dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Ales Kozumplik
Hi, We're releasing 0.4.12 today. See all the information at the usual places: blog [1], release notes [2] and f20 update [3]. Ales [1] http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/21/dnf-0-4-12-released/ [2] http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/release_notes.html#id23 [3] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:47:03 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So it seems mailx cannot work even locally without sendmail, unlike > what another poster here stated. Yes, I was able to (always testing stuff) Using claws mail at the time. The easiest and simplest option is "MTA" But that does not

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, > for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Where do you get them! ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

OT: Re: Naughty question: copy Windows XP under Fedora?

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:59:51 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Greg Woods wrote: > > >> In any case, with the upcoming death of XP > >> I'm thinking of keeping a backup copy of my Windows partition > > > > The problem with doing this is that, most likely for licensing > > reasons, XP installations a

Re: Naughty question: copy Windows XP under Fedora?

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:56:35 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Basically, I'm (slightly) worried the disk might fail, > and then there would be no way of re-installing XP properly (eg no > SP3). > Slipstream a downloaded sp3 service pack into a new CD, providing you have the original CD\DVD: Windo

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:16:19 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > using mailx to supposedly mail to myself with no sendmail. cron is > failing in the mailing and the message ends in dead.letter. > What does "systemctl status crond.service -l" say ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users m

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > We're releasing 0.4.12 today. See all the information at the usual places: > blog [1], release notes [2] and f20 update [3]. Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three different lists (none of which is the Testing

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:07:43 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three > different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those > using dnf will get the update anyway. > > poc It's on users anyway, as Ales asked "her

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 11:13, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:07:43 + > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three >> different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those >> using dnf will get the update anyway.

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:42:52 +0100 poma wrote: > Rather than rational, it's more opportune. > PO'C got a point. ;) I don't believe so, I received only one copy ot the dnf mail, though on all 4 lists. dnf has got quite a lot more testting as a result of Ales OP: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/p

Re: Naughty question: copy Windows XP under Fedora?

2014-01-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > Not sure what documentation you are looking at, but the doc file is 235 > pages long? > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/files/g4l%20documentation/g4l0.44-docum > entation.pdf/download OK, thanks. I went to what I took to be the main g4l site,

Re: Naughty question: copy Windows XP under Fedora?

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:52:06 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: > I went to what I took to be the main g4l site, > , > and didn't see any mention of documentation. > Maybe "Documentation" would be a better tag than "Files" ... > That's quite common on sourceforge.

F20 certutil -L cannot ,nss-gui can read

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
Why does this happen ~$ certutil -L certutil: function failed: SEC_ERROR_LEGACY_DATABASE: The certificate/key database is in an old, unsupported format. whahtproides */certutil nss-tools rpm -q nss-tools nss-tools-3.15.4-1.fc20.x86_64 yet nss-gui can read the certs? ___ Regards, Frank www.fra

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > I don't believe so, I received only one copy ot the dnf mail, > though on all 4 lists. The point about not cross-posting is not so much that you get multiple copies (it depends on the list-management software) but that anyone who replies on

Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.

2014-01-21 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 01/20/2014 04:37 PM, William wrote: This is a Fedora - windows dual-boot system, 64-bit. This afternoon, I updated to Fedora-20 using fedup. But Fedora-20 is not offered in the boot window. Sometimes I've had to update the grub selections manually, using: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/gru

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:22:19 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Frank Murphy > wrote: > > I don't believe so, I received only one copy ot the dnf mail, > > though on all 4 lists. > > The point about not cross-posting is not so much that you get multiple > cop

font selection for chrome tabs

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
Does anyone know how/where the fonts used in Google Chrome tabs are defined? I have a system which was upgraded to F20 via fedup from F19. The problem I'm having is that the text in a tab is not being displayed properly when the text is Chinese. Firefox is OK. Also, a newly installed F20 syst

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> The point about not cross-posting is not so much that you get multiple >> copies (it depends on the list-management software) but that anyone >> who replies on one list won't see the replies on the other lists. This >> is a recipe for confusi

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:35:39 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > So you think the Guideline about cross-posting is irrelevant or should > be revoked? Why do you think this exists in the first place? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines " Before Posting to the List There are a

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:16:19 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > using mailx to supposedly mail to myself with no sendmail. cron is > failing in the mailing and the message ends in dead.letter. This is why: from cronie runjob.c /* Check that we have a way of sending mail. */ if(stat(SENDMAI

