Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/11/2013 11:38 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: Only speaking for myself: I always try to upgrade first, having a complete backup, of course. If it doesn't work, I reinstall. There's nothing to loose, since I'm expecting to reinstall anyway. I've had an update fail too, once. Being retired and havi

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
Joe Zeff wrote: >> that i should set my focus to a perfect english and political correctness >> instead technical facts? sorry, my day has only 24 hours > > No. Some of the people who didn't grow up speaking English are better > at it than you, but you're quite understandable. Not only that, th

Re: NEW RANT OF THE DAY: anaconda is ....

2013-07-12 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 11/07/2013 02:21, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : > Hi > > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:40 PM, François Patte > > wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > This message follow

F18 to F19: shutdown doesn't work in LXDE

2013-07-12 Thread antonio.montagn...@alice.it
Fedup worked fine also on a small old laptop. We have a minor issue, when we try to switch off from the menu, machine doesn't shut down and we have to use the power button to poweroff But if we issue poweroff or reboot when logged as root in text mode with Ctrl+Alt+F2 poweroff or reboot wor

R: F18 to F19: shutdown doesn't work in LXDE

2013-07-12 Thread antonio.montagn...@alice.it
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=981738 here we are :-) Messaggio originale Da: antonio.montagn...@alice.it Data: 12-lug-2013 10.58 A: Ogg: F18 to F19: shutdown doesn't work in LXDE Fedup worked fine also on a small old laptop. We have a minor issue, when we try

Re: Middle mouse button paste

2013-07-12 Thread Ian Chapman
On 11/07/13 22:31, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Would be nice to figure out a long-term solution. Of course, this may not all be helpful to you (in which case, sorry). No problem, thanks Ranjan. At first I thought it was a feature that might have been removed to 'improve' the experience but the two

Re: Fedup 17->18 won't boot, all partitions are GPT

2013-07-12 Thread Ian Chapman
On 12/07/13 10:20, Rick Walker wrote: I did a fedup from F17 to F18 on my work desktop. Now I get an infinite boot loop. Fdisk can't look at the partition table of /dev/sda because it has been coverted to GPT format (who did that?). As near as I can tell, the boot process fails after about 1

how to set up IP forwarding on linux machines?

2013-07-12 Thread Norah Jones
Hi, I have a IP configured which is not visible for another network (suppose IP: A). I have a common machine/switch which is in between two networks, now need to set up IP forwarding such a way that the packets coming to IP: A should be forwarded to that machine correctly. Thanks, Norah Jones

Re: crypted partition

2013-07-12 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 07/11/2013 06:53 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > How can I know what is the physical partition ? You'll find it in /etc/crypttab -- Jorge -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guide

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

2013-07-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 16:24 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > and if you think here that "i" should be "I", sorry it does > not bother me because there are *a lot* of words in the > german language beginning with uppercase letters while > at the same time in context of internet communication > it is of

Re: how to set up IP forwarding on linux machines?

2013-07-12 Thread fedora
sysctl -a |grep forward and then set the needed parameters to 1 for - ipv4/ipv6 - the interface you want using sysctl -w parameter and you will have a router suomi On 2013-07-12 12:19, Norah Jones wrote: Hi, I have a IP configured which is not visible for another network (suppose IP: A). I ha

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

2013-07-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 22:11 -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > Anaconda's screens need to be more wordy to make things clearer > and less scary to the user. Agreed. I found several things confusing about it, especially the partitioning screen, though I finally managed it. However it's worth noting

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

2013-07-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 23:45 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:11 PM, D. Hugh RedelmeierAnaconda's screens > need to be more wordy to make things clearer > and less scary to the user. > > > Perhaps you can file a bug report? It appears in this thread, no

