F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Dear friends, Just updated to the latest kernel 3.3.1 and rebooted and tried to get everything going but I get: $ ssh-add Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. $ What is this supposed to mean? This is perhaps the first time I have seen this error in almost 15 years on linux.

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/2012 03:01 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Dear friends, > > Just updated to the latest kernel 3.3.1 and rebooted and tried to get > everything going but I get: > > $ ssh-add > Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. > $ > > What is this supposed to mean? This is perhaps the f

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 05:02, schrieb Charles Zeitler: > Do what thou wilt > shall be the whole of the Law. not if you are generating thousands of mails do what you will if it only affects you oh, and after some verification i saw that this is a childish "footer" on top > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:20 A

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 08:20, Reindl Harald wrote: > would you PLEASE send replies only back to the > list and ONLY to ONE incarnation of this list > the first To and the Cc are useless > in thunderbird you can even drag a "reoply to list" > button to your icon-bar that can handle reply to > maili

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 11:13, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 08:20, Reindl Harald wrote: >> would you PLEASE send replies only back to the >> list and ONLY to ONE incarnation of this list >> the first To and the Cc are useless >> in thunderbird you can even drag a "reoply to list" >> b

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 10:25, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 07.04.2012 11:13, schrieb Fernando Cassia: >> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 08:20, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> would you PLEASE send replies only back to the >>> list and ONLY to ONE incarnation of this list >>> the first To and the Cc are useless >>> in thu

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/04/12 11:43, Sam Sharpe wrote: The fix for this is to disable the old list address and bounce it with a message indicating the correct new list address, instead of forwarding it on to the real list address. It's been a while since the list hosting was moved, perhaps now it's worth severing

yum file\dir ownership couple of questions

2012-04-07 Thread Frank Murphy
as this is not specific to testing, asking here. I want to use an /nfs/ mountpoint as the yum cache. edit /etc/yum.conf done. is it possible to yum update as named user, which is me. with out having to do a su\sudo *1 I can chown -R root:user the cache /nfs/yum/$release/$arch, or would user:roo

Re: Which one is the best, restore grub load or reinstall 64bit Fedora 16

2012-04-07 Thread yujian
Win7 and F16 are in two different partion. But I do not have F16 DVD, I will try to use the grub4dos to load in the fedora system to resotre grub 在 2012年4月6日 下午10:51,Aaron Konstam 写道: > On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 11:33 +0800, yujian wrote: > > My notebook is updated to 8G memory, and I reinstall

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:51:53 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: but at least i am talking to everybody who is not aware how to use a mailprogram - i can not verify if you are one of them because i do the work removing duplicates in my mail-archive If you don't want duplicate copies, you can s

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 15:24, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:51:53 +0200, > Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> but at least i am talking to everybody who is not >> aware how to use a mailprogram - i can not verify >> if you are one of them because i do the work >> removing duplicates in

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 15:38:29 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.04.2012 15:24, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:51:53 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: but at least i am talking to everybody who is not aware how to use a mailprogram - i can not verify if you are one of

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 15:50, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: >> it is not the job of my mail-client repair mistakes of others > > They are only mistakes in your mind. The normal way to reply is to use reply > all. This covers people who want to have their address in the recipient > headers so they can treat th

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 04/07/2012 04:50 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: it is not the job of my mail-client repair mistakes of others They are only mistakes in your mind. The normal way to reply is to use reply all Completely wrong. - The normal way to "answer to all" is "reply all" - The normal way to answer on th

Re: Which one is the best, restore grub load or reinstall 64bit Fedora 16

2012-04-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 21:09 +0800, yujian wrote: > Win7 and F16 are in two different partion. But I do not have F16 > DVD, I will try to use the grub4dos to load in the fedora system to > resotre grub > > > 在 2012年4月6日 下午10:51,Aaron Konstam 写 > 道: > On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 11:33 +0800,

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 14:57, Reindl Harald wrote: > really, as long you do not understand the headers in > a mail and the fact the no one needs multiple copies > of the same mails do not explain people "the normal way" Scroll up a few messages. I've already stated that the problem was in the headers of

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 16:04, schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby: > On 04/07/2012 04:50 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> it is not the job of my mail-client repair mistakes of others >> >> They are only mistakes in your mind. The normal way to reply is to use >> reply all > > Completely wrong. > > - The norma

