On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Rick Stevens <ri...@alldigital.com> wrote:
> On 04/25/2013 02:38 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: > >> >> On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" <ri...@alldigital.com >> <mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> wrote: >> > >> > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens <ri...@alldigital.com >> <mailto:ri...@alldigital.com> >> >> <mailto:ri...@alldigital.com <mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>>**> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here >> on the >> >> internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This >> is why I >> >> continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more >> >> helpful, it >> >> might be possible to take this question and post it to the >> >> correct list. >> >> >> >> >> >> The correct list for pre-release variants of Fedora (e.g. F19) is >> >> "t...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> <mailto:test@lists.**fedoraproject.org <t...@lists.fedoraproject.org>> >> <mailto:test@lists.**fedoraproject.org <t...@lists.fedoraproject.org><mailto: >> test@lists.**fedoraproject.org <t...@lists.fedoraproject.org>>>" >> >> >> >> >> (a.k.a. "The Fedora Test List"). You have >> >> to join that list in the same manner as you joined this list. >> >> >> >> All discussions about pre-released software (e.g. "F19", >> "rawhide", >> >> even updates of code for existing releases) occur on that list. >> Once >> >> F19 (or an updated RPM for an existing package) is released, then >> >> discussions regarding that released code shift over to THIS list. >> >> >> >> In answer to your other question, grub2 is the default boot for >> F19 and >> >> grub2 looks a lot different than grub did. The fedup operation >> makes >> >> your system F19 and hence you aren't offered the old grub stuff. >> Also, >> >> being on F19 prevents us from answering a lot of your questions >> since >> >> most people on this list don't use F19 (yet). >> >> >> >> I belong to both lists (test and users). I have an F19 machine for >> >> experimental purposes, but I'm not a seasoned F19 user. Some other >> >> members of this list are also members of test, but the reverse is >> >> certainly NOT true (most test members never even look at this >> list). >> >> >> ------------------------------**__----------------------------** >> --__---------- >> >> >> >> - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital >> ri...@alldigital.com <mailto:ri...@alldigital.com> >> >> <mailto:ri...@alldigital.com <mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> - >> >> >> >> >> - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: >> origrps2 - >> >> - >> - >> >> - You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to >> roll - >> >> - over and float on his back...you got something! >> - >> >> >> ------------------------------**__----------------------------** >> --__---------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than >> thinking >> >> that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. >> >> >> >> If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? >> > >> > >> > Ok, that's one we can probably handle. You can run newer systems on >> > older kernels (many people do). It's not recommended but sometimes >> > necessary if, for example, you have older hardware that newer kernels >> > have orphaned for some reason. >> > >> > The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that >> > blocks upgrades in kernels (although I'd expect fedup to bypass that >> > somehow). Look in your various /etc/yum* files and see if you have an >> > "exclude=kernel*" thing in there. Quick check (as root): >> > >> > # cd /etc >> > # grep -R exclude yum* >> > >> > Look for "exclude=" lines that aren't commented >> >> I don't get anything. >> > > Hmmm, that's interesting. If you try to update your kernel specifically > in a trial, what sort of messages do you get? You can try (as root): > > # yum update kernel* > > and see if you get any indications that something's being blocked. > ------------------------------**------------------------------**---------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com - > > > Thanks Rick.
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