Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Walter H.
On Tue, June 6, 2017 06:31, Gordon Messmer wrote: > OP is using that domain in standard DNS, in violation of relevant > standards. can someone bring this to a standard https://www.ietf.org/staging/draft-hoehlhubmer-private-tlds-00.txt ___ users mailing

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 June 2017, Bob Marcan sent: > > [...] > > [...] > > [...] > > > > [...] > > > > [...] > Empty mail again. What is going on? I suspect you've got an option set to mask/hide/mute/silence quotes in replies. Some mailers offer that as option to make it easi

RE: Modern webmail client

2017-06-07 Thread J.Witvliet
Some {free) WIFI-providers block much else besides 80 & 443. That’s the only sensible reason for using webnail. -Original Message- From: Tom Horsley [mailto:horsley1...@gmail.com] Sent: dinsdag 6 juni 2017 21:37 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Modern webmail client On Tue,

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/07/17 04:49, Bob Marcan wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 12:59:07 -0700 > Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> On 06/06/2017 12:49 PM, Walter H. wrote: >> [...] >> [...] >> [...] >> >> [...] >> >> [...] >> ___ >> users mailing list -- users@lists.fedo

Re: 2 mice: left & right handed

2017-06-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 02:25:33PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >That's my attitude as well. However, not everybody follows that > >practice and on the whole the list just regards it as blowing off > >steam and ignores it. What I don't understand is, why is Wayland > >immune to that kind of commen

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread stan
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 17:39:20 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/07/17 04:49, Bob Marcan wrote: >> Empty mail again. What is going on? > > > Well, it seems you are using Claws Mail 3.14.1 to access your mail. > > Maybe you should use the Web interface of gmail to see if there is a > difference

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/07/17 22:07, stan wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 17:39:20 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 06/07/17 04:49, Bob Marcan wrote: > >>> Empty mail again. What is going on? >> >> Well, it seems you are using Claws Mail 3.14.1 to access your mail. >> >> Maybe you should use the Web interface of

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread stan
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 22:33:33 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/07/17 22:07, stan wrote: > > I use claws mail and had no problem seeing this message. I think > > Bob didn't see it because claws doesn't allow html messages unless > > asked to. There is an option to render them as text, which I have

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/07/2017 01:05 AM, Tim wrote: I suspect you've got an option set to mask/hide/mute/silence quotes in replies. Some mailers offer that as option to make it easier to see new content in messages that are bloated with unedited quotes of prior messages. But they can get confused when responden

Using mrtg to monitor cable modem utilization

2017-06-07 Thread Alex
[first time went without a subject somehow...] Hi, Anyone still using mrtg these days? I'm trying to set up mrtg on my fedora25 system connected to a cable modem (35Mbit up, 5Mbit down) on one side and a gigabit ethernet on the other and can't figure out how to reflect that in the config file. M

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Walter H.
On 06.06.2017 21:47, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/06/2017 12:41 PM, Walter H. wrote: On 06.06.2017 20:11, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/06/2017 04:56 AM, Walter H. wrote: So .lan. can't be used. > It can be used, just be aware that maybe someday in the future it will have a different meaning. you're

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Walter H.
On 06.06.2017 22:01, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/06/2017 12:41 PM, Walter H. wrote: I replied to this mail with: if I interpret your reply correctly, I could also use just .waldi or .waldinet? and their reply was: If it's only for internal network, you can use .waldi or .waldinet. If you really

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Walter H.
On 07.06.2017 17:40, stan wrote: But the message that shows up as the empty dots in Samuel's message is from Walter and has the following encoding. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===7498209977189103805==" this is because, my Thunderbird generates both variants, the text/pla

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Mike Wright
On 06/07/2017 09:25 AM, Walter H. wrote: On 07.06.2017 17:40, stan wrote: But the message that shows up as the empty dots in Samuel's message is from Walter and has the following encoding. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===7498209977189103805==" this is because, my Thunde

