Re: (fedora) Re: second ethernet device not "seen"

2020-11-08 Thread Jouk Jansen
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote on 7-NOV-2020 14:26:28.21 >On Sat, 2020-11-07 at 09:45 +0100, Jouk Jansen wrote: >> > On 11/6/20 11:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote: >> > > I'm running Fedora 32. I have a Mobo with 2 internet connectors. >> > > However, >> > > the second one I do not "see" when I'm running Fedo

Re: (fedora) second ethernet device not "seen"

2020-11-08 Thread Jouk Jansen
users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote on 7-NOV-2020 15:43:13.88 >On 11/7/20 4:13 AM, Jouk Jansen wrote: >> Why is much more done for enp4s0 than for enp6s0? >do you have an ethernet cable plugged into both? Yes Pax, vel iniusta, utilior est quam iustissimum bellum. (free after Marcus Tullius

Re: (fedora) Re: second ethernet device not "seen"

2020-11-08 Thread Jouk Jansen
Roger Heflin wrote on 7-NOV-2020 22:53:48.78 >try ifconfig -a , ifconfig only shows interfaces that are "up", >ifconfig XXX up will do it, or networkmanager can set it up if it has >a config or having a network-scripts file for it saying onboot=yes or >a ifup with a network-scripts ifcfg-dev file

Re: (fedora) Re: second ethernet device not "seen"

2020-11-08 Thread Jouk Jansen
Samuel Sieb wrote on 8-NOV-2020 01:39:52.79 >On 11/7/20 5:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Not an answer to your question, but why aren't your replies in the same >> thread as the original post? >The only clue being the "x-vms-to:" header, it appears to be coming from >a VMS mail system. I h

Re: (fedora) Re: second ethernet device not "seen"

2020-11-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/7/20 11:57 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote on 7-NOV-2020 14:26:28.21 On Sat, 2020-11-07 at 09:45 +0100, Jouk Jansen wrote: On 11/6/20 11:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote: I'm running Fedora 32. I have a Mobo with 2 internet connectors. However, the second one I do not "see" whe

Re: (fedora) Re: second ethernet device not "seen"

2020-11-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-11-08 at 08:57 +0100, Jouk Jansen wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote on 7-NOV-2020 14:26:28.21 > > > On Sat, 2020-11-07 at 09:45 +0100, Jouk Jansen wrote: > > > > On 11/6/20 11:54 PM, Jouk Jansen wrote: > > > > > I'm running Fedora 32. I have a Mobo with 2 internet connectors. > > > >

Re: (fedora) Re: second ethernet device not "seen"

2020-11-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-11-08 at 09:14 +0100, Jouk Jansen wrote: > Samuel Sieb wrote on 8-NOV-2020 01:39:52.79 > > > On 11/7/20 5:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Not an answer to your question, but why aren't your replies in the same > > > thread as the original post? > > The only clue being the "x-v

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 7:47 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/7/20 3:16 PM, jdow wrote: > > On 20201107 13:21:47, Cameron Simpson wrote: > >> On 06Nov2020 21:50, Tom Horsley wrote: > >>> For as long as I can remember I've run dnf update in a root > >>> xterm and when all the akmod activity and wot-

Re: (fedora) Re: second ethernet device not "seen"

2020-11-08 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-11-08 at 08:57 +0100, Jouk Jansen wrote: > Probably because my mail-client adds (if not present) "(fedora)" to > the subject. Its makes it easy for me to sort them out. It's really not a good idea to go changing the subject lines of emails, especially to a mailing list, unless you are

XOrg does not start automatically after switching to KDE

2020-11-08 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
Hi, I just switched to KDE, but when I now start my laptop the KDE display manager does not automatically start with boot. It halts at : localhost login: I have to manually type in my user and password, then issue the command 'startx' then SDDM actually starts. How can I make it

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Jamie Fargen
On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mauricio Tavares wrote: > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 7:47 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > On 11/7/20 3:16 PM, jdow wrote: > > > On 20201107 13:21:47, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > >> On 06Nov2020 21:50, Tom Horsley wrote: > > >>> For as long as I can remember I've run dnf

