On 05/01/2012 09:40 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
Spherical Cow is really an idiom, and arguably not a normal adjective-noun
> pair.
Justify it all you want, it still sounds like "Copying Ubuntu" to me.
Dudes, it's just a name.
Please, focus on technical.
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On 05/01/2012 05:59 PM, stan wrote:
The main question, though; is Fedora vulnerable to this sort of
attack? It sounds like it is a combination of hardware and software
usage patterns that create the vulnerability, so do things like
randomized heap make this impossible?
To be completely save
> On 05/01/2012 05:59 PM, stan wrote:
>> The main question, though; is Fedora vulnerable to this sort of
>> attack? It sounds like it is a combination of hardware and software
>> usage patterns that create the vulnerability, so do things like
>> randomized heap make this impossible?
>
>To be c
On 05/02/2012 04:25 PM, Edward M wrote:
> To be completely save one has to completely cover their computer, internet
> cable,
> modem,router, the electrical wires which the
> computer is connected too, in tin foil.l so there is no electromagnetic
> leak of
> any sort and install OpenBSD.
I
On 05/02/2012 06:34 PM, Arthur Dent wrote:
On 05/01/2012 05:59 PM, stan wrote:
The main question, though; is Fedora vulnerable to this sort of
attack? It sounds like it is a combination of hardware and software
usage patterns that create the vulnerability, so do things like
randomized heap make
On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:20:09 +0300
Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 05/01/2012 09:40 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> >> Spherical Cow is really an idiom, and arguably not a normal adjective-noun
> >> > pair.
> > Justify it all you want, it still sounds like "Copying Ubuntu" to me.
>
> Dudes, it's ju
On 02/05/12 11:59, Alan Cox wrote:
And how pray are you going to tip a spherical cow ?
Ruins all the fun 8)
forceps, big ones.
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On 05/01/2012 06:20 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
>> Spherical Cow
>
> Can we add a rule for F19 that the name shall not be an adjective-noun
> form?
Such as "Beefy Miracle", perhaps?
IMO, such a rule would be deeply undemocratic. If the masses vote for
an adjective-noun form, they shall have
On Wed, 02 May 2012 17:19:31 +0100
Andrew Haley wrote:
> If the masses vote for
> an adjective-noun form, they shall have their way.
What masses? I heard about a vote to vote on elimination
of code names and spent three days trying to figure out
how to sign up to vote against all code names, and
Fedora change release every 6 months, as far as i can see this is not
enough to select the new name, you should change release more slowly...
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On 05/02/2012 03:59 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
And how pray are you going to tip a spherical cow ?
Ruins all the fun 8)
That's only a problem if it's also of uniform density.
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>>> Spherical Cow is really an idiom, and arguably not a normal adjective-noun
>>> pair.
>> Justify it all you want, it still sounds like "Copying Ubuntu" to me.
>
> Dudes, it's just a name.
> Please, focus on technical.
I'm late to this (all-important) thread, but I haven't seen anybody mention
t
On 05/02/2012 12:24 PM, Michael Hannon wrote:
I'm late to this (all-important) thread, but I haven't seen anybody mention
the origin of the term "spherical cow". It's a physics joke, or, maybe
better, a joke about physicists.
Yes. And many of us consider it to be trivializing Fedora and makin
I have a F16 system (which had been upgraded from F15) that is running
RAID-1 for all volumes. I have notice that GRUB2 is only on /dev/sda but
not on /dev/sdb
[root@wisdom boot]# file - < /dev/sda
/dev/stdin: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xfd, active, starthead 32,
startsector 2048, 785137 s
On 05/02/2012 01:20 PM, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
[root@wisdom boot]# file -< /dev/sdb
/dev/stdin: x86 boot sector; GRand Unified Bootloader, stage1 version 0x3,
boot drive 0x80, 1st sector stage2 0x842a9; partition 1: ID=0xfd, active,
starthead 32, startsector 2048, 785137 sectors; partition 2: ID=0x
Am 02.05.2012 22:20, schrieb Jeffrey Ross:
> I have a F16 system (which had been upgraded from F15) that is running
> RAID-1 for all volumes. I have notice that GRUB2 is only on /dev/sda but
> not on /dev/sdb
where do you read this?
> [root@wisdom boot]# file - < /dev/sda
> /dev/stdin: x86 boo
>> My concern is if I were to loose /dev/sda I want to be able to boot via
>> /dev/sdb.
>
> yes, because /dev/sda does NOt have GRUB, /dev/sdb has
>
>> Or am I reading the output from file wrong and its actually /dev/sda
>> that
>> doesn't have grub2 installed on it?
