Re: Java crashes in Mozilla Firefox

2011-10-10 Thread Per Anton Rønning
Ian Malone wrote: > On 8 October 2011 09:05, Heinz Diehl wrote: >> On 08.10.2011, Per Anton Rønning wrote: >> >>> Error occurred during initialization of VM >>> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object >>> Ring a bell? >> Unfortunately not. Does this one help? >> >> http://javarevisited.bl

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-10 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 00:07 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 22:48, Craig White wrote: > > > > Considering that Rahul is a tireless ambassador for Fedora and puts up > > with stupid comments like the above > > I apologize. Let me rephrase it in a more civilized manner, then:

How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Hi, I found this article: http://blog.shadypixel.com/safely-removing-external-drives-in-linux/ It explains how properly to unmount, eject and remove sata hdd drives from linux machines. The issue is that I can't find scsiadd tool for Fedora. What is the correct and proper way to unmount and remov

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-10 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 07:11, Craig White wrote: > The real power of FOSS is about people who recognize a need and they > fill it rather than waiting around for someone else to do the work. I don´t have the time (or health for that matter) to devote to any large-scale software project. I´m just

Unlock SIM pin with NetworkManager

2011-10-10 Thread Daniele Guerrieri
Hi, i'm searching for a method to force unlock of sim card pin in a huawei usb hsdpa device (ZTE K3565-Z HSDPA). The problem is this: the first time i insert it, i'm asked for the PIN with a popup dialog and so the sim gets unlocked and i can connect to it with wammu. BUT if I suspend,hibernate

Re: Adobe 64-bit Flash crashing with proprietary AMD driver

2011-10-10 Thread Nick Urbanik
Dear Folks, On 05/10/11 14:19 +, Andre Robatino wrote: >Adobe now has full 64-bit Flash support, including a 64-bit >repo. Just go to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ , select "YUM for >Linux (YUM)", download and install >adobe-release-x86_64-1.0-1.noarch.rpm, and install flash-plugin from >t

Re: Module: Option VS usbserial

2011-10-10 Thread Pedro Francisco
Thread's title should be: "Module: Option VS cdc_ether", sorry. On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Pedro Francisco wrote: > Any idea why on Ubuntu my ZTE k3805-z 3G pen gets managed by the module > "option" and on F15 it's managed by cdc_ether ? > > I've installed usb_modeswitch 1.1.9 on F15 so the

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 October 2011 12:57, Fernando Cassia wrote: > To take one example, I found a user asking on how to reset gnome panels. > > The answer: > --- > "Code: > > gconftool --recursive-unset  /apps/panel > killall gnome-panel > > "your panels should then reset , and respawn. Should fix most issues."

Re: Upgrading to F16 Beta

2011-10-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/10/2011 05:27 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 07:11, Craig White wrote: >> The real power of FOSS is about people who recognize a need and they >> fill it rather than waiting around for someone else to do the work. > > I don´t have the time (or health for that matter) t

Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 10/10/2011 03:32:33 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > I found this article: > http://blog.shadypixel.com/safely-removing-external-drives-in-linux/ > > It explains how properly to unmount, eject and remove sata hdd drives > from linux machines. > The issue is that I can't find scsiadd

Whats happened to xinetd and tftp on F15 ?

2011-10-10 Thread Aaron Gray
Whats happened to xinetd and tftp on F15 ? Many thanks in advance, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread sean darcy
Did a preupgrade to F15. That left a lot of dupes - 1187 of them. Ran package-cleanup --cleandupes. That didn't work. Got endless: error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h#918 Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 97A1071f: BAD What is this? Do I need new public keys? If so, how to instal

RE: Whats happened to xinetd and tftp on F15 ?

