On 07/06/2014 03:17 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Ed Greshko writes:
Hilarity ensues.
Any plans to bugzilla your issue? It should be fun to follow.
Well, I thought about this. For about 30 seconds.
I'm going to say something controversial now. It'll likely send some flames
my way; and my et
Just found weirdo action. i connect my olympus camera into computer.
Nothing happens, but I can find "unknown" in filemanager. Now try to
open it, I get response, that need to be root, to mount camera into
system What? Earlier I could mount it as a normal user...
What has happened, not using se
On 06.07.2014 10:19, jarmo wrote:
Just found weirdo action. i connect my olympus camera into computer.
Nothing happens, but I can find "unknown" in filemanager. Now try to
open it, I get response, that need to be root, to mount camera into
system What? Earlier I could mount it as a normal use
Kevin Fenzi writes:
> Is it an improvement over upstart/sysvinit? I would say absolutely so.
Where is the improvement? Systemd is extremely cryptic, complicated and
obfuscating. Not even the configuration files are where they belong.
If it's true what's said on the links the OP provided, sys
"Garry T. Williams" writes:
> The analogy is placing a script in /etc/init.d and then linking its
> name in the /etc/rc5.d directory.
>
> I find this much simpler than the sysvinit schemes.
You have taken well over 100 lines to give a description about how to
get a daemon started with systemd, n
Tom Horsley writes:
> On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:56:09 -0600
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
>> With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to query.
>
> With journald all output is saved in a binary format file that
> is impossible to query when examining a crashed system because
> is is always corrup
Glenn Holmer writes:
> On 07/05/2014 06:21 PM, Tim wrote:
>> Allegedly, on or about 05 July 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
>> The old system was considered bad, because it had 6 run levels, of which
>> a few of them were never used. Now we have 12?
>
> Twelve different types of *units*, of whic
Kevin Fenzi writes:
> output. With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to query.
How do you query this output? I just look at the logfile, and when it's
not there, I never see it. What's the advantage of hiding output like
that?
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David Benfell writes:
> Kevin Fenzi writes:
> pulseaudio, which I leave alone right up to the moment I have
> problems--any problems--with sound, and then eliminate as a usually
> successful first stab at a solution.
How do you eliminate pulseaudio on Fedora? It doesn't do anything but
get in t
Tim writes:
> I tend to agree regarding things like resolution. Screen dimensions and
> resolutions are fixed entities, and should be set to exactly match the
> hardware involved.
Many people still don't see it that way. And in a way, they are right:
Nobody prevents you to use 800x600 on a dis
Timothy Murphy writes:
> Garry T. Williams wrote:
>
>>> I know there are rare cases where one has to say something
>>> else, but why not make the default to add ".service" if nothing is given?
>>> Or perhaps TAB could complete it?
>>
>> Have you actually tried a tab?
>
> Mea colpa.
> It never oc
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Sorry if this is top-posted...
I assume one would just uninstall the packages. But I haven't tried on Fedora
as my Fedora box is a server on a rack located a long ways away. I don't use
sound on it.
What I have occasionally seen with this operati
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I think mainly that you don't need logrotate. journald takes care of it
automatically.
On July 6, 2014 12:52:24 AM MST, lee wrote:
>Kevin Fenzi writes:
>
>> output. With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to query.
>
>
>How do you que
On 07/06/2014 12:43 AM, lee wrote:
Not even the configuration files are where they belong.
Actually, they're exactly where they belong. They just aren't where you
expect them to be.
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On Sunday, July 06, 2014 07:29:38 AM poma wrote:
> By the way, what is 'chkconfig', anyway.
It sets or lists services in the old system,
eg "chkconfig crond on" or "chkconfig --list".
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Tim:
>> I tend to agree regarding things like resolution. Screen dimensions and
>> resolutions are fixed entities, and should be set to exactly match the
>> hardware involved.
lee:
> Many people still don't see it that way. And in a way, they are right:
> Nobody prevents you to use 800x600 on a
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Theres tons and tons of things that systemd does well that there was no
> way to do in the sysvinit world.
...
> sysvinit was broken and couldn't do lots of things that modern distros
> wanted to do.
