Re: GNOME Classic & Extensions

2013-09-16 Thread Ron Yorston
Jorge Fábregas wrote: >Thanks for the reminder Tim. It helps but I stll can't find it. It >seems the "Frippery Bottom Panel" extension would do it but it doesn't >work with GNOME 3.8. I'm the author of the Frippery extensions. The Bottom Panel should work with GNOME 3.8, though not in Classic m

Re: Thunderbird text color -

2013-09-16 Thread g
On 09/16/2013 01:12 AM, Doug wrote: <> Thanx for the file. T/B says it's installed. As usual, i could not find where to activate the colors. Like before, when you or somebody said there's something looks like a gear wheel. Well, not on my computer. i believe that is an oos thing, or it is in

Re: Thunderbird text color -

2013-09-16 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 16/09/13 02:12, Doug wrote: Thanx for the file. T/B says it's installed. As usual, i could not find where to activate the colors. Like before, when you or somebody said there's something looks like a gear wheel. Well, not on my computer. Anyway, where would I find the preference? I have look

Re: GNOME Classic & Extensions

2013-09-16 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 09/16/2013 03:01 AM, Ron Yorston wrote: > I'm the author of the Frippery extensions. The Bottom Panel should work > with GNOME 3.8, though not in Classic mode. If it's not working for you > I'd like to find out why. Hi Ron, Indeed, I'm using Classic Mode. I guess the bottom panel in Classic

Re: odd issue booting F19 with LUKS partition

2013-09-16 Thread Richard Vickery
On Jul 18, 2013 12:25 PM, "Patrick Lists" wrote: > > Hi Fred, > > > On 07/18/2013 08:50 PM, Fred Smith wrote: >> >> hi gang! >> >> I've put F19 on my Acer Aspire One (dual-core Atom) where it mostly runs >> just fine. >> >> but I've noticed one oddity (by no means a show-stopper) during boot: >> w

Re: WHY !!! ?

2013-09-16 Thread Tim
Sam Varshavchik: >> Do you explicitly unmount your flash drives, before yanking them >> out. > > Jim: > I have to admit that is the one thing I don't do. Well, there's your problem, then... (quite probably, highly likely). And, regarding an older message, being "new" is no guarantee of being goo

Re: WHY !!! ?

2013-09-16 Thread Patrick Lists
On 09/16/2013 01:04 PM, Tim wrote: Sam Varshavchik: Do you explicitly unmount your flash drives, before yanking them out. Jim: I have to admit that is the one thing I don't do. Well, there's your problem, then... (quite probably, highly likely). And, regarding an older message, being "new"

Re: WHY !!! ?

2013-09-16 Thread Ian Malone
On 16 September 2013 12:34, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 09/16/2013 01:04 PM, Tim wrote: >> >> >> Sam Varshavchik: Do you explicitly unmount your flash drives, before yanking them out. >> Jim: >>> >>> I have to admit that is the one thing I don't do. >> >> >> Well, there's your pr

F19: cannot choose desktop session

2013-09-16 Thread antonio montagnani
After latest updates I cannot choose different installed desktops at login. I have to use mate, no GNOME, there is no option to choose. Using lightdm. Shall I file a bug? -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F18(Spherical Cow) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org http://www.campi

Re: WHY !!! ?

2013-09-16 Thread g
hello all, On 09/16/2013 06:57 AM, Ian Malone wrote: On 16 September 2013 12:34, Patrick Lists wrote: On 09/16/2013 01:04 PM, Tim wrote: Sam Varshavchik: Do you explicitly unmount your flash drives, before yanking them out. Jim: I have to admit that is the one thing I don't do. Well

Re: F19: cannot choose desktop session

2013-09-16 Thread antonio montagnani
antonio montagnani ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 16/09/2013 14:10: After latest updates I cannot choose different installed desktops at login. I have to use mate, no GNOME, there is no option to choose. Using lightdm. Shall I file a bug? i understand that in lightdm choice is on

Re: GNOME Classic & Extensions

2013-09-16 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2013-09-15 at 10:32 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > Hey Tim, since you've been here on the list for years, I'm wondering: > What DE are you running? Did you move to GNOME Shell? I do not like the 3.0 desktop, I find the way it expects us to use it annoying, tedious, and unergonomic. None

ssh/port forwarding - listening by multiple clients

2013-09-16 Thread bruce
hi.. Trying to see if ssh/port forwarding can be used to solve a prob. I want to have multiple clients connected to a single master server The masterServer/app is providing data on port X The clientNodes/apps should then listen on port X ssh allows for port forwarding, but I can't figure out h

Re: installiing joomla

2013-09-16 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2013-09-15 at 21:37 +1000, Roger wrote: > I solved it by: > cd /var/www/html > sudo mkdir tester Ugh... Make special areas (whether they be virtual hosts, or writable areas, etc.) outside of the tree. By way of example, you don't want someone to be able to navigate into a virtual host by

Re: ssh/port forwarding - listening by multiple clients

2013-09-16 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/16/13 07:55, bruce wrote: > hi.. > > Trying to see if ssh/port forwarding can be used to solve a prob. > > I want to have multiple clients connected to a single master server > > The masterServer/app is providing data on port X > > The clientNodes/apps should then listen on port X > > ss