2011-10-10 Thread Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA)
> Whats happened to xinetd and tftp on F15 ? Available Packages tftp.i686 0.49-8.fc15fedora tftp-server.i686 0.49-8.fc15fedora xinetd.i686 2:2.3.14-36.fc15

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread sean darcy
On 10/10/2011 11:26 AM, sean darcy wrote: > Did a preupgrade to F15. That left a lot of dupes - 1187 of them. Ran > package-cleanup --cleandupes. > > That didn't work. Got endless: > > error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h#918 Header V3 RSA/SHA256 > Signature, key ID 97A1071f: BAD > > What is

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread linux guy
I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. On that machine I upgraded from the full install DVD instead of doing a yum preupgrade. Actually, I did the later, but it failed. Anyhow, I believe I ran a yum check all > list.txt and then edited the file and then used it as input

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 08:30 AM, sean darcy wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:26 AM, sean darcy wrote: >> Did a preupgrade to F15. That left a lot of dupes - 1187 of them. Ran >> package-cleanup --cleandupes. >> >> That didn't work. Got endless: >> >> error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h#918 Header V3 RSA/SH

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 08:49 AM, linux guy wrote: > I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. > > On that machine I upgraded from the full install DVD instead of doing > a yum preupgrade. Actually, I did the later, but it failed. > > Anyhow, I believe I ran a yum check all > list.tx

Re: Rhythymbox on F15 under gnome3 (broken)

2011-10-10 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
I have not been able to get rhythmbox on F15 under gnome3 to work with magnatunes or jamendo. The radio as well as the direct access of music on my pc works fine. Other software like 'movie player' and 'dragon player' work fine. When I try to connect to magnatunes or jamendo it attempts to down

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread linux guy
On 10/10/11, JD wrote: > Very interesting (to me). > Had similar problem after I upgraded F14 to F16. > The database got corrupted and rebuilddb would > fail. Gave up and restored back to F14 from backup. To be clear, in my situation the database did not fail. By duplicates, I meant that I had

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/10/2011 09:48 PM, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 08:49 AM, linux guy wrote: >> I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. >> >> On that machine I upgraded from the full install DVD instead of doing >> a yum preupgrade. Actually, I did the later, but it failed. >> >> Anyhow,

Re: Whats happened to xinetd and tftp on F15 ?

2011-10-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 10 October 2011 16:27, Miner, Jonathan W (US SSA) < jonathan.w.mi...@baesystems.com> wrote: > > Whats happened to xinetd and tftp on F15 ? > > Available Packages > tftp.i686 0.49-8.fc15 > fedora > tftp-server.i686 0.49-8.fc15 > fedora > xinet

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread linux guy
I wonder if this thread plays well into the idea > that upgrading using yum should be scripted by > an expert so that us mortals do not have to slog > through this mud :) > > a) My issue was not caused by a yum preupgrade. It happened by running the complete install DVD over an existing installa

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 09:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 09:48 PM, JD wrote: >> On 10/10/2011 08:49 AM, linux guy wrote: >>> I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. >>> >>> On that machine I upgraded from the full install DVD instead of doing >>> a yum preupgrade. Act

F15 install. File system errors left uncorrected.

2011-10-10 Thread linux guy
I'm installing F15 on an HP laptop from the F15 KDE Live iso loaded on a USB flash drive. I've installed F15 on 6 computers with no problems using the same iso + drive. Furthermore, it passes the verify and run test when it boots. I'm receiving the following message when the installation is com

Re: What spins are most minimal?

2011-10-10 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:53:12 +0200, suvayu ali wrote: > du -hs /* That gives me six-digit numbers in /home, /lib, and /var, but a seven-digit number in /usr. Baobab tells me I'm using 3.2 GB of 3.7, with 1.9 GB or 69.2% in / usr. 53.4% (1.0 GB) is in /usr/share, and 28%(280.8 MB

Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.

2011-10-10 Thread linux guy
**I ask that flamers please withhold whatever comments may derail this thread from its goal of helping me run the proprietary nVidia driver.** Rightly or wrongly, prior to F15, I've used the proprietary nVidia driver almost exclusively. I abandoned the proprietary nVidia driver with my upgrade to

Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Aaron Gray
I am getting timeouts on TFTP on F15, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread sean darcy
On 10/10/2011 11:30 AM, sean darcy wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:26 AM, sean darcy wrote: >> Did a preupgrade to F15. That left a lot of dupes - 1187 of them. Ran >> package-cleanup --cleandupes. >> >> That didn't work. Got endless: >> >> error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h#918 Header V3 RSA/SH

