Re: any foss bitmap editor which can do this?

2013-01-18 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > Possibly I can suggest you ImageMagick, it has some cli support, and > tons of tools. > > Read more about it here: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php Thanks Zoltan, will play with it. Very much appreciated. :) FC -- users mailing

Re: any foss bitmap editor which can do this?

2013-01-18 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
One of my favourite toy - because it can be used in many way - including CLi, and lot of apps are using the imagemagick engine. Look for samples, you will find transformations, resizing, and lot more. Check my #dailypackage tag in Fedora group G+ channel, I have dropped already some other interest

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-18 Thread Jorge Martínez López
I had the same problem and what I did was to disable plymouth entirely when upgrading. I edited the linux line in the System upgrade menu, removing the plymouth theme option (I can't recall its exact name). Then it ran flawless. Greetings, -- Jorge Martínez López http://www.jorgeml.net -- users

Re: any foss bitmap editor which can do this?

2013-01-18 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > Check my #dailypackage tag in Fedora group G+ channel, Thanks for the heads up and invitation. *but* I currently spend 50% of my online time on mailing lists and GMail, and 50% with Twitter. I fear that if I get into G+ I´ll end up livi

Re: any foss bitmap editor which can do this?

2013-01-18 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Understand - if you need any app, and you don't find - drop me a mail. :) Cu, Zoltan 2013/1/18 Fernando Cassia : > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: >> Check my #dailypackage tag in Fedora group G+ channel, > > Thanks for the heads up and invitation. *but* > I currently

Re: Slightly OT

2013-01-18 Thread Roger
So why doesn't yum find the rpm either on the web or after changing to /Downloads where I have the .rpm is located and handle the dependencies as it has done with all other installs to date. Bit stuck on this and would appreciate help please. Thanks in advance Roger have you tried "yum

Re: any foss bitmap editor which can do this?

2013-01-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:58:31 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > Is there any FOSS bitmap editor with a command line, allowing me to > experiment with, for instance, the circle drawing function and specify > the circle´s position on screen, and size (radius)?. > > Suppose you need to take a given bit

Re: F18, Gnome: displays failing to span

2013-01-18 Thread Dave Mitchell
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:53:50PM +, Dave Mitchell wrote: > I have a new laptop that I've just installed F18 on. I've plugged an > external VGA monitor in, and used System Settings / Displays to > position the external screen above the laptop screen. This works as far as > the mouse is concer

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-18 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Phil Meyer writes: > Its a Plymouth bug, I think. Caused by hitting > ESC before Plymouth is ready for you to. :) It is confirmed. That is all it was for me too. I just hit too early. The second time around I just let it be and it upgraded all by itself. I suppose there is a wise saying in

Re:(FEEDBACK) Fedora 18 not mounting USB drives.

2013-01-18 Thread Johan Scheepers
*** On 17/01/2013 10:24, Jorge Martínez López wrote: Hello, 2013/1/16 Johan Scheepers > Good day, When I boot and login I get a udisks have a problem. Kindly please : how to fix this. First of all please let us know the exact text of t

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-18 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Reindl Harald writes: > and that is why in my opinion "rhgb quiet" is a dumb default > > you should never hit anything to see what is > going on with a proper free operating system I hate them too, but we probably aren't the intended audience. I assume that there is a human-factors study that i

Re: any foss bitmap editor which can do this?

2013-01-18 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Fernando Cassia writes: > Is there any FOSS bitmap editor with a command line, allowing me to > experiment with, for instance, the circle drawing function and specify > the circle´s position on screen, and size (radius)?. I've used xfig to draw bitmaps in the past. It isn't command-line, but it

Fedora 18 - Howto not install on LVM.

2013-01-18 Thread Johan Scheepers
Good day, Installed fedora 18 twice on different usb drives. First gave fedora a free hand on an empty partition. Got boot and LVM in that partition with my other partitions untouched. After some google..maybe a solution. Tried on another drive. Manual partition on the installer. Created the e

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-18 Thread Chris Bredesen
On 01/18/2013 04:06 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Joe Zeff writes: I must admit that your subject line gave me a major Stanley Kubrick moment. ;-) I had to get people to read the msg. Try turning up your speaker volume. Listen for a computer voice saying, "I'm sorry Wolfgang, I'm afra

Re: any foss bitmap editor which can do this?

