Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Joel Rees
Since gmail isn't letting me reply directly to Ed, On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 07/01/16 13:16, Tim wrote: >> Well, you're participating on a list for Fedora, and many services are >> managed by those people. If it's the Fedora list that's misidentifying >> spam on

Re: Nouveau, Oh No!

2016-07-01 Thread Matthew Colton
Am 30.06.2016 um 23:50 schrieb Ed Greshko: > > On 07/01/16 05:29, Stephen Morris wrote: >> On 30/06/16 07:19, Tom Horsley wrote: >>> I was so happy when the nouveau driver finally worked >>> on my nvidia maxwell card in fedora 24, but now after >>> about a week, this happened: >>> >>> https://bugzi

Re: Nouveau, Oh No!

2016-07-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 12:40:50 +0200 Matthew Colton wrote: > > Additionally, using the akmod-nvidia as opposed to relying on rpmfusion to > > supply kmods > > will free you from having to wait or worry about rpmfusion repositories > > keeping in sync > > with released kernels. > > Yes, works lik

No Wayland option after DNF based upgrade?

2016-07-01 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hello, on one of my workstations I installed Fedora 24 "clean": wiped the hard drive, new partitions and installed Fedora 24 Workstation from the USB stick. Everything worked fine in this case, and as expected - according to various blogs I've found - when logging in I can choose between: - "Gn

Re: Nouveau, Oh No!

2016-07-01 Thread Matthew Colton
Am 01.07.2016 um 13:46 schrieb Tom Horsley: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 12:40:50 +0200 > Matthew Colton wrote: > >>> Additionally, using the akmod-nvidia as opposed to relying on rpmfusion to >>> supply kmods >>> will free you from having to wait or worry about rpmfusion repositories >>> keeping in sync

Re: No Wayland option after DNF based upgrade?

2016-07-01 Thread Jaroslav Mracek
Dear Sanne, I would like to ask you additional question. For nondestructive upgrade did you use system-upgrade plugin and work-flow described here (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade#How_do_I_use_it.3F)? If yes it would be interesting to compare installed packages on both machines

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ed Greshko said: > On 07/01/16 13:16, Tim wrote: > > Well, you're participating on a list for Fedora, and many services are > > managed by those people. If it's the Fedora list that's misidentifying > > spam on the way through, its software needs looking at. But I seem to > > r

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Tim wrote: > But I seem to > recall the conversation pointing the finger at gmail not properly > understanding mailing lists > Google and Yahoo is a well-known issue. There is some anti-spam method (which I can't remember the name of now) that Yahoo's servers cl

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > No, it isn't specifically a Gmail issue, it is an issue from the > combination of DMARC strict policies, sites that enforce DMARC policies, > and mailing lists. > DMARC, that was it. Thank you for the more detailed (and more correct) explanati

Cannot ping6

2016-07-01 Thread Juan Orti Alcaine
Hi, I'm having a network problem with my Fedora 24 Workstation. I cannot ping6 other hosts in the same LAN or on the Internet because it fails with Address unreachable. From other machine in the same LAN (F24 Server) it works fine. In the tcpdump I have the impression that the neighbor solicitatio

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Greg Woods said: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > > No, it isn't specifically a Gmail issue, it is an issue from the > > combination of DMARC strict policies, sites that enforce DMARC policies, > > and mailing lists. > > DMARC, that was it. Thank you for t

Re: Nouveau, Oh No!

2016-07-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/01/16 19:46, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 12:40:50 +0200 > Matthew Colton wrote: > >>> Additionally, using the akmod-nvidia as opposed to relying on rpmfusion to >>> supply kmods >>> will free you from having to wait or worry about rpmfusion repositories >>> keeping in sync >>>

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread vendor
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Ed Greshko said: No, it isn't specifically a Gmail issue, it is an issue from the combination of DMARC strict policies, sites that enforce DMARC policies, and mailing lists. Yahoo publishes DMARC policies that say messages from a Yahoo

Re: Intel Core i5-6200U laptop issue

2016-07-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > Ok, I think I was able to catch the error without having to get that > desparate :) > > I logged in from work and did journalctl -f and got the following: > > http://pastebin.com/3JAL297z > > Looks disk hardware related but it's not getting wo