When people say "There are lots of ..." I always think
"Why don't you just t
Allegedly, on or about 06 July 2014, Ed Greshko sent:
> Both links downloaded for me. But, I had to wait maybe 5 minutes
> before they completed. Try again, just go out for some
> coffee. :-) :-)
Can't be stuffed having it waste my time to that degree. The site is a
failure.
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On 07/06/14 19:05, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 06 July 2014, Ed Greshko sent:
>> Both links downloaded for me. But, I had to wait maybe 5 minutes
>> before they completed. Try again, just go out for some
>> coffee. :-) :-)
> Can't be stuffed having it waste my time to that degree. The s
Sun, 06 Jul 2014 10:38:57 +0200
poma kirjoitti:
> $ loginctl show-session $(loginctl|grep $(whoami)|awk '{print $1}')
>
>
> poma
>
>
An what I should see there?
Again, connecting camera as ME have worked earlier, now need root
privileges..
What have changed? Linux oh1mrr.ampr.org 3.14.9-200
I usually use yum from cli so it's not a big deal for me but lately when
I've gotten the updates notification in gnome-shell, when I click "install
updates" nothing happens.
Anyone else seeing this?
Thanks,
Richard
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On 04.07.2014 23:06, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 22:58:27 +0200
lee wrote:
Huh? You can't just specify a resolution in xorg.conf anymore?
Nope. After proudly ignoring EDID for 20 years, linux switched
gears completely. Now it basically pays no attention to anything
you have to say
On Sat, 2014-07-05 at 22:07 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> The systemd(1) manual page uses the term "entity" -- not object to
> refer to units. And it says units encapsulate various objects.
> Perhaps this is the source of confusion?
The word "entity" is not used anywhere in the systemd(1) man
On 06.07.2014 15:09, poma wrote:
On 04.07.2014 23:06, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 22:58:27 +0200
lee wrote:
Huh? You can't just specify a resolution in xorg.conf anymore?
Nope. After proudly ignoring EDID for 20 years, linux switched
gears completely. Now it basically pays no att
On 06.07.2014 15:21, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2014-07-05 at 22:07 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
The systemd(1) manual page uses the term "entity" -- not object to
refer to units. And it says units encapsulate various objects.
Perhaps this is the source of confusion?
The word "enti
On 07/06/2014 03:53 AM, lee wrote:
> Glenn Holmer writes:
>
>> On 07/05/2014 06:21 PM, Tim wrote:
>>> Allegedly, on or about 05 July 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
>>> The old system was considered bad, because it had 6 run levels, of which
>>> a few of them were never used. Now we have 12?
>>
On Sat, Jul 05, 2014 at 09:34:32PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
> Garry T. Williams writes:
>
> >On 7-5-14 22:07:17 Garry T. Williams wrote:
> >>whenever systemd determines that the multi-user Target is its
> >>objective. This corresponds to what we used to call system level 2.
> >
> >Heh. How qu
On 06.07.2014 16:04, Suvayu Ali wrote:
On Sat, Jul 05, 2014 at 09:34:32PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
Garry T. Williams writes:
On 7-5-14 22:07:17 Garry T. Williams wrote:
whenever systemd determines that the multi-user Target is its
objective. This corresponds to what we used to call system
On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 15:32 +0200, poma wrote:
> > I repeat that I am not attacking systemd here, I'm criticizing the
> way
> > it's described. It may seem perfectly clear to those who already
> > understand it, but it's not at all clear to those who are used to
> > something different.
> >
> > poc
On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 06:27:17 +0100
Balint Szigeti wrote:
>
> but is it impossible to configure systemd to save logfile into text
> files instead of journal file?
> or we should have syslog service (i.e. rsyslog) for this
yes, you can run rsyslog and gateway all the messages to it.
kevin
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 09:52:24 +0200
lee wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi writes:
>
> > output. With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to
> > query.
>
> How do you query this output? I just look at the logfile, and when
> it's not there, I never see it. What's the advantage of hiding
> outpu
On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 09:48:04 +0200
lee wrote:
> David Benfell writes:
>
> > Kevin Fenzi writes:
> > pulseaudio, which I leave alone right up to the moment I have
> > problems--any problems--with sound, and then eliminate as a usually
> > successful first stab at a solution.
Pretty please fix y
[Solved]
I had my booting system into multi-user. Started XFCE from command
line..
