Re: Evernote client?

2014-09-09 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I should have mentioned that I've already glanced at Geeknote and > Nixnote (Nevernote), but neither appears to have a Fedora package. Nixnote 2 provides a RPM. I have tried it myself but it is development. Nixnote 1 was Java based whi

is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Balint Szigeti
hello all I've just read this artic. http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html What do you think guyes? Does systemd really want to be the 'core-engine' for an OS? It sound ridiculous for me. As I remember their target was (only) replace the init, then they did m

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 September 2014 08:55, Balint Szigeti wrote: > hello all > > I've just read this artic. > http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html > > What do you think guyes? > Does systemd really want to be the 'core-engine' for an OS? It sound > ridiculous for me. As I re

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Richard Hughes
On 9 September 2014 08:55, Balint Szigeti wrote: > Maybe I have watched too many films... Yes, you have. If you don't like the direction systemd is taking then please install one of the BSD's and stop the discussion on this user list. Thanks. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproj

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Richard Hughes wrote: > If you don't like the direction systemd is taking then > please install one of the BSD's and stop the discussion on this user > list. Thanks. That seems a completely unreasonable and intolerant comment to me. contrary to the whole spirit of Linux. Perhaps you should go ove

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100 Balint Szigeti wrote: > What do you think guyes? I think these guys have a better plan: http://boycottsystemd.org/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: Evernote client?

2014-09-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 13:12 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > > I should have mentioned that I've already glanced at Geeknote and > > Nixnote (Nevernote), but neither appears to have a Fedora package. > > > Nixnote 2 provides a RPM. I have tried it myself but it is > development. Nixnote 1 was Java

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Rex Dieter
Timothy Murphy wrote: > Richard Hughes wrote: > >> If you don't like the direction systemd is taking then >> please install one of the BSD's and stop the discussion on this user >> list. Thanks. > > That seems a completely unreasonable and intolerant comment to me. Richard (and generally me too

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Balint Szigeti
On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100 > Balint Szigeti wrote: > > > What do you think guyes? > > I think these guys have a better plan: > > http://boycottsystemd.org/ Thank you, that is a good site. I hope head of Fedora project read it as w

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Tuesday, September 09, 2014 07:42:24 AM Rex Dieter wrote: > feel free to rehash yet again if you like. Oh! no not another 200 post thread with no purpose or end result. -- Regards, Sudhir Khanger, http://sudhirkhanger.com http://github.com/donniezazen Fingerprint: 49DD C204 6035 CD92 6949 3B

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Pál , László
> > I'm pretty sure systemd has a direct relation with chemtrails. But > basically I agree too, it is bigger and bigger every day, I can't wait the > day when vim will be part of systemd for some reasons :) > L: -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Richard Hughes
On 9 September 2014 12:34, Timothy Murphy wrote: > contrary to the whole spirit of Linux. http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/ Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code

F20: mouse cursor has 1" x 1/4" rectangle attached

2014-09-09 Thread sean darcy
On an acer latop with XFCE, the mouse cursor is trailed by a rectangle about 1/2" below and offset to the right. In Settings -> Mouse and Touchpad -> Themes I can change the size of cursor, which doesn't affect the size of the rectangle. How do I get rid of this rectangle? sean -- users mai

Re: F20: mouse cursor has 1" x 1/4" rectangle attached

2014-09-09 Thread poma
On 09.09.2014 16:13, sean darcy wrote: > On an acer latop with XFCE, the mouse cursor is trailed by a rectangle > about 1/2" below and offset to the right. > > In Settings -> Mouse and Touchpad -> Themes I can change the size of > cursor, which doesn't affect the size of the rectangle. > > How

Re: F20: mouse cursor has 1" x 1/4" rectangle attached

2014-09-09 Thread sean darcy
On 09/09/2014 11:05 AM, poma wrote: On 09.09.2014 16:13, sean darcy wrote: On an acer latop with XFCE, the mouse cursor is trailed by a rectangle about 1/2" below and offset to the right. In Settings -> Mouse and Touchpad -> Themes I can change the size of cursor, which doesn't affect the size

