Re: Is it irrelevant what users of FOSS think? (Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, "Why?"))

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:14:44AM -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > > I would really like to see Fedora move to a constant flux where applications > are developed and then pushed out as updates which are actually upgrades. It is Fedora policy to not do that:

Re: Is it irrelevant what users of FOSS think? (Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, "Why?"))

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:14:44AM -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > I would really like to see Fedora move to a constant flux where > applications are developed and then pushed out as updates which are > actually upgrades. Get to a point of not having a F19 or F20 but > just Fedora. You move from 19 t

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I,?“Why?”)

On 03/26/2014 01:32 AM, Robin Laing wrote: >> >> I`m not an expert with Fedoras installers in any way. This is simply my >> "user experience". Maybe the "user experience" the installer provides >> should be different. >> > > It is hidden. I do use it. > > If you were trying the live disk, then I

vsftpd and sebool

Hi, i setup an FTP server to allow me and my friend to upload, create, delete, modify files/directories into /var/www/html directory (as ftp home dir). however if authentification works great, i'm not able (even locally so using ftp localhost) to create a simple directory e.g. "test" here

Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I,?“Why?”)

Chris Murphy writes: > On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:41 AM, lee wrote: >> Maybe it begins with the installer messing together all the disks in >> some weird way rather than to treat them separately and just let you >> partition them the way you want to. IIRC, there wasn`t even a way to >> tell it which

Steam on Fedora

I'm not a gamer but I thought I'd check out the Steam engine on F20. This is on the RPMfusion nonfree repo and installed with no problems. However when running it I get a popup error saying: OpenGL GLX context is not using direct rendering, which may cause performance problems. For more informat

Re: Steam on Fedora

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm not a gamer but I thought I'd check out the Steam engine on F20. > This is on the RPMfusion nonfree repo and installed with no problems. > However when running it I get a popup error saying: > > OpenGL GLX context is not using direc

Re: Is it irrelevant what users of FOSS think? (Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, "Why?"))

Roger wrote: > If I were a developer thinking about improvement, speed, constant > changes in architecture and incessant increasingly aggressive system > attacks, which you and I are so sheltered from, I would not give a whit > about what users think. There are others who handle that part of the >

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

On 03/26/14 03:33, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 02:36 +0600, g wrote: and so, be prepared to hear from some gmail and cell phone users who will deny that such can easily be done, as well as replying interspersed, therefore they do not. :-) IN Gmail it's trivially easy. Hi

Re: my stupid users trick -- the Firefox issue from earlier this month.wq

On 03/26/14 12:28, Ahmad Samir wrote: <<<>>> <<>> <> -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fe

Re: Steam on Fedora

On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 08:23 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > I'm not a gamer but I thought I'd check out the Steam engine on F20. > > This is on the RPMfusion nonfree repo and installed with no problems. > > However when running it I

Re: user and groups permissions

Allegedly, on or about 25 March 2014, Rafnews sent: > i'm trying to figure out what is the best approach for files and folders > permissions in case of a shared webserver. > > we are 2-3 developers and we have a server on which we installed Fedora > 20 as web server for our development testing p

RE: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I,?“Why?”)

On Tue, 25 Mar 2014, Powell, Michael wrote: [note >>>] A non-gui installation is not something that the majority of users will choose so it's not apparent, but if you want that method, here you go: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/ ch-guimode-x86.html#idm21916

Re: Steam on Fedora

On 03/26/2014 09:17 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > For more information visit > https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9938-EYZB-7457. > > A glance at the above URL reveals that the problem is probably due to > Steam being a 32-bit binary and I only have 64-bit libraries. I'm using

Problem updating google-chrome

Updating my Fedora 19 system this morning turned up a problem...the newest version of google-chrome-unstable requires libmojo_system which apparently is not available. I posted a bug report...but anyone aware of any work-arounds ? -- 1984 was not meant as a blueprint for democratic governments.

Re: Steam on Fedora

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 04:01:34PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > To answer your question, I bet you just need to install the 32bit version > > of the nvida libraries. On my system I have: > > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-331.49-1.fc20.i686 > > I did that and it seems to have worked (at

Re: Problem updating google-chrome

On Wednesday 26 Mar 2014 13:18:47 Franklin McCormick wrote: > Updating my Fedora 19 system this morning turned up a problem...the > newest version of google-chrome-unstable requires libmojo_system which > apparently is not available. > I posted a bug report...but anyone aware of any work-arounds ?