Re: crypted partition

2013-07-12 Thread Todor Petkov
On 12/07/2013 01:53 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, I have a luks partition which is mount at boot time: in /etc/fstab: /dev/mapper/luks-21e00840-01b6-4ba1-8ab2-d4cfe70430e8 /home How can I know what is the physical partition ? df gives: /dev/dm-16   /home blkid gives: /dev/mapper/luks-21e00840

psmouse-alps-1.3 and f19

2013-07-12 Thread Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto
Hi, anybody here has success on compile the psmouse-alps on Fedora 19? I getting this error: *#* cd / # tar xaf /root/psmouse-alps-1.3-alt.tbz *#* cd /usr/src/psmouse-alps-1.3/ # cat dkms.conf # $Id: dkms.conf 742 2013-02-11 17:15:05Z dturvene $ PACKAGE_NAME="psmouse" PACKAGE_VERSION="alps-1.3"

Re: psmouse-alps-1.3 and f19

2013-07-12 Thread Carlos "casep" Sepulveda
On 12 July 2013 09:06, Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto wrote: > Consult the make.log in the build directory > /var/lib/dkms/psmouse/alps-1.3/build/ for more information. And what's the content of that? -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Percy Byss

Re: psmouse-alps-1.3 and f19

2013-07-12 Thread Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Carlos "casep" Sepulveda < ca...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 12 July 2013 09:06, Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto > wrote: > > Consult the make.log in the build directory > > /var/lib/dkms/psmouse/alps-1.3/build/ for more information. > > > And what's the content

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Tim, Many ISPs will, also, have to buy new equipment. For some of them, at great expense. They're not going to do that unless they have to. Some have been avoiding it just because the technicalities of it are a new nightmare that they don't want to have to deal with (new security issues, n

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

2013-07-12 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 July 2013 12:23, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 23:45 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Hi >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:11 PM, D. Hugh RedelmeierAnaconda's screens >> need to be more wordy to make things clearer >> and less scary to the user. >> >> >> Perhaps

new rant of the day: anaconda and fedup are...

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
GREAT ;-) Thanks a lot Fedora developers. []s, Fernando Lozano -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a

Re: R: F18 ti F19: can't create a Java virtual machine

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, Please see bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=983677 for a description of the same issue and a workaround. The default java configured on alternatives doesn't exists. Just change the default to the openjdk entrey ending in ".i386" []s, Fernando Lozano Computer n.1 says

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

2013-07-12 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12/07/2013 05:45, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : > Hi > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:11 PM, D. Hugh RedelmeierAnaconda's screens > need to be more wordy to make things clearer > > and less scary to the user. > > > Perhaps you can file a bug rep

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Fernando Lozano said: > I don't know there, but here ISPs are not well known for investing > in human resources. :-( I'd guess some big corporations will really > adopt IPv6 before most ISPs. I just don't think it's time for SMBs > to work (fight) with IPv6, they should wait for

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-12 Thread Jatin K
On Wednesday 10 July 2013 01:59 AM, staticsafe wrote: http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/ May he rest in peace. RIP ... condolences to his family -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri RHCSA,RHCE,CCNA Regis

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tim said: > How is your firewall set up? When you allow something for IPv4, does it > make a corresponding rule for IPv6, at the same time. Likewise, for if > you block something. And I mean that in two ways, dealing with ports, > and addresses. I may decide to block all port

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, You keep talking about IPv6 security risks (over IPv4), but haven't cited any. While I don't know of security risks of IPv6, itself, there is this: If you follow IPv6 on the net you should have found lots of articles about this, and how it affects specially home users and SMBs. Here are so

Re: psmouse-alps-1.3 and f19

2013-07-12 Thread Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto
Maybe I founded the problem: $ fgrep MOUSE_PS2 /usr/src/kernels/3.9.9-301.fc19.x86_64/.config CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_ALPS=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_LOGIPS2PP=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_SYNAPTICS=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_CYPRESS=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_LIFEBOOK=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_TRACKPOINT=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_E

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Chris, The best practices have largely been agreed to (as much as any best practices ever are). IPv6 is as mature as it can get until a billion end-users get on it. Large ISPs around the world have rolled it out in production. Major OSes support it out-of-the-box. If you don't even try to

