Re: "hackers"

On 04/25/2013 09:31 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/24/2013 04:11 PM, Roger wrote: Continuing to educate the masses is the only way that people will learn the real meaning. Quoting the wrong person! Roger didn't write that at all. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

Am 25.04.2013 01:25, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/24/2013 02:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> as any other kernel-param in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and >> /etc/default/grub while the latter is what will be used >> by grub2-mkconfig > > Checking, my /etc/default/grub contains SYSFONT=True and I'm wonderin

Re: "hackers"

On 04/25/2013 12:31 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/24/2013 04:11 PM, Roger wrote: Continuing to educate the masses is the only way that people will learn the real meaning. As you can see here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geezer, the original meaning of the term Geezer, as still used in the UK, is

Re: "hackers"

On 25.04.2013 11:31, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 04/25/2013 12:31 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 04/24/2013 04:11 PM, Roger wrote: >>> Continuing to educate the masses is the only way that people will learn >>> the real meaning. >> >> As you can see here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geezer, the original

f17 -> f18, fedora-upgrade, all is well but slapd

I have upgraded f17 to f18 w/ fedora-upgrade and all went smoothly :) only this issue: # slapcat 51792415 bdb(dc=my-domain,dc=com): BDB1538 Program version 5.3 doesn't match environment version 5.2 51792415 bdb_db_open: database "dc=my-domain,dc=com" cannot be opened, err -30969. Restore from b

Re: f17 -> f18, fedora-upgrade, all is well but slapd

can a program out of the bdb-utils help you? $ rpm -ql libdb-utils /usr/bin/db_archive /usr/bin/db_checkpoint /usr/bin/db_deadlock /usr/bin/db_dump /usr/bin/db_dump185 /usr/bin/db_hotbackup /usr/bin/db_load /usr/bin/db_log_verify /usr/bin/db_printlog /usr/bin/db_recover /usr/bin/db_replicate /usr

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Re: "hackers"

On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:31 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > Exactly - go back to the middle ages and all children, whether male or > female, were called 'girls'. A son was a 'knave girl' and a daughter a > 'gay girl'. And 'boy' meant a servant. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: How to configure yum to not check for free inodes?

On 04/24/2013 10:40 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 04/24/2013 03:35 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Which is just plain wong in case of nilfs, as it has no inode limit. What does 'stat -f /' return on that system? Well this is a strange beast: [root@turre mnt]# stat -f . File: "." ID: 7010

Re: f17 -> f18, fedora-upgrade, all is well but slapd

On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:34:15 +0200 fedora wrote: many thnx this solved form me http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-March/432826.html -m smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: "hackers"

On Apr 25, 2013 3:51 AM, "Mateusz Marzantowicz" wrote: > > On 25.04.2013 11:31, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > > On 04/25/2013 12:31 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 04/24/2013 04:11 PM, Roger wrote: > >>> Continuing to educate the masses is the only way that people will learn > >>> the real meaning. > >> > >

Re: Configuring emacs in F18

The question is even beyond of the color customization, because in the echo area doesn't appear a message showing if it reads the .emacs file or even the, it just reads from the "site-lisp" directory/folder/whatever, so any way I re-formulate the question: With that information showed int echo are

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Apr 24, 2013 2:31 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > Am 24.04.2013 23:21, schrieb Phil Dobbin: > > On 04/24/2013 05:55 PM, poma wrote: > > > >> On 24.04.2013 16:17, Regina Anger wrote: > >>> Hello Ed, > >>> > Yes, it has been mentioned on the "test" list several times. > It has been s

Re: Configuring emacs in F18

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:23:02AM -0600, Wilbert Isaac Cortés González wrote: > The question is even beyond of the color customization, because in the echo > area doesn't appear a message showing if it reads the .emacs file or even > the, it just reads from the "site-lisp" directory/folder/whatev

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and > didn't > have an option to boot into it on grub; ought I have added the a link > to > the new kernel? I went to do this, but none of the files in grub2 look > like > the "

Re: "hackers"

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:17:53AM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: .snip. > > Ignore and move on? Would you say the same thing if we, the state, threw > you in prison for the use of the term? Civil society already does. Case in > point: use of the term "my account has been

Re: "hackers"

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:17:53AM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > > .snip. > > > > Ignore and move on? Would you say the same thing if we, the state, threw > > you in prison for the use of the term? Civil society

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > > I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and > > didn't > > have an option to boot into it on grub; ought I have added the a link > > to > > the new ke

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 13:12:43 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: Frankly, I don't exactly know where this exact list is, and not being on that list, it is impossible both to get a reply AND to get mail that I replied to, such as I did here. I know how governments, courts, legislation, and such

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

Around 09:12pm on Thursday, April 25, 2013 (UK time), Richard Vickery scrawled: > Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the > internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I > continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might >

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/25/2013 01:12 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and > d

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the >> internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I >> continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it >> might be possible to take

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> wrote: Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. As a matter of fact, this group has done everything it could to help you. It's repeatedly told you where

Re: Configuring emacs in F18

So what I do?, I don't "feel" the changes, I mean I had to do an .el file in site-lisp directory and make the changes directly in it; I think it is not the best way to do it; but it's the only way I figured out, I read the emacs manual and everything, but the customization should be in .emacs, and