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/07/2017 09:18 AM, Walter H. wrote: today I found this: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheshire-homenet-dot-home/ as it seems, will .home declared as special domain for private use similar to RFC1918 IP addresses ... I've the solution, or does anybody see a bug? That looks lik

Re: Using mrtg to monitor cable modem utilization

2017-06-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 06/07/2017 09:15 AM, Alex wrote: > [first time went without a subject somehow...] > > Hi, > > Anyone still using mrtg these days? I'm trying to set up mrtg on my > fedora25 system connected to a cable modem (35Mbit up, 5Mbit down) on > one side and a gigabit ethernet on the other and can't fig

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Mike Wright
On 06/07/2017 09:18 AM, Walter H. wrote: On 06.06.2017 21:47, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/06/2017 12:41 PM, Walter H. wrote: On 06.06.2017 20:11, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/06/2017 04:56 AM, Walter H. wrote: So .lan. can't be used. > It can be used, just be aware that maybe someday in the future

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/07/2017 09:20 AM, Walter H. wrote: On 06.06.2017 22:01, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/06/2017 12:41 PM, Walter H. wrote: I replied to this mail with: if I interpret your reply correctly, I could also use just .waldi or .waldinet? and their reply was: If it's only for internal network, you ca

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 07 June 2017, Samuel Sieb sent: > I've always done that and almost did that again right here. :-) It's > easier to just put a newline in instead of also deleting the extra ">" > from the previous line. > Just hitting enter twice would quickly break the quoting apart. If

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 07 June 2017, Mike Wright sent: > I don't see any reason that you couldn't use that. My only concern is > that recursive/caching nameservers would 1) have to be configured not > to "phone home" to the root-servers for .home or 2) resolvers of the > future would have to be sm

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 07 June 2017, Walter H. sent: > your idea is good, but I'm not sure, if this TLD becomes public in > near future, and then I've a problem again ... Well, the only foolproof solution for you is going to be: Register a domain name, so that you own it. You only have to regis

Re: 2 mice: left & right handed

2017-06-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 June 2017, andrea sent: > One on the left and one on the right of the keyboard. > > I would like to set the left as left handed and the right as right > handed. I dare say that it's probably easier to use a mouse that's designed to be left-handed (i.e. one that's wired

Re: Modern webmail client

2017-06-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 June 2017, Samuel Sieb sent: > Maybe you could point out to them that all the major webmail (and > forum) providers don't expect you to use the web interface on your > phone. They provide alternate access, usually with a native app (or > standard protocol) of some sort.

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/07/2017 10:17 AM, Mike Wright wrote: I don't see any reason that you couldn't use that. My only concern is that recursive/caching nameservers would 1) have to be configured not to "phone home" to the root-servers for .home or 2) resolvers of the future would have to be smart enough to no

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Mike Wright
On 06/07/2017 11:19 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/07/2017 10:17 AM, Mike Wright wrote: I don't see any reason that you couldn't use that. My only concern is that recursive/caching nameservers would 1) have to be configured not to "phone home" to the root-servers for .home or 2) resolvers of the

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/07/2017 11:29 AM, Mike Wright wrote: On 06/07/2017 11:19 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/07/2017 10:17 AM, Mike Wright wrote: I don't see any reason that you couldn't use that. My only concern is that recursive/caching nameservers would 1) have to be configured not to "phone home" to the ro

Re: 2 mice: left & right handed

2017-06-07 Thread andrea
On 06/06/17 20:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/06/2017 11:28 AM, andrea wrote: running F25 GNOME on Wayland and have 2 mice. One on the left and one on the right of the keyboard. I would like to set the left as left handed and the right as right handed. In GNOME settings I cannot change it per mo

Re: Private DNS

2017-06-07 Thread Walter H.
On 07.06.2017 20:39, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/07/2017 11:29 AM, Mike Wright wrote: On 06/07/2017 11:19 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 06/07/2017 10:17 AM, Mike Wright wrote: I don't see any reason that you couldn't use that. My only concern is that recursive/caching nameservers would 1) have to be

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Walter H.
On 05.06.2017 22:44, Gordon Messmer wrote: Sounds likely. In this case, you probably want to *remove* nss-mdns, remove the whole X? :D smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Seem to have screwed my F25......

