Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tim wrote: >> So, maybe NetworkManager should change the way it works? I'm not sure. > > That's also difficult to answer. For quite some time, it was clear that > it was only aimed at the GUI users, as there was only a GUI interface > for it. Command line usage came later on. It is supposedly

USB V92 56k fax modems and Fedora

2012-11-16 Thread Gary Stainburn
Hi folks. I'm looking at using USB V92 56K fax modem with my Fedora servers. Has anyone had any experience with these? -- Gary Stainburn Group I.T. Manager Ringways Garages http://www.ringways.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-16 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:45:54 +0100 lee wrote: > There should be a clear choice when installing --- and/or by package > dependencies --- so users can pick what they prefer. There should also be a default choice, in case the user doesn't know what to choose. Currently, the default is NM. Experience

perl-Hash-Merge-0.12-7.fc16.noarch

2012-11-16 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I used to use Hash::Merge, but now I get the following error message: /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib64/perl5/auto/Clone/Clone.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Gthr_key_ptr This is the code giving the error: #!/usr/bin/perl -w use Hash::Merge qw( merge ); my %a = (

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-16 Thread jarmo
Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:48:58 +0100 Marko Vojinovic kirjoitti: > > A novice user would just run the default setup, with NM controlling > all interfaces, use the GUI to configure NM, and everything would > work as expected, without any confusion. An experienced user should > know what he wants to set

Re: perl-Hash-Merge-0.12-7.fc16.noarch

2012-11-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/16/2012 01:27 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, I used to use Hash::Merge, but now I get the following error message: /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib64/perl5/auto/Clone/Clone.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Gthr_key_ptr ... Any idea? Note the path of the error message /usr/

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/16/2012 07:01 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Tim wrote: > >>> So, maybe NetworkManager should change the way it works? I'm not sure. >> That's also difficult to answer. For quite some time, it was clear that >> it was only aimed at the GUI users, as there was only a GUI interface >> for it. Co

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-16 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 11:01 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > In my view, the action of NM in over-writing /etc/resolv.conf > is completely illogical. > There is no conceivable situation in which this might help. In just about all networks that you don't personally manage, a DHCP server is used to co

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread Tim
Tim: >> I'd say, if you're installing BIND, then run a DHCP server on that >> same computer, and disable any other DHCP servers on your LAN (such >> as in your modem/router). Configure your DHCP server to tell all >> clients on your network the addresses for configuring your network >> (gateway, D

Re: USB V92 56k fax modems and Fedora

2012-11-16 Thread Billy Davis
On 11/16/2012 6:40 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: Hi folks. I'm looking at using USB V92 56K fax modem with my Fedora servers. Has anyone had any experience with these? We use TrendNet TFM-561U USB modem with Centos 6. Retails for about $25 to $30. Very easy to set up and use. Should work on Fed

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-16 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 09:01 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 15/11/12 08:39, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 21:19 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > >> On 11/14/2012 03:11 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > >>>I am open to advice ... > >> You need

Re: Fedora 17: Auto configuring wireless networks in Network Manager on first boot

2012-11-16 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 04:40:03PM +0100, lee wrote: > Suvayu Ali writes: > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 02:04:09PM +0100, lee wrote: > >> > >> > Here is my ifcfg-networkname file looks like > >> > >> Shouldn't the file be named for the interface, like ifcfg-em1? > >> > > > > No, it is the netw

Re: [OT] Microsoft Bashing

2012-11-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
Arthur Dent wrote: Hello all, I was sitting in a dentist's waiting room and I came across this article from the August 2012 (really!) edition of Vanity Fair. http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2012/08/microsoft-lost-mojo-steve-ballmer I know we all love to hate Microsoft, but after reading thi

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-16 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 16/11/12 11:52, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Ah, the options line. Might be worth filing an RFE on Bugzilla or joining the NetworkManager list and proposing adding the capability to include lines other than nameserver and search. That does seem like it would be useful. > > I find it a lot l

Re: [OT] Microsoft Bashing

2012-11-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/16/2012 10:20 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: At least Android apps usually have a free (with ads) and paid (no ad) version to choose. I have a Nook Tablet. None of the apps that I've installed have ads, and AFAIK, B&N doesn't allow that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 15.11.2012 18:38, schrieb lee: >> Tim writes: >> >>> Allegedly, on or about 12 November 2012, lee sent: If you're using a chaching name server, you might not want the "search" option. >>> >>> You probably do. It, or a similar option, will be used so that "p

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.11.2012 21:45, schrieb lee: > 1.) omit the search option > 2.) put a non-existent domain into the search option > 3.) put an existing domain into the search option > > > No. 2.) isn't useful correct > no. 3.) leads to unexpected results and > confusion[1] and therefore isn't very useful

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 16.11.2012 21:45, schrieb lee: >> 1.) omit the search option >> 2.) put a non-existent domain into the search option >> 3.) put an existing domain into the search option >> >> >> No. 2.) isn't useful > > correct > >> no. 3.) leads to unexpected results and >> confusio

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-16 Thread lee
Marko Vojinovic writes: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:45:54 +0100 lee wrote: >> There should be a clear choice when installing --- and/or by package >> dependencies --- so users can pick what they prefer. > > There should also be a default choice, in case the user doesn't know > what to choose. Curre

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread lee
Tim writes: > Tim: >>> I'd say, if you're installing BIND, then run a DHCP server on that >>> same computer, and disable any other DHCP servers on your LAN (such >>> as in your modem/router). Configure your DHCP server to tell all >>> clients on your network the addresses for configuring your ne

Re: Print Job Not getting to Printer

2012-11-16 Thread Jim
On 09/21/2012 07:56 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 09/21/2012 04:21 PM, Jim issued this missive: On 09/21/2012 07:07 PM, Jim wrote: Fedora 17Samsung CLX3175FX, CLX3170 Series driver. The driver for this printer does work in Fedora 17 on about ten other boxes with Fedora 17. But not on this H

Re: DNS problems this morning - CORRECTION

2012-11-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.11.2012 00:10, schrieb lee: >> You never get guest computers, or get asked to take in someone else's >> computer and fix it, or install Linux on it for them? You never add new >> devices? Some of which really expect DHCP (network printers, gaming >> consoles, media devices). Or had to c

Re: NetworkManager-resolv.conf -

2012-11-16 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:39:42 +0100 lee wrote: > Marko Vojinovic writes: > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:45:54 +0100 lee wrote: > >> There should be a clear choice when installing --- and/or by > >> package dependencies --- so users can pick what they prefer. > > > > There should also be a default cho

FC 17 and Intel HD4000 no login screen only background

2012-11-16 Thread Kim Barthel
Hello, i set up a new system with an in Intel i7 3770t. It runs Ubuntu 12.10 without any problem, but when I try to install FC17 I only get the background of the loginscreen. I cannot even use the live cd, because of the same problem. I installed the system by connecting the ssd to my old pc.