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/10/2011 10:12 PM, JD wrote: > Well, in that case, what's the difference between > what you say (re: it would have bugs), and all the > rest of the software, from the kernel to the shell? > Have they all not had bugs, and continue to have > bugs today? Yes and the solution is not to replace

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread sean darcy
On 10/10/2011 12:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 09:48 PM, JD wrote: >> On 10/10/2011 08:49 AM, linux guy wrote: >>> I had the same problem, for some reason, on one of my machines. >>> >>> On that machine I upgraded from the full install DVD instead of doing >>> a yum preupgrade. Act

/home double-mounted in F15

2011-10-10 Thread Rick Stevens
This may have been discussed in some other thread, but my F15 box seems to mount /home twice. It's listed but once in /etc/fstab, but none the less, two identical mounts show up: [rick@golem4 ~]# mount | grep home /dev/mapper/vg_golem4-lv_home on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel,user_xattr,b

Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.

2011-10-10 Thread Richard Shaw
Without more information it's nearly impossible to tell what's wrong. I did a preupgrade on my desktop from F14 to F15 and everything works fine with the binary nvidia drivers. I used both an oldre 7600GT and recently upgrade to a GTS450. I haven't had to mess with my xorg.conf at all. As far as

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 10 October 2011 18:28, Aaron Gray wrote: > I am getting timeouts on TFTP on F15, > > It works fine on my F15 laptop and used to work on this machine with F14 before I updated it > Aaron > > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: h

Re: /home double-mounted in F15

2011-10-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/10/2011 11:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > This may have been discussed in some other thread, but my F15 box seems > to mount /home twice. It's listed but once in /etc/fstab, but none the > less, two identical mounts show up: > Consequently things like baobab report double the disk space (e.g.

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 10:30 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 10:12 PM, JD wrote: > >> Well, in that case, what's the difference between >> what you say (re: it would have bugs), and all the >> rest of the software, from the kernel to the shell? >> Have they all not had bugs, and continue to have

Re: /home double-mounted in F15

2011-10-10 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/10/2011 11:01 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> This may have been discussed in some other thread, but my F15 box seems >> to mount /home twice. It's listed but once in /etc/fstab, but none the >> less, two identical mounts show up: > >> Consequently

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/10/2011 11:36 PM, JD wrote: > But that argues against your own argument that > a script will contain bugs. Of course it will - every > software ever written had them, and will have them. yes. so why is replacing one program with bugs with another script with bugs considered a solution? It

Re: What spins are most minimal?

2011-10-10 Thread suvayu ali
Hi, On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Beartooth wrote: > On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:53:12 +0200, suvayu ali wrote: > >> du -hs /* > >        That gives me six-digit numbers in /home, /lib, and /var, but a > seven-digit number in /usr. > What do you mean by 6 and 7 digit numbers? It should return disk

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread suvayu ali
Hi, On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM, JD wrote: >  > Upgrading a distribution is a fairly complex process to say the least. > > So, by virtue of that statement itself, non-techies and > newbs most certainly need such an expertly written script(s). > Scripts are usually meant to deal with corner c

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 11:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:36 PM, JD wrote: > >> But that argues against your own argument that >> a script will contain bugs. Of course it will - every >> software ever written had them, and will have them. > yes. so why is replacing one program with bugs wit

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 11:35 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM, JD wrote: >> > Upgrading a distribution is a fairly complex process to say the least. >> >> So, by virtue of that statement itself, non-techies and >> newbs most certainly need such an expertly written script(s

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/11/2011 12:14 AM, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 11:35 AM, suvayu ali wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM, JD wrote: >>> > Upgrading a distribution is a fairly complex process to say the least. >>> >>> So, by virtue of that statement itself, non-techies and >>> newbs most certa

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/11/2011 12:13 AM, JD wrote: > Preupgrade is not a single operation solution. The > user is expected to know several complex operations > and execute them in right order. Nonsense. It is a point and click gui. > A yum upgrade script would be a single point solution > that a user could run.

Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
> You will have to build it from source. What appears to be the primary > site is down, but you can find it here: > http://fossies.org/linux/misc/scsiadd-1.97.tar.gz/ Is scsiadd really necessary ? I tried using umount then eject but I get this error: eject: device "/dev/sdb" doesn't have a re

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Aaron Gray wrote: > I am getting timeouts on TFTP on F15, > > Aaron You should check at server side: 1) if tftp service is enabled: # chkconfig --list tftp Note: This output shows SysV services only and does not include native systemd services. SysV configuration data might be overridden

Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread Emmett Culley
On 10/10/2011 12:24 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: >> You will have to build it from source. What appears to be the primary >> site is down, but you can find it here: >> http://fossies.org/linux/misc/scsiadd-1.97.tar.gz/ > > Is scsiadd really necessary ? > > I tried using umount then eject

Re: [389-users] 389 pauses every 5 minutes under load

2011-10-10 Thread Justin Gronfur
On 10/10/2011 12:00 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: > Are you using replication? Is this a replication master? Is your > load tester doing delete operations? I am not using replication on this particular instance. Load tester is not doing any delete operations, almost all reads/searches. I would

Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:24:28 +0200 valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Aren't all sata drives removable and hotpluggable? Nope, just esata drives (don't know exactly what the difference is, but there is a difference of some kind). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 11:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 10/11/2011 12:13 AM, JD wrote: > >> Preupgrade is not a single operation solution. The >> user is expected to know several complex operations >> and execute them in right order. > Nonsense. It is a point and click gui. > >> A yum upgrade script wo

Re: [389-users] 389 pauses every 5 minutes under load

2011-10-10 Thread Rich Megginson
On 10/10/2011 01:34 PM, Justin Gronfur wrote: > On 10/10/2011 12:00 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: >> Are you using replication? Is this a replication master? Is your >> load tester doing delete operations? > > I am not using replication on this particular instance. Load tester > is not doing any d

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/10/2011 09:38 AM, linux guy wrote: > a) My issue was not caused by a yum preupgrade. It happened by running > the complete install DVD over an existing installation, ie upgrading it. Which did you do, upgrade your installation or simply do a new install without reformatting? If you did t

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/10/2011 09:42 AM, JD wrote: > And I agree, it is a complex process that newbs and > non-techies will always fail at accomplishing. Why? My sister is able to upgrade from one version of Ubuntu to the next without any help and she's a complete non-tech. I don't think the average non-tech w

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/11/2011 01:10 AM, JD wrote: I am only saying that upgrading should > be a completely trouble free operation, and that Fedora > devs can indeed fix this problem via a script or even > as you say, a point and click solution, which in it's > current incarnation, does not work. Then file a bug

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/10/2011 11:43 AM, JD wrote: > Preupgrade is not a single operation solution. The > user is expected to know several complex operations > and execute them in right order. Unless my memory's wrong, there are three steps: run preupgrade, selecting the appropriate Fedora version. Reboot into t

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/10/2011 12:40 PM, JD wrote: > So, if upgrading is such a complex and trouble > prone operation, what should an ambassador's > message to the world be regarding this issue? > That it can be done but it is fraught with problems > and dangers of rendering your system unreliable > at best, and (i

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 12:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/10/2011 09:42 AM, JD wrote: >> And I agree, it is a complex process that newbs and >> non-techies will always fail at accomplishing. > Why? My sister is able to upgrade from one version of Ubuntu to the > next without any help and she's a complete no

XFCE does not mount an audio CD

2011-10-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
When I am in XFCE audio CDs do not mount and play. On the same machine the audio CDs play in Gnome 3. What could be wrong in XFCE and how can it be fixed? All this is in F15. -- === But you shall not escape my iambics. -- Gaius

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:40 PM, JD wrote: > Rahul, > I tried preupgrade. > I tried upgrade via DVD. > I tried upgrade via yum according to > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum > All of them failed to upgrade the system to full F16. > Upgrading via all these methods left hund

Things I cant understand

2011-10-10 Thread Joao Daniel
Folks, I'm trying to install Snort. So, the first step is update libpcap. Look what I have done. 1) yum erase libpcap (to unistall old libpcap) tar -zxfv libpcap cd libpcap ./configure --libdir=/lib/ --bindir=/bin/ make make install 2) yum install ./daq.rpm At this point I got a messagen tell