Re: Status of fstrim & MD-RAID

2013-09-16 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 16.09.2013, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > Does the mdraid subsystem relays this command to the actual SSD? > What I've found so far is that some patches were submitted upstream > (mdraid) for this but don't know if it made to Fedora 19. I don't run a Fedora kernel, but took a short look into /driv

Re: Status of fstrim & MD-RAID

2013-09-16 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 16.09.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Does fstrim work with md-raid devices these days with Fedora 19 out of > >> the box? I would like to use 2 SSDs (in RAID-1) & wondered about trim > >> support. > > Do you have any objections against the use of "discard"? > > Just asking.. > which *is* t

Re: WHY !!! ?

2013-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2013 13:04, schrieb Tim: > Having said that, if I had the option, I'd configure things so that USB > drives get flushed within moments of a save. I used to turn off write > buffering, where I had a choice. It made things slower, though slightly > safer. But it was years ago since I pla

Re: installiing joomla

2013-09-16 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/13/2013 11:28 AM, Martin S wrote: > On Friday, September 13, 2013 08:18:03 PM Roger wrote: > > Yes, to use localhost an username it has to be the username to use > localhost as root then root is ok. That's why I suggested chown > root:username s

Re: WHY !!! ?

2013-09-16 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 16 September 2013, Reindl Harald sent: > In case of media with limited number of write cycles (e.g. some flash > drives) "sync" may cause life-cycle shortening. >> I wish that sort of thing was the default, as USB flash drives, or >> even USB-connected hard drives, are quite

Re: WHY !!! ?

2013-09-16 Thread Jim
On 09/15/2013 06:14 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/15/2013 09:27 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.09.2013 18:03, schrieb Jim: On 09/14/2013 08:11 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Do you explicitly unmount your flash drives, before yanking them out. I have to admit that is the one thing I don't do so a

Re: GNOME Classic & Extensions

2013-09-16 Thread Dan Thurman
On 09/16/2013 05:41 AM, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2013-09-15 at 10:32 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: Hey Tim, since you've been here on the list for years, I'm wondering: What DE are you running? Did you move to GNOME Shell? I do not like the 3.0 desktop, I find the way it expects us to use it annoying

Re: ssh/port forwarding - listening by multiple clients

2013-09-16 Thread bruce
hey kevin, et al here's my test: masterServer [vm running on foo.com:50122] | +--- clientServerA localhost/7100 | +--- clientServerB localhost/7100 on the clients, I run ssh -N -f -L 7100:127.0.0.1:7100 u...@foo.com -p 50122 which establishes the connection to the maser server

Re: ssh/port forwarding - listening by multiple clients

2013-09-16 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/16/13 13:15, bruce wrote: > hey kevin, et al > > here's my test: > > masterServer [vm running on foo.com:50122] > | > +--- clientServerA localhost/7100 > | > +--- clientServerB localhost/7100 > > > on the clients, I run > ssh -N -f -L 7100:127.0.0.1:7100 u...@foo.com -p 50

udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Artim
I have 6 nics that I'd like assigned like: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:3c", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:3d", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth

Re: udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Artim
yes, thanksI went back over the threads and figured that its best to just change. thanks much! On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM, František Hanzlík wrote: > Gary Artim wrote: >> I have 6 nics that I'd like assigned like: >> >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", >> ATTR{address}=="x

Re: udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Artim
so something like: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:3c", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="net0" altering any iptables rules to match? On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM, František Hanzlík wrote: > Gary Artim wrote: >> I have 6 nics that I'd

Re: udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Gary Artim wrote: > so something like: > > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:3c", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", > NAME="net0" Yes, exactly, this rule will name interface with MAC address "xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:3c" as "net0" > altering any iptables rule

Re: udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread Gary Artim
will give it a try, thanks! On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Gary Artim wrote: >> so something like: >> >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", >> ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:3c", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", >> NAME="net0" > > Yes, exactly, this rule

Re: udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:16:03 -0700 Gary Artim wrote: > I have 6 nics that I'd like assigned like: > > Any help greatly appreciated! http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ (I don't like this, how do I disable this?) on the kernel line place: net.ifnam

Re: Thunderbird text color -

2013-09-16 Thread David
On 9/16/2013 3:25 AM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > > On 16/09/13 02:12, Doug wrote: >> Thanx for the file. T/B says it's installed. As usual, i could not find >> where to activate the colors. Like before, when you or somebody said >> there's something looks like a gear wheel. Well

Re: udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:16:03 -0700 > Gary Artim wrote: > >> I have 6 nics that I'd like assigned like: > >> >> Any help greatly appreciated! > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ > (I don't like this, how do I disable this?)