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Kelly Miller
Yeah, they did... and refuted every single point made there, multiple times. But people keep dragging it up, over and over again. See the topic "New Group Calls For Boycotting SystemD". On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Balint Szigeti wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrot

Re: F20: mouse cursor has 1" x 1/4" rectangle attached

2014-09-09 Thread sean darcy
On 09/09/2014 11:05 AM, poma wrote: On 09.09.2014 16:13, sean darcy wrote: On an acer latop with XFCE, the mouse cursor is trailed by a rectangle about 1/2" below and offset to the right. In Settings -> Mouse and Touchpad -> Themes I can change the size of cursor, which doesn't affect the size

Re: F20: mouse cursor has 1" x 1/4" rectangle attached

2014-09-09 Thread poma
er in use: radeon > Kernel modules: radeon > > I've installed and switched to a new cursor theme. Rectangle still there. > > sean > http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-driver-ati/2014-September/026621.html Rawhide/Fedora 22 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinf

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/08/2014 11:02 PM, Ed Greshko issued this missive: On 09/09/14 13:21, antonio montagnani wrote: 1) In a "normal" operation (but I am online by wireless card): systemctl status network.service network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) A

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-09 Thread antonio
Rick Stevens ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/09/2014 18:52: On 09/08/2014 11:02 PM, Ed Greshko issued this missive: On 09/09/14 13:21, antonio montagnani wrote: 1) In a "normal" operation (but I am online by wireless card): systemctl status network.service network.service - L

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/09/2014 09:52 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Yes. IIRC, the timeout for sendmail is five minutes. Even under systemd, if certain services are dependent on others starting properly, you can end up with some significant delays. Use "systemd-analyze blame" to find out for sure. -- users mailing lis

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/09/2014 10:00 AM, antonio wrote: I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each service to start in systemd?? systemd-analyze blame -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 9, 2014, at 11:00 AM, antonio wrote: > > I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: > any procedure to see after boot the time for each service to start in > systemd?? journalctl -b -x If you need more verbosity than that (it's quite a bit so I'd try t

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 9, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/09/2014 10:00 AM, antonio wrote: >> >> I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going >> on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each service to start >> in systemd?? > > systemd-analyze blame Oh yeah neat

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Balint Szigeti
in that case I really don't understand why they don't listen to the community? On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 11:18 -0400, Kelly Miller wrote: > Yeah, they did... and refuted every single point made there, multiple > times. But people keep dragging it up, over and over again. See the > topic "New Group C

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Balint Szigeti wrote: > in that case I really don't understand why they don't listen to the > community? > If you accuse a development community of having some giant impossible conspiracy, it makes them just a little bit wary of considering you a representative vo

Virtualbox size -

2014-09-09 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
Virtual box seems to work ok but it only produces a 12 inch window on this 23 inch monitor and after extensive googling I have not found a way to make it bigger. Perhaps someone can tell me how? Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-20/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list user

Re: Virtualbox size -

2014-09-09 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 04:38:23PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > Virtual box seems to work ok but it only produces a 12 inch window > on this 23 inch monitor and after extensive googling I have not > found a way to make it bigger. > > Perhaps someone can tell me how? > > B

Re: Virtualbox size -

2014-09-09 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/09/14 16:42, Fred Smith wrote: Did you install the "Guest Additions" ? with that installed you should be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. without it you'll get only certain standard (low) resolutions. No, that sounds like something I might find in yum? I'

Re: Smart Media Player Network Access in Fedora 20

2014-09-09 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi Rick/Patric, Thankyou for your responses. I probably need some more assistance on these. I have minidlna installed already but haven't been able to figure out how to use it. I have also been told that XBMC to XBMC streaming is not a godd idea, how valid is that? Also, like Mi

