is tehre any better configuraable and better
maintained replacement for logwatch?
the idea is nice, but there is somehting wrong if
you have to confugrue your servers in a special
way to get a useable output :-(
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825534
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_b
Hello,
I've just upgraded the kernel with last yum updates and now I have
problems in properly running Xen/libvirt.
The first strange thing it happened is a file system corruption of one
of my VMs.
The second strange thing is that now I am unable to successfully
create a new VM.
If I run:
sudo v
On 16/06/12 04:11, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 15.06.2012, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Thank you Heinz, I am looking at the Tomato page now. Hopefully I
can install it on one of the two Cisco E3000s that presently have
DD-WRT on them.
If it runs on your Cisco router, I'm qui
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:45 PM, sguazt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've just upgraded the kernel with last yum updates and now I have
> problems in properly running Xen/libvirt.
>
> The first strange thing it happened is a file system corruption of one
> of my VMs.
> The second strange thing is that now
On 06/19/2012 09:44:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/20/2012 11:43 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> > Hmmm ... would that that was the problem. AFAIK Anaconda takes
> input
>
> > only in MB. (By whatever definition, the darn thing still crashes.)
>
> FWIW, I just installed a test system in a VM. I h
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Arthur Dent
wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 12:47 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 06/18/2012 12:32 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
>> > Can anyone guide me through troubleshooting and hopfully fixing this
>> > without hosing my system?
>>
>> Two questions: first, can you boot i
Geoffrey Leach wrote:
>On 06/19/2012 09:44:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 06/20/2012 11:43 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
>> > Hmmm ... would that that was the problem. AFAIK Anaconda takes
>> input
>>
>> > only in MB. (By whatever definition, the darn thing still crashes.)
>>
>> FWIW, I just insta
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 21:53 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Arthur Dent
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 12:47 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> >> On 06/18/2012 12:32 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
> >> > Can anyone guide me through troubleshooting and hopfully fixing this
> >> > with
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 11:11 -0400, Natalie Gross wrote:
>> Was happy with initial install of F17, 64 bit, Gnome 3.4. Worked ok
>> outta the box.
>> However, after adding some software and updating to 3.4 kernel, I have
>> no [wired 1gb] network
Since I am responsible for initiating the attacks on Fedora for using
Gnome 3, I feel I should clarify with some kind of apology. I did not
say nor do I mean that F17 is a defective version of Linux. Just that it
has a defective Default Desktop Environment. F17 is fine version of
Linux. And once y
Okay, I'm still no closer to fixing my display problem. I can't imagine
how a graphical installation could work without a hitch and yet the
graphical display (indeed, even the CLI) be so FUBAR.
My screen is shifted to the right about 2/3 the across the display.
Even in rl 3. I thought it was
Tried preupgrade, but it can't find my old system, and kicks the
upgrade process to the curb.
Then I tried the netinstall CD and it can't find my old system, either.
Looking around, I see a bit of discussion of problems with the install
process recognizing LVM partitions. Rescue mode boot of the
On 6/20/2012 9:53 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> Since I am responsible for initiating the attacks on Fedora for using
> Gnome 3, I feel I should clarify with some kind of apology. I did not
> say nor do I mean that F17 is a defective version of Linux. Just that it
> has a defective Default Desktop Env
Well I had tried to just upgrade my system using "preupgrade" and here's
the error message I'm getting, don't know if it's related to the same
problem you're having.
bash-4.2# preupgrade
No protocol specified
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-gtk.py", l
Thanks "Ben"! In all actuality this laptop was given to me by someone
who thought it was junk!...and when they gave it to me it WAS. There was
food in every crack & crevice, the thing wouldn't power on, the screen
was marred, smudged, and it rattled when you shook it. It was a labor of
love for
On 06/20/2012 03:53 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Since I am responsible for initiating the attacks on Fedora for using
Gnome 3, I feel I should clarify with some kind of apology. I did not
say nor do I mean that F17 is a defective version of Linux. Just that it
has a defective Default Desktop Environ
On 20/06/12 15:09, David wrote:
Linux is all about choice.
