Re: Fedora 20 & Apple thunderbolt monitor - it just works!!!

2014-03-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 08:51:58PM -0600, CS_DBA wrote: > > I suspected that I'd have to kick the 27" Apple thunderbolt display to the > curb along with my macbook pro retina since I got Fedore running on the > macbook pro from a usb stick and the resolution caused all my icons & fonts > to be so

Re: Cisco WebEx on Fedora20

2014-03-27 Thread Pal, Laszlo
This is not really that solution I'm looking for, but maybe you are right and an Ubuntu VM eats less than my win7 guest :)) Any other idea? Thanks Laszlo On 26 March 2014 20:57, Mark Haney wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 03/26/14 15:51, Pal, Laszlo wrote: > >

Re: "Atomic"?? (was Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-25))

2014-03-27 Thread poma
On 26.03.2014 21:40, Matthew Miller wrote: > Old mossbacks should know this one, especially if they have database or > filesystem experience. An atomic transaction is one which can be safely > considered as a single event, and a) failure puts you back as if it didn't > happen and b) it is impossib

Re: the "separate /usr" subthread

2014-03-27 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > That ain't nuttin'. We started with an 11/45 with 48KB of core memory > and 2 RK05's (2.2MB removable cartridge disks). When I was young, we didn't have no computers. We used pencil and paper, and we were grateful. ;-) -- [tim@

Re: Fedora 20 & Apple thunderbolt monitor - it just works!!!

2014-03-27 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 27 March 2014, Suvayu Ali sent: > I think you can fix this by configuring your fonts to be higher dpi > (on XFCE I can do this in Settings >> Appearance >> Fonts). With the > fonts bigger, I think your desktop environment will choose bigger > icons automatically. Futzing t

Re: Fedora 20 & Apple thunderbolt monitor - it just works!!!

2014-03-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tim said: > Allegedly, on or about 27 March 2014, Suvayu Ali sent: > > I think you can fix this by configuring your fonts to be higher dpi > > (on XFCE I can do this in Settings >> Appearance >> Fonts). With the > > fonts bigger, I think your desktop environment will choose bigg

IPv6 mtu restriction

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
This is from a Fedora 20 client testing to a Centos 6.5 server. I can do a ping6 with no problems, but I cannot 'ssh -6' to the server (ssh -4 works). I have reason to suspect the challenge is in my PPPoE link with a restricted MTU size that v6's PMTU is not working right with. So my questio

Re: Fedora 20 & Apple thunderbolt monitor - it just works!!!

2014-03-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:33:12AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > - A single DPI setting is really not correct, as multi-display setups > can be different size, resolution, etc. Also, notebooks switching > from internal display to external (even if both aren't active at the > same time) can

Re: the "separate /usr" subthread

2014-03-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 02:40 +1030, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 26 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > That ain't nuttin'. We started with an 11/45 with 48KB of core > memory > > and 2 RK05's (2.2MB removable cartridge disks). > > When I was young, we didn't have no computers. We use

Sloved - Re: IPv6 mtu restriction

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 03/27/2014 12:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: This is from a Fedora 20 client testing to a Centos 6.5 server. I can do a ping6 with no problems, but I cannot 'ssh -6' to the server (ssh -4 works). I have reason to suspect the challenge is in my PPPoE link with a restricted MTU size that v6

Re: IPv6 mtu restriction

2014-03-27 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/27/2014 09:50 AM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: This is from a Fedora 20 client testing to a Centos 6.5 server. I can do a ping6 with no problems, but I cannot 'ssh -6' to the server (ssh -4 works). I have reason to suspect the challenge is in my PPPoE link with a restricted MTU s

Re: Sloved - Re: IPv6 mtu restriction

2014-03-27 Thread poma
On 27.03.2014 20:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 03/27/2014 12:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> This is from a Fedora 20 client testing to a Centos 6.5 server. >> >> I can do a ping6 with no problems, but I cannot 'ssh -6' to the server >> (ssh -4 works). I have reason to suspect the challen

