Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Pete Travis
On Jan 8, 2014 11:36 PM, "William Biggs" wrote: > > My brother told me about Cinnamon desktop . I tryed it I like it but I do not want to install it along with gnome . Witch fedora spin has it as default desktop ? > > -- > I don't understand this. They should not conflict. You can install both an

Re: frippery extension in fedora 20

2014-01-09 Thread Ron Yorston
Patrick Dupre wrote: >I cannot update frippery extensions (application menu, etc..) in fedora 20 >I cannot remove them either. The Frippery extensions are available for F20, as a tar file or RPM from my website[1] or via the GNOME Shell Extensions website[2]. How did you originally install them?

Re: gnome-classic-session

2014-01-09 Thread Ron Yorston
Robert Moskowitz wrote: >I am looking through what extensions are available for gnome via yumex, >and I find gnome-classic-session. I haven't tried gnome-classic-session in F20 yet though I have looked at it in F19. The one feature I missed is the ability to put application launchers in the top

Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread poma
On 07.01.2014 20:43, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 18:29:12 +0100 poma > wrote: > >> On 06.01.2014 02:00, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have been having a somewhat unusual problem after waking up from >>> hibernate with the Cisco VPN client. This only happens with F20 -- i

Re: F20/Windows 7 Dual Boot Problem

2014-01-09 Thread Dave Cross
On 5 January 2014 15:06, Dave Cross wrote: > I've had my laptop set up for dual boot between Fedora and Windows 7 > for a couple of years. Everything has worked fine. > > I updated from Fedora 19 to Fedora 20 using fedup recently. After > that, I was still able to boot into Windows when I wanted t

Re: frippery extension in fedora 20

2014-01-09 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank, OK, it works fedup did not update automatically. > > Patrick Dupre wrote: > >I cannot update frippery extensions (application menu, etc..) in fedora 20 > >I cannot remove them either. > > The Frippery extensions are available for F20, as a tar file or RPM > from my website[1] or via the

Re: Problems with hybrid graphics in Fedora 20

2014-01-09 Thread Paweł Sikora
On Thursday 09 of January 2014 10:29:12 Shibi wrote: > Hi, > after updating my system to fedora 20 I encountered multiple problems > > 1- Kernel package 3.12 crashes every time I try to use acpi_call or > vgaswitcheroo to turn off my discrete graphics card (ATI Radeon HD 5650), > every time I try

Re: frippery extension in fedora 20

2014-01-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > fedup did not update automatically. > Fedup only updates packages from the repos defined in your yum database, which is really all it can be expected to do. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 09 January 2014, Pete Travis sent: > I don't understand this. They should not conflict. You can install > both and choose your preference of the day when you login. But why install something you don't intend to use? I don't use KDE, so I don't have it installed. If I did,

Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 09 January 2014, Pete Travis sent: > > I don't understand this. They should not conflict. You can install > > both and choose your preference of the day when you login. > > But why install something you don't intend to use? I d

Re: Evolution freezes on calendar page

2014-01-09 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 20:18 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Matthew Saltzman > wrote: > Suddenly, whenever I switch evolution to the calendar page (or > whenever > it starts on the calendar page) it locks up. The status bar >

Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Well.. I don't see the problem. I have installed Mate & KDE, but I only use Mate. Up to now, the other desktop never gives me problem. Is just there. From time to time I update it, and that's all. Aside of it, is always a good idea to have an alternative desktop. If your main Environment fails

Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Carlos "casep" Sepulveda
On 9 January 2014 03:35, William Biggs wrote: > My brother told me about Cinnamon desktop . I tryed it I like it but I do > not want to install it along with gnome . Witch fedora spin has it as > default desktop ? Hi: You can't as Cinnamon is based on Gnome3 -- "Never, never, in nothing great

Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
> > If you insist on using proprietary solution rather than free and open > one, go ahead, knock yourself out. > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Services#Cisco_AnyConnect_VPN > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html > Good luck with that, Ran. ;) Thanks for your

dnf-yum observation -

2014-01-09 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I did dnf update this morning with the following result: [root@box10 bobg]# dnf update Upgrading: ibus-kkc krb5-libs krb5-libs libbluray libkkc libkkc-common net-snmp-libs qtwebkit setroubleshoot-plugins Transaction Summary === Upgrade 9 Packages After which I ran