Now somehow XFCE couldn't do mounting without root privileges.
I changed boot direct into graphical.target, so now I get medias
mounted without root privileges..
Sorry for noise, should check better my system and
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 04:16:35PM +0200, poma wrote:
> On 06.07.2014 16:04, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> >On Sat, Jul 05, 2014 at 09:34:32PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
> >>Garry T. Williams writes:
> >>
> >>>On 7-5-14 22:07:17 Garry T. Williams wrote:
> whenever systemd determines that the multi-user
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 18:37:03 +0200
Suvayu Ali wrote:
> Actually by regular user I meant anyone who is not a developer. I am
> myself an enthusiast/admin(for my home systems), and I find systemd docs
> very hard to follow.
Me too, but every time I need to spend an hour discovering
some systemd fea
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I'm an old Unix hand so for me the man page *is* the reference in most
cases, though for something as large and complex as systemd I have no
issue with there being supplementary material as long as I don't need to
access it just to remember a basic
jarmo writes:
> Just found weirdo action. i connect my olympus camera into computer.
> Nothing happens, but I can find "unknown" in filemanager. Now try to
> open it, I get response, that need to be root, to mount camera into
> system What? Earlier I could mount it as a normal user...
Huh?
Joe Zeff writes:
> On 07/06/2014 12:43 AM, lee wrote:
>> Not even the configuration files are where they belong.
>
> Actually, they're exactly where they belong. They just aren't where
> you expect them to be.
They belong under /etc, not hidden somewhere in /var.
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Kevin Fenzi writes:
> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 09:52:24 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Kevin Fenzi writes:
>>
>> > output. With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to
>> > query.
>>
>> How do you query this output? I just look at the logfile, and when
>> it's not there, I never see it. What
Kevin Fenzi writes:
> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 09:48:04 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> David Benfell writes:
>>
>> > Kevin Fenzi writes:
>> > pulseaudio, which I leave alone right up to the moment I have
>> > problems--any problems--with sound, and then eliminate as a usually
>> > successful first stab at
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
> On Sat, 2014-07-05 at 22:07 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
>> The systemd(1) manual page uses the term "entity" -- not object to
>> refer to units. And it says units encapsulate various objects.
>> Perhaps this is the source of confusion?
>
> The word "entity" is n
Glenn Holmer writes:
> On 07/06/2014 03:53 AM, lee wrote:
>> Glenn Holmer writes:
>>
>>> On 07/05/2014 06:21 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 05 July 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
The old system was considered bad, because it had 6 run levels, of which
a few of them were n
Tim writes:
> Tim:
>>> I tend to agree regarding things like resolution. Screen dimensions and
>>> resolutions are fixed entities, and should be set to exactly match the
>>> hardware involved.
>
> lee:
>> Many people still don't see it that way. And in a way, they are right:
>> Nobody prevents
On 07/06/2014 11:52 AM, lee wrote:
> I don't want to read the documentation.
I rest my case.
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 18:18:46 +0200
lee wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi writes:
>
> > On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 09:52:24 +0200
> > lee wrote:
> >
> >> Kevin Fenzi writes:
> >>
> >> > output. With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to
> >> > query.
> >>
> >> How do you query this output? I just
On 06/07/14 18:44, lee wrote:
Kevin Fenzi writes:
[...]
yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
used to do it. It would still be installed, but not loaded/used.
Hm, yes, I could actually remove it without removing anything else,
thank you! Finally!
Now I even have hardware mixing and no stupi
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, lee wrote:
Joe Zeff writes:
On 07/06/2014 12:43 AM, lee wrote:
Not even the configuration files are where they belong.
Actually, they're exactly where they belong. They just aren't where
you expect them to be.
They belong under /etc, not hidden somewhere in /var.
C
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 13:25:42 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, lee wrote:
>
> > Joe Zeff writes:
> >
> >> On 07/06/2014 12:43 AM, lee wrote:
> >>> Not even the configuration files are where they belong.
> >>
> >> Actually, they're exactly where they belong. They just are
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
The term "object" is used twice. Once is in reference to "file system
objects" which I assume has the usual meaning. The other is in "Units
encapsulate various objects that are relevant for system boot-up and
maintenance".