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Dave Stevens
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 17:28:01 -0800 jdow wrote: and then others wrote "The current console user is generally allowed to reboot the system." why?? isn't that a giant security hole? just from mistakes, not to mention malice. I just shut everything down. On reboot I logged in as dave, no apps run

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Jamie Fargen
On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 2:15 PM Dave Stevens wrote: > On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 17:28:01 -0800 > jdow wrote: > > > > and then others wrote > > "The current console user is generally allowed to reboot the system." > > why?? isn't that a giant security hole? just from mistakes, not to > mention malice. >

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Dave Stevens
On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 14:19:53 -0500 Jamie Fargen wrote: > If you have physical access it is trivial to gain root to the host, by > booting into single user mode and changing the root password. you mean it won't work over ssh? ___ users mailing list -- us

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 11:13:31AM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote: > "The current console user is generally allowed to reboot the system." > why?? isn't that a giant security hole? just from mistakes, not to > mention malice. What is the attack scenario you are envisioning here for this to be a securit

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Jamie Fargen
> > you mean it won't work over ssh? > Correct. If you ssh into a host, you need to be in a group with elevated privileges like whee, use sudo, or the root user to shutdown or reboot the system. I ssh'd into the same system with the same username and password with the F32 VM that I started up and

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Dave Stevens
On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 14:36:03 -0500 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 11:13:31AM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote: > > "The current console user is generally allowed to reboot the > > system." why?? isn't that a giant security hole? just from > > mistakes, not to mention malice. > > What

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 08Nov2020 11:13, Dave Stevens wrote: >On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 17:28:01 -0800 >jdow wrote: > > >and then others wrote >"The current console user is generally allowed to reboot the system." > >why?? isn't that a giant security hole? just from mistakes, not to >mention malice. Cannot the console user

Have I bricked a PC?

2020-11-08 Thread Beartooth
I have a DVD with F 33 Live, in the drawer of an oldish machine. I can't get it to boot from the DVD. It was originally a System 76, which came with Ubuntu. I had to get help to switch it to Fedora, but it's been OK till now. (I've been doing system upgrades with dnf; but that

Re: Have I bricked a PC?

2020-11-08 Thread Jack Craig
On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 1:07 PM Beartooth wrote: > > I have a DVD with F 33 Live, in the drawer of an oldish machine. > I can't get it to boot from the DVD. > > It was originally a System 76, which came with Ubuntu. I had to > get help to switch it to Fedora, but it's been OK till

Fonts wrong size and not displaying properly after upgrade to F33

2020-11-08 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     When Thunderbird highlights a mail line in, say, my inbox the bottom of the highlight bar is right on the bottom of the text making it look like the bottom of the text is chopped off. The same situation happens with icon labels on the desktop. Also the text in the taskbar entries for r

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/8/20 12:13 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: I just shut everything down. On reboot I logged in as dave, no apps running and only one user - me. typing reboot into bash restarted the machine. Does your regular user have wheel? If so, try creating a test user without it and see what happens. (Non

newbie question

2020-11-08 Thread David
Is Fedora 32 more stable than 33 or vice versa, as on November, 2020? If a user were to take present state of Rawhide, but not update risky packages, would there be any benefit to that ? Meaning to manually update, skipping some packages. Are some Desktop Environments in Fedora more stable ? W

Re: Have I bricked a PC?

2020-11-08 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Is it a 32bit CPU?? Fedora no longer works on 32bit CPUs. Had a system that had been running the 32bit version on a machine that had a 64 bit CPU, had to do a clean install, but it the CPU is only 32bit, you would be stuck with running the last versin that supported 32bit. Have you tried if it w

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread jdow
On 20201108 11:33:30, Dave Stevens wrote: On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 14:19:53 -0500 Jamie Fargen wrote: If you have physical access it is trivial to gain root to the host, by booting into single user mode and changing the root password. you mean it won't work over ssh? There seems to be

Re: Oh God! More helpful software :-).