Re: the "separate /usr" subthread

2014-03-27 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/27/2014 09:10 AM, Tim issued this missive: Allegedly, on or about 26 March 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: That ain't nuttin'. We started with an 11/45 with 48KB of core memory and 2 RK05's (2.2MB removable cartridge disks). When I was young, we didn't have no computers. We used pencil

Re: Sloved - Re: IPv6 mtu restriction

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 03/27/2014 03:40 PM, poma wrote: On 27.03.2014 20:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 03/27/2014 12:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: This is from a Fedora 20 client testing to a Centos 6.5 server. I can do a ping6 with no problems, but I cannot 'ssh -6' to the server (ssh -4 works). I have reaso

Re: IPv6 mtu restriction

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 03/27/2014 03:40 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/27/2014 09:50 AM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: This is from a Fedora 20 client testing to a Centos 6.5 server. I can do a ping6 with no problems, but I cannot 'ssh -6' to the server (ssh -4 works). I have reason to suspect the challen

Re: Solved - Re: IPv6 mtu restriction - stupid firewall rules

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Just 'forgot' which vlan this server was on internally, so I set the rules on the wrong vlan. Well back to your regularly programmed... On 03/27/2014 03:55 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 03/27/2014 03:40 PM, poma wrote: On 27.03.2014 20:35, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 03/27/2014 12:50 PM, Ro

Re: the "separate /usr" subthread

2014-03-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:43:15PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>That ain't nuttin'. We started with an 11/45 with 48KB of core memory > >>and 2 RK05's (2.2MB removable cartridge disks). > >When I was young, we didn't have no computers. We used pencil and > >paper, and we were grateful. ;-) > A

new SELinux error

2014-03-27 Thread Paul Cartwright
I am not sure what to do.. I got this error message: # semanage fcontext -a -t FILE_TYPE '$FIX_TARGET_PATH' where FILE_TYPE is one of the following: NetworkManager_log_t, NetworkManager_tmp_t, abrt_helper_exec_t, abrt_tmp_t, abrt_upload_watch_tmp_t, abrt_var_cache_t, abrt_var_log_t, abrt_var_run_t

Re: new SELinux error

2014-03-27 Thread Daniel J Walsh
What was the AVC that you got? On 03/27/2014 04:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > I am not sure what to do.. > > I got this error message: > # semanage fcontext -a -t FILE_TYPE '$FIX_TARGET_PATH' > where FILE_TYPE is one of the following: NetworkManager_log_t, > NetworkManager_tmp_t, abrt_helper_exec

Re: poweroff command reboots?

2014-03-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Aero Maxx wrote: Hi Everyone, I have an issue where the poweroff command reboots my system. Using /sbin/shutdown -h also reboot the system. If you want to powerdown the -P (powerdown) option is often useful, the -h (halt) gets to choose if it does halt or powerdown, and halt often reboots.

Re: IPv6 mtu restriction

2014-03-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 03/27/2014 03:40 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/27/2014 09:50 AM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: This is from a Fedora 20 client testing to a Centos 6.5 server. I can do a ping6 with no problems, but I cannot 'ssh -6' to the server (ssh -4 works). I have reas

Re: poweroff command reboots?

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 03/27/2014 07:18 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Aero Maxx wrote: Hi Everyone, I have an issue where the poweroff command reboots my system. Using /sbin/shutdown -h also reboot the system. If you want to powerdown the -P (powerdown) option is often useful, the -h (halt) gets to choose if it doe

Re: IPv6 mtu restriction

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 03/27/2014 07:28 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 03/27/2014 03:40 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/27/2014 09:50 AM, Robert Moskowitz issued this missive: This is from a Fedora 20 client testing to a Centos 6.5 server. I can do a ping6 with no problems, but I cannot 'ssh

Re: no default mta [was Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, “Why?”)]

2014-03-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/21/2014 10:30 AM, Matthew Miller issued this missive: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:27:02AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: If you do need to use sendmail, and your ISP is blocking Port 25, it's not that hard to configure things to use a smarthost. As an example, I have my own (v

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, “Why?”)