2013-01-18 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > Well everyone uses gimp I think. It has a python scripted interface and > some others so you never really need to touch the UI side > > You could also use openscad and then save as a bitmap. It's really > intended for 3D work but it can do program

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:26:20 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > I'd say you need to install the mate-session-manager package: > > Shouldn´t mate-desktop be a meta-package that install everything else > needed for smooth operation (including mate-session-manager) ?? Possibly. I'm not familiar with

Re: Fedora 18 - Howto not install on LVM.

2013-01-18 Thread Joachim Backes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/2013 12:08 PM, Johan Scheepers wrote: > Good day, > > Installed fedora 18 twice on different usb drives. First gave > fedora a free hand on an empty partition. Got boot and LVM in that > partition with my other partitions untouched. > > Aft

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 23:28 +, Ian Malone wrote: > In F17 I don't get the session chooser unless there are alternative > desktops available[1]. I think it's the GDM login I've got, but could > be wrong. Michael Schwendt's comment could be the package that > registers Mate. I'll try that in a l

Re: Best places to go for assistance with cloud questions?

2013-01-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 08:43:26PM -0500, Alex wrote: > I have a few fc17 installs, and would like to get more involved with > the cloud services that are available. To answer the title question, the best place is probably the Cloud SIG mailing list. More about the Cloud SIG in general at https:/

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-18 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 02:57 -0800, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > I hate them too, but we probably aren't the intended audience. Which raises the question of what the hell is the thought process behind that? Are they creating a distro to suit the people actually using it, or for people who aren't

Re: fedora 17 no wireless

2013-01-18 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > First time to try to use wireless since installing F17. Connects, but > doesn't succeed at authorizing. Keeps trying to authorize for several > minutes, then gives up. > > /var/log/messages shows stuff like > > NetworkManager[483]: (wlan0): dev

Re: any foss bitmap editor which can do this?

2013-01-18 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:29:24 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > > Well everyone uses gimp I think. It has a python scripted interface and > > some others so you never really need to touch the UI side > > > > You could also use openscad and then save

fedup major fail

2013-01-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Burned my F18 image. Booted the DVD once, to run mediacheck. It's fine. Ran fedup --device /dev/sr0 --debuglog fedupdebug.log It ran for a while. Completed without errors. Rebooted, selected "System upgrade" option from grub. The Fedora logo started blinking. The disk activity light blinked ha

Re: A Look at Fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread David
On 1/18/2013 7:54 AM, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 23:28 +, Ian Malone wrote: >> In F17 I don't get the session chooser unless there are alternative >> desktops available[1]. I think it's the GDM login I've got, but could >> be wrong. Michael Schwendt's comment could be the package that >

Re: fedup major fail

2013-01-18 Thread JOYCE POLZIN
What happens if you use the iso option and point to the iso file on your HD presuming that you haven't deleted it?? - Original Message - Burned my F18 image. Booted the DVD once, to run mediacheck. It's fine. Ran fedup --device /dev/sr0 --debuglog fedupdebug.log It ran for a while. C

Re: Preventing resolv.conf from being recreated

2013-01-18 Thread Edik Landaveri
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 01:11:29AM -0500, Alex wrote: /etc/resolv.conf its a core networking file. How would your server comunicate with the rest of your local boxes or the net? How is your server's network configured? Since you removed NetworkManager it seems so. When you entered your network in

Re: Preventing resolv.conf from being recreated

2013-01-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.01.2013 16:16, schrieb Edik Landaveri: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 01:11:29AM -0500, Alex wrote: > > /etc/resolv.conf its a core networking file. How would your server > comunicate with the rest of your local boxes or the net? that was surely not the question can you imagine that there are

Re: Problem whit F18

2013-01-18 Thread Jon Ingason
2013-01-18 16:17, janeth lorena contreras paz skrev: The problem That I have is, I am use Fedora 17 and it works fine, download fedora 18 xfce 32 bit, from the website of fedora check with checksum, and is all right. restart with the live CD and it works fine, but when installing the installation