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/14 21:43, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:16:19 -0800 > Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> using mailx to supposedly mail to myself with no sendmail. cron is >> failing in the mailing and the message ends in dead.letter. > This is why: > from cronie runjob.c > > /* Check that w

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:54:10 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: mail's queue. > > But, in my limited testing, using procmail would not require > sendmail. > No, it's inbuilt into cronie, if /usr/bin/sendmail is not there cron mails fails. man crond: The syslog output will be used instead of mail, when

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Do you think that guideline really is talking > about a dev in a dev let distro. You've lost me completely now. I've no idea what you're talking about. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscr

dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
Hi. Trying to test/figure out if there's a way to update local dns zones/data with the data from the dhclient. (Don't have control of the dhcp server process)!! As I understand it, there's a process/way to use dhclient-scripts to generate hook functions that can be called, which can then dynamica

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:03:47 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Frank Murphy > wrote: > > Do you think that guideline really is talking > > about a dev in a dev let distro. > > > You've lost me completely now. I've no idea what you're talking about. > > poc

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/14 22:00, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:54:10 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > mail's queue. >> But, in my limited testing, using procmail would not require >> sendmail. >> > No, it's inbuilt into cronie, > if /usr/bin/sendmail is not there cron mails fails. > > man crond: > Th

Re: spectrum

2014-01-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 05:58:26PM +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Trying to install spectrum on fedora 20 I get: > Error: Package: spectrum-1.4.8-11.fc20.i686 (fedora) >           Requires: libgloox.so.8 >           Available: 1:gloox-1.0.3-1.fc20.i686 (fedora) >               libgloox.so.8 >  

Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:37:56 -0500 William wrote: > This is a Fedora - windows dual-boot system, 64-bit. > > This afternoon, I updated to Fedora-20 using fedup. But Fedora-20 is > not offered in the boot window. rpm -q kernel, to see if you have an *fc20* kernel ___ Regards, Frank www.fra

Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.

2014-01-21 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 20 January 2014, William sent: > I can sign on to Fedora-19, but the left and right > screens are reversed! (This is a dual monitor system.) You should be able to drag and drop the monitor icons around into the order that you want, in the displays properties configurator.

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Those guidelines are there, to me, after reading them to prevent > @users cross-posting to @devel & @test with "How do I.." questions > Not to prevent devs posting to where they feel appropriate. I'd say that was a rather creative interpretat

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 21 January 2014, bruce sent: > Trying to test/figure out if there's a way to update local dns > zones/data with the data from the dhclient. (Don't have control of the > dhcp server process)!! > > As I understand it, there's a process/way to use dhclient-scripts to > generate

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 01:26 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:16:19 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: using mailx to supposedly mail to myself with no sendmail. cron is failing in the mailing and the message ends in dead.letter. What does "systemctl status crond.service -l" say crond.se

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 12:19 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:47:03 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: So it seems mailx cannot work even locally without sendmail, unlike what another poster here stated. Yes, I was able to (always testing stuff) Using claws mail at the time. The easiest and

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
um.. tim... (and others!!) some of us who deall with getting dhcp ipp addresses, don't have access to managing the dhcp server!!! that's the situation here. which is exactly what i typed!! thanks On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 21 January 2014, bruce sent:

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 05:43 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:16:19 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: using mailx to supposedly mail to myself with no sendmail. cron is failing in the mailing and the message ends in dead.letter. This is why: from cronie runjob.c /* Check that we have a

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 05:54 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/21/14 21:43, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:16:19 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: using mailx to supposedly mail to myself with no sendmail. cron is failing in the mailing and the message ends in dead.letter. This is why: from croni

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 06:00 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:54:10 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: mail's queue. But, in my limited testing, using procmail would not require sendmail. No, it's inbuilt into cronie, if /usr/bin/sendmail is not there cron mails fails. man crond: The syslog outpu

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:22:05 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > I'd say that was a rather creative interpretation. There's no wording > in the Guideline to support that position. See > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Do_not_Cross_Post > (it's only a few lines and says noth

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:27:50 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: ad by my claws-mail as numbered plaintext. > > I tried 'mutt -f dead.letter' and mutt said that dead.letter was note > a mailbox. > > > mailx will keep appending to dead.letter and it can grow massive, I have tested it as far as 8.34GB

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:32:01 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I kind of thought it was in the code, as I went through all the > config files and could not find anything beyond the change I had > already made to /etc/sysconfig/crond > > CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/mailx -t" At the moment cronie seem t

