Re: upgrade 30 to 32

2020-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 23:12:06 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > This has been solved by > > rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK-0.12-1-1.fc30.x86_64 The good old "rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK" would have been enough for the most common use case. ___ users mailing list -- users

Re: upgrade 30 to 32

2020-06-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/2/20 12:14 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 23:12:06 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: This has been solved by rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK-0.12-1-1.fc30.x86_64 The good old "rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK" would have been enough for the most common use case. Maybe you missed the original m

Re: upgrade 30 to 32

2020-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 00:25:59 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK-0.12-1-1.fc30.x86_64 > > > > The good old "rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK" would have been enough for the > > most common use case. > > Maybe you missed the original message where he tried the equivalent of > that wit

Re: upgrade 30 to 32

2020-06-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/2/20 12:57 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 00:25:59 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK-0.12-1-1.fc30.x86_64 The good old "rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK" would have been enough for the most common use case. Maybe you missed the original message where he tried the e

Re: gnome-system-monitor with IO?

2020-06-02 Thread Bob Marcan
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 23:11:40 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Anyone know of a substitute /usr/bin/gnome-system-monitor > that will show IO, like iotop, but with a gui? > > Many thanks, > -T Not gui, but ... Name : atop Version : 2.5.0 Release : 2.fc32 Archit

Re: boot/grub

2020-06-02 Thread Stephen Morris
On 2/6/20 10:38 am, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/1/20 4:10 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: I am confused by this process as well. If I issue the command efibootmgr -v I get the following output, and, I don't understand how that information relates to the segmented disk image that is being used when Fedor

Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I have a powered USB dock with a couple of SATA drives configured as RAID1, and used only for nightly backups. The (minimal) manual for the dock tells me it will power down after 30 minutes idle time, however I don't see this happening. I presume that something (such as the md system) is touching t

Re: upgrade 30 to 32

2020-06-02 Thread Tim via users
Patrick Dupre wrote: >> This has been solved by >> >> rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK-0.12-1-1.fc30.x86_64 Michael Schwendt: > The good old "rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK" would have been enough for the > most common use case. Don't you have to do up to the first dot? i.e. rpm -q perl-PDL-LAPACK-0 -- unam

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-06-02 17:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I have a powered USB dock with a couple of SATA drives configured as > RAID1, and used only for nightly backups. The (minimal) manual for the > dock tells me it will power down after 30 minutes idle time, however I > don't see this happening. I pres

Re: windows10 disk not showing up

2020-06-02 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 23:08, Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2020-06-01 at 15:55 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > > If the CMOS battery is going bad, there will be a lot more problems > > than just losing the settings of one drive! If none of the other > > settings are giving trouble, it's not the batter

Re: upgrade 30 to 32

2020-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 19:29:51 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > Patrick Dupre wrote: > >> This has been solved by > >> > >> rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK-0.12-1-1.fc30.x86_64 > > Michael Schwendt: > > The good old "rpm -e perl-PDL-LAPACK" would have been enough for the > > most common use case. > > Don'

build package

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I am rebuilding the perl packages that I need. perl-Math-GSL-0.40.tar.gz rpmbuild -bb perl-Math-GSL.spec gives an error: Checking for GSL using gsl-config Found GSL 2.6 (via gsl-config) installed in /usr Checking if gcc supports "-Wall"...yes Checking if gcc supports "-Wno-sometimes-uni

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 18:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-06-02 17:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I have a powered USB dock with a couple of SATA drives configured as > > RAID1, and used only for nightly backups. The (minimal) manual for the > > dock tells me it will power down after 30 mi

Multiboot question

2020-06-02 Thread Steven Usdansky via users
I have two bootable disks, and SSD with F32 (and Win 10), and a HDD with F31 and a few other distros. Each disk has its own EFI partition. F32 mounts the SSD's EFI partition at /boot/efi; F31 mounts the HDD's EFI partition at /boot/efi. Both Fedoras have the appropriate entries in their respecti

installation of F32 onto a ext. disk with 3 partitions

2020-06-02 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
Hi,I tried to install F32 on one partition of an external disk with 3 partitions. I could not choose the partition I wanted, there was no choice, which I have had in F31 and previously. Is the only way to overwrite F31 in a 3 partitions disk an uograde F31 -> F32?Kind Regards Joerg _

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 11:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 18:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 2020-06-02 17:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I have a powered USB dock with a couple of SATA drives configured as > > > RAID1, and used only for nightly backups. The (mi

Re: gnome-system-monitor with IO?