No, Linus was\is very pragmatic.
Hence kernel is still at gplv2
GNU is all about choice.
But in the world we live in,
more can be less.
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I argree with you on that, and I apologize, I didn't mean to seem like I
was insulting anyone, I just have this bad habit of voicing my thoughts
in a" very-much-like-Spock" kinda way! Hope no one's offended! As for
building my OWN desktop from source?I'm too timid and afraid to even
attempt
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Mark Haney wrote:
> Okay, I'm still no closer to fixing my display problem. I can't imagine how
> a graphical installation could work without a hitch and yet the graphical
> display (indeed, even the CLI) be so FUBAR.
>
> My screen is shifted to the right about 2/3
On 06/20/2012 10:20 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> Well I had tried to just upgrade my system using "preupgrade" and here's the
> error
> message I'm getting, don't know if it's related to the same problem you're
> having.
>
> bash-4.2# preupgrade
> No protocol specified
> Traceback (most rec
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On 06/20/2012 03:09 PM, David wrote:
> On 6/20/2012 9:53 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> Since I am responsible for initiating the attacks on Fedora for
>> using Gnome 3, I feel I should clarify with some kind of apology.
>> I did not say nor do I mean tha
On 06/20/2012 06:06:38 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Geoffrey Leach wrote:
>
> >On 06/19/2012 09:44:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> >> On 06/20/2012 11:43 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> >> > Hmmm ... would that that was the problem. AFAIK Anaconda takes
> >> input
> >>
> >> > only in MB. (By whatever definit
On 06/20/2012 07:28 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Then you should also apologize a second time for making unnecessary
disparaging remarks about Gnome-3.4.
Necessity and accuracy are largely orthogonal, and the fact that his
disparagement was unnecessary didn't render it ina
See? and THIS is what I meant before..about the Fedora Users being a
cut above the rest! I will say this much to Aaron and everyone else in
this group, from developers to users, to admins, to engineers, to coders
etc,.you are without a doubtthe classiest, most intelligent,
witty, kn
What about a SystemRescue CD?I've been told they have tools that can
help out in situations where you can't seen to get into your PC?and
is that all I would have to backup if I wanted to go from Fedora 15 to
Fedora 17?using a fresh install"home" and "etc"..is that where all
my skins
Wow!it worked! Thanks you SO much Ed!I'm going to update right
now.(after backing up everything else FIRST!) I'm assuming that just
backing up "home" and "etc" would be enough to ensure all my settings
get transferred properly?.well I'm off!!
EGO II
On 06/20/2012 10:36 AM,
On 20 June 2012 14:53, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> I did not say nor do I mean that F17 is a defective version of Linux. Just
> that it
> has a defective Default Desktop Environment.
>
It takes all sorts I suppose.
I just switched back to Fedora after an absence of a few years,
specifically because
On 20.06.2012 16:13, Joel Rees wrote:
> Tried preupgrade, but it can't find my old system, and kicks the
> upgrade process to the curb.
>
> Then I tried the netinstall CD and it can't find my old system, either.
>
> Looking around, I see a bit of discussion of problems with the install
> process re
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 07:58 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> > Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> > >No. What I'm dealing with is a naked, never-before-seeing-fedora
> > disk.
> > >(there are a couple of ntfs partitions put there by the
> > manufacturer.
Most manufacturer-delivered disks that I have seen
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 09:41 -0400, Natalie Gross wrote:
> Jun 20 09:09:06 Phenom9600 network[1793]: Bringing up loopback interface:
> [...]
> Jun 20 09:09:06 Phenom9600 network[1793]: Bringing up interface em1:
> Jun 20 09:09:06 Phenom9600 dhclient[1913]: DHCPREQUEST on em1 to
> 255.255.255...)