2017-06-07 Thread DB
Evening all, I thought it would be a Good Idea to "improve" my Fedora system if I added an SDD. I put it in, plugged it in & it seemed to work - sort of What I now have is a selection window from grub which has 2 new versions of F25 Workstation (on sda), then an F19, also on sda, followed

Re: 2 mice: left & right handed

2017-06-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 7 Jun 2017 19:52:51 +0100 andrea wrote: > andrea@localhost:~$ xinput --list > ⎡ Virtual core pointerid=2[master pointer (3)] > ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4[slave pointer > (2)] > ⎜ ↳ xwayland-pointer:13

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 06/07/2017 12:05 PM, Walter H. wrote: On 05.06.2017 22:44, Gordon Messmer wrote: Sounds likely. In this case, you probably want to *remove* nss-mdns, remove the whole X? :D I don't really know what that means. ___ users mailing list -- users@li

Re: Seem to have screwed my F25......

2017-06-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/07/2017 12:20 PM, DB wrote: I thought it would be a Good Idea to "improve" my Fedora system if I added an SDD. I put it in, plugged it in & it seemed to work - sort of What I now have is a selection window from grub which has 2 new versions of F25 Workstation (on sda), then an F19, a

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/08/17 00:25, Walter H. wrote: > On 07.06.2017 17:40, stan wrote: >> >> But the message that shows up as the empty dots in Samuel's message is >> from Walter and has the following encoding. >> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; >> boundary="===7498209977189103805==" > this is because,

Wammu questions

2017-06-07 Thread JD
On a machine which has installed gammu-libs dialog gammu python-gammu wammu wammu configure (using automatic detection) is unable to find a connected phone, even though, when I plug in the usb cable, I get a popup on the screen of the gnome directory browser of the phone's storage. So, how d

Re: Wammu questions

2017-06-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/07/2017 06:46 PM, JD wrote: On a machine which has installed gammu-libs dialog gammu python-gammu wammu wammu configure (using automatic detection) is unable to find a connected phone, even though, when I plug in the usb cable, I get a popup on the screen of the gnome directory browser

fedora 25 coredump not being generated

2017-06-07 Thread jayshankar nair
Hi, I have written a snippet of code to generate core dump. a.c#include main(){char **c;c=10; } gcc a.c -o a -g Run:./a In fedora 25 after segmentation fault, core dump  file is not being created.  I have also set the core file to unlimit with the command ulimit -c unlimited. Thanks,Jayshankar Tha

Re: fedora 25 coredump not being generated

2017-06-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 06/07/2017 10:03 PM, jayshankar nair wrote: In fedora 25 after segmentation fault, *core dump file is not being created*. Check the logs, the core dump might be getting captured elsewhere. Normally abrt intercepts them. There is a way to reset where the kernel sends them, look at /proc/s

Re: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature)

2017-06-07 Thread Walter H.
On Wed, June 7, 2017 22:08, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 06/07/2017 12:05 PM, Walter H. wrote: >> On 05.06.2017 22:44, Gordon Messmer wrote: >>> Sounds likely. In this case, you probably want to *remove* nss-mdns, >> remove the whole X? :D >> > > I don't really know what that means. when you do yum

Mailman is broken (was: IP address or DNS name (bug or feature))

2017-06-07 Thread Walter H.
On Wed, June 7, 2017 23:27, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/08/17 00:25, Walter H. wrote: >> On 07.06.2017 17:40, stan wrote: >>> >>> But the message that shows up as the empty dots in Samuel's message is >>> from Walter and has the following encoding. >>> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; >>> boundary="===

Re: fedora 25 coredump not being generated

2017-06-07 Thread jayshankar nair
Hi, The core_pattern contents in /proc/sys/kernel is as below |/usr/libexec/abrt-hook-ccpp %s %c %p %u %g %t %P %I. How to reset the core pattern and generate core dump. I didn't get you. Please show examples. Thanks,Jayshankar On Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:21 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 0