Cisco WebEx on Fedora20

Hi, At my workplace I have to use Cisco WebEx for a lot and this is a complete pain in Fedora... it is require Oracle's Java, but it is not an issue... the big one is the total 32bit dependency... I've tried to set-up a second, 32 bit Firefox w/o success (several buttons are grey, so I still have

Re: Cisco WebEx on Fedora20

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/26/14 15:51, Pal, Laszlo wrote: > > do you have any experience with this "great" tool and how the full > funcionality can be enabled using 64 bit Fedora? > > The same tool running quite seamless under 32bit slackware and > Ubuntu Precise >

"Atomic"?? (was Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-25))

On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:31:20 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > Reposted from > http://fedoramagazine.org/five-things-in-fedora-this-week-2014-03-25/ [] > Fedora Atomic - > > Since this week has been a little slow, I’m going to cheat a bit and > pull something big from the bac

Re: the "separate /usr" subthread

Matthew Miller fedoraproject.org> writes: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 09:50:10AM -0700, Howard Howell wrote: > > > It's important to realize that you *can* have a separate /usr -- it just > > > really needs to be available at boot time. That means you can have > > > separate mount options, files

Re: "Atomic"?? (was Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-25))

On 26Mar2014 20:16, Beartooth wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:31:20 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Reposted from > > http://fedoramagazine.org/five-things-in-fedora-this-week-2014-03-25/ > [] > > Fedora Atomic - > > > > Since this week has been a little slow, I’m going to

Re: "Atomic"?? (was Re: Five Things in Fedora This Week (2014-03-25))

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 08:16:04PM +, Beartooth wrote: > > pull something big from the backlog. Fedora developer Colin Walters has > > launched a new project called Fedora Atomic. This system constructs > > git-like trees from existing official Fedora RPMs, and moves > > operating-system deploy

Re: the "separate /usr" subthread

David G. Miller wrote: > The funny thing is that back in the earliest days of Unix, /usr is where > user directories lived. When K&R ran out of room in / for programs, they > looked to for a partition that had additional space available and it was > /usr. Originally programs ended up in /usr/bi

Re: Can't install ƒ20

On 24 March 2014 16:37, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > >> >> /dev/sda5 / 16GB <- this is where I want to put Fedora; it used to be >> elementary's / > > Is this a plain partition, or is it an LVM physical volume? Plain MBR partition. I never ever use LVM

Re: the "separate /usr" subthread

On 26 March 2014 22:42, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Yes, I recall that the first Unix system I ran, version 5 on a pdp-11/23, > had two (enormous) 10MB disks, one for the kernel and the other /usr . Wow. Well, that's *us* told. Schooled, even. 8-) -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livej

Re: Problem updating google-chrome

On 26/03/14 02:01 PM, Martin Airs wrote: On Wednesday 26 Mar 2014 13:18:47 Franklin McCormick wrote: Updating my Fedora 19 system this morning turned up a problem...the newest version of google-chrome-unstable requires libmojo_system which apparently is not available. I posted a bug report...but

Re: the "separate /usr" subthread

On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 22:42 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > David G. Miller wrote: > > > The funny thing is that back in the earliest days of Unix, /usr is where > > user directories lived. When K&R ran out of room in / for programs, they > > looked to for a partition that had additional space av

Re: Problem updating google-chrome

On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 18:47 -0400, Franklin McCormick wrote: > On 26/03/14 02:01 PM, Martin Airs wrote: > > On Wednesday 26 Mar 2014 13:18:47 Franklin McCormick wrote: > >> Updating my Fedora 19 system this morning turned up a problem...the > >> newest version of google-chrome-unstable requires lib

smart errors- move grub to sdb ?

Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 27 Offline uncorrectable sectors ok, I have a dual-disk setup. /dev/sda has my /home and is getting errors fedora "/" is actually /dev/sdb1 . I also have a spare partition on sdb that my /home is copied to daily. so if /dev/sda dies ( original disk with the computer) I can

Fedora 20 & Apple thunderbolt monitor - it just works!!!

All; Just thought someone on the list may find this useful: As a business owner I tried moving to appple, it worked ok for over a year before I just couldn't take it any more. So I ordered a Thinkpad W540 with 32G of RAM, the 1920x1080 display - and it comes with a thunderbolt port. I susp