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Richard Hughes
On 21 January 2014 10:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three > different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those > using dnf will get the update anyway. It seems to me, Ales is damned if he does publicize the relea

Simple substitute for sendmail for cron to use

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So in keeping with MTA is dead for non-server platforms, I propose the following to allow for local cron output delivery. Note if the user wants remote delivery, an MTA MUST be installed. So basically this script needs to take the output of the cron job and prepend it to the /var/spool/mail/u

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/14 22:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Something is complaining. I do have: > > CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/mailx -t" > > But we see from the test of trying to use the dead.letter file that mailx > itself is using sendmail. So you fix one problem and cause another. I think it is pretty much

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> I'd say that was a rather creative interpretation. There's no wording >> in the Guideline to support that position. See >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Do_not_Cross_Post >> (it's only

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:46:06 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > Oh I see. If I'm not looking for help then I can just ignore the > Guidelines and do what I want. That just makes so much sense. > > poc Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, and in the main Devs will get all the

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/14 22:49, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 21 January 2014 10:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three >> different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those >> using dnf will get the update anyway. > It seems to me

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 06:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:32:01 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I kind of thought it was in the code, as I went through all the config files and could not find anything beyond the change I had already made to /etc/sysconfig/crond CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ed Greshko said: > FWIW, having an MTA running but doing nothing other than delivering mail for > cron and other system utils doesn't utilize system resources. Getting around > installing an MTA may be more trouble than it is worth. Yeah, if you just have to have cron output

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 06:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:27:50 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: ad by my claws-mail as numbered plaintext. I tried 'mutt -f dead.letter' and mutt said that dead.letter was note a mailbox. mailx will keep appending to dead.letter and it can grow massive,

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:55:46 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > fails on no /usr/bin/sendmail. It would probably get in an infinite > loop. > It just checks for /usr/bin/sendmail which it will now be tricked into finding. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:56:42 -0600 Chris Adams wrote: eing an MTA) is overkill. > > "Default-no-MTA" was never intended to be "replace all possible use > cases with no MTA". You want mail in files, so use an MTA. > You can just mailx to gmail, get your fix that way. No MTA required. ___ Regard

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:46:06 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > Oh I see. If I'm not looking for help then I can just ignore the > Guidelines and do what I want. That just makes so much sense. > > poc Forgot the most compelling piece of my argument: This is the sig from @test. @ devel is si

Re: [389-users] Replication error

2014-01-21 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 01/21/2014 05:16 AM, Diego Woitasen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Diego Woitasen wrote: >> Hi, >> I have a replication error with 389DS. If I try a full resync, >> replication works. But if I modify something after that, it fails. The >> only lines that I see in the logs are: >> >>

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 21 January 2014, bruce sent: > some of us who deall with getting dhcp ipp addresses, don't have > access to managing the dhcp server!!! And you have access to a DNS server that you can reprogram?? If so, then have a look at the already existing coding for the DHCP servers,

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
tim.. i have complete control over the local dns the local client machines are given hostnames upon creation/boot up.. the idea is to be able to have someone within the local network, who'[s machine has been configured to point to the local dns, to be able to use the boxname "foo" to get to the

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 07:01 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:56:42 -0600 Chris Adams wrote: eing an MTA) is overkill. "Default-no-MTA" was never intended to be "replace all possible use cases with no MTA". You want mail in files, so use an MTA. You can just mailx to gmail, get your fi

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 06:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:32:01 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I kind of thought it was in the code, as I went through all the config files and could not find anything beyond the change I had already made to /etc/sysconfig/crond CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. > Fedora.next Primary audience for Fedora will be: > 1: Devs > 2: SysAdmins > 3: Others WTF are "Others"!? True priority list: 1. Users 2.

