Re: Newbie question on mdadm

2020-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 08:21 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 15May2020 11:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I recently had to throw out an old NAS I've been using for over 10 > > years. However I rescued the 2 HDDs and got a dual-slot USB SATA > > docking station for them. To my astonishment Fe

Re: Newbie question on mdadm

2020-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2020-05-15 at 19:57 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > George N. White III wrote: > > On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 18:41, Patrick O'Callaghan > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2020-05-15 at 22:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > echo check > /sys/block/md127/md/sync_action > > > > > > That's

Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: if you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have gone, and clicking just scrolls the way it does in most browsers. Does anyone know if t

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-16 18:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: if > you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would > jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have > gone, and clicking just scrolls

Re: Thunderbird quirk

2020-05-16 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 15:52, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/15/2020 12:39 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: > > Sometime in early April the mailserver on yahoo.com started sending > much > > of the list entries to spam. I noticed because all that was coming > > through on thunderbird were replies. A

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread ja
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:42 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: if > you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would > jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have > gone, and clickin

Re: Thunderbird quirk

2020-05-16 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 07:57, George N. White III wrote: > On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 15:52, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 05/15/2020 12:39 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: >> > Sometime in early April the mailserver on yahoo.com started sending >> much >> > of the list entries to spam. I noticed beca

Re: Newbie question on mdadm

2020-05-16 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 23:09, Tim via users wrote: > On Fri, 2020-05-15 at 10:28 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > This is not so surprising when you realize that most NAS boxes run > > Linux. > > Though it can be surprising to find out how they've used a drive. Such > as a 4TB WD MyCloud that provi

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:42 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: > if you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it > would jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to > have gone, and clickin

Re: Thunderbird quirk

2020-05-16 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2020-05-15 at 23:16 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > What happened is that I had deleted the earlier emails, so the > threading was messed up and I thought you were replying to Tim who > was referring to Yahoo. The *original* post of this thread, from Robert, which I replied to, referred to mai

Re: Newbie question on mdadm

2020-05-16 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Though it can be surprising to find out how they've used a drive. >> Such as a 4TB WD MyCloud that provides that 4TB using two 2TB >> partitions on the *same* drive, using RAID to make them one 4TB. I >> dunno why they'd do it that way. George N. White III: > If you control the hardware

Re: dnf upgrade vs dnf system-upgrade?

2020-05-16 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Wed, 6 May 2020 10:21:03 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/6/20 7:42 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > So, my question: which of the two approaches is "better"? The latter is > > swankier while coming up, but is the one with the Windows-type message > > (Upgrading system -- please do not turn off y

Re: Thunderbird quirk

2020-05-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-05-16 02:19, Joe Zeff wrote: I was relating some other email-related issues I've seen to find out if anybody else had seen them. _ ° VA News   Has some html decorations, perhaps you are filtering html? Thunderbird always bring up a bar for Preferences asking if I want to see t

Re: firwwalld config breaks on update to f31

2020-05-16 Thread Barry Scott
> On 12 May 2020, at 20:53, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:31 PM Barry Scott > wrote: > > > > On 12 May 2020, at 20:28, Barry Scott > > wrote: > > > > I have a working firstwalld with wireguard config working

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Roger Heflin
I am glad they fixed that "bug". The absolute setting it did have was generally useless on larger web pages, and on smaller web pages as Tim says, it was impossible to figure out where you wanted to be. I am not entirely sure who thought it was a good idea, or how they tested it given it was unus

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 18:48 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-16 18:42, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: if > > you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would > > jump instantly to the top or bottom of t

Re: VLC and screen saver

2020-05-16 Thread Robin Lee
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 05:54 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-15 20:02, Robin Lee wrote: > > Hi > > > > I'm on Fedora 32, but this problem I have had for a while. > > > > The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched > > some > > video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is t

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:58 +0100, ja wrote: > On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:42 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: if > > you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would > > jump instantly to the top or botto

Re: Newbie question on mdadm

2020-05-16 Thread Roger Heflin
I intentionally partitioned my 3tb drives into 4x750G, and built 4 separate arrays out of it, and used LVM to make it one big device. #1: it allowed me to use 2x1.5tb in place of a 3tb for a while (I had the old 1.5tb ones) prior to me buying more 3tb ones, later on it allowed me to use those 1.5t

Re: dnf upgrade vs dnf system-upgrade?

2020-05-16 Thread Michael Young
On Sat, 16 May 2020, Ranjan Maitra wrote: There is an option called "upgrade" under dnf system-upgrade. However: https://fedoramagazine.org/upgrading-fedora-31-to-fedora-32/ does not mention it and suggests using: sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=32 What is the difference? dnf

Re: Newbie question on mdadm

2020-05-16 Thread Barry Scott
> On 15 May 2020, at 11:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > However gsmartcontrol reports that one of the HDDs has internal errors. > Would it be best to correct these using mdadm (assuming they can be > corrected), and if so, how? Or should I do an offline copy with the > docking station's "clo

Re: Fedora 32: Monitors not sleeping?

2020-05-16 Thread Barry Scott
> On 15 May 2020, at 13:31, Richard Shaw wrote: > > After upgrading to Fedora 32 my monitors no longer turn off after timeout or > locking the display. > > Interestingly, they do for a few seconds after I lock the screen but then > turn back on. The display is blank/black but the backlightin

Re: F32 Upgrade error: more space needed on the / filesystem... --live-root ?