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" wrote: > > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens > > wrote: >> >> >> Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the >

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/25/2013 02:25 PM, Joe Zeff issued this missive: On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. As a matter of fact, this group has done everything

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/25/2013 02:38 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> wrote: > > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens mailto:ri...@alldigital.c

Re: Configuring emacs in F18

You know what? Something weird has happen, now it's read my .emacs file... nevermind. Thanks for the help! -Isaac On 25 April 2013 15:37, Wilbert Isaac Cortés González < w.isaac.cor...@gmail.com> wrote: > So what I do?, I don't "feel" the changes, I mean I had to do an .el file > in sit

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 04/25/2013 02:38 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: > >> >> On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" > > wrote: >> > >> > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: >> >> >> >> >> >>

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/25/2013 03:10 PM, Patrick Lists issued this missive: On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rat

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Patrick Lists < fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote: > On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking >> that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. >> >> If I am o

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 02:21:18PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: > > >If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? [...chomp...chomp...chomp...] > The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that >

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 14:42 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > I think that many of the responses Richard received read as "you're > asking the wrong list, go away and ask on the correct list" without > ever telling him what the correct list WAS. Rick If you check back in the archives you'll see that I

"This print job requires a PostScript Language Level 3 Printer"

So I need to ship back some defective merchandize. The vendor sends me a link to a UPS return label, I open it in Firefox, and try to print it. The printer is an HP 1320. When I try to print it, the printer blinks happily for a few seconds, but stays quiet, and Fedora tells me that the prin

Re: I must be missing something basic

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:05:24 -0700 Dave Stevens wrote: > I want to transfer a dvd image from my laptop (ubuntu 12.04.2) to my fedora > 18 box that has selinux disabled. Wired connection to my router allows F18 to > browse to U12 and see the file and right click copy, but trying to paste into >

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/26/2013 12:23 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: [snip] The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log Right, sorry I missed that you tried a fedup. I'm afraid I don't have a solution. I never used fedup nor did an upgrade. I always do a clean install to prevent t

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

Am 25.04.2013 23:04, schrieb Richard Vickery: > Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking > that, unlike what the website says, this > group is not so helpful. > > If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? > > $ uname -rsvp > Linux 3.7.2-20

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

Am 26.04.2013 01:03, schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 25.04.2013 23:04, schrieb Richard Vickery: >> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking >> that, unlike what the website says, this >> group is not so helpful. >> >> If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rat

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

Hi Rick, Your suspicions are correct: $ cat /etc/issue Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow) Kernel \r on an \m (\l) On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 04/25/2013 03:10 PM, Patrick Lists issued this missive: > > On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: >> >>> Thank y

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 26.04.2013 01:03, schrieb Reindl Harald: > > Am 25.04.2013 23:04, schrieb Richard Vickery: > >> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than > thinking that, unlike what the website says, this > >> group is not so he

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

Am 26.04.2013 01:35, schrieb Richard Vickery: > Reindl: > > I am now on 3.8 after # yum update kernel* earlier today.. which leaves the question open why are you on a 3.7.x from 2013-01 until today while others have their production servers for more than a month on 3.8.x Mar 10 17:11:47 Insta

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/26/13 06:23, Richard Vickery wrote: > The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log This will be my only comment on your issue since, as others have noted, matters related to F19 need to be addressed on the t...@lists.fedoraproject.org list I just tried

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/26/13 06:23, Richard Vickery wrote: > > The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog > fedupdebug.log > > This will be my only comment on your issue since, as others have noted, > matters related to F19 need to be addre

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/26/13 08:39, Richard Vickery wrote: > Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test list, > is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. > > rpm -qa | grep fc19 produced nothing. How am I supposed to write this to the > test list when there is no con

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/26/13 08:39, Richard Vickery wrote: > > Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test > list, is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. > > > > rpm -qa | grep fc19 produced nothing. How am I sup

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/26/13 08:57, Richard Vickery wrote: > Fine by me if you don't want the help. You totally misunderstand. It isn't a matter of not wanting to help. It is a matter of you're asking questions about F19 and you've not upgraded to F19!!! So See you on the test list Where you ha

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/25/2013 05:49 PM, Ed Greshko issued this missive: On 04/26/13 08:39, Richard Vickery wrote: Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test list, is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. rpm -qa | grep fc19 produced nothing. How am I supposed to

Re: "This print job requires a PostScript Language Level 3 Printer"

On 04/25/2013 06:40 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: So I need to ship back some defective merchandize. The vendor sends me a link to a UPS return label, I open it in Firefox, and try to print it. The printer is an HP 1320. When I try to print it, the printer blinks happily for a few seconds, but s

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/26/13 09:06, Rick Stevens wrote: > (I don't think fedup is really fully baked yet). It isn't. For grins, I just tried it on a fully updated F18 system using fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog /root/fed1.log --instrepo http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/19-

Re: "hackers"

On 04/24/2013 03:46 AM, Steve Underwood wrote: On 04/24/2013 02:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/23/2013 07:42 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Does anyone care to help me change the negative connotation that the outside world has of this term, one step at a time? Sorry, but it's a tad late to lock up

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

On 04/25/2013 05:39 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test list, is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. I'd think that the people on that list would want to know that you're unable to install F19 with fedup and th