Re: F18, Gnome: displays failing to span

2013-01-18 Thread Dave Mitchell
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:39:24AM +, Dave Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:53:50PM +, Dave Mitchell wrote: > > I have a new laptop that I've just installed F18 on. I've plugged an > > external VGA monitor in, and used System Settings / Displays to > > position the external scr

Re: fedup major fail

2013-01-18 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 09:54:40AM -0500, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: > What happens if you use the iso option and point to the iso file on your > HD presuming that you haven't deleted it?? I had used that method when I upgraded my laptop on Tuesday. I ended up being dropped into emergency mode and had t

Re: [389-users] notes=U, unindex search? really

2013-01-18 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/18/2013 08:29 AM, Picture Book wrote: filter="(&(AllowAccess=Y)(uid=bill))" AllowAccess is unindexed attribute uid is indexed attribute access log search result: notes=U I imagine that directory server will do an indexed search by uid=bill, get the entry and then verify if AllowAccess=Y.

Install FC18 on laptop? Wifi woes

2013-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
I'm trying to update a laptop to FC18, but that does not seem to be an option, because the Broadcom WiFi is still not supported. It seems that the obvious solutions are not practical, since both the Live-CD and Install kernels use kernels for which rpmfusion has no driver software due to their a

Re: Problem whit F18

2013-01-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:17:28 -0600 janeth lorena contreras paz wrote: > > The problem That I have is, I am use Fedora 17 and it works fine,download > fedora 18 xfce 32 bit, from the website of fedora check withchecksum, and is > all right.restart with the live CD and it works fine, but when in

Re: F18 Splash screen is not shown

2013-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Antonio M wrote: When I boot my updated F18, the usual splash screen is not shown, I see only the bar on the lowest part of the screen and some white lines boot process is completed fine: and here you will see part of my grub2 configuration file, but I don't see anything strange (I am running

which repos for fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread FMcCormick
I noticed today that on Fedora 18 the Fedora-updates-testing repo is not enabled. Should it be ?? Thanks -- Frank McCormick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: ht

Re: which repos for fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:29:19 -0500 FMcCormick wrote: > > I noticed today that on Fedora 18 the Fedora-updates-testing repo is > not enabled. Should it be ?? No, unless you want to test newer versions. -- Regards, Frank "Ask not what Fedora can do for you, but what you can do for Fedora"

Re: which repos for fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:29:19AM -0500, FMcCormick wrote: > I noticed today that on Fedora 18 the Fedora-updates-testing repo is > not enabled. Should it be ?? It isn't by default, but it's very helpful if you enable it to help test the packages that go into it, so that bugs are caught before th

Re: Install FC18 on laptop? Wifi woes

2013-01-18 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Are you able to follow these instructions? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/428974.html I wondered if the problem is that the RPMfusion broadcom-wl is not up to date. Ranjan On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:01:33 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: > I'm trying to update a laptop to

Re: [389-users] Migrating fedora-ds 1.0.4 + 3.5.3 on Redhat 4 to a new server Redhat 6.4 with 389-ds + samba 3.5.10

2013-01-18 Thread German Waisvol
Hello, somebody can help me please? Best Regards, 2013/1/17 German Waisvol > Hi, i am working on a difficult project that consist on migrate an old > server Redhat 4 (fedora-ds 1.0.4 + samba 3.5.3) to a new Redhat 6 > server(389-ds + samba 3.5.10) > > I have followed the procedure to migrate fe

Fedora-18 installation from KDE Live USB

2013-01-18 Thread Timothy Murphy
I installed the Fedora-18 KDE Live CD on a USB stick, with sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr /tmp/Fedora-18*.iso /dev/sdb1 (I tried first with liveusb-creator but on re-booting with this USB stick I got the message "Missing operating system".) In any case I clicked on "Install on Hard

Re: [389-users] notes=U, unindex search? really

2013-01-18 Thread Picture Book
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:53:34 -0700 > From: rmegg...@redhat.com > To: 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org > CC: pictureboo...@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [389-users] notes=U, unindex search? really > > On 01/18/2013 08:29 AM, Picture Book wrote: > > filter=