2014-03-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:13:28 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: Saying something "sucks" isn't very helpful. Not only is it needlessly negative, it is intangible. Name a real problem and we can talk about it. Every single aspect of it is a real problem. In the dictionary they have

Re: new SELinux error

2014-03-27 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/27/2014 05:08 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > What was the AVC that you got? > On 03/27/2014 04:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: Not sure exactly how to check. /var/log/secure has lots of entries.. I didn't write down the error message and the window is gone. where do I look ? -- Paul Cartwright R

Re: new SELinux error

2014-03-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/28/14 08:24, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 03/27/2014 05:08 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> What was the AVC that you got? >> On 03/27/2014 04:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > Not sure exactly how to check. /var/log/secure has lots of entries.. I > didn't write down the error message and the window

Re: new SELinux error

2014-03-27 Thread poma
On 28.03.2014 01:27, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/28/14 08:24, Paul Cartwright wrote: >> On 03/27/2014 05:08 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >>> What was the AVC that you got? >>> On 03/27/2014 04:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: >> Not sure exactly how to check. /var/log/secure has lots of entries.. I >> didn

Re: new SELinux error

2014-03-27 Thread Paul Cartwright
>>> Not sure exactly how to check. /var/log/secure has lots of entries.. I >>> didn't write down the error message and the window is gone. where do I >>> look ? >>> >> The AVC would be found in /var/log/audit/audit.log > "SELinux Troubleshooter" > Troubleshoot SELinux access denials > /usr/bin/se

Re: Fedora 20 & Apple thunderbolt monitor - it just works!!!

2014-03-27 Thread g
On 03/27/14 22:22, Tim wrote: <> When you mis-set the DPI, you lose the ability for applications to show "actual size" objects. Such as graphics designers, or desktop publishers, who want to design something with real-world measurements (i.e. centimeters, not pixels), and have the program sho

Very slow libre office file open/save dialogs

2014-03-27 Thread CS_DBA
Hi all; I'm running Fedora 20 and Libre Office 4.2.2.1 The file open / save dialogues are painfully slow, anyone else seen this? Is there a fix? Thanks in advance... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: Very slow libre office file open/save dialogs

2014-03-27 Thread poma
On 28.03.2014 03:29, CS_DBA wrote: > Hi all; > > I'm running Fedora 20 and Libre Office 4.2.2.1 > > The file open / save dialogues are painfully slow, anyone else seen this? > > Is there a fix? > > > Thanks in advance... > There's not a problem that you can't fix Cause you can do it in the m

Re: "Atomic"?? (was Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-25))

2014-03-27 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 27Mar2014 18:48, Max wrote: > On 03/26/2014 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > >On 26Mar2014 20:16, Beartooth wrote: > >>Can you define the new Fedora-related sense in terms > >>comprehensible to old mossbacks? How about partially or "fully-atomic"?? > >"atomic" is a very old term, even in

Re: "Atomic"?? (was Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-25))

2014-03-27 Thread Max
On 03/27/2014 11:18 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 27Mar2014 18:48, Max wrote: On 03/26/2014 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 26Mar2014 20:16, Beartooth wrote: Can you define the new Fedora-related sense in terms comprehensible to old mossbacks? How about partially or "fully-atomic

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, "Why?")

2014-03-27 Thread Robin Laing
On 2014-03-26 00:13, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/26/2014 06:45 AM, Robin Laing wrote: On 2014-03-24 08:25, Liam Proven wrote: On 23 March 2014 21:56, lee wrote: Nowadays you may have SSDs which supposedly last longer when not written much to but mostly read from, so you might put the partit

Re: Is it irrelevant what users of FOSS think? (Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, "Why?"))

2014-03-27 Thread Robin Laing
On 2014-03-26 03:12, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:14:44AM -0600, Robin Laing wrote: I would really like to see Fedora move to a constant flux where applications are developed and then pushed out as updates which are actually upgrades. It is Fedora policy to not do that:

Re: "Atomic"?? (was Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-25))

2014-03-27 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 27Mar2014 23:35, Max wrote: > On 03/27/2014 11:18 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > >1: Please reply to the list, not me. I have fixed this in my response. > I usually avoid responding to the list these days when it would be > off topic for the list. I know many of the subscribers consider off > top