2020-11-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 12:05:14PM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 11:13:31AM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote: > > > "The current console user is generally allowed to reboot the > > > system." why?? isn't that a giant security hole? just from > > > mistakes

Re: newbie question

2020-11-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 03:51:02PM -0600, David wrote: > Is Fedora 32 more stable than 33 or vice versa, as on November, 2020? Based on crash reports, both seem like pretty solid releases. I don't think one is particularly riskier than the other. > If a user were to take present state of Rawhide,

Re: newbie question

2020-11-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/8/20 3:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 03:51:02PM -0600, David wrote: Is Fedora 32 more stable than 33 or vice versa, as on November, 2020? Based on crash reports, both seem like pretty solid releases. I don't think one is particularly riskier than the other. There

Re: Have I bricked a PC?

2020-11-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-11-08 13:07, Beartooth wrote: I have a DVD with F 33 Live, in the drawer of an oldish machine. I can't get it to boot from the DVD. It was originally a System 76, which came with Ubuntu. I had to get help to switch it to Fedora, but it's been OK till now. (I've been doin

Re: Have I bricked a PC?

2020-11-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-11-08 13:55, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: Is it a 32bit CPU?? Fedora no longer works on 32bit CPUs. If I am not mistaken, if you try to install 64 bit Fedora on a 32 bit system, you get the finger shaken at you. I will be glad when I don't have to deal with 32 bit system anymo

Re: newbie question

2020-11-08 Thread ilau...@bigpond.net.au
Is Fedora 32 more stable than 33 or vice versa, as on November, 2020? While a release is not EOL it tends to stay fairly well synchronized to the latest release. For example, 33 and 32 are running the same basic kernel. If a user were to take present state of Rawhide, but not update ris

Re: Have I bricked a PC?

2020-11-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-11-08 13:07, Beartooth wrote: I have a DVD with F 33 Live, in the drawer of an oldish machine. I can't get it to boot from the DVD. It was originally a System 76, which came with Ubuntu. I had to get help to switch it to Fedora, but it's been OK till now. (I've been doin

Re: New parallel port card won't work

2020-11-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-11-02 17:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/2/20 3:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-02 14:33, Samuel Sieb wrote: lspci -nn # lspci -nn Ok, so nothing there.  Any luck with the driver? None. From the readme Building the Driver and application:

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-11-08 Thread Joe Wulf via users
I like both atop and htop.  One little challenge with atop is when installing it during kickstart ks.cfg %post --chroot.  It gives a few errors, but are not insurmountable. Simply take the systemctl commands and get them executed after the 1st reboot.  It works quite well at that point.  Should

Re: Any better gnome-system-monitor?

2020-11-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-11-08 21:07, Joe Wulf via users wrote: I like both atop and htop.  One little challenge with atop is when installing it during kickstart ks.cfg %post --chroot.  It gives a few errors, but are not insurmountable. Simply take the systemctl commands and get them executed after the 1st rebo

Re: New parallel port card won't work

2020-11-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/8/20 8:01 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-02 17:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/2/20 3:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-02 14:33, Samuel Sieb wrote: lspci -nn # lspci -nn Ok, so nothing there.  Any luck with the driver? None. From the readme Don't follo

Re: New parallel port card won't work

2020-11-08 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-11-08 22:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/8/20 8:01 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-02 17:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/2/20 3:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-02 14:33, Samuel Sieb wrote: lspci -nn # lspci -nn Ok, so nothing there.  Any luck with the driver

Re: New parallel port card won't work

2020-11-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/8/20 11:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-08 22:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/8/20 8:01 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-02 17:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/2/20 3:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-02 14:33, Samuel Sieb wrote: lspci -nn # lspci -

Re: New parallel port card won't work

2020-11-08 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/8/20 11:07 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/8/20 11:04 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-08 22:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/8/20 8:01 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-02 17:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/2/20 3:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-11-02 14:33,