Re: [389-users] notes=U, unindex search? really

2013-01-18 Thread Ludwig Krispenz
Hi Rich, for DSEE we always had the discussion what is an unindexed search, or when should notes=U be logged. We did log notes=U only if there was no finite idlist and a full db scan had to be done. The finite idlist could be that in an AND one of the filtercomponents was indexed, or in an un

Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Timothy Murphy
Do most people install Fedora from CDs? This seem to be the default in all the Fedora-18 documentation I have seen. I would have thought installation from USB stick was more popular now. I have a couple of computers with no CD reader; isn't that becoming the norm? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gay

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:14:49 + Timothy Murphy wrote: > Do most people install Fedora from CDs? Live discs, as distinct from CD > This seem to be the default in all the Fedora-18 documentation I > have seen. I would have thought installation from USB stick was > more popular now. I have a co

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.01.2013 18:14, schrieb Timothy Murphy: > Do most people install Fedora from CDs? > This seem to be the default in all the Fedora-18 documentation I have seen. > I would have thought installation from USB stick was more popular now. > I have a couple of computers with no CD reader; > isn't t

Input method in Qt and Java apps

2013-01-18 Thread Nuno Ferreira
Hello, I'm a Portuguese user and, in FC18 (after upgrade from FC17), I no longer have correct keyboard input in Qt apps (Nixnote and Skype). Gnome apps are ok. imsettings-list 1: IBus[ibus.conf] (recommended) 2: X compose table[xcompose.conf] 3: im-cedilla[im-cedilla.conf] $ imsettings

Re: fedup major fail

2013-01-18 Thread Mark Eggers
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:46:20 -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 09:54:40AM -0500, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: >> What happens if you use the iso option and point to the iso file on >> your HD presuming that you haven't deleted it?? > > I had used that method when I upgraded my lapto

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Ondrej Majerech
On 18 January 2013 18:20, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:14:49 + > Timothy Murphy wrote: > > > Do most people install Fedora from CDs? > > Live discs, as distinct from CD > Live discs aren't CDs? I always burned a live image onto a CD and then put that into a CD/DVD drive. Is

Re: Install FC18 on laptop? Wifi woes

2013-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ranjan Maitra wrote: Are you able to follow these instructions? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/428974.html I wondered if the problem is that the RPMfusion broadcom-wl is not up to date. I believe that the opposite is true, the kernel in the Live-CD is so old that

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:54:40 +0100 Ondrej Majerech wrote: > On 18 January 2013 18:20, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:14:49 + > > Timothy Murphy wrote: > > > > > Do most people install Fedora from CDs? > > > > Live discs, as distinct from CD > > > > Live discs aren't CDs?

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/18/2013 09:54 AM, Ondrej Majerech issued this missive: On 18 January 2013 18:20, Frank Murphy mailto:frankl...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:14:49 + Timothy Murphy mailto:gayle...@eircom.net>> wrote: > Do most people install Fedora from CDs? Live discs, a

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.01.2013 18:54, schrieb Ondrej Majerech: > I have to say, though, that I always wondered why Fedora Project doesn't > offer official USB images. It seems a > little backward to me -- especially since installing Fedora is the only thing > I've ever used a CD drive for in the > past six mont

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
David A. De Graaf wrote: Fedora 18. What a disaster! What were they thinking when they threw away a perfectly good installer and inflicted this new User Interface on us? Whoever decided to reinvent disk partitioning and embed it in this installer should be taken out to the woodshed and whupped.

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.01.2013 19:15, schrieb Rick Stevens: > The live media spins of Fedora are well over 700MB. > A CD can only hold about 700MB max on special media but you can burn them also on a DVD > (about 470MB for standard media), how do you come to 470MB? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R#Physical_

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ondrej Majerech wrote: On 18 January 2013 18:20, Frank Murphy mailto:frankl...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:14:49 + Timothy Murphy mailto:gayle...@eircom.net>> wrote: > Do most people install Fedora from CDs? Live discs, as distinct from CD Live discs aren't

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.01.2013 19:26, schrieb Bill Davidsen: > After reading this, and the first reply to it, I will cease trying to install > fc18 on my laptop. "New for the sake > of being different" is a way of life in Fedora, and I find that the need to > have the latest is the only objective > being given

