Re: systemctl restart network, VMs and suspend

2014-06-07 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 30.05.2014 10:06, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: Hello, I already filed a bugzilla issue with this [1] but I'd like to know if anybody else has troubles with VMs' network after suspend. And if others are able to do a "systemctl restart network" successfully. I mean, am I an isolated case becau

Fedora 20 minimal install: default user directory oddity

2014-06-07 Thread Noah Cutler
Hey all. I fedup'd from F18 to 20 a couple of weeks ago (suprisingly smooth process) but decided to blow it all away in favor of a F20 minimal install as I am "fed up" with Gnome ;-) So, here we are on a minimal install with no DM or DE, just i3wm with agetty --auto-login as a quick & dirty autol

Joining the modern era: Xinerama to XRandR

2014-06-07 Thread Noah Cutler
Got RandR setup in place here with a 3 monitor setup, but have hit a sticky wicket relative to previous Xinerama setup (which I have reverted to until I find a suitable workaround). With Xinerama we can stich together separate X screens under a single large display. This allows me to use my monito

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Sudhir Khanger wrote: >> The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're > wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have > got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a very > short and simple survey. Let your opinion be heard!

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 13:08:42 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Why not "Vote for yum vs dnf"? What exactly is wrong with yum? For one thing the depsolving algorithm used by yum is slow. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 07:47:37 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > For one thing the depsolving algorithm used by yum is slow. Not so an ordinary human could notice it compared (for example) to the time it takes to rebuild the rpms from the deltas. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 08:57:33 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 07:47:37 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: For one thing the depsolving algorithm used by yum is slow. Not so an ordinary human could notice it compared (for example) to the time it takes to rebuild the rpms from the d

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Not so an ordinary human could notice it compared (for > example) to the time it takes to rebuild the rpms > from the deltas. > ... which happens to be another thing dnf fixes Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> For one thing the depsolving algorithm used by yum is slow. >> >>Not so an ordinary human could notice it compared (for >>example) to the time it takes to rebuild the rpms >>from the deltas. > > That depends on how much stuff you update at once. Try updating 6000 > pack

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 06/07/14 09:08, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: Not so an ordinary human could notice it compared (for example) to the time it takes to rebuild the rpms from the deltas. ... which happens to be another thing dnf fixes Rahul Those

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA > Those of us who have to consider "usage" are willing to wait for the rpm rebuilding >process Don't think you can speak for all of us. I don't prefer to wait at all and want the process to go as fast as it can. I have to de

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Steven Stern
On 06/06/2014 07:46 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > Hello, > > The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're > wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they > have got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a > very short and simple

Re: systemctl restart network, VMs and suspend

2014-06-07 Thread fedora
On 2014-06-07 12:24, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 30.05.2014 10:06, Aleksandar Kostadinov wrote: Hello, I already filed a bugzilla issue with this [1] but I'd like to know if anybody else has troubles with VMs' network after suspend. And if others are able to do a "systemctl restart network

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Rex Dieter
Tom Horsley wrote: > Can we vote for features we want removed, like multilib that's not a yum feature, but a distribution-wide one. -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users F

Re: REALLY quiting skype

2014-06-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 June 2014, Robert Moskowitz sent: > So I have Skype on a f20 i686 system and actually USED it for a > business call. I then quited Skype. > > But later I was looking into some things on the system and found that > Skype still had a process running. I could not find it

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I don't prefer to wait at all and > want the process to go as fast as it can. I have to deal with many more > updates as a package maintainer and slowing me down will reduce the amount > of time I can spend getting users the updates they want. So it likely > affects you

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > For me, the essential properties of yum are simplicity and reliability. > Speed is not that important, > Sure but if you can get better speed without sacrificing the things you care about (since dnf essentially has the same command lin

Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!

2014-06-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/06/14 20:46, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're > wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have > got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a very short > and simple survey. Let yo

Trying do get F20 up

2014-06-07 Thread don fisher
All of the configuration files have changed from my previous version (I think it is F17). Is there documentation on how to set up acpi? Is there documentation of all of these other changes? I am command line orientated and have trouble finding where things are. Pleases help a non-windows orient

Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-07 Thread Doug
Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system (Windows 8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition. Got up past setting passwords for root and user. Then it crashed with the following message: *** The following error occurred whil ins

Re: Trying do get F20 up

2014-06-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/08/14 10:15, don fisher wrote: > All of the configuration files have changed from my previous version (I think > it is F17). Is there documentation on how to set up acpi? Is there > documentation of all of these other changes? I am command line orientated and > have trouble finding where t

Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-07 Thread Pete Travis
On Jun 7, 2014 9:01 PM, "Doug" wrote: > > Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system (Windows 8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition. > Got up past setting passwords for root and user. Then it crashed with the following message: > > *

Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-07 Thread Roger
On 06/08/2014 03:21 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Jun 7, 2014 9:01 PM, "Doug" > wrote: > > Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system (Windows 8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition. > Got up past setting passwords for root and