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 16:48, schrieb Sam Sharpe: > On 7 April 2012 14:57, Reindl Harald wrote: >> really, as long you do not understand the headers in >> a mail and the fact the no one needs multiple copies >> of the same mails do not explain people "the normal way" > > Scroll up a few messages. I've a

Fedora 16: dropping spontaneously into "Emergency Mode"

2012-04-07 Thread 'Chris Hall'
Having recently installed Fedora 16, replacing Fedora 14, I am now plagued by the thing spontaneously falling into "Emergency Mode"... "Welcome to Emergency Mode" ha ha ! The last things in /var/log/messages are: Apr 7 14:55:54 hestia systemd[1]: Job dev-sdb5.device/start timed out. Apr 7 14:

F16: Raid1 /home failing to restart cleanly

2012-04-07 Thread 'Chris Hall'
I have a /home partition which is set up as a Software RAID1, using /dev/md0. When I reboot the /dev/md0 fails to come up cleanly. So far it has come back each time, but nearly every time it comes up with one of the two members of the RAID array missing. I can mdadm /dev/md0 --re-add /dev/sdb

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 15:24:22 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/07/2012 03:01 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > Just updated to the latest kernel 3.3.1 and rebooted and tried to get > > everything going but I get: > > > > $ ssh-add > > Could not open a connection to your authenticati

F16: forever activating certain services...

2012-04-07 Thread 'Chris Hall'
So the dbus daemon appears to be a busy little bee... but the buzzing noise is getting on my nerves. I see a lot of this stuff in /var/log/messages: Apr 7 15:49:49 hestia dbus[1024]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.PackageKit' (using servicehelper) Apr 7 15:49:49 hestia dbu

Re: F16: Raid1 /home failing to restart cleanly

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 17:10, schrieb 'Chris Hall': > > I have a /home partition which is set up as a Software RAID1, using /dev/md0. > > When I reboot the /dev/md0 fails to come up cleanly. So far it has come back > each time, but nearly every time it comes up with one of the two members of > the RA

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 10:51 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > oh, and after some verification i saw that > this is a childish "footer" on top This guy is the only person I've seen in 20 years of using mailing lists who puts his signature on top. At least other people's pet obsessions are easier to ign

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/2012 11:10 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> It means /usr/bin/ssh-agent isn't running. > But why did it suddenly stop? Are you sure it even started? (See below) > >> > >> > How are you logging in? > The usual way: type password in lxdm. Is this what you were asking? I asked because it

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/2012 11:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > This guy is the only person I've seen in 20 years of using mailing lists > who puts his signature on top. At least other people's pet obsessions > are easier to ignore; this one get in the way of every one of his posts. > I wonder when he'll real

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:28:05 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/07/2012 11:10 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > >> It means /usr/bin/ssh-agent isn't running. > > But why did it suddenly stop? > > Are you sure it even started? (See below) In the past, it has always started. > >> > > >> > How are y

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/07/2012 08:22 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I wonder when he'll realize it's counter-productive. Considering the anti-social nature of the quote, I rather doubt he cares. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
How can I measure system transit time in this satellite system. I don't need great precision, just a rough idea of the time from here to the satellite, back down to the earth station/gateway, destination, and return. I used to look at ntpq when I wanted a clue b

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/2012 11:33 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > This has always been the case from when I used fvwm, xfce and (now) lxde. So, it had started previously under lxde? >> So Does it get started again when you logout/login? > No. Do I use systemd on this? But again, I have never had to do this, >

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/2012 11:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, it had started previously under lxde? FWIW, I just group installed LXDE on a VM and ssh-agent started OK when I logged in. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Evera

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 23:53:12 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/07/2012 11:33 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > This has always been the case from when I used fvwm, xfce and (now) lxde. > > So, it had started previously under lxde? Yes, until last night's updates (which may not have been relevant). >

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 15:52, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.04.2012 16:48, schrieb Sam Sharpe: >> On 7 April 2012 14:57, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> really, as long you do not understand the headers in >>> a mail and the fact the no one needs multiple copies >>> of the same mails do not explain people "

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 00:05:50 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/07/2012 11:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > So, it had started previously under lxde? > > FWIW, I just group installed LXDE on a VM and ssh-agent started OK when I > logged in. > OK, then it is me perhaps. But I did nothing out of the or