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Fernando Lozano said: > IPv6 has alot of "under the carpet" issues because vendors fear too > much discussion about this will delay large-scale use even more. Again: citation needed. Without any actual issues sited, you are just spreading FUD. > I propose we let the billion do

Re: [389-users] problems with dsgw

2013-07-12 Thread Barton, Joseph B.
>Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:55:01 -0600 >From: Rich Megginson >To: 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org >Subject: Re: [389-users] problems with dsgw >Message-ID: <51df1ba5.5010...@redhat.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >On 07/11/2013 02:32 PM, Barton, Joseph B. wrote: >>

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-12 Thread Jatin K
On Friday 12 July 2013 04:29 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: I liked the suggestions of Biker Yum or Yummy Cycles as names for F20. Perhaps could use one of these or similar and have the dedication to him also. Ranjan FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAV

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, Tim: If manufacturers and software programmers don't pull their fingers out, we'll be faced with even more ISPs subjecting their clients to NAT. Fernando Lozano: Would this be so bad? Most people at work have been working using NAT for years. NAT increases security. Most internet users do

Re: Fedup from 17 -> 19 okay?

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Me also, except for the Java issue (which is easy to fix using alternatives). If anyone is interested, it worked fine. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: Can I skip 18 and upgrade from 17 to 19 with fedup? Has anyone tried this with success or failure? -- users maili

Re: [OT] Seth Vidal, creator of "yum" killed in bike accident

2013-07-12 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
+1 to Yummy Cycles LAILAH -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraprojec

Re: [389-users] problems with dsgw

2013-07-12 Thread Rich Megginson
On 07/12/2013 08:33 AM, Barton, Joseph B. wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:55:01 -0600 From: Rich Megginson To: 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: [389-users] problems with dsgw Message-ID: <51df1ba5.5010...@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 07/11/

Re: [Samba] About NAS versus Samba

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Andrew, I work on a NAS product myself, and at this vendor and my previous vendor Samba 4.0 as an AD DC was all I ever needed to use to test the AD integration features of the NAS. Thanks, Andrew Bartlett Please tell me which product this is, so I can contact the local reseller. :-) You ca

idea for F20 release name to honor Seth

2013-07-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:48:00AM -0300, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: > +1 to Yummy Cycles The F20 name nomination period is officially over, but we haven't had the vote yet. I suppose this should be a ticket with FESCO or the Fedora Board if people are really interested in making this happen. https://

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, NAT is a fact today, has been for years, and people have been using Bittorrent and Skype regardless. And sometimes they (and other applications) don't work, because of things like layered NAT. Fix NAT issues instead of ditch it altogether. For home users and SMBs, NAT is something that w

Re: idea for F20 release name to honor Seth

2013-07-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
When this came up in reference to Dennis Ritchie's death during the F16 development cycle, the decision was made to do a dedication rather than naming the release after him. This isn't identical to the situation with Seth since he was a community member, but I still think the reasoning applies.

Re: idea for F20 release name to honor Seth

2013-07-12 Thread Clive Hills
+1 to do what we did re Dennis. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > When this came up in reference to Dennis Ritchie's death during the F16 > development cycle, the decision was made to do a dedication rather than > naming the release after him. This isn't identical to the

Re: [GW-C] [ECOTONE] Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

2013-07-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:45 AM, François Patte < francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Le 12/07/2013 05:45, Rahul Sundaram a écrit : > > > File a bug report on what? So many problems with this "new" anaconda! > the partitionning pro

Re: Fedup 17->18 won't boot, all partitions are GPT

2013-07-12 Thread Rick Walker
Hi Ian, > > I did a fedup from F17 to F18 on my work desktop. Now I get an > > infinite boot loop. Fdisk can't look at the partition table of > > /dev/sda because it has been coverted to GPT format (who did that?). Ian Chapman writes: > When dealing with GPT partition tables, parted is proba

Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi Chris, [As I changed the subject, let me clear: IPv6 still compiled in the kernel. Just the network interfaces configs that should come with IPv6 disabled by default, if the user wants it should be easy to enable] Once upon a time, Fernando Lozano said: IPv6 has alot of "under the carpe

Re: idea for F20 release name to honor Seth

2013-07-12 Thread Ranjan Maitra
I agree, but we are not suggesting naming the release after him, but something that some of us think would be a good but indirect way of honoring him. Of course, I would not mind dropping the naming process altogether Ranjan On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:31:03 +0100 Clive Hills wrote: > +1 to do

Re: [389-users] 389 directory server crash

2013-07-12 Thread Rich Megginson
On 07/12/2013 08:22 AM, Mitja Mihelič wrote: On 07/09/2013 03:34 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 07/09/2013 06:43 AM, Mitja Mihelič wrote: Hi! We are having problems with some our 389-DS instances. They crash after receiving an update from the provider. After looking at the stack trace, I thin

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, I took me time to recover this one, another more techinical content about IPv6 security: http://w3.antd.nist.gov/iip_pubs/Montgomery-ipv6-security-findings.doc []s, Fernando Lozano Hi, You keep talking about IPv6 security risks (over IPv4), but haven't cited any. While I don't know o

RE: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv4/6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread J.Witvliet
If you got scared, why not keep the entire network down? If you want it, sure you can enable it ;-) Enjoy your weekend. -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Fernando Lozano Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 5

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-12 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/12/2013 03:19 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/11/2013 11:38 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: Only speaking for myself: I always try to upgrade first, having a complete backup, of course. If it doesn't work, I reinstall. There's nothing to loose, since I'm expecting to reinstall anyway. I've had an updat

Re: services vs firewall

2013-07-12 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 07/11/2013 10:41 PM, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:09:15 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> One question. Is the nfs server running? >> > > Thanks, good catch! I too figured it wasn't running because nmap reports > closed if the port is open, but nothing's listening on it. So I

RE: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv4/6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: If you got scared, why not keep the entire network down? If you want it, sure you can enable it ;-) That is what I do. If I'm using my computer and need internet access, I just click on the start-listening icon. Said icon then becomes a stop-lis

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv4/6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, If you got scared, why not keep the entire network down? If you want it, sure you can enable it ;-) By your reasoning, Fedora doesn't need to provide secure installation defaults. Anyone could craft their own iptables rules and selinux policies if they feed a need for better security. And

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, [As I changed the subject, let me clear: IPv6 still compiled in the kernel. Just the network interfaces configs that should come with IPv6 disabled by default, if the user wants it should be easy to enable] exactly *that* is my point it is ridiculous that i bave a clearly static ipv4 conf

F19 nouveau corrupted graphics

2013-07-12 Thread Jon Dufresne
Hello, I am currently running F17. As it is nearing end of life, I am anxious to upgrade. Around kernel 3.7, I started to experience very heavy graphics slowdown and corruption. I reported a bug around the time I experienced it < https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=912459>. Because F17 has

Re: F19 nouveau corrupted graphics

2013-07-12 Thread Kevin Martin
On 07/12/13 11:56, Jon Dufresne wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently running F17. As it is nearing end of life, I am anxious to > upgrade. Around kernel 3.7, I started to experience very > heavy graphics slowdown and corruption. I reported a bug around the time I > experienced it >

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, hence it would be enough if "ifup" would respect the configuration i can not see "just having IPv6 enabled means there is an IPv6 address" below - where is there ipv6 enabled? there is even a "IPV6INIT=no" I have overlooked that. I'm not a Fedora developer, have to check if IPV6INIT means wh

Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19: smpboot: CPU2: Not responding. The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it without having to power off the computer? Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org T

Re: Problems running emacs under Fedora-19

2013-07-12 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Fri, 2013-07-12 at 09:01 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/12/13 08:35, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > When I attempt to run emacs it fails: > > > > $ emacs > > emacs: error while loading shared libraries: libgnutls.so.26: > > cannot open shared object file: No such file or