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 11:26 +0200, Bob Marcan wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 23:11:40 -0700 > ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Anyone know of a substitute /usr/bin/gnome-system-monitor > > that will show IO, like iotop, but with a gui? > > > > Many thanks, > > -T > > Not gui, b

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-06-02 19:29, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Doesn't seem to do anything. I've tested with this line in /etc/fstab: > > UUID=6cb66da2-147a-4f3c-a513-36f6164ab581 /raid ext4 > rw,x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.device-timeout=1,x-systemd.idle-timeout=60 > 0 0 > > followed by 'mount -a

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-06-02 20:07, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-06-02 19:29, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Doesn't seem to do anything. I've tested with this line in /etc/fstab: >> >> UUID=6cb66da2-147a-4f3c-a513-36f6164ab581 /raid ext4 >> rw,x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.device-timeout=1,x-systemd.idle-ti

Re: boot/grub

2020-06-02 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 07:31:33PM +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > I understand this is the entry that is being booted from, but I don't > understand why it is that entry rather than boot0003, which looks to be the > vm disk partition, when I am running fedora within a vm. I don't understand > how t

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 11:57:13AM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Thanks Ed. I managed to find the man pages under systemd-mount(1) but > it took a while. The man page for mount(1) should have a reference but > doesn't. They aren't really mount options, but something that the systemd-fstab-ge

Re: build package

2020-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 12:36:03 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > I am rebuilding the perl packages that I need. > perl-Math-GSL-0.40.tar.gz > > > rpmbuild -bb perl-Math-GSL.spec > > gives an error: > Checking for GSL using gsl-config > Found GSL 2.6 (via gsl-config) installed in /usr > Ch

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-06-02 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-06-01 06:45, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2020-05-31 22:12, Samuel Sieb wrote: If you rebooted, then the runaway script is gone and won't be affecting anything.  I'm confused how you say some things can run aplay and make audio, but you can't run it directly. _ ° Yes, confusing to

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Roger Heflin
you should not need any mount options. I have a mounted md array and have went to great lengths to make sure nothing usually accesses it and the drives do spin down and stay spun down until something accesses it. Making sure nothing was accessing it was not the easiest. A "df" with no options wi

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 20:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-06-02 20:07, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 2020-06-02 19:29, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Doesn't seem to do anything. I've tested with this line in /etc/fstab: > > > > > > UUID=6cb66da2-147a-4f3c-a513-36f6164ab581 /raid ext4 > >

Fw: gnome-system-monitor with IO?

2020-06-02 Thread Bob Marcan
> Not gui, but ... > > Name : atop > Version : 2.5.0 > Release : 2.fc32 The right URL is https://www.atoptool.nl/ The maintaner should update this. BR, Bob ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Multiboot question

2020-06-02 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 11:15:37 - Steven Usdansky via users wrote: > I have two bootable disks, and SSD with F32 (and Win 10), and a HDD > with F31 and a few other distros. Each disk has its own EFI > partition. F32 mounts the SSD's EFI partition at /boot/efi; F31 > mounts the HDD's EFI partitio

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 10:17 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > you might want to > > run a lsof and see if anything has open files on it, and if nothing > > has open files on it, then it may something monitoring say space. $ sudo lsof /raid lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/

Re: installation of F32 onto a ext. disk with 3 partitions

2020-06-02 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 11:25:48 + (UTC) Joerg Lechner via users wrote: > Hi,I tried to install F32 on one partition of an external disk with 3 > partitions. I could not choose the partition I wanted, there was no > choice, which I have had in F31 and previously. Is the only way to > overwrite F31

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-06-02 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 10:57:00 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 2020-06-01 06:45, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Well, I still have this annoying problem but after my effort > yesterday it appears there was a few errors in my description. > > The Thunderbird notification does not use aplay, it just gets the >

Re: build package

2020-06-02 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 07:36, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > I am rebuilding the perl packages that I need. > perl-Math-GSL-0.40.tar.gz > > > rpmbuild -bb perl-Math-GSL.spec > > gives an error: > Checking for GSL using gsl-config > Found GSL 2.6 (via gsl-config) installed in /usr > Checking if

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-06-02 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-06-02 11:54, stan via users wrote: Try aplay -vvv [wav file] [bobg@Workstation-1 ~]$ aplay -v apps/audio/login.wav Playing WAVE 'apps/audio/login.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Stereo ALSA <-> PulseAudio PCM I/O Plugin Its setup is: stream : PLAYBACK

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Greg Woods
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:27 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > (the only change is in the last two fields, where you had 1 1 rather > than my 0 0, but it made no difference, not that I thought it would). I > also did the daemon-reload thing just in case. > I have found that if you change an fst