> I tend to agree with ajax's opinion on the
> "Linux is all about choice" meme:
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html
What ajax seems to be saying is that it is not realistic to include
every possible choice in a given distribution. I agree. There are
d
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On 06/20/2012 05:43 PM, Greg Woods wrote:
> What ajax seems to be saying is that it is not realistic to
> include every possible choice in a given distribution. I agree.
> There are desktop environments available for Linux that are not
> shipped with F
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 09:41 -0400, Natalie Gross wrote:
>
>> Jun 20 09:09:06 Phenom9600 network[1793]: Bringing up loopback interface:
>> [...]
>> Jun 20 09:09:06 Phenom9600 network[1793]: Bringing up interface em1:
>> Jun 20 09:09:06 Phenom9
interesting point of view on the devel side...
> has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the
> following reason for rejecting your request:
> "You are not adding anything to the discussion."
Original-Nachricht
Betreff: Fwd: Request to mailing list devel
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Daniel wrote:
> On 06/20/2012 07:28 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
>
>> Then you should also apologize a second time for making unnecessary
>> disparaging remarks about Gnome-3.4.
>
>
> Necessity and accuracy are largely orthogonal, and the fact t
On Thursday, June 07, 2012 08:33:37 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 13:11 +0300, Alan Holt wrote:
> > My boss doesn't want it =( Don't know what to say.. He is a boss. So
> > that's
> > why I am looking for something else.
>
> [Please don't top-post. Read the list guidelines]
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:48:37 -0400, Jayson Rowe wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > Yum upgrade reports that redhat-lsb needs to be updated, but can't
> > because of a an error, to wit:
> >> Protected multilib versions: redhat-lsb-4.1-4.fc17.x86_64 !=
> >> redhat
On 06/20/2012 11:31 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> Wow!it worked! Thanks you SO much Ed!I'm going to update right
> now.(after backing up everything else FIRST!) I'm assuming that just
> backing up
> "home" and "etc" would be enough to ensure all my settings get transferred
> prope
This is an f6/64 computer with Thunderbird 12.0.1 which I believe is
up to date. I don't get e-mail messages with photos in them
everyday, sometimes not for weeks, but recently when I do they not
only fail but all I see is a listing in the messages with perhaps a
meg for the size a
This is an f-16/64 computer with Thunderbird 12.0.1 which I believe is
up to date. I don't get e-mail messages with photos in them
everyday, sometimes not for weeks, but recently when I do they not
only fail but all I see is a listing in the messages with perhaps a
meg for the size
On 06/20/2012 09:30:06 AM, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 07:58 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
>
> > > Geoffrey Leach wrote:
>
> > > >No. What I'm dealing with is a naked, never-before-seeing-fedora
> > > disk.
> > > >(there are a couple of ntfs partitions put there by the
> > > manuf
On 06/20/2012 03:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/20/2012 11:31 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
Wow!it worked! Thanks you SO much Ed!I'm going to update right
now.(after backing up everything else FIRST!) I'm assuming that just
backing up
"home" and "etc" would be enough to ensure a
On 06/21/2012 04:56 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>He says he sent that from his phone but he tried from his computer
>earlier and just over the last few days I've had several episodes
>like that from several correspondents, all running some version of
>Windows.
>
>
6K so I've FINALLY gotten through the pre-upgrade process, (Thanks to al
who gave me input, advice, and instruction!...it was invaluable!) So I
have finally gone from Fedora 15 to 16.(not wanting to go to 17
until a few more bugs have been worked out!) But I'm LOVIN' 16! My only
concern is,
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 20:26 -0400, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
> 6K so I've FINALLY gotten through the pre-upgrade process, (Thanks to al
> who gave me input, advice, and instruction!...it was invaluable!) So I
> have finally gone from Fedora 15 to 16.(not wanting to go to 17
> until a few
On 06/20/2012 05:26 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
I got when I was in Terminal checking things there and it says I have
"mail" but it's in a folder?.I've abbreviated the entire message,
but I'm wondering if there's something wrong with the upgrade?