Re: F19 nouveau corrupted graphics

2013-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2013 18:56, Jon Dufresne wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently running F17. As it is nearing end of life, I am anxious to > upgrade. Around kernel 3.7, I started to experience very heavy graphics > slowdown and corruption. I reported a bug around the time I experienced it < > https://bugzill

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread David G . Miller
Fernando Lozano lozano.eti.br> writes: > > Hi, > > > [As I changed the subject, let me clear: IPv6 still compiled in the kernel. Just the network interfaces configs Perhaps Fedora is the wrong distribution for you. The whole idea behind Fedora is for it to be an "engineering proving groun

Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19: > > smpboot: CPU2: Not responding. > > The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it > without having to power off the computer? I believe that the cause of

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2013 18:44, Fernando Lozano wrote: … > So, ifconfig or ip or whatever would have to disable IPv6 for any > interface that does not having an explicit IPv6 address. I'd think it > would be easier to have the default eth*-cfg files and Network Manager > disable IPv6 unless the user tells the

Re: how to pxe boot using Fedora 19 live CDs

2013-07-12 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 13:09 -0700, Jerome Yanga wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: > > > I have tried many configs and have failed to pxe boot a live Fedora 19 cd. > > I need help in the boot parameters. Here is my current one. > > > > LABEL fedora_x86_64_19 > > MENU

Fwd: Touchpad is not working anymore

2013-07-12 Thread Diego Vargas
Hello All, I just wanted to let you know that I fixed my problem. Finally. It seems Windows unactivated the touchpad with something like the Fn+F5. So, after 4 days of research, many many people said that using a fedora live cd and then pressing the Fn+F5 there it will activate it. Even that solut

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/12/2013 09:10 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: See?...it's stuff like the stories above that make me hesitant to go from 18 to 19 Why? Something went wrong. Once. I spent several days, off and on, cleaning up cruft and duplicate packages from a CLI, got the GUI working and all was we

Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

2013-07-12 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released? What are the main reasons? Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: ht

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

2013-07-12 Thread Digimer
On 12/07/13 15:45, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released? What are the main reasons? Thanks in advance, Paul Access to newer versions of software and the features they add. In general, it's personal preference. How "bleeding edge" do yo

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

2013-07-12 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/12/2013 03:33 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/12/2013 09:10 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: See?...it's stuff like the stories above that make me hesitant to go from 18 to 19 Why? Something went wrong. Once. I spent several days, off and on, cleaning up cruft and duplicate packages from a

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

2013-07-12 Thread Steven Stern
On 07/12/2013 02:45 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released? What > are the main reasons? > Assuming you're on a version that still gets support, patches, and updates: 1. If you've chosen Fedora, it's because you like living near t

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

2013-07-12 Thread Temlakos
On 07/12/2013 03:45 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released? What are the main reasons? Thanks in advance, Paul Today we have an upgrade tool that makes the upgrade process almost seamless. That is, as long as you upgrade every time.

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

2013-07-12 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 07/12/2013 03:45 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released? What are the main reasons? Thanks in advance, Paul As far as it was explained to me: you're not REALLY required to upgrade, if the version you're using suits your purposes. Th

Re: Why should one upgrade Fedora whenever a new version is released?

2013-07-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/12/2013 12:51 PM, Temlakos wrote: Today we have an upgrade tool that makes the upgrade process almost seamless. That is, as long as you upgrade every time. Miss a version, and you're in trouble. Miss two or three versions, and any major change will force you to do a complete, wipe-your-driv

Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19: >> >> smpboot: CPU2: Not responding. >> >> The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it >> without having to power off the computer? > > https://www.kern

Re: F19 nouveau corrupted graphics

2013-07-12 Thread Jon Dufresne
> lspci -nn | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTX] [10de:0191] (rev a2) > yum install > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel/3.11.0/0.rc0.git6.1.fc20/x86_64/kernel-3.11.0-0.rc0.git6.1.fc20.x86_64.rpm Should I be able to test th

