Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread g
On 04/15/2013 01:42 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/14/2013 11:36 AM, g wrote: On 04/13/2013 05:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <<> My guess is that your reference counts servers, because mine gets most of its numbers from webserver hit logs. web server hits is a more realistic view of what is in use.

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2013 10:16, schrieb g: > On 04/15/2013 01:42 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 04/14/2013 11:36 AM, g wrote: >>> >>> On 04/13/2013 05:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> <<> >>> My guess is that your reference counts servers, because mine gets most of its numbers from webserver hit logs. >>> >>

Re: F 18 problem accessing external usb drives with XFS

2013-04-15 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 15.04.2013, Paul Erickson wrote: > I have a couple of external disks that I formatted in XFS using F11, I think > for data backup. Now with a new F 18 installation, when I plug > in the drive, the disk icons appear on the desktop, but when I try to access > them, I get an error message stating

Create a LiveCD with a static-IP config as default in NetworkManager?

2013-04-15 Thread Fernando Cassia
I wonder if it's possible to modify a Fedora LiveCD to include a static-IP config in the default ethernet NIC instead of the default (which is to use DHCP), DNS etc?. Is there a single file that network manager uses for its default config?. If yes, that'd allow me to change a single file instead

Re: Create a LiveCD with a static-IP config as default in NetworkManager?

2013-04-15 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 08:35:16AM -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I wonder if it's possible to modify a Fedora LiveCD to include a > static-IP config in the default ethernet NIC > instead of the default (which is to use DHCP), DNS etc?. > > Is there a single file that network manager uses for it

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Thomas Cameron wrote: His data and apps must not be very important to him if he won't pony up $349 for a commercially supported OS. https://www.redhat.com/wapps/store/catalog.html It never ceases to amaze me that people will run their businesses - the thing that feeds

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2013 15:50, schrieb Bill Oliver: > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Thomas Cameron wrote: >> >> His data and apps must not be very important to him if he won't pony up $349 >> for a commercially supported OS. >> https://www.redhat.com/wapps/store/catalog.html >> >> It never ceases to amaze me th

Re: Samba 4

2013-04-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 03/28/2013 02:23 PM, Gabriel VLASIU wrote: > Unfortunately, no. :-( It seems the samba manual is not telling the truth or there are defaults set that the manual has not been updated to display. I fixed this by setting the following variable: force create mode = 0775 You may also need to use

[OT] ffmpeg buffer underflow

2013-04-15 Thread Mark Haney
I know this is slightly off topic, but it's driving me nuts and I want to see what the Fedora community says before I have to hit up the ffmpeg list.  I've been using ffmpeg for years converting digital video into DVD format.  The basic command line hasn't changed for me: ffmpeg -i [inputfile.a

Re: F 18 problem accessing external usb drives with XFS

2013-04-15 Thread Paul Erickson
On 04/15/2013 03:47 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 15.04.2013, Paul Erickson wrote: I have a couple of external disks that I formatted in XFS using F11, I think for data backup. Now with a new F 18 installation, when I plug in the drive, the disk icons appear on the desktop, but when I try to access

F 18 disk management tool

2013-04-15 Thread Paul Erickson
On switching to F 18, whenever I try to use the "disk management" tool under "system tools" I get this message: There are no filesystems which you are allowed to mount or unmount. Contact your administrator. In previous versions of Fedora, I could access this tool without difficulty. What do I

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Tim
Tim: >>> It became the biggest OS infestation by devious business practices >>> shoehorning it into personal computers. David: >> Careful. Your paranoia is showing. :-) g: > that is not paranoia, it is a fact that cause a grand jury investigation. > > or, are you old enough to be aware of such?

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:42:56PM -0700, Edward M wrote: > On 4/14/2013 7:22 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: > >Alternatively, you can get a self-support subscription for > >commercial use for $349: > > Give $349 to RedHat just for talking to myself(self- support):-); > Using either centos or

Re: SELinux fails to apply local policy module

2013-04-15 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/14/2013 06:38 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi, > > I use CrossOver (based on Wine) to run a Windows game. Everytime CrossOver > runs something, I get this avc denial. > > SELinux is preventing wine-preloader from mmap_zero access on the > memprote

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 14 April 2013, Thomas Cameron sent: > It never ceases to amaze me that people will run their businesses - > the thing that feeds their families and employees' families - on > cobbled together systems with community-supported distros. Or me, that they'd do it on Windows, ser

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Tethys
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: >> The annoying thing is, I'd *gladly* pay Red Hat for support, if they'd >> charge me a sensible amount > > [...] > > Horse feathers. > > You can get a personal, developer subscription for $99: > > https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/developer

Re: Create a LiveCD with a static-IP config as default in NetworkManager?

2013-04-15 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 08:35:16AM -0400, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> I wonder if it's possible to modify a Fedora LiveCD to include a >> static-IP config in the default ethernet NIC >> instead of the default (which is to use DHCP), DNS etc?. >> >

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/15/2013 01:16 AM, g wrote: so, you run a web server , and i am agreeing that a web server gives a better accounting, but you say that it is not. then just what do you consider to give a good account? No, I don't run a web server. I'm saying that the Linux Counter gets most of its data f

Re: SELinux fails to apply local policy module

2013-04-15 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Daniel, On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 08:56:56AM -0700, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > Does your application work? If yes then no reason to allow this avc. It takes a while to start, but my application does work. Is it then possible to just ignore the alerts for this particular case. I would also pr