>
> you see "GRand Unified Boo
The following gnome3 crash occurs when attempting to log in to my
personal account. Gnome3 presents the log-in screen with my user name
selected. When I enter my password and press enter, the crash occurs.
On screen I see a frowning monitor and
Oh no! Something has gone wrong.
A problem ha
Am 02.05.2012 22:46, schrieb Jeffrey Ross:
>
>>> My concern is if I were to loose /dev/sda I want to be able to boot via
>>> /dev/sdb.
>>
>> yes, because /dev/sda does NOt have GRUB, /dev/sdb has
>>
>>> Or am I reading the output from file wrong and its actually /dev/sda
>>> that
>>> doesn't hav
On 05/02/2012 01:46 PM, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
ok, misinformation from this post?
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-February/414336.html
Now the question is who is right? I'm starting to believe the post I
quoted above is incorrect.
It's possible that it was correct when writte
> Non-physicists tend to view this approach as a simplistic retreat from
> reality. Hence, the joke: A physics professor says to the class, "consider a
> spherical cow of mass M".
To which the smartarse student asks "do we know if the expansion of the
universe is linear in all directions, and wil
On 05/02/2012 02:26 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
Non-physicists tend to view this approach as a simplistic retreat from
reality. Hence, the joke: A physics professor says to the class, "consider a
spherical cow of mass M".
To which the smartarse student asks "do we know if the expansion of the
univers
Once upon a time, Alan Cox said:
> You can have fun with physicists 8)
As a mathematician, I look at "spherical" and want to ask if Fedora
accepts the Axiom of Choice - if so, we can have two identical spherical
cows, but who really wants to decompose a cow to get there. Of course,
we'd have to
On 03/05/12 03:26, Maurizio Marini wrote:
Fedora change release every 6 months, as far as i can see this is not
enough to select the new name, you should change release more slowly...
What about getting entirely radical and call it *** Fedora 18 *** ,
the next one could be *** Fedora 19 *
On 05/02/2012 06:38 PM, Roger wrote:
> On 03/05/12 03:26, Maurizio Marini wrote:
>> Fedora change release every 6 months, as far as i can see this
>> is not
>> enough to select the new name, you should change release more
>> slowly...
> What about getting entirely radical and call it *** Fedora
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Jonathan Allen
wrote:
> Joe,
>
>> >No-one else can get a graphical session on that box because the graphical
>> >console is taken with the stalled session, but console logins are still
>> >fine and other users can freely start graphic sessions on other machines
>>
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
>
>>> My concern is if I were to loose /dev/sda I want to be able to boot via
>>> /dev/sdb.
>>
>> yes, because /dev/sda does NOt have GRUB, /dev/sdb has
>>
>>> Or am I reading the output from file wrong and its actually /dev/sda
>>> that
>>> does
--- On Wed, 5/2/12, Chris Adams wrote:
> From: Chris Adams
> Subject: Re: Fedora 18 release name
> To: "Community support for Fedora users"
> Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 3:13 PM
> Once upon a time, Alan Cox
> said:
> > You can have fun with physicists 8)
>
> As a mathematician, I look at
On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 18:12 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > As a mathematician, I look at "spherical" and want to ask if
> > Fedora
> > accepts the Axiom of Choice - if so, we can have two
> > identical spherical
> > cows, but who really wants to decompose a cow to get
> > there. Of course,
> >
On 05/02/2012 05:30 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
Well, then, the user should try to log in on a regular X11 session
(usual graphical login), get the freeze, then log in immediately via
ssh or a virtual console and look at his hidden files under the home
directory:
ls -lart ~/
or /home/username if the a
On 05/02/2012 06:12 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
Just like the American Political System, we have no voice and no vote :(, the "Ruling
Elite" are the ones that chose names and vote, us the users are the ones that have to end up
with whatever others choose if we are not part of the "Ruling Elite"
> I think Chris was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2%
> 80%93Tarski_paradox as applied to spherical cows.
>
> poc
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Dear sir,
I did not know about this :( Thank you for explaining/referring me to this. I
had heard about Banach spaces in college and just heard of T
I'm running F15. Files are mysteriously being removed from /tmp after a
number of days of not being touched. I am familiar with
/etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch and, in fact, modify it to inhibit removal of
files from /tmp. In the past this has worked. Under F15 it has not.
Two or three weeks ago I de
On 05/02/2012 07:01 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
Spherical Cows, would other animals want to get in Fedora naming schemes for
next versions of Fedora?
Smiling Kzinti?
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On 05/02/2012 07:47 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote:
Does anyone know of another mechanism for this?
Just out of curiosity, why don't you want files to be removed from /tmp?
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On 05/03/2012 11:24 AM, Jeoe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/02/2012 07:47 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote:
>> Does anyone know of another mechanism for this?