Sorry, even your attempt to parse this (and
poma writes:
You can propose your terminology.
You're asking him to do Poettering's technical writing when he isn't even
sure he understands Poettering correctly.
Not only is that an imposition, it's an unfair one.
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Glenn Holmer writes:
systemd is broken because you don't like the terms it uses? Really?
"Target" makes perfect sense: to reach a certain target, enable the
units in its list.
This kind of argumentation does not help the case for systemd.
'Broken' might be the wrong word. But if the documenta
On 07/06/2014 01:01 PM, David Benfell wrote:
*What*, for example, is "the usual meaning" of "file system objects?" A
file? Why not just say "file?" And if the documentation really means
files or pipes or devices, then why not say "files or pipes or devices?"
I'm only guessing, but it looks to m
On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 13:22:56 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> One
> wonders what would happen if somebody would open a bugzilla on the man
> page claiming that it's impossible to understand, especially if there
> were a number of comments by other "mere users" complaining about the
> exact same thing.
Kevin Fenzi writes:
How do you query this output? I just look at the logfile, and when
it's not there, I never see it. What's the advantage of hiding
output like that?
journalctl -u servicename
In all the times I've looked at the man pages for journalctl, I've never
noticed this. Instea
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 04:34:35PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 13:22:56 -0700
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> > One
> > wonders what would happen if somebody would open a bugzilla on the man
> > page claiming that it's impossible to understand, especially if there
> > were a number of
Kevin Fenzi writes:
journalctl | grep whatever
or
journalctl | less
and page though things?
In my experience, this is really, really slow. To make it reasonably
responsive you have to tune the journal accumulation so tightly that you
are pretty much sacrificing any history at all.
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On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 01:34:24PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
> Poettering reminds me of a teenager who thinks the world would be
> perfect if everybody just did things his (gender-biased language
> *might* be appropriate here) way. The difference is that
> distributions are giving Poettering his
On 07/06/2014 01:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
Why do you wonder? It would be immediately closed as "too vague" and
not documenting a specific error, perhaps with an additional comment
about "patches welcome".
So open a bugzilla listing specific problems with the man page, such as
using terms that
Olav Vitters writes:
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 01:34:24PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
Poettering reminds me of a teenager who thinks the world would be
perfect if everybody just did things his (gender-biased language
*might* be appropriate here) way. The difference is that
distributions are givin
David Benfell writes:
Systemd needs to be a vast improvement to justify this. And it seems that
not everyone even agrees that it's an improvement at all.
Here's something that I can't figure out: with this entire thread in mind,
why is all of this is being said /now/???
What happened?
I
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 13:25:42 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, lee wrote:
Joe Zeff writes:
On 07/06/2014 12:43 AM, lee wrote:
Not even the configuration files are where they belong.
Actually, they're exactly where they belong
Sam Varshavchik writes:
David Benfell writes:
Systemd needs to be a vast improvement to justify this. And it seems that
not everyone even agrees that it's an improvement at all.
Here's something that I can't figure out: with this entire thread in mind,
why is all of this is being said /no
On 07/03/2014 11:31 AM, Mike Wright wrote:
07/02/2014 06:10 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 07/02/2014 03:22 PM, Stephen Morris issued this missive:
On 07/02/2014 08:29 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/02/14 05:45, Stephen Morris wrote:
I'm using Thunderbird which like Ed's is configured to send
On 07/06/2014 03:16 PM, David Benfell wrote:
> This is what is known as intellectual bullying. It excuses you from
> having to explain by blaming the other fellow for not understanding.
Did you read my original reply (to Tim) where I tried to explain it and
included links? That's about how I descr
Michael Hennebry writes:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
What systemd config files are under /var?
I don't know. I thought lee did.
Poking around the only thing I see here is /var/service, which I'm not even
sure is systemd, but which, at least on Fedora, is a symbolic link back
I am looking for a simple amplifer program.
I have looked at audacity, but I would have to be 'recording' to get
'playthrough'. There is supposedly a .vst plugin, but I have not found
it yet.