That's probably internal mail, from som
On 06/20/2012 08:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 06/20/2012 05:26 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
I got when I was in Terminal checking things there and it says I have
"mail" but it's in a folder?.I've abbreviated the entire message,
but I'm wondering if there's something wrong with the upgrade?
Hi!
I did a base (default) install from i686 DVD onto my netbook. it's
working fine, but...
it doesn't have any tools to configure any printers. so using "add/remove
software" I searched for "printing" and it came up with an item "Printing
Support"
and installed it.
but I still don't have any
On 20/06/12 20:03, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/21/2012 04:56 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
He says he sent that from his phone but he tried from his computer
earlier and just over the last few days I've had several episodes
like that from several correspondents, all runnin
On 06/21/2012 08:44 AM, fred smith wrote:
> how is one supposed to set up a printer on F17?
Using GNOME?
You are supposed to follow the following route
1. Click on your user name in the upper right.
2. Click on "System Settings"
3. Find and click on the "Printers" icon
4. Click on "Unloc
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 20:44 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I did a base (default) install from i686 DVD onto my netbook. it's
> working fine, but...
>
> it doesn't have any tools to configure any printers. so using "add/remove
> software" I searched for "printing" and it came up with an ite
On 06/21/2012 08:55 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> On 20/06/12 20:03, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 06/21/2012 04:56 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>>> He says he sent that from his phone but he tried from his computer
>>> earlier and just over the last few days I've
On 06/20/2012 05:55 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Not since this problem became manifest, only Windows, I can get
someone to send an image from a Mac as a test. Probably later
tonight or tomorrow.
Here's something sent from F16 and Thunderbird. Let me know if there
On 06/20/2012 06:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
Would it be acceptable for someone from this list to send you an image file?
I just did, keeping it small and tasteful.
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On 06/21/2012 09:14 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Here's something sent from F16 and Thunderbird. Let me know if there are any
> problems with it.
Well There are 2 problems...
1. You've ignored the list guidelines about attachments.
2 You've ignored the list guidelines about html.
There was a
On 06/20/2012 06:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
1. You've ignored the list guidelines about attachments.
2 You've ignored the list guidelines about html.
I thought I'd sent it to Ed only, not to the list. If not, it was an
accident.
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On 06/20/2012 09:14 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 06/20/2012 05:55 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Not since this problem became manifest, only Windows, I can get
someone to send an image from a Mac as a test. Probably later
tonight or tomorrow.
Here's something sent from F1
On 06/21/2012 09:21 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I thought I'd sent it to Ed only, not to the list. If not, it was an
> accident.
If you thought you sent it to "Ed" only then you had 2 accidents. You should
have
sent it to "Bob" only since he is the one with the problem. :-)
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On 20/06/12 21:00, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/21/2012 08:55 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 20/06/12 20:03, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/21/2012 04:56 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
He says he sent that from his phone but he tried from his computer
earlier and j
On 06/20/2012 09:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/21/2012 09:21 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I thought I'd sent it to Ed only, not to the list. If not, it was an accident.
If you thought you sent it to "Ed" only then you had 2 accidents. You should
have
sent it to "Bob" only since he is the one with th
On 06/20/2012 06:23 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
Just to confirm, I can see the gif of Betty Boop. I also use Thunderbird
and "pop" my GMail, (along with AOL, Yahoo, and Hotmail which is
IMAP-ped) and I have no problems getting images or attachments with
images in them.could it be somethi
On 06/21/2012 09:26 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> On 20/06/12 21:00, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 06/21/2012 08:55 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>>> On 20/06/12 20:03, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/21/2012 04:56 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> He sa
On 06/20/2012 09:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 06/20/2012 06:23 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
Just to confirm, I can see the gif of Betty Boop. I also use Thunderbird
and "pop" my GMail, (along with AOL, Yahoo, and Hotmail which is
IMAP-ped) and I have no problems getting images or attachments wi
On 06/20/2012 06:35 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
I actually had a crush on Betty Boop when I was in the 2nd grade!