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Antonio Olivares
>> His data and apps must not be very important to him if he won't pony up >> $349 >> for a commercially supported OS. >> https://www.redhat.com/wapps/store/catalog.html >> >> It never ceases to amaze me that people will run their businesses - the >> thing >> that feeds their families and employee

Re: keeping USB disk awake (SOLVED--kind of)

2013-04-15 Thread Sherman Grunewagon
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Sherman Grunewagon wrote: > > On Wed Apr 10, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> Sherman Grunewagon wrote: > >>> On Tue Apr 9, 2013, at 06:02:08,  pomo wrote: > On 09.04.2013 07:38, Sherman Grunewagon wrote: > > > I have

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 04/14/2013 10:15 PM, David wrote: On 4/14/2013 10:25 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 04/13/2013 07:53 PM, David wrote: Meh. My mom (nearly 70) and my daughters (6 and 10) all use Linux. My support level with them is orders of magnitude lower than it was when they ran Windows. It's also a Hell o

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 04/15/2013 11:12 AM, Tethys wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: The annoying thing is, I'd *gladly* pay Red Hat for support, if they'd charge me a sensible amount [...] Horse feathers. You can get a personal, developer subscription for $99: https://www.redhat.

Re: F 18 disk management tool

2013-04-15 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 15, 2013 8:35 AM, "Paul Erickson" wrote: > > On switching to F 18, whenever I try to use the "disk management" tool under "system tools" I get this message: > > There are no filesystems which you are allowed to mount or unmount. > Contact your administrator. > > In previous versions of Fedo

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Bill Oliver
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Thomas Cameron wrote: If $799 per year for support of the infrastructure that you run your business on is too much, I'd say your business is pretty freaking shaky. I've personally started two small businesses, and I've been involved in several other startups. Even on

Re: F 18 disk management tool

2013-04-15 Thread Paul Erickson
On 04/15/2013 12:49 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: On Apr 15, 2013 8:35 AM, "Paul Erickson" > wrote: > > On switching to F 18, whenever I try to use the "disk management" tool under "system tools" I get this message: > > There are no filesystems which you are allowed to m

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 08:12:29PM +, Bill Oliver wrote: > On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Thomas Cameron wrote: [...snip...] > >My experience may be different from some, but I don't think that > >$799, or even several thousand dollars for multiple servers, is > >exorbitant at all. > > > >We're talking ab

Re: F 18 disk management tool

2013-04-15 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 15, 2013 1:31 PM, "Paul Erickson" wrote: > > On 04/15/2013 12:49 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: >> >> >> On Apr 15, 2013 8:35 AM, "Paul Erickson" wrote: >> > >> > On switching to F 18, whenever I try to use the "disk management" tool under "system tools" I get this message: >> > >> > There are

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2013 22:49, schrieb Paul W. Frields: >> I think we have very different experiences with community distros. >> I've run mission and business-critical tasks on community distros >> for years and never had a problem, starting with Mandrake back in >> the day, then Mandriva, then Fedora, with

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:55:17PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.04.2013 22:49, schrieb Paul W. Frields: > >> I think we have very different experiences with community distros. > >> I've run mission and business-critical tasks on community distros > >> for years and never had a problem, start

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Bill Oliver
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Paul W. Frields wrote: My house has never caught fire yet, but I still have more than the minimal amount of homeowner's insurance required by law. My house might catch fire, but I don't hire a fireman to come by every evening and spray water on the roof just in case.

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2013 23:17, schrieb Paul W. Frields: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:55:17PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 15.04.2013 22:49, schrieb Paul W. Frields: I think we have very different experiences with community distros. I've run mission and business-critical tasks on community di

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread David Beveridge
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > honestly, most support-contracts are quite useless if they > cover only default setups and let you alone in the rain > for a infrastructure which is customized for your needs > I work for a fairly large company that has loads of VMs using

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.04.2013 00:55, schrieb David Beveridge: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Reindl Harald > wrote: >> >> honestly, most support-contracts are quite useless if they >> cover only default setups and let you alone in the rain >> for a infrastructure which is customized for your needs >> > >

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Edward M
On 4/15/2013 8:49 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: not all you're getting, which is why Red Hat consistently talks about providing higher value in the subscription model than just bits. Rather, the value includes things like: * Certification on hardware * Ecosystem of applications certified on the pla

Re: SELinux fails to apply local policy module

2013-04-15 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/15/2013 09:59 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 08:56:56AM -0700, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> >> Does your application work? If yes then no reason to allow this avc. > > It takes a while to start, but my application

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
Wellto add my two centsI have been a Windows Admin since Windows 95right up until nowand I can say with no prejudice that the few users who run Linux in the office call maybe once every four to five months with issues.whereas the majority of the Windows users call CONSTANTLY

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2013-04-15 at 17:12 +0100, Tethys wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Thomas Cameron > wrote: > > >> The annoying thing is, I'd *gladly* pay Red Hat for support, if they'd > >> charge me a sensible amount > > > > [...] > > > > Horse feathers. > > > > You can get a personal, develope

Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-15 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2013-04-15 at 21:33 -0700, Craig White wrote: > 3. $799 a year for support is more than a small business can justify? > As a consultant, I wouldn't want a customer unwilling to pay $800 a > year for support - enough said. > > 4. It supports the ecosystem. There is a cost to developing and >

Re: keeping USB disk awake (SOLVED--kind of)

2013-04-15 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2013-04-15 at 10:51 -0700, Sherman Grunewagon wrote: > I guess I will have to ping the two docking stations every 4.9 minutes > via a cron job to keep them awake. > > What a kludge. Other suggestions? Include the drive into an automated back-up system that makes use of the drive that of