Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/26/2013 10:02 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 26 August 2013, g sent: showing our age, are we not. ;=) No point acquiring it if you can't show it off... ;-) this is true. some kid me about my age and i just grin, and reply that they should pray that they receive such knowledg

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/26/2013 05:14 PM, John Horne wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 15:46 -0500, g wrote: hello john, On 08/26/2013 01:39 PM, John Horne wrote: Hello, Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few problems. The main one is that my wireless interface does not come up (it is an

Re: Reinstall over LVM

2013-08-27 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 08/27/2013 12:02 PM, Roger wrote: > On 27/08/13 15:21, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: >> On 08/27/2013 10:17 AM, Roger wrote: >>> On 27/08/13 14:04, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 08/27/2013 08:04 AM, Roger wrote: > Is it possible to do a re installation of Fedora 19 where the file > system is LVM o

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread John Horne
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 02:18 -0500, g wrote: > > On 08/26/2013 05:14 PM, John Horne wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 15:46 -0500, g wrote: > >> hello john, > >> > >> On 08/26/2013 01:39 PM, John Horne wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have hit a few >

Re: Reinstall over LVM

2013-08-27 Thread Roger
On 27/08/13 18:36, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 08/27/2013 12:02 PM, Roger wrote: On 27/08/13 15:21, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 08/27/2013 10:17 AM, Roger wrote: On 27/08/13 14:04, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 08/27/2013 08:04 AM, Roger wrote: Is it possible to do a re installation of Fedora 19 where the

F19 not able to boot by UUID

2013-08-27 Thread Mark Haney
Hi all, I've had this problem with Fedora since I got this netbook, and have been able to fix it until F19 came along. Here's my problem, for whatever reason the system can see the HDD and install just fine on my Gateway (Samsung) netbook but won't boot after install using the UUID. With F16 a

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/27/2013 04:32 AM, John Horne wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 02:18 -0500, g wrote: On 08/26/2013 05:14 PM, John Horne wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 15:46 -0500, g wrote: hello john, On 08/26/2013 01:39 PM, John Horne wrote: Hello, Updated from F17 to F19 with a fresh install, and have

Re: Reinstall over LVM

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/27/2013 06:34 AM, Roger wrote: <> Puzzling thing I just noticed. I did a fresh install on that Fed18 partition months ago and it has used all available space, 53 gig for root and 43 gig for /home. Might delete the lot and start over. which is another reason why i dislike lvm and set up

Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution

2013-08-27 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 16:19 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 16:04 -0400, Ron wrote: > > When I attempt to login to receive my email from yahoo.com the > > password is not recognized. If I login from the yahoo web page with > > the same password i am able to retreve my incoming messages.

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the user configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Cod

Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/27/2013 07:57 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 16:19 +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 16:04 -0400, Ron wrote: When I attempt to login to receive my email from yahoo.com the password is not recognized. If I login from the yahoo web page with the same password i a

Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution

2013-08-27 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:20:07AM -0500, g wrote: > On 08/27/2013 07:57 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > >I've been seeing this problem as well, but intermittently. After a > >failure and after a few retries, I get my mail again. Haven't been able > >to detect circumstances where it fails relia

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread John Horne
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 15:03 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the user > configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. > NetworkManager is not being used. John. -- John Horne, Plymouth University, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587

Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/27/2013 08:32 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:20:07AM -0500, g wrote: On 08/27/2013 07:57 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I've been seeing this problem as well, but intermittently. After a failure and after a few retries, I get my mail again. Haven't been able t

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 02:34:29PM +0100, John Horne wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 15:03 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > > Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the user > > configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. > > > NetworkManager is not being used.

Re: The One Million Bugs Bunny

2013-08-27 Thread poma
On 27.08.2013 06:05, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: > > A smile and tears of pride from me, for Bugzilla having faithfully and > tirelessly served millions over the years... :-) > :) There, careful and patient reader can find a source of knowledge, as the true value. poma -- users mailing list users@

Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution

2013-08-27 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:04:12AM -0500, g wrote: > > > On 08/27/2013 08:32 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:20:07AM -0500, g wrote: > > > >>On 08/27/2013 07:57 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > >> > >>>I've been seeing this problem as well, but intermittently. After a >

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-27 Thread Gabriel VLASIU
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Tom Horsley wrote: > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > mei module is actually good for. linux-3.10/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt Gabriel - -- // Gabriel VLASIU // // OpenGPG-KeyID : 44952F1

Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/27/2013 09:25 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: <> This was obvious from your question. i guess the :=) was not. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. sl6.3 linux tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscrip

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the user > configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. > I too would suggest that you double-check that the MAC address -- just last week I got the same symptoms

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:02:10 +0300 (EEST) Gabriel VLASIU wrote: > > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the > > mei module is actually good for. > linux-3.10/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt That was the first thing I read. It is an interesting collection of apparently well fo

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread John Horne
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:18 -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu > wrote: > Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the > user > configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. > > > I too would s

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 04:57:04PM +0100, John Horne wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:18 -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu > > wrote: > > Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the > > user > > configurat

Re: Another amusing bug

2013-08-27 Thread Ian Malone
On 27 August 2013 16:40, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:02:10 +0300 (EEST) > Gabriel VLASIU wrote: > >> > Meanwhile, I still can't find out what the heck the >> > mei module is actually good for. >> linux-3.10/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt > > That was the first thing I read.