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 08:16:10 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: The correct solution is for the mailing list software to be changed to rewrite From: addresses. Newer versions of Mailman support this. The address rewriting is annoying, but is the only true solution to being in between sites that p

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III said: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 08:16:10 -0500, > Chris Adams wrote: > >The correct solution is for the mailing list software to be changed to > >rewrite From: addresses. Newer versions of Mailman support this. The > >address rewriting is annoying, but is the

Marching 5's again

2016-07-01 Thread Jon LaBadie
Has there been any resolution to the "marching 5's" syndrome? As I recall it seemed to be kernel release specific. After 6-9 months of no extraneous 5's, I've got the problem again on F22 with kernel 4.4.13-200. Jon -- Jon H. LaBadie jo...@jgcomp.com -- users mailing list users@

Re: [OT] Tim, Gil, et. al. (e-mail address settings)

2016-07-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 07/01/16 13:16, Tim wrote: >> Well, you're participating on a list for Fedora, and many services are >> managed by those people. If it's the Fedora list that's misidentifying >> spam on the way through, its software needs looking at. B

Re: Marching 5's again

2016-07-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/01/2016 10:20 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote: Has there been any resolution to the "marching 5's" syndrome? As I recall it seemed to be kernel release specific. After 6-9 months of no extraneous 5's, I've got the problem again on F22 with kernel 4.4.13-200. I don't have an answer to your problem,

Re: httpd fails to start

2016-07-01 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 06:38:17AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > David A. De Graaf writes: > > > On a newly installed F24 ... > > > > However, when the machine boots (quiet, without rhgb) the messages > > include > > [FAILED] Failed to start The Apache HTTP Server. > > See 'systemctl status

Re: Nouveau, Oh No!

2016-07-01 Thread Robin Laing
On 01/07/16 05:46, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 12:40:50 +0200 Matthew Colton wrote: Additionally, using the akmod-nvidia as opposed to relying on rpmfusion to supply kmods will free you from having to wait or worry about rpmfusion repositories keeping in sync with released kernels.

Re: httpd fails to start

2016-07-01 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 12:37:16PM +0200, Jose Maria Terry Jimenez wrote: > El 28/6/16 a las 11:28, David A. De Graaf escribió: > > On a newly installed F24 ... > > > > However, when the machine boots (quiet, without rhgb) the messages > > include > >[FAILED] Failed to start The Apache HTTP Se

Re: Nouveau, Oh No!

2016-07-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 14:56:47 -0600 Robin Laing wrote: > > Until you install a 4.6 kernel, of course, then the nvidia driver won't > > compile because the helpful linux kernel devs have been changing the > > internal kernel interfaces again :-). > > > > (I'm booted back on the 4.5 kernel now). > > -

Re: httpd fails to start

2016-07-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:36:35 -0400 David A. De Graaf wrote: > With BOTH fixes, httpd now starts correctly. I have so many network things fail to start correctly that I just started putting stuff like this in rc.local: /bin/bash -c 'sleep 5 ; systemctl restart ypbind' > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/null

Re: Intel Core i5-6200U laptop issue

2016-07-01 Thread Richard Shaw
Thanks for the detailed reply so forgive me for not quoting :) I'm not ready to believe the drive is bad, I think what happened is that I didn't realize it but playing around with cockpit I accidentally installed tuned, which is interesting in concept but the aggressive power management did not pl

Re: httpd fails to start

2016-07-01 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/01/2016 03:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:36:35 -0400 > David A. De Graaf wrote: > >> With BOTH fixes, httpd now starts correctly. > > I have so many network things fail to start correctly > that I just started putting stuff like this in rc.local: > > /bin/bash -c 'sleep

Re: httpd fails to start

2016-07-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:45:24 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: > A lot of the issues you're hitting is > NM trying to make up its mind. Actually, I still have the network service startup problems with NM disabled and network turned back on, so I still need to restart things in rc.local to make them be rel

Re: Nouveau, Oh No!

2016-07-01 Thread Stephen Morris
On 01/07/16 07:29, Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/06/16 07:19, Tom Horsley wrote: I was so happy when the nouveau driver finally worked on my nvidia maxwell card in fedora 24, but now after about a week, this happened: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1351286 Total screen freeze :-(.