More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
Hi, F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Dnf hasn't been working properly since F22, while I had not a single problem with yum ever. Still I have

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Diogene Laerce
Le 11/08/2015 03:31, Erik Grun a écrit : > Am 11.08.2015 um 03:25 schrieb Erik Grun: > > Am 08.08.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Heinz Diehl: > >> On 07.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: > > >>> After a sad experience with a system update, I would like to > >>> ask if there is a software on Fedora or more ge

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:35:04 +0200 Heinz Diehl wrote: > F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new > packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" > shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. I don't think that's new with dnf. I've seen sim

Re: swell foop "new game" menu item?

2015-08-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:29:08 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Menu item under "Applications-->Games-->Logic Games" I wasn't clear (not surprising). I meant the menus in the game program itself. Out of curiosity, I did make a new user so I could try it under gnome3, and there is a "play again" button in

Fedora 20: dropping wifi

2015-08-11 Thread Henrik Frisk
Hi, I've been having this problem for some time now, on and off. I loose WiFi and there are no available networks to connect to although I know there should be several and other devices are connected. The only remedy is a restart. Logout will not help. After restart I can access networks for a whi

Re: swell foop "new game" menu item?

2015-08-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/11/15 18:19, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:29:08 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Menu item under "Applications-->Games-->Logic Games" > I wasn't clear (not surprising). I meant the menus in the > game program itself. Out of curiosity, I did make a new > user so I could try it und

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new > packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" > shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. So two update commands at different times give di

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 12:16 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:35:04 +0200 Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Last Su

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*.

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:50:02 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Last Sunday, I've had a case, where I resorted to > rm -rf /var/cache/dnf > because neither "dnf clean all" nor "dnf --refresh" seems to have worked. > > No matter what I did dnf seems have refetched the same outdated mirror > presentin

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > > F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some > > > new > > > packets. Then "dnf clean all" followed by "d

Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to unmount it, while before it was always possible. How can I unmount a USB key safely? Thank. === Patri

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > So two update commands at different times give different results? If "two update commands issued directly after another" qualify as "at different times", then yes. In fact, there was not more than max. one minute between the two. > > Dnf hasn't been w

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running "dnf --refresh upgrade" shows some new packets. Then

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/11/2015 09:33 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes > It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to > unmount it, while before it was always possible. > How can I unmount a USB key safely? terminal window, type: # df -h you should see

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread SternData
On 08/11/2015 08:33 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes > It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to > unmount it, while before it was always possible. > How can I unmount a USB key safely? > If you use Gnome, there's an e

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
Sure, But, it just seems to be one step back. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | |

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:41:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > So two update commands at different times give different results? > > If "two update commands issued directly after another" qualify as "at > different times", then yes. In fact, there was n

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
This extension does not let you unmount the device, it just let you see the removable devices! === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Un

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 08/11/2015 10:17 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > But, it just seems to be one step back. that's the way I always do it.. If I can do it on the command line, I try to do it that way. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapr

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread SternData
On 08/11/2015 09:23 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > This extension does not let you unmount the device, it just let you > see the removable devices! > > === > Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.08.2015, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. > Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer > look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. Ok, I see. So what command should I use to keep my sy

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.08.2015, Patrick Dupre wrote: > In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes > It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to > unmount it, while before it was always possible. F22, XFCE spin: there's an "unmount" option, which works for me. -- users mailing list u

Re: Fedora-22: KDE vs GTK

2015-08-11 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
I think it is the correct file, since editing it affects GTK. more or less as I expect. It turns out that evolution can control the fonts it uses for message display and composition. Now everything is copacetic. jon On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 06:32 +, Martin Cigorraga wrote: > Hmm, I'm not sure

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 04:35:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. > > Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer > > look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. > Ok, I see. So what command s

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
This is bizarre, I have almost the same, except the 2 arrows in the right side encircled in red. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick Dupre
> > On 11.08.2015, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > In fedora 22, when a USB key is connected, a icon comes > > It was the same in fedora 20, but now there is not way to > > unmount it, while before it was always possible. > > F22, XFCE spin: there's an "unmount" option, which works for me. F22 gno

Re: rsyslog "stop" syntax

2015-08-11 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > I have a bunch of lines like this in > /etc/rsyslog.d/systemd-drivel.conf: > > :msg, contains, "Activating via systemd" ~ > :msg, contains, "Activation via systemd failed" ~ > > Every time I boot, rsyslogd complains about > the deprecated synt

