isn't working. You don't have any disk swap. What > happened to your swap file

extensions install method in fedora 33

2020-12-06 Thread Amadeus WM via users
Prior to Fedora 33 I would install gnome shell extensions from the stock software manager. Under Categories -> Add-ons, there was an Extensions tab, but there doesn't seem to be one anymore in F33. Is the web browser the only way to install extensions now? And why do gnome extensions get insta