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 18:07, schrieb Sam Sharpe: > Ok, you're not getting this. Let me explain simply so that you > understand and we can end this tedious argument you seem to want to > spend a lot of effort on a weekend to perpetuate. > > There were three email addresses in the reply: > > 1) The sende

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/08/2012 12:12 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 00:05:50 +0800 Ed Greshko > wrote: > >> On 04/07/2012 11:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> So, it had started previously under lxde? >> FWIW, I just group installed LXDE on a VM and ssh-agent started OK when I >> logged in. >> > OK, the

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 17:21, Reindl Harald wrote: > some stuff Hi, You don't get my point; you seem to want to keep an argument going. I don't understand why, but I know for certain you can't sustain an argument on your own, so I'll just cut you off at this end. Have a pleasant weekend. -- Sam -- u

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/08/2012 12:30 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > On 7 April 2012 17:21, Reindl Harald wrote: >> some stuff > Hi, > > You don't get my point; you seem to want to keep an argument going. I > don't understand why, but I know for certain you can't sustain an > argument on your own, so I'll just cut you off

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > The fix for this is to disable the old list address and bounce it with > a message indicating the correct new list address, instead of > forwarding it on to the real list address. It's been a while since the > list hosting was moved, perhaps now

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 18:21:09 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: because i get often enough mails twice as reply and i can not remember that i configured anything in a way imply that i want this I already told you how to do that. You either have your email client send a mail-followup-to header

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 00:35:25 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: I would lobby the fedora list managers to deactivate the fedora-l...@redhat.com address and return an error message to anyone sending to that list address. Everyone who has expressed an opinion in this thread seems to be in agreemen

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/08/2012 12:41 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> The fix for this is to disable the old list address and bounce it with >> a message indicating the correct new list address, instead of >> forwarding it on to the real list address. It's been a

Re: Fedora 16: dropping spontaneously into "Emergency Mode"

2012-04-07 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Chris Hall wrote: > Having recently installed Fedora 16, replacing Fedora 14, I am now plagued by > the thing spontaneously falling into "Emergency Mode"... "Welcome to > Emergency Mode" ha ha ! > > The last things in /var/log/messages are: > > As it happens, /de

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/08/2012 12:41 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Sam Sharpe >> wrote: >>> The fix for this is to disable the old list address and bounce it with >>> a message indicating the correct new list address, instead

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 18:21 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > register on a mailing-list usually means people > are sending and replying to the list-adress and > that there is no reason for "reply all" > > there is no "i want mails twice" setting > so nobody can imply "reply all" is the right actio

RE: F16: Raid1 /home failing to restart cleanly

2012-04-07 Thread 'Chris Hall'
Reindl Harald wrote (on Sat 07-Apr-2012 at 16:22 +0100): > Am 07.04.2012 17:10, schrieb 'Chris Hall': > > > > I have a /home partition which is set up as a Software RAID1, > > using /dev/md0. > > > > When I reboot the /dev/md0 fails to come up cleanly. So far it > > has come back each time, but ne

Re: F16: Raid1 /home failing to restart cleanly

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 19:45, schrieb 'Chris Hall': > Reindl Harald wrote (on Sat 07-Apr-2012 at 16:22 +0100): >> Am 07.04.2012 17:10, schrieb 'Chris Hall': >>> >>> I have a /home partition which is set up as a Software RAID1, >>> using /dev/md0. >>> >>> When I reboot the /dev/md0 fails to come up cleanly

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 19:31, schrieb Craig White: > On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 18:21 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> register on a mailing-list usually means people >> are sending and replying to the list-adress and >> that there is no reason for "reply all" >> >> there is no "i want mails twice" setting >>

RE: Fedora 16: dropping spontaneously into "Emergency Mode"

2012-04-07 Thread 'Chris Hall'
T.C. Hollingsworth wrote (on Sat 07-Apr-2012 at 18:02 +0100): > > Can anybody point be in the direction of what is going on here, > > and how I may be able to restore some stability to my Fedora 16 > > installation, which is currently falling over about once a day at > > random. > Well, the r