Re: Umount USB

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > F22 gnome, this option is just missing, it was here in F20. It's in Fedora 22 Gnome also. I'd say you either have something broken in the installation/upgrade, or the removable isn't actually mounted, or you've found a bug related to the sp

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 15:41 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > So two update commands at different times give different results? > > If "two update commands issued directly after another" qualify as "at > different times", then yes. In fact, there was not

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync > > Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those > directories > is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more > efficie

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 15:42 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 08/11/2015 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > > > >

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 04:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 04:35:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both

F20 - Moving notebook pieces around - no mouse

2015-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am combining parts of two kind of working notebooks to try and get one working. These are Lenovo x120e notebooks. I took the system board and drive from a system that booted up but had fan and other issues and moved it to a system that had a dead system board. I THINK the dead board was th

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system st

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Diogene Laerce
Le 11/08/2015 18:18, Chris Murphy a écrit : > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: > >>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync >> Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those >> directories >> is enough for a full restoration o

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi Rick, Le 11/08/2015 19:18, Rick Stevens a écrit : > On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce >> wrote: >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync >>> >>> Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the bac

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Andrew R Paterson
Hi, this stupid argument rears its head again - snapshots vs "backups". At least now someone advocating time-consuming "backups" has come up with a logical argument - You "usually" put the system into a static state before performing a "backup". Trouble is - the "backup" usually means you

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: > Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those > directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method > is far more > efficient than the others, isn't it ? If you backup all your partitions with rsync, all you hav

Re: Fedora 20: dropping wifi

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008
On 08/11/2015 04:24 AM, Henrik Frisk wrote: Hi, I've been having this problem for some time now, on and off. I loose WiFi and there are no available networks to connect to although I know there should be several and other devices are connected. The only remedy is a restart. Logout will not

Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008
TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread Kevin Cummings
On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote: > TB 38.1.0: > The list of available search engines is limited, > and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had *any* search engines -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@verizon.net cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/11/2015 12:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had*any* search engines I didn't even know that an email client needed a search engine. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008
Edit -> Preferences -> General Tab On 08/11/2015 01:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. I wasn't aware that Thunderbird had *any* search engines..

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Murphy
The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots, with an otherwise stateful system. This is how Windows has done updates for a long time now, and snapper, and

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread SternData
On 08/11/2015 02:22 PM, jd1008 wrote: > Edit -> Preferences -> General Tab > > On 08/11/2015 01:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: >> On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote: >>> TB 38.1.0: >>> The list of available search engines is limited, >>> and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. >>

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008
On 08/11/2015 01:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots, with an otherwise stateful system. This is how Windows has don

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008
On 08/11/2015 01:50 PM, SternData wrote: On 08/11/2015 02:22 PM, jd1008 wrote: Edit -> Preferences -> General Tab On 08/11/2015 01:12 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: On 08/11/15 15:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to ad

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread g
On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote: > TB 38.1.0: > The list of available search engines is limited, > and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General Tab -> [Config Editor] in about:config window; Search: search you will/should see;

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread g
On 08/11/15 14:57, jd1008 wrote: <<>> > Forums?? > What a pain!!! > TB and FF refuse to create a miling list such as this one. wrong. mozilla has both 'email list' and 'news group' support. their is a pain tho. his name is chris iliass. ;-) -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Window

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008
On 08/11/2015 02:03 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 14:57, jd1008 wrote: <<>> Forums?? What a pain!!! TB and FF refuse to create a miling list such as this one. wrong. mozilla has both 'email list' and 'news group' support. their is a pain tho. his name is chris iliass. ;-) Indeed I have run i

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:56 PM, jd1008 wrote: > > > On 08/11/2015 01:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> The other context for snapshots are system rollbacks, which is on a >> sliding continuum between stateless vs stateful systems. So you can >> get certain aspects of statelessness with snapshots,

Fixed - Re: F20 - Moving notebook pieces around - no mouse

2015-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I noticed something with the touchpad connector, so we switched covers (and thus touchpad), and now it is all working. Whew, that saves some money. Now to upgrade On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am combining parts of two kind of working notebooks to try and get one work

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread g
On 08/11/15 15:13, jd1008 wrote: > On 08/11/2015 02:03 PM, g wrote: >> On 08/11/15 14:57, jd1008 wrote: >> <<>> >> >>> Forums?? >>> What a pain!!! >>> TB and FF refuse to create a miling list such as this one. >> wrong. mozilla has both 'email list' and 'news group' support. >> >> their is a pain