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Roger Heflin
I have not dug too far into those tools, but the machine I have a desktop running on does give me messages about low free disk space, so something in the gui side of things is doing the call that df uses to get data. df will spin things up, and if it samples often enough would prevent it from bei

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-06-02 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 12:29:38 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 2020-06-02 11:54, stan via users wrote: > > Try > > aplay -vvv [wav file] > > > [bobg@Workstation-1 ~]$ aplay -v apps/audio/login.wav ^ The vvv is important, because it provides more information, inclu

Re: Prevent locking screen

2020-06-02 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 01 Jun 2020 06:29:47 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > In GNOME, Settings/Privacy/Screen Lock/Automatic Screen Lock -> Off. > (You can still lock it manually if needed.) I didn't find that in Mate, but I did find the power settings in the control panel, and changed that. Thanks, Tom

Re: boot/grub

2020-06-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/2/20 2:31 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 2/6/20 10:38 am, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't know the all the specific details, but this entry describes how to load the grub bootloader to start Fedora: "HD(1,GPT,5a166b43-c099-429b-9587-4cc29389e1cf,0x800,0x12c000)" identifies the hard drive and EFI

Re: build package

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick Dupre
Yes,   This is annoying, I tried to see, if I could fix it, but I could not, there are differences between gsl2.5 and gsl2.6   This block the deployment of my applications.   This a bit systematic, when I move to upgraded version, I always have to face similar issues. perl-Math-GSL is a ke

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-06-02 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-06-02 12:51, stan via users wrote: ^ The vvv is important, because it provides more information, including an output profile over time, a rough vu meter. That is, it will show if aplay is actually sending output to the device. [bobg@Workstation-1 ~]$ aplay -vvv apps/audio/login.wav Pl

Re: build package

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick Dupre
Can I simulatenously install GSL 2.5 and 2.6? or remove GSL 2.6 and intall GSL 2.5?   === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne 9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON

Re: build package

2020-06-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 20:08:16 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Can I simulatenously install GSL 2.5 and 2.6? > > or remove GSL 2.6 and intall GSL 2.5? >   The library SONAME has changed from libgsl.so.23 to libgsl.so.25, but libgslcblas.so.0 hasn't changed, and the Fedora packages would conflict anyw

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-06-02 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 14:06:41 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > The essential ones are OO and up to the red, "L{NE" was muted I set > to MM and turned the level up, that does not restore the sound though. > I'm stumped. Everything says you should have sound from aplay. aplay is producing sound. It's s

Re: installation of F32 onto a ext. disk with 3 partitions

2020-06-02 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
Hi Stan,I tried a "full" installation from an USB medium produced with Fedora Mediawriter. There are 250GB space to use on the wanted partition, where currently F31 is installed. I want to replace F31 by F32, there was no way to use custom installation. Automatic installation was preselected and

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 10:45 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:27 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > > (the only change is in the last two fields, where you had 1 1 rather > > than my 0 0, but it made no difference, not that I thought it would). I > > also did the daemon-re

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 11:51 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > I have not dug too far into those tools, but the machine I have a > > desktop running on does give me messages about low free disk space, so > > something in the gui side of things is doing the call that df uses to > > get data. df will

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-06-02 23:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 10:17 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: >> you might want to >> >> run a lsof and see if anything has open files on it, and if nothing >> >> has open files on it, then it may something monitoring say space. > $ sudo lsof /raid > lsof:

Re: Mount options for mostly-offline drives

2020-06-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 02Jun2020 10:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I have a powered USB dock with a couple of SATA drives configured as RAID1, and used only for nightly backups. The (minimal) manual for the dock tells me it will power down after 30 minutes idle time, however I don't see this happening. I presume th

Re: Multiboot question

2020-06-02 Thread Steven Usdansky via users
Not the answer I was hoping for, but it's a question I've wanted to ask for a while. Thanks for confirming my worst fears 🤠 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedor

Re: Multiboot question

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 23:03 +, Steven Usdansky via users wrote: > Not the answer I was hoping for, but it's a question I've wanted to ask for a > while. Thanks for confirming my worst fears 🤠 Please remember to quote context when replying on HyperKitty, otherwise your message cannot be under

Re: Multiboot question

2020-06-02 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2020-06-03 at 00:11 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Please remember to quote context when replying on HyperKitty, > otherwise your message cannot be understood without firing up a web > browser. Or a threading email client... While I prefer proper quoting, I'd rather have none than th

booting problem

2020-06-02 Thread doug . lindquist
I recently tried to install Centos 8 on my 3tb uefi hd that already had Fedora 32 and Windows 10 on it. The Centos installation did not finish because it could install the boot loader.  It ended up screwing up the uefi boot because it will no longer boot to anything.  It looks like the bios re