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 17:07 +0100, Sam Sharpe wrote: > Fernando has the > same on his Gmail I would guess, so he didn't hit "Reply to All" - he > has no such option. Actually Gmail has both Reply and Reply to All. What it doesn't have is Reply to List. That's one reason I access my lists via Evolu

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 20:21, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 17:07 +0100, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> Fernando has the >> same on his Gmail I would guess, so he didn't hit "Reply to All" - he >> has no such option. > > Actually Gmail has both Reply and Reply to All. What it doesn't have is

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 21:04:38 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: well, reply is enough to act correct each list-message has a "Reply-To"-header No each list doesn't have that. Many Fedora lists do. Doing this (lists munging reply-to headers) is also a bad idea, as it breaks the reply to sender

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 21:08, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 21:04:38 +0200, > Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> well, reply is enough to act correct >> each list-message has a "Reply-To"-header > > No each list doesn't have that. Many Fedora lists do. so what, we are speaking about thi

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 21:20:31 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: set reply-to headers is for people who are unable for "reply-to-list" by their bad mail-program or ignorance Not exactly. The reason people started doing this as people were meaning to reply to list messages, but were using the re

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 21:27, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 21:20:31 +0200, > Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> set reply-to headers is for people who are unable for >> "reply-to-list" by their bad mail-program or ignorance > > Not exactly. The reason people started doing this as people

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/04/07 10:55, Reindl Harald wrote: correct, but there will always be Reindl, you are a useful > new users which are not member of this list. Please realizing that they are doing drop this nonsense so this > something wrong and they can

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/04/07 08:39, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How can I measure system transit time in this satellite system. I don't need great precision, just a rough idea of the time from here to the satellite, back down to the earth station/gateway, destination, and return. I used to look at

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 21:43, schrieb jdow: > On 2012/04/07 10:55, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> correct, but there will always be Reindl, you are a useful >> new users which are not member of this list. Please >> realizing that they are doing drop this nonsense so thi

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 04/07/2012 03:56 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/04/07 08:39, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How can I measure system transit time in this satellite system. I don't need great precision, just a rough idea of the time from here to the satellite, back down to the earth station/gateway, destin

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 19:21, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 17:07 +0100, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> Fernando has the >> same on his Gmail I would guess, so he didn't hit "Reply to All" - he >> has no such option. > > Actually Gmail has both Reply and Reply to All. What it doesn't have is >

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 11:39 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > How can I measure system transit time in this satellite system. > I don't need great precision, just a rough idea of the time from > here to the satellite, back down to the earth station/gateway, >

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 20:04, Reindl Harald wrote: > well, reply is enough to act correct > each list-message has a "Reply-To"-header > > so everyone even with gmail must be ignorant to > say "it is not the fault of the user" > - > > X-BeenThere: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Errors-To

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 23:41, schrieb Sam Sharpe: > Fascinating as these headers are, lets look back at the headers of the > message Fernando replied to and you called him out for bad etiquette: > > To: Fedora List > Reply-To: p...@pricom.com.au, > Community support for Fedora users > > Do you a

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/07/2012 08:39 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How can I measure system transit time in this satellite system. I don't need great precision, just a rough idea of the time from here to the satellite, back down to the earth station/gateway, destinat

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.04.2012 23:41, schrieb Sam Sharpe: > Fascinating as these headers are, lets look back at the headers of the > message Fernando replied to and you called him out for bad etiquette: > > To: Fedora List > Reply-To: p...@pricom.com.au, > Community support for Fedora users > > Do you a

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 23:03, Reindl Harald wrote: > so no, you can not impress me with any reference and the fact that > you stil do not understand why "reply all" is idiotic (to say it clear) > shows that you are one more of the "big but failing" At no point have I discussed whether reply to all is c

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.04.2012 00:28, schrieb Sam Sharpe: > All I want is for you to agree that you were wrong to make that > initial personal accusation and to get on with you life, stop name > dropping Wietse and grow up, you are 34 years old, so start acting it. > I only dropped my credentials in there because

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 04/07/2012 06:03 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/07/2012 08:39 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How can I measure system transit time in this satellite system. I don't need great precision, just a rough idea of the time from here to the satellite, back down to th

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 23:36, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 08.04.2012 00:28, schrieb Sam Sharpe: >> All I want is for you to agree that you were wrong to make that >> initial personal accusation and to get on with you life, stop name >> dropping Wietse and grow up, you are 34 years old, so start acting