Re: backup snapshot

2015-08-11 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/11/2015 10:52 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi Rick, Le 11/08/2015 19:18, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008
On 08/11/2015 01:58 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General Tab -> [Config Editor] in about:config window; Searc

0anacron cron script produces errors

2015-08-11 Thread Alex
disabled selinux to make sure. Running logger manually as root succeeds as expected. # ls -l /dev/log srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Aug 10 06:04 /dev/log logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron: + test -r /var/spool/anacron/cron.daily ++ cat /var/spool/anacron/cron.daily +

Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors

2015-08-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/11/2015 02:24 PM, Alex wrote: I've even disabled selinux to make sure. Running logger manually as root succeeds as expected. Disabling SELinux because some random program crashes is nothing more than voodoo troubleshooting. If you're not getting alerts about violations, it's not a fact

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread g
On 08/11/15 16:01, jd1008 wrote: > On 08/11/2015 01:58 PM, g wrote: >> On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote: >>> TB 38.1.0: >>> The list of available search engines is limited, >>> and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. >>Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> General Tab -> [Co

F22: KDE to Gnome?

2015-08-11 Thread Rich Emberson
Upgraded from F20 KDE environment using fedup --network 22 --product=nonproduct and X/KDE has rendering/refresh/redraw issues. Application widgets and KDE pop menus are not draw, or, at best some edge or corner is drawn. In an xterm, the line being entered is drawn, but nothing else - move the w

F22 - building local repo

2015-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am downloading (with rsync) the x86_64 os and updates, but noticed how little there is under the os directories, and that there is this 'everything' tree with all of the rpms for the os. Can I rsync the everything packages and repodata directories on top of the os tree to make a complete set

Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors

2015-08-11 Thread Alex
Hi, >> I've even disabled selinux to make sure. Running logger manually as >> root succeeds as expected. > > Disabling SELinux because some random program crashes is nothing more than > voodoo troubleshooting. If you're not getting alerts about violations, it's > not a factor. Yes, thanks. In th

Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors

2015-08-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/11/2015 04:20 PM, Alex wrote: Yes, thanks. In the past, I've always received a ton of "have you tried with selinux disabled?" responses, so it was an effort to pre-empt those emails. Understood. I've always found the best answer to be "What makes you think SELinux is involved?" -- user

Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors

2015-08-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/12/15 05:24, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I have been receiving "logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused" > from the 0anacron script every hour since recently doing an update. > I've enabled tracing in the script with -x to try and isolate where > it's coming from, but nothing obvious is produce

Re: 0anacron cron script produces errors

2015-08-11 Thread Alex
Hi, >> I have been receiving "logger: socket /dev/log: Connection refused" >> from the 0anacron script every hour since recently doing an update. >> I've enabled tracing in the script with -x to try and isolate where >> it's coming from, but nothing obvious is produced. >> >> I've even disabled se

Re: F22 - building local repo

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:05:21 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I am downloading (with rsync) the x86_64 os and updates, but noticed how > little there is under the os directories, and that there is this > 'everything' tree with all of the rpms for the os. > > Can I rsync the everything packages

Re: F22 - building local repo

2015-08-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/11/2015 08:29 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:05:21 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am downloading (with rsync) the x86_64 os and updates, but noticed how little there is under the os directories, and that there is this 'everything' tree with all of the rpms for the

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread jd1008
On 08/11/2015 04:13 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 16:01, jd1008 wrote: On 08/11/2015 01:58 PM, g wrote: On 08/11/15 14:10, jd1008 wrote: TB 38.1.0: The list of available search engines is limited, and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/12/15 03:10, jd1008 wrote: > The list of available search engines is limited, > and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. Seems like you want to add google. Well, just use google to find https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/open-search#w_how-to-add-google-to-the-sea

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread g
On 08/11/15 20:28, jd1008 wrote: > On 08/11/2015 04:13 PM, g wrote: <<>> >> try entering *complete* _http_ / _https_ address. _not_ just engine name. >> >> also, if does not work, enter word search in "Search:" bar and with search >> direction pointing down so i can compare to mine easier. ty. >

Re: Search Engines of TB

2015-08-11 Thread g
On 08/11/15 21:31, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/12/15 03:10, jd1008 wrote: >> The list of available search engines is limited, >> and provides no way for the user to add other search engines. > > Seems like you want to add google. > > Well, just use google to find > > https://support.mozilla.org