Re: Install FC18 on laptop? Wifi woes

2013-01-18 Thread David G . Miller
Bill Davidsen tmr.com> writes: > > I'm trying to update a laptop to FC18, but that does not seem to be an > option, > because the Broadcom WiFi is still not supported. SNIP > > Suggestions? > I just did a "modprobe b43" and the b43 module loaded without requiring any additional files or pac

Re: Install FC18 on laptop? Wifi woes

2013-01-18 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:56:08 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: > Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Are you able to follow these instructions? > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/428974.html > > > > I wondered if the problem is that the RPMfusion broadcom-wl is not up > > to date.

Re: which repos for fedora 18

2013-01-18 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 11:32 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:29:19AM -0500, FMcCormick wrote: > > I noticed today that on Fedora 18 the Fedora-updates-testing repo is > > not enabled. Should it be ?? > > It isn't by default, but it's very helpful if you enable it to help

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/18/2013 05:03 AM, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 02:57 -0800, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >I hate them too, but we probably aren't the intended audience. Which raises the question of what the hell is the thought process behind that? Are they creating a distro to suit the people actual

Re: Install FC18 on laptop? Wifi woes

2013-01-18 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:41:20 + "David G. Miller" wrote: > Bill Davidsen tmr.com> writes: > > > > > I'm trying to update a laptop to FC18, but that does not seem to be an > > option, > > because the Broadcom WiFi is still not supported. > SNIP > > > > Suggestions? > > > I just did a "m

Re: fail2ban questions

2013-01-18 Thread Alex
Hi, >> [ssh-iptables] >> enabled = true >> filter = sshd >> action = iptables[name=SSH, port=ssh, protocol=tcp] >>sendmail-whois[name=SSH, dest=myu...@mydomain.com, >> sender=d...@mydomain.com] >> logpath = /var/log/secure >> maxretry = 5 >> >> There doesn't seem to be a man page

Re: Best places to go for assistance with cloud questions?

2013-01-18 Thread Alex
Hi, >> Are these clouds primarily for data storage, or can I use fedora as a >> front-end where my mail applications (such as webmail and pop/imap) >> would access data in an Amazon cloud? This still leaves a single point >> of failure in my fedora system, however. > > We don't actually have a clo

Re: Fedora 18 - Howto not install on LVM.(SOLVED)

2013-01-18 Thread Johan Scheepers
On 18/01/2013 14:28, Joachim Backes wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/2013 12:08 PM, Johan Scheepers wrote: Good day, Installed fedora 18 twice on different usb drives. First gave fedora a free hand on an empty partition. Got boot and LVM in that partition with my

desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread Tim
*** I'll remind people that my tangential offshoot of this thread is with Fedora 17. *** Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2013, David sent: > You will not be offered a choice of desktops unless you have more than > one installed. From the way you describe what you have done you do not > h

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-18 Thread g
On 01/15/2013 04:47 AM, staticsafe wrote: <> > OK, now I'm worried. if you do all your sorting on server and use imap, you *might not* have a problem. i can not comment what happens when running imap, as i use pop3 and have not tested the corruption problem with imap. as near as i can tell, cor

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-18 Thread g
On 01/16/2013 04:47 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: <> > So just to clarify for someone like me.who has a three sub-folders > under my GMail account running on TB. You're saying I should move those > folders to the "Local Folder" on my computer and away from under the > Inbox for GMail? I ha

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-18 Thread g
On 01/16/2013 05:01 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <> > I use Gmail (in IMAP mode) question to an IMAP user. how does folder moving tie in between server and client? which tree structure is reflected to the other? it has been over 30 years from when i last set up an IMAP account and i do not

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/18/2013 01:02 PM, Tim issued this missive: *** I'll remind people that my tangential offshoot of this thread is with Fedora 17. *** Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2013, David sent: You will not be offered a choice of desktops unless you have more than one installed. From the w

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.01.2013 22:05, schrieb g: > how does folder moving tie in between server and client? switch to another folder and back if IDLE push does not refresh enough for you > which tree structure is reflected to the other? uhm? the whole structure is on the server as also the mails there is no "