Still missing something on vlan - F19

2014-09-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many arm SOC), so I don't suspect that as an issue. cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules # Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'. SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="02:c4:03:82:c1

Re: Virtualbox size -

2014-09-09 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/09/2014 03:46 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > On 09/09/14 16:42, Fred Smith wrote: >> Did you install the "Guest Additions" ? with that installed you should >> be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. without >> it you'll get only certain standard

Re: Virtualbox size -

2014-09-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/09/2014 03:46 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > On 09/09/14 16:42, Fred Smith wrote: >> Did you install the "Guest Additions" ? with that installed you should >> be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. >> without >> it you'll get only certain standa

Re: Still missing something on vlan - F19

2014-09-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/09/2014 02:11 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many arm SOC), so I don't suspect that as an issue. cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules # Added by 'write_udev' for detected device 'eth0'. SUBSYSTEM=="net",

Re: Smart Media Player Network Access in Fedora 20

2014-09-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/09/2014 01:56 PM, Stephen Morris issued this missive: Hi Rick/Patric, Thankyou for your responses. I probably need some more assistance on these. I have minidlna installed already but haven't been able to figure out how to use it. I have also been told that XBMC to XBMC strea

Re: Smart Media Player Network Access in Fedora 20

2014-09-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 06:56 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > Thankyou for your responses. I probably need some more > assistance > on these. > I have minidlna installed already but haven't been able to > figure > out how to use it. > I have also been told that XBMC to XBMC streaming

Re: Smart Media Player Network Access in Fedora 20

2014-09-09 Thread poma
On 08.09.2014 22:43, Stephen Morris wrote: > Hi, > I was given a Smart Media Player for fathers day, which I have > connected to my TV via HDMI. When I power it on and it establishes its > wireless connection to my router, ... What actual device "Smart Media Player" is? What vendor, the ful

Re: Still missing something on vlan - F19

2014-09-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 09/09/2014 05:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 09/09/2014 02:11 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many arm SOC), so I don't suspect that as an issue. cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules # Added by 'write_udev'

Re: Still missing something on vlan - F19

2014-09-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/09/2014 03:43 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: On 09/09/2014 05:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 09/09/2014 02:11 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many arm SOC), so I don't suspect that as an issue. cat /et

Re: is it the future?

2014-09-09 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 11:18:06 -0400 Kelly Miller wrote: > Yeah, they did... and refuted every single point made there, multiple > times. Can you point out a place where those refutes can be found? I want to see how one goes about refuting an objective statement. -- //Wegge -- users mailing l

Sound not working after a freeze and hard reboot

2014-09-09 Thread Someone
My sound has abruptly stopped working several times in the past, and at some point somebody on here suggested I try running the command "alsactl init", which fixed the issue both presently and for each subsequent sound breakage. However, this time it isn't working. I've confirmed that none of the s

Re: Still missing something on vlan - F19

2014-09-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 09/09/2014 06:57 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 09/09/2014 03:43 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: On 09/09/2014 05:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 09/09/2014 02:11 PM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: I am working on a system that has a stable MACaddr (an issue with many arm SOC),

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-09 Thread antonio
Chris Murphy ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/09/2014 19:25: On Sep 9, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/09/2014 10:00 AM, antonio wrote: I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each se

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-09 Thread antonio
Chris Murphy ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/09/2014 19:25: On Sep 9, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/09/2014 10:00 AM, antonio wrote: I think that next time I will wait a longer time, and see what is going on: any procedure to see after boot the time for each se

Re: One of my systems stalls at start-up

2014-09-09 Thread antonio
Rick Stevens ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/09/2014 18:52: On 09/08/2014 11:02 PM, Ed Greshko issued this missive: On 09/09/14 13:21, antonio montagnani wrote: 1) In a "normal" operation (but I am online by wireless card): systemctl status network.service network.service - L