>
> Just out of curiosity, why don't you want files to be removed from /tmp?
That question raises a question that I've been wanting to ask several times.
S
On Wed, 2 May 2012 19:01:43 -0700 (PDT)
Antonio Olivares wrote:
>snip
>
> Spherical Cows, would other animals want to get in Fedora naming
> schemes for next versions of Fedora?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antonio
I'm holding out for Streamlined Ape.
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On Wed, 02 May 2012 at 20:24:46 Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/02/2012 07:47 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote:
> > Does anyone know of another mechanism for this?
>
> Just out of curiosity, why don't you want files to be removed from /tmp?
Because I have the bad habit of sometimes creating directories in /tm
Ed Greshko wrote:
> That question raises a question that I've been wanting to ask several
> times. So, although I'm asking it in this thread, it isn't solely
> directed at you.
>
> When someone on this list asks for help in modifying a behavior to suit
> their needs/desires why are they often as
On 05/02/2012 08:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
When someone on this list asks for help in modifying a behavior to suit their
needs/desires why are they often asked to justify their requests?
I can't speak for anybody else on the list, but my question was prompted
by nothing more than curiosity. If
On 05/02/2012 08:44 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote:
Now that you know my dirty little secret, can you tell me what could be
gratuitously cleaning /tmp?
Thank you for satisfying my curiosity. Alas, the only thing I could
have suggested is tmpwatch, and you've already eliminated that as a
possibili
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 11:40 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/03/2012 11:24 AM, Jeoe Zeff wrote:
> > On 05/02/2012 07:47 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote:
> >> Does anyone know of another mechanism for this?
> >
> > Just out of curiosity, why don't you want files to be removed from /tmp?
>
> That question
On 05/03/2012 12:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Anyone who finds himself (officially or unofficially) in a support role
> soon learns that it can make all the difference if you understand what
> the user is actually trying to do, rather than just taking his question
> at face value. Maybe not
Dean S. Messing writes:
I'm running F15. Files are mysteriously being removed from /tmp after a
number of days of not being touched. I am familiar with
/etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch and, in fact, modify it to inhibit removal of
files from /tmp. In the past this has worked. Under F15 it has not.
On 05/02/2012 02:30 AM, Roger wrote:
I wore full aluminium foil head gear as recommended, and full
aluminium foil body suit and got rotated while driving the bus. Not
nice, although the kids loved the sparkly blue glow.
Roger
Then you need to enclose those wires in sheet metal, metal screen
On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 19:47 -0700, Dean S. Messing wrote:
> older files _still_ get removed from /tmp. I've rebooted at least
> once.
While I can't answer to why old files might be disappearing, other than
to check more than just *daily* CRON entries (hourly, weekly, specific
hours of the day), I'
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Dean S. Messing writes:
> >
> > I'm running F15. Files are mysteriously being removed from /tmp after a
> > number of days of not being touched. I am familiar with
> > /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch and, in fact, modify it to inhibit removal of
> > files from /tmp. In the pa
Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/02/2012 08:44 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote:
> > Now that you know my dirty little secret, can you tell me what could be
> > gratuitously cleaning /tmp?
>
> Thank you for satisfying my curiosity. Alas, the only thing I could
> have suggested is tmpwatch, and you've already e
On Thu, 03 May 2012 at 15:40:40, Tim wrote:
> While I can't answer to why old files might be disappearing, other than
> to check more than just *daily* CRON entries (hourly, weekly, specific
> hours of the day), I'll suggest one thing: If you want to keep /tmp
> contents through a reboot, make su
On 05/03/2012 12:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> do you have BleachBit set to run at boot, or any other time automatically?
> If so,
> it might be set to clear /tmp.
It does not appear that bleachbit is in the Fedora repositories or rpmfusion.
Seems
if one wanted to install it they would have had to
On 03/05/12 07:40, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 05/03/2012 12:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
do you have BleachBit set to run at boot, or any other time automatically? If
so,
it might be set to clear /tmp.
It does not appear that bleachbit is in the Fedora repositories or rpmfusion.
Seems
if one wanted to
Hi all
I would like to buy an Acer T231H and would like to know if there is any
chance the "touch" feature is supported.
It's a "touch" screen, with multitouch (zoom) and slide feature, but
with a Windows driver: is there any Fedora package to fully use it?
https://www.google.com/search?q=a
2012-05-03 08:40, Ed Greshko skrev:
On 05/03/2012 12:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
do you have BleachBit set to run at boot, or any other time automatically? If
so,
it might be set to clear /tmp.
It does not appear that bleachbit is in the Fedora repositories or rpmfusion.
Seems
if one wanted to
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