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 18.01.2013, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Do most people install Fedora from CDs? I'm using the DVD version.. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:32:07 +1030, Tim wrote: > *** I'll remind people that my tangential offshoot of this > thread is with Fedora 17. *** Which could be part of the problem. > yum grouplist > No sign of Mate, in either list. Nonetheless, I tried the following: The "comps" file in th

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Roger
On 01/19/2013 08:33 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 18.01.2013, Timothy Murphy wrote: Do most people install Fedora from CDs? I'm using the DVD version.. I have always fresh installed from DVD R -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-18 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 01:26:36PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > David A. De Graaf wrote: > >Fedora 18. > > > >What a disaster! What were they thinking when they threw away a > >perfectly good installer and inflicted this new User Interface on us? Despite the obstacles presented by the new instal

Re: F18 Splash screen is not shown

2013-01-18 Thread antonio
Bill Davidsen ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 18/01/2013 17:12: Antonio M wrote: When I boot my updated F18, the usual splash screen is not shown, I see only the bar on the lowest part of the screen and some white lines boot process is completed fine: and here you will see pa

F18: Personal file sharing

2013-01-18 Thread antonio
I updated my computers from F17 to F18: I had personal file sharing activated on both machines and I could exchange see shared folders, now in F18 I cannot see shared folders (not even listed in Nautilus/Network window). Any help?? -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F18(Spherical Cow)

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-18 Thread Roger
On 01/19/2013 09:13 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 01:26:36PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: David A. De Graaf wrote: Fedora 18. What a disaster! What were they thinking when they threw away a perfectly good installer and inflicted this new User Interface on us? It's simp

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.01.2013 23:40, schrieb Roger: > On 01/19/2013 09:13 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 01:26:36PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> David A. De Graaf wrote: Fedora 18. What a disaster! What were they thinking when they threw away a perfectly good inst

Re: fedup major fail

2013-01-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Mark Eggers writes: I didn't point to the raw device, but instead I pointed to the mounted media: --device /run/media/[user-name]/Fedora\ 18\ x86_64 as per documentation. The command switch is a bit misleading, since with device you might think to point to /dev/sr0 instead of the mount point.

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Timothy Murphy writes: Do most people install Fedora from CDs? This seem to be the default in all the Fedora-18 documentation I have seen. I would have thought installation from USB stick was more popular now. I have a couple of computers with no CD reader; isn't that becoming the norm? Maybe

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Reindl Harald writes: > It's simple, I had no problems, it just worked and I have a perfectly good Fedora 18 let me guess: primitive setup with one disk an dnow setup a LVM backed by a RAID10 on 4 disks with the new installer - what? you can't? Something tells me that bored "usability expe

Use existing Partition without formatting when installing F18 ?

2013-01-18 Thread Oncaphillis
Previous to Fedora 18 I used to share the /boot/ partition /dev/sda1 between two systems (e.g F17 and F16) Now It only seems to be possible to format partitions before you can add it to the installation. Any trick around this ? Cheers O. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

hang on reboot

2013-01-18 Thread Tom Horsley
When I just tried to reboot fedora 18, it printed about 3 lines on the console, then sat there forever. I typed Ctrl-Alt-Delete and it printed a new line about the alsa save soundcard service not working. I could type it in again and get the same message again. After about 5 minues of this, it f

Re: Install FC18 on laptop? Wifi woes

2013-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:56:08 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: Ranjan Maitra wrote: Are you able to follow these instructions? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/428974.html I wondered if the problem is that the RPMfusion broadcom-wl is not up to date

Re: Install FC18 on laptop? Wifi woes

2013-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
David G. Miller wrote: Bill Davidsen tmr.com> writes: I'm trying to update a laptop to FC18, but that does not seem to be an option, because the Broadcom WiFi is still not supported. SNIP Suggestions? I just did a "modprobe b43" and the b43 module loaded without requiring any additional

Re: fedup major fail

2013-01-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/18/2013 03:05 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Mark Eggers writes: I didn't point to the raw device, but instead I pointed to the mounted media: --device /run/media/[user-name]/Fedora\ 18\ x86_64 as per documentation. The command switch is a bit misleading, since with device you might think

Re: Use existing Partition without formatting when installing F18 ?