Re: Fwd: Touchpad is not working anymore

2013-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2013 21:27, Diego Vargas wrote: > Hello All, > > I just wanted to let you know that I fixed my problem. Finally. > It seems Windows unactivated the touchpad with something like the Fn+F5. > So, after 4 days of research, many many people said that using a fedora > live cd and then pressing

TPM for rngd

2013-07-12 Thread Ian Pilcher
Anyone know how to use rngd with a TPM? I've checked that the TPM is turned on in my BIOS, and I'm able to load the tpm module, but rngd still fails, because /dev/tpm0 doesn't exist. Any pointers appreciated. Thanks! -- I

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread dave
> > > Am 12.07.2013 20:24, schrieb David G.Miller: >> Fernando Lozano lozano.eti.br> writes: [As I changed the subject, let me clear: IPv6 still compiled in the >> kernel. Just the network interfaces configs >> >> >> Perhaps Fedora is the wrong distribution for you. >> >> The whole idea behi

Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/12/2013 01:00 PM, Paul Smith issued this missive: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19: smpboot: CPU2: Not responding. The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it without having to p

Re: how to pxe boot using Fedora 19 live CDs

2013-07-12 Thread Jerome Yanga
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 13:09 -0700, Jerome Yanga wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jerome Yanga >wrote: > > > > > I have tried many configs and have failed to pxe boot a live Fedora 19 > cd. > > > I need help in the boot para

Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/12/2013 01:43 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Power cycling (more specifically thermal cycling) is harder on the hardware than simply leaving it on. In my 35+ years in electronics, generally if a piece of equipment is going to die, it's going to do so during power up or a really big swing in temper

Re: F18 to F19: shutdown doesn't work in LXDE

2013-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2013 10:58, antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: > > > Fedup worked fine also on a small old laptop. > > We have a minor issue, when we try to switch off from the menu, machine > doesn't shut down and we have to use the power button to poweroff > > But if we issue poweroff or reboot w

Re: R: F18 to F19: shutdown doesn't work in LXDE

2013-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2013 11:12, antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=981738 > > here we are :-) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800658 poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: ht

Re: how to pxe boot using Fedora 19 live CDs

2013-07-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/12/2013 01:44 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: Yup. I have tried that. I get an out of memory error or the connection times out. That doesn't sound right. How much RAM and swap do you have? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, >> Perhaps Fedora is the wrong distribution for you. >> >> The whole idea behind Fedora is for it to be an "engineering proving >> ground" where new technologies (like IPv6) are rolled out for real world >> use. Not all Fedora users work in the networking fields. Many are developers who doesn't

Re: F19 nouveau corrupted graphics

2013-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2013 22:05, Jon Dufresne wrote: >> lspci -nn | grep VGA > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce > 8800 GTX] [10de:0191] (rev a2) > >> yum install >> > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel/3.11.0/0.rc0.git6.1.fc20/x86_64/kernel-3.11.0-0.r

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, >> Have you checked https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982740? > yes i have "NETWORKING_IPV6=no" since virtually forever > in "/etc/sysconfig/network" as well as "IPV6INIT=false" > in the interface configurations > > this was most time ignored I wasn't aware this bug was so serious. P

[389-users] Accessing TCP options data in 389ds Hello,

2013-07-12 Thread Justin Kinney
Hello, I'm investigating the possibility of logging client IP address where 389ds is deployed behind a load balancer. Today, we lose the true client IP address as the source IP is replaced with the load balancer's before the packet hits the 389 host. Has anybody solved this issue before? For HTTP

Re: [389-users] Accessing TCP options data in 389ds Hello,

2013-07-12 Thread Rich Megginson
On 07/12/2013 03:25 PM, Justin Kinney wrote: Hello, I'm investigating the possibility of logging client IP address where 389ds is deployed behind a load balancer. Today, we lose the true client IP address as the source IP is replaced with the load balancer's before the packet hits the 389 hos