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.04.2012 00:47, schrieb Sam Sharpe: > On 7 April 2012 23:36, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 08.04.2012 00:28, schrieb Sam Sharpe: >>> All I want is for you to agree that you were wrong to make that >>> initial personal accusation and to get on with you life, stop name >>> dropping Wietse

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 23:56, Reindl Harald wrote: > so may have not - but the will even not if you paint > them a picture - so hwat exactly is your danmed problem? I've been trying to work out what your problem is all day, you started this thread, not me. You could have ended it right after I pointed o

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 7 April 2012 23:41, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >       Putting that address into mtr system2 produces the same complaint. > >           [bobg@box7 ~]$ mtr system2 --address  10.73.255.21 > >           Failed to resolve host: Name or service not known Do you have a host called sy

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread David
On 4/7/2012 6:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.04.2012 23:41, schrieb Sam Sharpe: >> Fascinating as these headers are, lets look back at the headers >> of the message Fernando replied to and you called him out for bad >> etiquette: >> >> To: Fedora List Reply-To: >> p...@pricom.com.au, C

Re: F16: ssh-add: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.

2012-04-07 Thread Ranjan Maitra
> > egreshko 1595 1483 0 00:21 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /bin/sh -c > exec -l > /bin/bash -c "/usr/bin/startlxde" > > and the environment variables are set accordingly. > > SSH_AGENT_PID=1595 > SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-CQUbfzKj1483/agent.1483 > SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/libexec/openssh/gnom

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 04/07/2012 07:06 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 7 April 2012 23:41, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Putting that address into mtr system2 produces the same complaint. [bobg@box7 ~]$ mtr system2 --address 10.73.255.21 Failed to resolve host: Name or servic

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/07/2012 03:47 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: Changing the subject has little relevance to how mail clients thread the messages. But then I'm guessing you're going to say that's wrong too. Not everybody has their mail client thread messages. Personally, I've always preferred to read them in chron

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/07/2012 07:20 PM, David wrote: Honest to goodness people! There are some people that will never let the truth, the facts, or reality interfere with what they have been told to believe. Ah! So this is where you've been hiding. Just in lurk mode, I re-subscribed just to see how Fedora_us

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > ... >I used to look at ntpq when I wanted a clue but that is >apparently not available for F-16/64? > ... F-16 x86_64 has native ntp package (ntp-4.2.6p4-1.fc16.x86_64.rpm is current version) which contain ntpq command. -- users mailing li

Re: why is ipv6 fixly compiled in latest F15 and all F16 kernels?

2012-04-07 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> Hello, up to Fedora 15 including, there was ipv6 as loadable kernel >> module and was not problem disable/not load it. But recent F15 and >> F16 kernels have IPV6 support compiled in kernel, know anyone for >> which reason? For IPv4-only sites (whi

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/04/07 15:41, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I think traceroute probably tells me what I wanted to know, The system delay is > 600 ms. [bobg@box7 ~]$ traceroute cnn.com traceroute to cnn.com (157.166.226.26), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 1.551 ms 1.4

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/04/07 16:43, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 04/07/2012 07:06 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 7 April 2012 23:41, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Putting that address into mtr system2 produces the same complaint. [bobg@box7 ~]$ mtr system2 --address 10.73.255.21 Failed

Re: how to use a mailing-list

2012-04-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 22:20 +0100, Sam Sharpe wrote: > On 7 April 2012 19:21, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 17:07 +0100, Sam Sharpe wrote: > >> Fernando has the > >> same on his Gmail I would guess, so he didn't hit "Reply to All" - he > >> has no such option. > > > > Actual

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/07/2012 08:33 PM, jdow wrote: "mtr cnn.com" is actually much quicker to get to the last hop so you know the IP addresses involved. I was under the impression that he was trying to find the latency of the satellite link and traceroute would give him the IP of the first router. And, j

Re: System transit time, Latency -

2012-04-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/08/2012 01:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/07/2012 08:33 PM, jdow wrote: >>> >> >> "mtr cnn.com" is actually much quicker to get to the last hop so you >> know the IP addresses involved. > > I was under the impression that he was trying to find the latency of the > satellite > link and tracer