Re: dnf-yum observation -

2014-01-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:26:32 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: It's feature - less metadata checking http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscriptio

Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:26:32 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: Apologies wrog link http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-different-output/ ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c

Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Bob Marcan
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 11:09:21 -0300 "Carlos \"casep\" Sepulveda" wrote: > On 9 January 2014 03:35, William Biggs wrote: > > My brother told me about Cinnamon desktop . I tryed it I like it but I do > > not want to install it along with gnome . Witch fedora spin has it as > > default desktop ? > >

backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread bruce
hi. looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and possibly other linux flavors) I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can define the dirs that the owner wants backed up. This kind of approach would allow us to be able to track when things get backed

Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread fedora
rsync with a wrapper script? I do it this way. suomi On 01/09/2014 03:30 PM, bruce wrote: hi. looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and possibly other linux flavors) I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can define the dirs that the owner wa

dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-09 Thread Ales Kozumplik
Hello, New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too! Ales [1] http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/09/dnf-0-4-11-released/ [2] http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/release_notes.html#id22 [3] https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread bruce
you rsync the entire drive?? or just certain trees? On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:40 AM, fedora wrote: > rsync with a wrapper script? I do it this way. > > suomi > > > On 01/09/2014 03:30 PM, bruce wrote: >> >> hi. >> >> looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and >> possibly o

Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread fedora
just certain directories, which may end up in rsyncing the entire drive, if necessary. suomi On 01/09/2014 03:49 PM, bruce wrote: you rsync the entire drive?? or just certain trees? On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:40 AM, fedora wrote: rsync with a wrapper script? I do it this way. suomi On 01/

Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 1. 2014 at 14:31:09, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:26:32 -0500 > "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > > Apologies wrog link > > http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-differen > t-output/ Just a note here: if you want the MD to be synced

basic question - running modified kickstart file??

2014-01-09 Thread bruce
Hi. Assume I create the initial dvd for fed. I go through the process to do a simple desktop install. From the install, I get a kickstart file (ks.cfg). if I want to make some mods to the kickstart file, and then rerun the install, how do I do this, and use the modified kickstart that I now have?

Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/01/14 09:31, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:26:32 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: Apologies wrong link http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-different-output/ ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com I guess I just don't understan

Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:21:39 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > I guess I just don't understand, it seems like an update should > include everything that needs changing ... Dnf is faster but if it > only does half as much is that an improvement? > It is for some who don't like

Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
I tried dnf. One major issue that I did not like is that I asked it to install a bunch of stuff, one of which was not available (in F20). That meant dnf would not install anything. Also it was not clear to me that it was using deltarpms. Of course, I did not look into all possibilities so there m

Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Neal Becker
Dunno about your specific requirements, but have a look at obnam. I'm very pleased with this for my needs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fed

Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:30 AM, bruce wrote: > hi. > > looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and > possibly other linux flavors) > > I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can > define the dirs that the owner wants backed up. This kind of approac

Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/09/2014 10:16 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:30 AM, bruce > wrote: > > hi. > > looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and > possibly other linux flavors) > > I'm considering some sort of agent process,

Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread poma
On 09.01.2014 15:21, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Thanks for your e-mail, poma. Btw, you got my name wrong, but anyway. > > Well, I agree with you on staying off proprietary solutions, but as with > flash, I don't really have an option here. The Cisco vpn is needed to > be a node on my employer's netw

[389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread Conor O'Callaghan
Hi all, I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys in 389 directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-key rather than a password? I am running the server on Ubuntu 13.10 and the client is Ubuntu 12.04. Thanks all, Conor -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fe

Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread William Biggs
Thank for all the info On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 22:57 -0800, Edward M wrote: > On 1/8/2014 10:35 PM, William Biggs wrote: > > > My brother told me about Cinnamon desktop . I tryed it I like it but > > I do not want to install it along with gnome . Witch fedora spin has > > it as default desktop ? >

Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/09/2014 06:52 AM, fedora issued this missive: just certain directories, which may end up in rsyncing the entire drive, if necessary. bacula works pretty well. You can define directory trees to back up, exclude lists, backup type (full, incremental, differential), etc. Takes a bit of work

F20 On-screen keyboard for login

2014-01-09 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
I'm trying to use Fedora on a touch-screen only tablet but haven't been able to solve this crucial problem: there doesn't appear to be anyway to log into the system without a physical keyboard. Everything else worked fine out of the box but the Universal Access keyboard appears to work only after a

Re: F20/Windows 7 Dual Boot Problem

2014-01-09 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 9, 2014, at 3:29 AM, Dave Cross wrote: > On 5 January 2014 15:06, Dave Cross wrote: >> I've had my laptop set up for dual boot between Fedora and Windows 7 >> for a couple of years. Everything has worked fine. >> >> I updated from Fedora 19 to Fedora 20 using fedup recently. After >> th

installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, "Started Builds ..."

2014-01-09 Thread David Shwatrz
Hello, fedora users, I have an Nvidia graphic card. Instead of using the default nouveau driver, I installed akmod-nvidia (simply by yum -y install akmod-nvidia) Now first time after installing akmod-nvidia and restarting the machine boot hanged with this message: [OK] Started Builds and install k

Re: installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, "Started Builds ..."

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Shaw
I don't know why it would hang, but did you also install gcc, kernel-headers, kernel-devel? Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraprojec

Re: [389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread Paul Robert Marino
have you considered using Kerberos instead of ssh keys? its fairly transparent and doesn't require any patches. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Vesa Alho wrote: >>> I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys in 389 >>> directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-k

Re: basic question - running modified kickstart file??

2014-01-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 10:02:31AM -0500, bruce wrote: > Assume I create the initial dvd for fed. I go through the process to > do a simple desktop install. > > From the install, I get a kickstart file (ks.cfg). if I want to make > some mods to the kickstart file, and then rerun the install, how d

Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 08:21:06AM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > > > If you insist on using proprietary solution rather than free and open > > one, go ahead, knock yourself out. > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Services#Cisco_AnyConnect_VPN > > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects

Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Andre Robatino
Ranjan Maitra inbox.com> writes: > Also it was not clear to me that it was using deltarpms. Of course, I > did not look into all possibilities so there may be some setting that I > needed to have. Unfortunately, dnf doesn't yet support deltarpms. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=

Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:36:42 + Andre Robatino wrote: > Ranjan Maitra inbox.com> writes: > > > Also it was not clear to me that it was using deltarpms. Of course, I > > did not look into all possibilities so there may be some setting that I > > needed to have. > > Unfortunately, dnf doesn't

Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:06:33 -0500 Fred Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 08:21:06AM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > > > > > > If you insist on using proprietary solution rather than free and open > > > one, go ahead, knock yourself out. > > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/

Re: installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, "Started Builds ..."

2014-01-09 Thread bitlord
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 20:25 +0200, David Shwatrz wrote: > Hello, fedora users, > I have an Nvidia graphic card. Instead of using the default nouveau > driver, I installed akmod-nvidia (simply by yum -y install > akmod-nvidia) > > Now first time after installing akmod-nvidia and restarting the > ma

Re: installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, "Started Builds ..."

2014-01-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/09/2014 02:07 PM, bitlord wrote: It is possible that you are missing kernel-devel package use this for installinghttp://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia also if you are interested why it doesn't install 'kernel-devel' package, look herehttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047041 It's al

Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:52 PM, fedora wrote: > just certain directories, which may end up in rsyncing the entire drive, > if necessary. > I'll put in a good word for rsnapshot, an rsync wrapper which I've used happily for several years and has worked well for my needs. Just so people don't go

Re: F20 On-screen keyboard for login

2014-01-09 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 01/09/2014 11:43 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: I'm trying to use Fedora on a touch-screen only tablet but haven't been able to solve this crucial problem: there doesn't appear to be anyway to log into the system without a physical keyboard. Everything else worked fine out of the box but the Un

f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things as your default email program, your default editor, and I believe your default file browser. I can't find a similar facility in f20. I want to change my default file browser from Nautilus to Nemo. -- users mailing list users@list

Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/09/2014 04:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things as your > default email program, your default editor, and I believe your default > file browser. I can't find a similar facility in f20. > > I want to change my default file browser fr

Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/09/2014 06:01 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 01/09/2014 04:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things as your default email program, your default editor, and I believe your default file browser. I can't find a similar facility in f20. I wan

F20 has blurry font rendering

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Cronenworth
I've upgraded a few machines and felt the font rendering was harder to read in F20. I took some F19 screenshots and F20 screenshots and found my eyes were correct. Thunderbird F19: http://i.imgur.com/rgnFmU6.png F20: http://i.imgur.com/ceOIM0n.png Firefox F19: http://i.imgur.com/8MXxy0N.png F20

Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread ergodic
Steven, My original reply is being held for list moderator's review due to its length, it has a couple of pictures.. I will be happy to email it directly if you give me your email. The information without the graphics follows: # yum install -y nemo alacarte Set Nemo as Default File browser: #

Re: F20 has blurry font rendering

2014-01-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 19:40:31 -0600 Michael Cronenworth wrote: > I've upgraded a few machines and felt the font rendering was harder to read > in > F20. I took some F19 screenshots and F20 screenshots and found my eyes were > correct. I haven't had any real font issues since I started turning o

Re: qemu-system-x86 eat 400% CPU

2014-01-09 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
James Hogarth wrote: > On 25 November 2013 04:20, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > >> On Fedora 19/x86_64, Xeon 4cores/8threads, 8GB RAM I have in a VM >> installed windows 2000 (full qemu cmdline see below). What is weird, >> 'top' on host show that all 4 threads load CPU at 100% each. On guest >> are

Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Why thank you. On 01/09/2014 08:58 PM, ergodic wrote: Steven, My original reply is being held for list moderator's review due to its length, it has a couple of pictures.. I will be happy to email it directly if you give me your email. The information without the graphics follows: # yum instal

Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread ergodic
You are welcome! Glad it helped. Thus I am cancelling the original message review in users-bounces. - Original Message - > Why thank you. > > On 01/09/2014 08:58 PM, ergodic wrote: > > Steven, > > My original reply is being held for list moderator's review due > > to its length, it has

Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread poma
On 09.01.2014 23:06, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Thanks! I guess you meant openconnect: I will take a look. I notice > from the webpage > > http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/mail.html > > that there are two gui's: NetworkManager-openconnect and connman: any > preferences for either? http://blogs

Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:34:58 +0100 poma wrote: > On 09.01.2014 23:06, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > Thanks! I guess you meant openconnect: I will take a look. I notice > > from the webpage > > > > http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/mail.html > > > > that there are two gui's: NetworkManager-ope

OCR

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
For f20, is there an OCR program for extracting the text out of a pdf scan? I have an old document of 'Assembly Instructions'. Some can be found at: http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~bcd/humor/instruction.set.html, but I have a few more. And a lot less. But I want the ones that were passed

Re: F20 has blurry font rendering

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 01/09/2014 07:58 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: I haven't had any real font issues Thanks, Tom, but please look at my screenshots, which you snipped. The auto-hint trick is bad advice and the Gnome bug is not related at all. I found the issue to be Gnome 3.10 - after downgrading fontconfig/pango d

Re: OCR

2014-01-09 Thread g
hello robert. On 01/09/2014 09:56 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: For f20, is there an OCR program for extracting the text out of a pdf scan? do you have the pdf file or are you talking about files that were run thru a scanner? I have an old document of 'Assembly Instructions'. Some can be fou

Re: [SOLVED] installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, "Started Builds ..."

2014-01-09 Thread David Shwatrz
Hello, Thanks for all those who gave an advice. After running: yum -y install kernel-devel and rebooting the machine, the problem disappears. It seems to me that the akmod-nvidia rpm should require kernel-devel, because it is useless without it; so that yum install akmod-nvidia will also install