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/12/2013 02:17 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: 1. Users should be able to disable IPv6. Today they can't and this is a bug that hopefully will be solved soon. I think no one ever intended IPv6 to be mandatory. ;-) Actually, they can, but they have to take the time to configure the connection i

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi joe, > On 07/12/2013 02:17 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: >> 1. Users should be able to disable IPv6. Today they can't and this is a >> bug that hopefully will be solved soon. I think no one ever intended >> IPv6 to be mandatory. ;-) > > Actually, they can, but they have to take the time to configur

possibly OT: finding the right plugins for Firefox on F19

2013-07-12 Thread Fred Smith
Hi all! I've got F19 on one of my netbooks, and F17 on the other. the F17 netbook has no trouble playing itunes movie trailers, while the F19 one displays a black window with the video controls, but won't actually play anything. I've just spent over an hour comparing the FF plugins on the two mac

Re: TPM for rngd

2013-07-12 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 07/12/2013 03:14 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Anyone know how to use rngd with a TPM? I've checked that the TPM is > turned on in my BIOS, and I'm able to load the tpm module, but rngd > still fails, because /dev/tpm0 doesn't exist. Had to install kernel-modules-extra to get tpm_tis.ko. -- =

Re: [389-users] Accessing TCP options data in 389ds Hello,

2013-07-12 Thread Grzegorz Dwornicki
That is true but load balancer iptables see incoming requests as they are. I'm not sure that this is what you need. What information you wish to receive? Besides the real client IP? 12 lip 2013 23:48, "Justin Kinney" napisał(a): > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Grzegorz Dwornicki wrote: >

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/12/2013 02:38 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: IMHO "have to look" should not be required by most users. IPv6 today serves networing people. Fedora is not only for networking people, and I from my experience most Fedora users are not networking people. Do we have data about Fedora user demographi

Re: Proposal: Fedora should install with IPv6 disabled by default [was: Re: Disabling ipv6]

2013-07-12 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi, > On 12.07.2013 18:44, Fernando Lozano wrote: > … >> So, ifconfig or ip or whatever would have to disable IPv6 for any >> interface that does not having an explicit IPv6 address. I'd think it >> would be easier to have the default eth*-cfg files and Network Manager >> disable IPv6 unless the us

Re: F19 nouveau corrupted graphics

2013-07-12 Thread Jon Dufresne
> > Should I be able to test this on FC17 before upgrading to FC19 to test > this > > works before re-installing the system? > > Isn't it obvious? :) > Keep in mind neither the upgrade doesn't guarantee anything regarding. > > I see. In that case how could I verify if an updated kernel fixes the b

Cannot login into home directory

2013-07-12 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, When I login, I get the following problem: -- psmith: /home/psmith: change directory failed: Permission denied I have the following: drwx--. 191 psmith psmith 12288 Jul 12 23:13 psmith Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: F19 nouveau corrupted graphics

2013-07-12 Thread poma
On 12.07.2013 23:55, Jon Dufresne wrote: >>> Should I be able to test this on FC17 before upgrading to FC19 to test >> this >>> works before re-installing the system? >> >> Isn't it obvious? :) >> Keep in mind neither the upgrade doesn't guarantee anything regarding. >> >> > I see. > > In that cas

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread David Beveridge
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > Can you give a practical example, please. I've no reason to disbelieve you, > but I've also never run across such a case and would like to see one. > This kind of depends on what iptables or firewall rules you have, but for a moment lets assume

Re: Cannot login into home directory

2013-07-12 Thread Steven Stern
On 07/12/2013 05:27 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > When I login, I get the following problem: > > -- psmith: /home/psmith: change directory failed: Permission denied > > I have the following: > > drwx--. 191 psmith psmith 12288 Jul 12 23:13 psmith > > Any ideas? > > Thanks in advan

Re: Disabling ipv6

2013-07-12 Thread James Hogarth
> This kind of depends on what iptables or firewall rules you have, > but for a moment lets assume that you allow "related" connections on your input. > > What this means is to allow anything you connect outbound to to be > trusted to make a reverse connection back to you. > > So you are therefore

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