If so, you might be interested to know that the woman who did her voice
also did Olive Oyle, and that Olive's voice was based on Zasu Pitts.
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On 06/20/2012 09:39 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 06/20/2012 06:35 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
I actually had a crush on Betty Boop when I was in the 2nd grade!
If so, you might be interested to know that the woman who did her
voice also did Olive Oyle, and that Olive's voice was based on Zasu
On 20/06/12 21:32, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/21/2012 09:26 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 20/06/12 21:00, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/21/2012 08:55 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 20/06/12 20:03, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/21/2012 04:56 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia
On 06/21/2012 10:03 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> Ok, I have the same problem with the image file received in
>Thunderbird but if I go to the gmail web mail page I can view the
>image file, a garden scene.
>
>I had to jump through hoops to get to my gmail account, app
On 06/20/2012 07:03 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Ok, I have the same problem with the image file received in
Thunderbird but if I go to the gmail web mail page I can view the
image file, a garden scene.
Check your settings in Thunderbird; if that doesn't help, go to
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 08:56:42AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 08:44 AM, fred smith wrote:
> > how is one supposed to set up a printer on F17?
>
> Using GNOME?
>
> You are supposed to follow the following route
>
> 1. Click on your user name in the upper right.
> 2. Click on "
On 06/21/2012 10:19 AM, fred smith wrote:
> Ed:
>
> thanks for the reply!
>
> hmmm...
>
> I was running Mate, but couldn't find that item anywhere in mate. I had
> also looked in gnome and missed it.
>
> so, ok, now I've found it. I unlock, start to add printer and get
> a dialog that says:
>
> "Fi
On 06/19/2012 11:53 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
Sorry for the hijack:
Ed Greshko wrote:
I meant to say "How did you do that?". AFAIK, there is no
"Everything" install.
Have you never tried yum -y install everything ? :D
I believe Ed was referring to installation from DVD.
On DVD instal
On 20/06/12 22:17, Ed Greshko wrote:
FWIW, I just set up a POP gmail accountusing defaultson my F16 system
running
the same version of TB as you. I sent that account the same image file I sent
you
offline. It arrived back at my TB just fine.
Do you have any extensions to TB or filte
On 06/21/2012 10:46 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>Yes I have 6 or 7 add ons but they have not caused problems before.
>My daughter just told me that she was seeing a similar problem on
>her Mac, I believe she is using Thunderbird too. That just adds to
>the confusion
On 20/06/12 21:14, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 06/20/2012 05:55 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Not since this problem became manifest, only Windows, I can get
someone to send an image from a Mac as a test. Probably later
tonight or tomorrow.
Here's something sent from F16 and
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:29:05AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 10:19 AM, fred smith wrote:
> > Ed:
> >
> > thanks for the reply!
> >
> > hmmm...
> >
> > I was running Mate, but couldn't find that item anywhere in mate. I had
> > also looked in gnome and missed it.
> >
> > so, ok, now I
On 06/21/2012 11:08 AM, fred smith wrote:
> yeah. done. also installed some foomatic things and then when I chose
> add printer it thought for a couple of minutes and found the printer
> out on the LAN. it assigned the correct (or at least "A" correct)
> driver to it and voila.
>
> one odd thing, t
On 06/20/2012 10:04 AM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
As for building my OWN desktop from source?I'm too timid
and afraid to even attempt it! Although it intrigues me, I just don't
think I have the "chops" for something so intricate and complex!
Build from source (which is very different fr
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 10:43 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> I don't think the problem is necessarily about saying that "Linux is
> about choice", but about expectations that this means every possible
> choice should be available in your favorite distro.
Obviously not, but the better choices should be u
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