2013-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Oncaphillis wrote: Previous to Fedora 18 I used to share the /boot/ partition /dev/sda1 between two systems (e.g F17 and F16) Now It only seems to be possible to format partitions before you can add it to the installation. Any trick around this ? Haven't seen one yet, if there's a way to save s

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Roger wrote: On 01/19/2013 09:13 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 01:26:36PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: David A. De Graaf wrote: Fedora 18. What a disaster! What were they thinking when they threw away a perfectly good installer and inflicted this new User Interface on u

set primary monitor during install

2013-01-18 Thread Andras Simon
I'm trying to install F18 on a netbook with a small screen where most of the installer's screens don't fit. To get around this problem, I attached an external monitor - but now the installer thinks that's a second monitor, so I still can't access critical parts of some of the installation screens.

Re: Installer inadequacies

2013-01-18 Thread Ondrej Majerech
On 18 January 2013 23:40, Roger wrote: > On 01/19/2013 09:13 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 01:26:36PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> >>> David A. De Graaf wrote: >>> Fedora 18. What a disaster! What were they thinking when they threw away a perfect

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Ondrej Majerech wrote: > Is there a way to stuff a live disc into a USB slot on a computer wihout an > optical drive? I must have missed that option because I certainly would have > loved to do that. How to create and use a LiveUSB https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/H

Re: Do people still install from CDs ?

2013-01-18 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > How to create and use a LiveUSB > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB?rd=FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo Sorry, forgot to say that my personal favorite is this tool http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ -can be used on any Windows

Re: Install FC18 on laptop? Wifi woes

2013-01-18 Thread David G . Miller
Bill Davidsen tmr.com> writes: > > David G. Miller wrote: > > Bill Davidsen tmr.com> writes: > >> I'm trying to update a laptop to FC18, but that does not seem to be an > >> option, SNIP > > I just did a "modprobe b43" and the b43 module loaded without requiring any > > additional files or pac

Re: fedup major fail

2013-01-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 01/18/2013 03:05 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Mark Eggers writes: I didn't point to the raw device, but instead I pointed to the mounted media: --device /run/media/[user-name]/Fedora\ 18\ x86_64 as per documentation. The command switch is a bit misleading, since with devi

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread David
On 1/18/2013 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: > *** I'll remind people that my tangential offshoot of this thread is > with Fedora 17. *** > > > Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2013, David sent: >> You will not be offered a choice of desktops unless you have more >> than one installed. From the way you d

Re: desktop choice on Fedora 17 (was Re: A Look at Fedora 18)

2013-01-18 Thread David
On 1/18/2013 9:18 PM, David wrote: > On 1/18/2013 4:02 PM, Tim wrote: >> *** I'll remind people that my tangential offshoot of this thread is >> with Fedora 17. *** >> >> >> Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2013, David sent: >>> You will not be offered a choice of desktops unless you have more

Grub2 installation after upgrading to F18

2013-01-18 Thread Matthew Saltzman
I have two machines with atypical disk layouts that I am upgrading to F18. (So far, I've upgraded three using fedup network with no significant issues other than this question.) 1. I have a machine with two drives and software RAID 1. Do I need to do anything special as far as insta

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-18 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/18/2013 03:18 PM, g wrote: On 01/15/2013 04:47 AM, staticsafe wrote: <> OK, now I'm worried. if you do all your sorting on server and use imap, you *might not* have a problem. i can not comment what happens when running imap, as i use pop3 and have not tested the corruption problem with

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-18 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/18/2013 03:59 PM, g wrote: On 01/16/2013 04:47 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: <> So just to clarify for someone like me.who has a three sub-folders under my GMail account running on TB. You're saying I should move those folders to the "Local Folder" on my computer and away from unde

Re: Use existing Partition without formatting when installing F18 ?

2013-01-18 Thread Joachim Backes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/2013 12:41 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Oncaphillis wrote: >> Previous to Fedora 18 I used to share the /boot/ partition >> /dev/sda1 between two systems (e.g F17 and F16) Now It only seems >> to be possible to format partitions before you can a

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