Re: udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: >> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:16:03 -0700 >> Gary Artim wrote: >> >>> I have 6 nics that I'd like assigned like: >> >>> >>> Any help greatly appreciated! >> >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ >> (I don't

Re: udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/16/13 17:03, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> Frank Murphy wrote: >>> On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:16:03 -0700 >>> Gary Artim wrote: >>> I have 6 nics that I'd like assigned like: >>> Any help greatly appreciated! >>> >>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Softwar

Re: GNOME Classic & Extensions

2013-09-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.09.2013 19:30, schrieb Dan Thurman: > I do not like the Gnome-3 desktop metaphor. I still have F13, waiting > for a Gnome-2 desktop for the latest Fedora release and so far, I am > checking out F18 with MATE. It seems to work for the most part, but > there are some issues/apps that I hope w

Re: GNOME Classic & Extensions

2013-09-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/16/2013 10:30 AM, Dan Thurman wrote: I do not like the Gnome-3 desktop metaphor. I still have F13, waiting for a Gnome-2 desktop for the latest Fedora release and so far, I am checking out F18 with MATE. It seems to work for the most part, but there are some issues/apps that I hope will be

Re: udev/network question

2013-09-16 Thread František Hanzlík
Gary Artim wrote: > I have 6 nics that I'd like assigned like: > > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:3c", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", > NAME="eth0" > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > ATTR{address}=="xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:3d", ATTR{type}

Re: installiing joomla

2013-09-16 Thread Roger
On 09/16/2013 11:08 PM, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2013-09-15 at 21:37 +1000, Roger wrote: I solved it by: cd /var/www/html sudo mkdir tester Ugh... Make special areas (whether they be virtual hosts, or writable areas, etc.) outside of the tree. By way of example, you don't want someone to be able to

Re: GNOME Classic & Extensions

2013-09-16 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 09/16/2013 03:01 AM, Ron Yorston wrote: > I'm the author of the Frippery extensions. The Bottom Panel should work > with GNOME 3.8, though not in Classic mode. If it's not working for you > I'd like to find out why. I went back to non Classic Mode - which I never used - as a I went straight t

Re: installiing joomla

2013-09-16 Thread Rick Stevens
On 09/16/2013 04:44 PM, Roger issued this missive: On 09/16/2013 11:08 PM, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2013-09-15 at 21:37 +1000, Roger wrote: I solved it by: cd /var/www/html sudo mkdir tester Ugh... Make special areas (whether they be virtual hosts, or writable areas, etc.) outside of the tree. By

Re: installiing joomla

2013-09-16 Thread Roger
I solved it by: cd /var/www/html sudo mkdir tester Ugh... Make special areas (whether they be virtual hosts, or writable areas, etc.) outside of the tree. By way of example, you don't want someone to be able to navigate into a virtual host by simply appending the directory name to the end of s

Re: Status of fstrim & MD-RAID

2013-09-16 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 09/16/2013 10:04 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > I don't run a Fedora kernel, but took a short look into > /drivers/md/raid1.c. Looks like RAID1 in Linux supports discard, as > long as the drive itself supports it. Thanks Heinz. Is that the stock 3.10.11? -- Jorge -- users mailing list users@lists

Re: GNOME Classic & Extensions

2013-09-16 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 09/16/2013 08:41 AM, Tim wrote: > As you can see, I am slightly against it. Thanks Tim for sharing. I almost feel the same. In my case, I really never tried it for more than a day until now, with a new machine, I can start using it smoothly. I'm going to give it a couple of weeks before I re

Re: installing joomla /and now/ setting up directory

2013-09-16 Thread Roger
Ugh... Make special areas (whether they be virtual hosts, or writable areas, etc.) outside of the tree. By way of example, you don't want someone to be able to navigate into a virtual host by simply appending the directory name to the end of some other website address. OK!. I set up /publ

Browser question

2013-09-16 Thread Roger
I'm running 3 browsers Opera, firefox and Chromium in Fedora 19 developing another drupal site. I need to have admin and anonymous users in browsers at the same time and find that none of the browsers allow that. Has anyone successfully got FF or Chromium to have 2 instances open and running two

Re: Browser question

2013-09-16 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 17 September 2013 05:03, Roger wrote: > I'm running 3 browsers Opera, firefox and Chromium in Fedora 19 developing > another drupal site. > I need to have admin and anonymous users in browsers at the same time and > find that none of the browsers allow that. > Has anyone successfully got FF or

Re: Browser question

2013-09-16 Thread Roger
On 09/17/2013 02:44 PM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 17 September 2013 05:03, Roger > wrote: I'm running 3 browsers Opera, firefox and Chromium in Fedora 19 developing another drupal site. I need to have admin and anonymous users in browsers at the same time a

Re: Status of fstrim & MD-RAID

2013-09-16 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 17.09.2013, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > Is that the stock 3.10.11? It's 3.11.1 vanilla (from kernel.org), with some minor modifications (which are all not relevant to mdraid). A search via git reveals that discard has been introduced to raid1 by commit 2ff8cc2c6d4e323de71a42affeb3041fa17d5b10 in

Re: installing joomla /and now/ setting up directory

2013-09-16 Thread g
hello roger, On 09/16/2013 09:24 PM, Roger wrote: <> reloaded httpd navigate in browser to http:domain1.ek and it downloads the index.html to my /Downloads folder then Google finds references to that or any other fictitious domain, which I thought could not be real. For example yuruy12rb9.erk