This is for my wife to be able to have a simple amp (using my little
Asus Eee900) for when she is p
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 02:23:44PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
> Olav Vitters writes:
>
> >On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 01:34:24PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
> >>Poettering reminds me of a teenager who thinks the world would be
> >>perfect if everybody just did things his (gender-biased language
> >>*
Currently, I have a project that I build on Fedora systems that uses syslinux
to boot from CD or USB. I've only found stuff that mentions Ubuntu, Arch,
and some other distro on building EFI option, but even then it is talking about
patched versions. Lots of info on installing it to a hard disk,
lee wrote:
>Kevin Fenzi writes:
>pulseaudio, which I leave alone right up to the moment I have
>problems--any problems--with sound, and then eliminate as a usually
>successful first stab at a solution.
How do you eliminate pulseaudio on Fedora? It doesn't do anything but
get in the way.
You
On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 12:49 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 18:37:03 +0200
> Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
> > Actually by regular user I meant anyone who is not a developer. I am
> > myself an enthusiast/admin(for my home systems), and I find systemd docs
> > very hard to follow.
>
> Me to
On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 13:01 -0700, David Benfell wrote:
> *What*, for example, is "the usual meaning" of "file system objects?"
> A
> file? Why not just say "file?" And if the documentation really means
> files
> or pipes or devices, then why not say "files or pipes or devices?"
I assume it me
On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 13:22 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I'm only guessing, but it looks to me like the documentation was
> written
> by developers with poor writing skills, and approved by other
> developers
> who knew what the first ones meant.
I guess that's what I was trying to say, so +1
poc
On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 23:28:22 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Perhaps you can do us all a favour and publish your notes :-)
I'm sure they are just as cryptic as everything else, but
they are cryptic in a way I can understand :-). It would
also be hard to separate out just the systemd stuff.
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On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 16:48 -0500, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> And for those who find the official
> documentation too difficult, there are plenty of blogs and articles
> out
> there that explain it more plainly. I know, I had to dig through them
> to
> do that presentation.
So could you explain to us a
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On July 6, 2014 3:16:43 PM PDT, Olav Vitters wrote:
>On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 02:23:44PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
>> Olav Vitters writes:
>>
>> >On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 01:34:24PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
>> >>Poettering reminds me of a teenage
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I am looking for a simple amplifer program.
>
> I have looked at audacity, but I would have to be 'recording' to get
> 'playthrough'. There is supposedly a .vst plugin, but I have not found it
> yet.
>
> This is for my wife to be able to h
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, David Benfell wrote:
So in your view, I have no right to object to his behavior but you have a right
to object to my objection?
Something ain't right there.
Some things are above criticism. It's important that you know your place.
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On 07/07/14 11:24, David Benfell wrote:
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On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 02:23:44PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
Olav Vitters writes:
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 01:34:24PM -0700, David Benfell wrote:
Poe
On 7-6-14 10:39:11 lee wrote:
> "Garry T. Williams" writes:
> > The analogy is placing a script in /etc/init.d and then linking
> > its name in the /etc/rc5.d directory.
> >
> > I find this much simpler than the sysvinit schemes.
>
> You have taken well over 100 lines to give a description about h
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On 07/07/14 07:24, David Benfell wrote:
> So in your view, I have no right to object to his behavior but you have a
> right to object to my objection?
>
> Something ain't right there.
Usually, 99% of the time?, objections to a person's behavior is a
On 7-6-14 14:21:05 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> different types". So apparently entity==unit.
No, the manual page clearly states that a Unit *is a* entity. That is
not an identity relationship. Think class and subclass.
I was just trying to find the cause of the confusion.
Actually, I am done
Bill Oliver writes:
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, David Benfell wrote:
So in your view, I have no right to object to his behavior but you have a right
to object to my objection?
Something ain't right there.
Some things are above criticism. It's important that you know your place.
;-)
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Rolf Turner writes:
The difference is that Olav is polite and you are abusive.
If you regard what I say as abusive, then you should, perhaps, be
challenging this entire thread, which impugns the motivations, not only of
Mr. Poettering, not only of the Fedora development team, but of every
Ed Greshko writes:
Usually, 99% of the time?, objections to a person's behavior is a direct
result of exchanges on this list. I can't recall another instance where
someone has taken issue with another who isn't on the list to defend himself.
It seems to me that his work is a very loud voi
On Jul 6, 2014, at 5:33 PM, David Benfell wrote:
> Rolf Turner writes:
>>
>> The difference is that Olav is polite and you are abusive.