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread John Horne
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 18:16 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 04:57:04PM +0100, John Horne wrote: > > > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:18 -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu > > > wrote: > > > Check also if the MAC and

unprivileged users can update the system !

2013-08-27 Thread Jehan Procaccia
I am using Fedora19 on hundred of stations for students, to my surprise I noticed that anyone connected locally can update all packages of the station ! the thing is that when the user connect to the station, there's a notifcation that pops-up saying that there are updates available accepting t

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/27/2013 10:57 AM, John Horne wrote: <> The wireless adapter hasn't changed, and the same config files (wpa_supplicant.conf, ifcfg-wlan0) are being used that worked with F17. As said, if I run 'ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0' then the interface comes up. That wouldn't happen if the MAC addres

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread John Horne
On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 12:36 -0500, g wrote: > On 08/27/2013 10:57 AM, John Horne wrote: > <> > > > The wireless adapter hasn't changed, and the same config files > > (wpa_supplicant.conf, ifcfg-wlan0) are being used that worked with F17. > > > > As said, if I run 'ifdown wlan0 && ifup wlan0' then

Re: unprivileged users can update the system !

2013-08-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 07:14:52PM +0200, Jehan Procaccia wrote: > I am using Fedora19 on hundred of stations for students, to my > surprise I noticed that anyone connected locally can update all > packages of the station ! > the thing is that when the user connect to the station, there's a > notif

Re: unprivileged users can update the system !

2013-08-27 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/27/2013 01:14 PM, Jehan Procaccia wrote: > I am using Fedora19 on hundred of stations for students, to my > surprise I noticed that anyone connected locally can update all > packages of the station ! the thing is that when the user connect > to t

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-27 Thread sam tygier
On 25/08/13 22:43, Fred Smith wrote: > One that has been fixed is that on a laptop it wouldn't sleep when the > lid was closed. some related symptoms that seem to go away once that > was fixed include several of the computer-specific function keys on > my Acer Aspire netbook didn't work but now d

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread g
On 08/27/2013 01:02 PM, John Horne wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 12:36 -0500, g wrote: obviously, wpa_supplicant is not getting started during startup. Yes it is. The log file, /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log, shows this. If it wasn't started then 'ifup wlan0' wouldn't work. What isn't happenin

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 06:59:07AM -0700, Ben Greear wrote: > > One thing I noticed, 'gdm' appears to use gnome-shell, so if you have a > system w/out > accelerated graphics, your CPU will still be eaten by gnome-shell even if you > log into > MATE. I don't think that is correct, I have gdm ins

Re: F19 not able to boot by UUID

2013-08-27 Thread Richard Vickery
On Aug 27, 2013 5:08 AM, "Mark Haney" wrote: > > Hi all, I've had this problem with Fedora since I got this netbook, and have been able to fix it until F19 came along. Here's my problem, for whatever reason the system can see the HDD and install just fine on my Gateway (Samsung) netbook but won't

Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?

2013-08-27 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:11:35PM +0100, John Horne wrote: > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 18:16 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 04:57:04PM +0100, John Horne wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:18 -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Mi

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-27 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:27:14PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 06:59:07AM -0700, Ben Greear wrote: > > > > One thing I noticed, 'gdm' appears to use gnome-shell, so if you have a > > system w/out > > accelerated graphics, your CPU will still be eaten by gnome-shell even if

Re: unprivileged users can update the system !

2013-08-27 Thread Jehan Procaccia
Le 27/08/2013 20:17, Stephen Gallagher a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/27/2013 01:14 PM, Jehan Procaccia wrote: I am using Fedora19 on hundred of stations for students, to my surprise I noticed that anyone connected locally can update all packages of the station !

Re: MATE desktop

2013-08-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:05:27AM +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:27:14PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 06:59:07AM -0700, Ben Greear wrote: > > > > > > One thing I noticed, 'gdm' appears to use gnome-shell, so if you have a > > > system w/o

Re: unprivileged users can update the system !

2013-08-27 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 08/28/2013 03:44 AM, Jehan Procaccia wrote: > Le 27/08/2013 20:17, Stephen Gallagher a écrit : > On 08/27/2013 01:14 PM, Jehan Procaccia wrote: I am using Fedora19 on hundred of stations for students, to my surprise I noticed that anyone connected locally can update all packages o