2020-05-16 Thread Barry Scott
> On 5 May 2020, at 03:57, Ed Greshko wrote: > > FWIW, I generally use lvresize and only on unmounted file-systems. > I'm pretty much sure that is what the warning is trying to tell you. > Having an active filesystem during a resize operation sounds dangerous to me. > > (I've not used LV's muc

Re: Thunderbird quirk

2020-05-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/16/2020 04:57 AM, George N. White III wrote: Thunderbird was classifying some messages from family members as junk, but you have to configure it to automatically move messages flagged as junk from the inbox to a junk folder. In that case, set up a filter that runs before anything else. I

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:00 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > I am glad they fixed that "bug". The absolute setting it did have was > > generally useless on larger web pages, and on smaller web pages as Tim > > says, it was impossible to figure out where you wanted to be. I am > > not entirely sure

Re: Thunderbird quirk

2020-05-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/16/2020 08:33 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: VA News   Has some html decorations, perhaps you are filtering html? Thunderbird always bring up a bar for Preferences asking if I want to see that stuff, I don't but I find the t'bird bar a bigger annoyance than the html, it shows brilliant yellow

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/16/2020 10:04 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: That works, but it means looking away from the screen to find them, and moving your hand away from the mouse. Then use both hands. One for the mouse, one for the keypad. HTH, HAND. ___ users mailing

Re: dnf upgrade vs dnf system-upgrade?

2020-05-16 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 16 May 2020 17:14:53 +0100 (BST) Michael Young wrote: > On Sat, 16 May 2020, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > There is an option called "upgrade" under dnf system-upgrade. > > > > However: https://fedoramagazine.org/upgrading-fedora-31-to-fedora-32/ does > > not mention it and suggests using:

Re: Newbie question on mdadm

2020-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 17:18 +0100, Barry Scott wrote: > > On 15 May 2020, at 11:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > However gsmartcontrol reports that one of the HDDs has internal errors. > > Would it be best to correct these using mdadm (assuming they can be > > corrected), and if so, how? Or

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 11:17 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/16/2020 10:04 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > That works, but it means looking away from the screen to find them, and > > moving your hand away from the mouse. > > Then use both hands. One for the mouse, one for the keypad. HTH, HAND.

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/16/2020 11:27 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: As I'm right-handed, this is pretty awkward. Never mind. I'm right handed and do it all the time. Of course, I've always used both hands when convenient, so it's not a problem for me. ___ users mai

Re: Slightly OT: has Firefox scrolling behaviour changed?

2020-05-16 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Saturday, May 16, 2020 3:42:42 AM MST Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Until recently, Firefox had a feature I really liked and used a lot: if > you clicked anywhere in a scroll bar other than on the slider, it would > jump instantly to the top or bottom of the page. This seems to have > gone, and c

Re: F32 Upgrade error: more space needed on the / filesystem... --live-root ?

2020-05-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/16/20 9:29 AM, Barry Scott wrote: On 5 May 2020, at 03:57, Ed Greshko > wrote: FWIW, I generally use lvresize and only on unmounted file-systems. I'm pretty much sure that is what the warning is trying to tell you. Having an active filesystem during a resize o

firewalld messed up after updating to F32

2020-05-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik
The first thing that I noticed after updating my router to F32 is that masquerading didn't seem to work. telnet to some public port 80 appears to be blocked, traceroute dies, etc… When I ran firewall-config, the masquerading checkbox was off, so I enabled it, but it made no difference. Po

Re: firewalld messed up after updating to F32

2020-05-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Sam Varshavchik writes: The first thing that I noticed after updating my router to F32 is that masquerading didn't seem to work. telnet to some public port 80 appears to be blocked, traceroute dies, etc… When I ran firewall-config, the masquerading checkbox was off, so I enabled it, but i

Re: firewalld messed up after updating to F32

2020-05-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-17 07:01, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > The first thing that I noticed after updating my router to F32 is that > masquerading didn't seem to work. telnet to some public port 80 appears to be > blocked, traceroute dies, etc… > > When I ran firewall-config, the masquerading checkbox was off,

Re: firewalld messed up after updating to F32

2020-05-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ed Greshko writes: On 2020-05-17 07:01, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > The first thing that I noticed after updating my router to F32 is that masquerading didn't seem to work. telnet to some public port 80 appears to be blocked, traceroute dies, etc… > > When I ran firewall-config, the masqueradi

CUPS print test page -

2020-05-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
I had a printer problem an hour ago and in the course of straightening things out I found that I could not print a CUPS test  page. Is that a new situation for Fedora 32? I also tried the Print Settings in the Administration section. As I remember there was a Maintenance menu in CUPS that had t

Re: CUPS print test page -

2020-05-16 Thread Kevin Becker
Is your printer configured using an IP address or is it just being discovered via mDNS? I had an issue with my F32 upgrade that the mdns4_minimal entry was removed from /etc/nsswitch.conf that broke printing for me. On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 21:36 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I had a printer problem

Re: CUPS print test page -

2020-05-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-17 09:36, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I had a printer problem an hour ago and in the course of straightening things > out I found that I could not print a CUPS test  page. Is that a new situation > for Fedora 32? I also tried the Print Settings in the Administration section. > As I remember

Re: CUPS print test page -

2020-05-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-05-16 21:55, Ed Greshko wrote: From the Printers section you have to pick a printer and then there is a Maintenance drop down and under there is "Print Test" page. No problem here. ° Ok, I found it there as you say, but it seems different than what was required in the recent past. I