>
> If you regard what I say as abusive, then you should, perhaps, be challenging
> this entire thread, which impugns the motivations, not only of Mr.
> Poe
On 07/06/2014 06:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am looking for a simple amplifer program.
I have looked at audacity, but I would have to be 'recording' to get
'playthrough'. There is supposedly a .vst plugin, but I have not
found it yet.
This is for my wife to be able to have a simple am
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On 07/07/14 08:38, David Benfell wrote:
> Ed Greshko writes:
>>
>> Usually, 99% of the time?, objections to a person's behavior is a direct
>> result of exchanges on this list. I can't recall another instance where
>> someone has taken issue with a
On 07/06/2014 08:45 PM, Doug wrote:
On 07/06/2014 06:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am looking for a simple amplifer program.
I have looked at audacity, but I would have to be 'recording' to get
'playthrough'. There is supposedly a .vst plugin, but I have not
found it yet.
This is for
Russell Miller writes:
I regard what you say as abusive because you are using the accusation of
mental illness as a weapon. That is intolerable.
I agree. It is intolerable.
For the record, I never accused anyone of mental illness and I am not
qualified to offer diagnoses. I only remarked
Just wondering if there is anything like the virt preview repo
for the latest bits of X11, mesa, etc? (I suspect the answer
is "no", but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask :-).
I ask because the 4K monitor I just got working stopped
working again following an update that dragged in some bits
of mes
On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, David Benfell wrote:
Russell Miller writes:
>
I regard what you say as abusive because you are using the accusation of
mental illness as a weapon. That is intolerable.
I agree. It is intolerable.
For the record, I never accused anyone of mental illness and I am not
qua
On 06.07.2014 18:03, jarmo wrote:
[Solved]
I had my booting system into multi-user. Started XFCE from command
line..
Now somehow XFCE couldn't do mounting without root privileges.
I changed boot direct into graphical.target, so now I get medias
mounted without root privileges..
Sorry for noise,
On 06.07.2014 16:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 15:32 +0200, poma wrote:
I repeat that I am not attacking systemd here, I'm criticizing the
way
it's described. It may seem perfectly clear to those who already
understand it, but it's not at all clear to those who are used
>>> If Mr. Poettering objects to such analysis, he should stop
performing it on those who disagree with him.
Bullshit, he hasn't done anything to you personally. There is no reason
to behave like you're doing here.
So in your view, I have no right to object to his behavior but you have a ri
On 07/06/2014 08:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/06/2014 08:45 PM, Doug wrote:
On 07/06/2014 06:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am looking for a simple amplifer program.
I have looked at audacity, but I would have to be 'recording' to get
'playthrough'. There is supposedly a .vst pl
On 06.07.2014 22:12, David Benfell wrote:
poma writes:
You can propose your terminology.
You're asking him to do Poettering's technical writing when he isn't even
sure he understands Poettering correctly.
Not only is that an imposition, it's an unfair one.
Thanks, but no thanks.
Actually
Mon, 07 Jul 2014 03:52:36 +0200
poma kirjoitti:
> You did not quite understand when I asked you to paste the command[1]
> output here, i.e.
> [1] $ loginctl show-session $(loginctl|grep $(whoami)|awk '{print
> $1}')
>
> However it seems that your case is the same as Bob's,
> "gphoto2 only as roo
On 07.07.2014 04:47, Doug wrote:
...
there are a couple of simple
things to try: get some snap-on ferrite shield beads. They cost about
$2-3 each. put one or two around the AC poser cord right where it enters
the amplifier chassis.
...
Heooo
I appreciate your audio fidelia, but you are in t
On 07/06/2014 10:47 PM, Doug wrote:
On 07/06/2014 08:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/06/2014 08:45 PM, Doug wrote:
On 07/06/2014 06:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am looking for a simple amplifer program.
I have looked at audacity, but I would have to be 'recording' to
get 'playth
On 07/06/2014 11:21 PM, poma wrote:
On 07.07.2014 04:47, Doug wrote:
...
there are a couple of simple
things to try: get some snap-on ferrite shield beads. They cost about
$2-3 each. put one or two around the AC poser cord right where it enters
the amplifier chassis.
...
Heooo
I appreciat
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