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:06:23 +0100 poma wrote: > On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. > > Fedora.next Primary audience for Fedora will be: > > 1: Devs > > 2: SysAdmins >

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 15:57, Ed Greshko wrote: > Totally agree. > > It didn't trouble me in the least that the message was posted to multiple > lists. > > I guess some folks would have been happier if Ales would have sent individual > messages to each of the mailing lists. Yeah I see when someo

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:03:00 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Never used gmail. No plans to. > > You don't need gmail, but mail can be forwarded, without MTA, if you have suitable mua-client installed claws-mail, Thunderbirds can both send without mta installed. mailx can with a suitable ~/mai

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 17:08, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:06:23 +0100 > poma wrote: > >> On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >>> Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, >>> and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. >>> Fedora.next Primary audience for

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:06pm on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 (UK time), poma wrote: > On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. > > Fedora.next Primary audience for Fedora will be: > > 1: Devs

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 08:01 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/21/2014 06:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:32:01 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I kind of thought it was in the code, as I went through all the config files and could not find anything beyond the change I had already mad

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:01:07 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Ok. I tried this, and mailx is no longer complaining. But no mail > in /var/spool/mail/rgm and no dead.letter. Mail is now dropping into > the abyss, it seems. So this is not an answer. > > What cron did you try to do, in case it

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:14:54 +0100 poma wrote: > > Don't ask me I just read the stuff. > > Are you the "Others"? :) > > I learned Java, now Swing is out Java FX is back in. Can't they leave an old dog with his ways. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fe

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 17:10, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 04:06pm on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 (UK time), poma wrote: > >> On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >>> Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, >>> and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. >>> Fedora.next Pri

procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
From old message: On 12/30/2013 06:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: First of all, let me reiterate one thing. "sendmail" does not do local delivery by itself. It relies on another program to do this. In the default configuration (sendmail.mc) on Fedora it is defined to use procmail for local deli

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 17:17, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:14:54 +0100 > poma wrote: > >>> Don't ask me I just read the stuff. >> >> Are you the "Others"? :) >> >> > > I learned Java, now Swing is out Java FX is back in. > Can't they leave an old dog with his ways. :) poma -- users

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 08:15 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:01:07 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: Ok. I tried this, and mailx is no longer complaining. But no mail in /var/spool/mail/rgm and no dead.letter. Mail is now dropping into the abyss, it seems. So this is not an answer. W

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Kevin Martin
On 01/21/2014 09:54 AM, bruce wrote: > tim.. > > i have complete control over the local dns > > the local client machines are given hostnames upon creation/boot up.. > > the idea is to be able to have someone within the local network, > who'[s machine has been configured to point to the local dn

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Kevin Martin
On 01/21/2014 10:36 AM, Kevin Martin wrote: > On 01/21/2014 09:54 AM, bruce wrote: >> tim.. >> >> i have complete control over the local dns >> >> the local client machines are given hostnames upon creation/boot up.. >> >> the idea is to be able to have someone within the local network, >> who'[s m

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Where do you get them! I doubt he knows. Methinks it predates the internet. Unless he is the

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 21.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > cat d1.letter |procmail You can also re-run existing mails through the whole system, e.g. by piping the mail into "formail -ds | procmail". You can do that in mutt by pressing the "|" and writing the command in the field which opened up. > So what is mi

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 08:39 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 21.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote: cat d1.letter |procmail You can also re-run existing mails through the whole system, e.g. by piping the mail into "formail -ds | procmail". You can do that in mutt by pressing the "|" and writing the command in

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
kevin. the whole/partial reason for all of this. the local system with the dhcp, doesn't have a dns!!! you come in the lab, connect, you get your ip. as to the external world, the dhcp serves the dns for the rest of the world. as to the internal boxes, you get an ip, nothing more!! it wasn't th

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Mark Bidewell
I think this may be an issue with the Fedora build of dhclient. I can successfully update DNS with dhclient on CentOS6 or Ubuntu, but not Fedora. On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM, bruce wrote: > kevin. > > the whole/partial reason for all of this. > > the local system with the dhcp, doesn't ha

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
tom.. which is what i'm doing! or rather attempting to do tom, sorry for the frustration, but this is exactly what I asked in the very 1st post on this. I asked, how one can go about updating a local dns using nsupdate from the clients, based on the dhclient updates, or words to that effect.

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Tom Horsley
> the local system with the dhcp, doesn't have a dns!!! It could. You could run your own DNS server in the lab for the lab systems and have it forward DNS requests to whatever server the lab systems currently use. That way the lab systems see each other's names, and they all see the outside world

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:20:37 -0500 bruce wrote: > I asked, how one can go about updating a local dns using nsupdate from > the clients, based on the dhclient updates, or words to that effect.. I know nuthin about nsupdate. I've used dhcp and bind together to provide dynamic DNS, but I did it a lo

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
and tom what you state/propose only works if the dhcp server/process is configured to accept the propogated returned name from the dhclient.. if the dhcp server is not configured to accept this.. you need to update the dns (local dns) in another manner.. and this is my case.!! i know.. a pa

I must be missing something.

2014-01-21 Thread Aaron Konstam
I tried to upgrade to f20 by executing : fedup --network 20 as root. But when the execution is over he only kernel I have on the system is the f18 kernel. What have I done wrong? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: font selection for chrome tabs

2014-01-21 Thread Edward M
On 1/21/2014 5:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Does anyone know how/where the fonts used in Google Chrome tabs are defined These two links may help: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/96810?hl=en https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95416?hl=en&ref_topic=1678461 -- users

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. Once again, I've no idea what "dev let distro" means or if it has any bearing on the question of cross-posting. I presume it's

GnuCash update problem

2014-01-21 Thread Steven Stern
From yum: Transaction check error: file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide from install of gnucash-docs-2.6.0-1.fc20.noarch conflicts with file from package gnucash-docs-2.4.2-2.fc20.noarch file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnucash-help from install of gnucash-docs-2.6.0-1.fc20.noarch conflicts with

Re: GnuCash update problem

2014-01-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:42:00 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: > From yum: > > Transaction check error: > file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide from install of > gnucash-docs-2.6.0-1.fc20.noarch conflicts with file from package > gnucash-docs-2.4.2-2.fc20.noarch > file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnuca

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:30:06 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > "dev let distro" ^^^ apologies typo Dev (Developer) led distro. Users don't get to tell devs' what to mail That's the truth of it. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: GnuCash update problem

2014-01-21 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/21/2014 12:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:42:00 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: > >> From yum: >> >> Transaction check error: >> file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide from install of >> gnucash-docs-2.6.0-1.fc20.noarch conflicts with file from package >> gnucash-docs

Re: I must be missing something.

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:56:15 -0600 Aaron Konstam wrote: > I tried to upgrade to f20 by executing : > fedup --network 20 > as root. But when the execution is over he only kernel I have on the > system is the f18 kernel. What have I done wrong? > You mean there is only one kernel on the system, o

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 19:54, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:30:06 + > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> "dev let distro" >^^^ > apologies typo Dev (Developer) led distro. > Users don't get to tell devs' what to mail > > That's the truth of it. > > ___ > Regards, > Frank > www

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:08:25 +0100 poma wrote: > Aleš, do get what to mail! > Pictures of snowy topped mountains in Spring import Java.Util.* Where's my picture gone. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 08:49 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/21/2014 08:39 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 21.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote: cat d1.letter |procmail You can also re-run existing mails through the whole system, e.g. by piping the mail into "formail -ds | procmail". You can do that in mu

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 01/21/2014 02:20 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Where do you get them! ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com Dragons, or my signature? Mikk

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:30:06 + > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> "dev let distro" >^^^ > apologies typo Dev (Developer) led distro. > Users don't get to tell devs' what to mail > > That's the truth of it. This list is for Fedor

issue with flash plugin on 1 x86_64 machine

2014-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I have four machines (3 x86_64's and 1 i386). I installed flash on all 4 using the following: http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-fedora-centos-red-hat-rhel/ For 3 machines, I have had no problems. For 1 x86_64 machine, I installed flash today but am u

Re: [389-users] using passwd with 389

2014-01-21 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 01/21/2014 12:29 PM, Chaudhari, Rohit K. wrote: > Hello, > > I want to be able to use the Unix "passwd" command to reset a LDAP > user's password from the command line. However, I keep getting an > authentication token manipulation error whenever I try to reset the > password using that comman

Re: f20 - Suspend not working

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
latest failure. On 01/19/2014 10:37 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/19/2014 11:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/19/2014 10:35 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: To suspend

Re: issue with flash plugin on 1 x86_64 machine

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 01:06 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hi, I have four machines (3 x86_64's and 1 i386). I installed flash on all 4 using the following: http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-fedora-centos-red-hat-rhel/ For 3 machines, I have had no problems. For 1

Re: issue with flash plugin on 1 x86_64 machine

2014-01-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > But to no avail. One issue is that I can not reinstall/erase because of > these scriptlet errors which I have been getting for a week. > > Any suggestions as to a possible fix? > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/22/14 03:37, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So I changed the run time to 11am, and procmail DID drop something into > /var/spool/mail/rgm, but mutt says it is not a valid mailbox. I have emailed > one of my smtp oldtimers for help, but meanwhile here is what is going into > my mail (anyone see

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