Re: Things I cant understand

2011-10-10 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Joao Daniel wrote: > Folks, > > I'm trying to install Snort. So, the first step is update libpcap. Look > what I have done. > 1) > > yum erase libpcap (to unistall old libpcap) > tar -zxfv libpcap > cd libpcap > ./configure --libdir=/lib/ --bindir=/bin/ > make > ma

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 01:11 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:40 PM, JD wrote: >> Rahul, >> I tried preupgrade. >> I tried upgrade via DVD. >> I tried upgrade via yum according to >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum >> All of them failed to upgrade the system to ful

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/10/2011 01:10 PM, JD wrote: > I have done 5 upgrades so far that simply failed. > If you have not followed this thread, then please > read what I posted re: what failed. And, as I pointed out in another message, your experience is very, very atypical. I think you're going way too far in as

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 01:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/10/2011 01:10 PM, JD wrote: >> I have done 5 upgrades so far that simply failed. >> If you have not followed this thread, then please >> read what I posted re: what failed. > And, as I pointed out in another message, your experience is very, very > at

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 10 October 2011 20:25, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Aaron Gray wrote: > > I am getting timeouts on TFTP on F15, > > > > Aaron > > You should check at server side: > > 1) if tftp service is enabled: > # chkconfig --list tftp > > Note: This output shows SysV services only and does not include nati

Re: XFCE does not mount an audio CD

2011-10-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:10:37 -0500 Aaron Konstam wrote: > When I am in XFCE audio CDs do not mount and play. On the same machine > the audio CDs play in Gnome 3. > > What could be wrong in XFCE and how can it be fixed? > > All this is in F15. Audio cd's don't usually mount at all. You should b

Re: Things I cant understand

2011-10-10 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/10/2011 01:12 PM, Joao Daniel wrote: > Folks, > > I'm trying to install Snort. So, the first step is update libpcap. Look > what I have done. > 1) > > yum erase libpcap (to unistall old libpcap) > tar -zxfv libpcap > cd libpcap > ./configure --libdir=/lib/ --bindir=/bin/ > make > make inst

Re: XFCE does not mount an audio CD

2011-10-10 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/10/2011 01:10 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > When I am in XFCE audio CDs do not mount and play. On the same machine > the audio CDs play in Gnome 3. > > What could be wrong in XFCE and how can it be fixed? > > All this is in F15. Applications Menu--> Preferences-->

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/10/2011 01:29 PM, JD wrote: > I'll wait for the full release of f16 in Nov. > and try again. I will try to generate a log > of all the events and outputs. Excellent! Maybe at that time we can find out why your installation of Fedora is different, or what's happening that shouldn't. -- use

Re: Atheros AR9285 wireless & F15

2011-10-10 Thread Pedro Francisco
Have you reported your behaviour in a bug report? I've found it on Fedora 16 as well (different hardware: iwl3945 & hp_wmi) so I'd point to your bug just to put it in context. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 12:26 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: > > I cannot

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 13:19:10 -0700, JD wrote: > On 10/10/2011 01:11 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > Well, if packages not present in a previous release, > should not the new packages that replace them be > marked as "obsoletes " ? If something replaces it. However people make mistakes and this does

Re: Atheros AR9285 wireless & F15

2011-10-10 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Pedro Francisco wrote: > Have you reported your behaviour in a bug report? I've found it on Fedora 16 > as well (different hardware: iwl3945 & hp_wmi) so I'd point to your bug just > to put it in context. In both of your cases this looks to be a bug in wmi. I'm no

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 13:33:34 -0400, sean darcy wrote: > > In addition to this problem the kernel installation only partially > worked. No modules installed, no initramfs. Solved by getting the kernel > rpm and reinstalling. There are some bugs related to the switch from grub to grub2 and

Re: XFCE does not mount an audio CD

2011-10-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/10/2011 01:40 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Audio cd's don't usually mount at all. You should be able to put them > in and run your media playing application and it should see the cd and > let you play it. There will not be anything on the desktop however. Yes. We went through this same discussi

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Aaron Gray wrote: ... > > 4) if You use firewall (iptables), You should load nf_conntrack_tftp > module, > for tracking ephemeral ports. That means /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config > should > contain line as: > ... > IPTABLES_MODULES="nf_conntrack_tftp" > ... > (other m

Re: Things I cant understand

2011-10-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/10/2011 01:41 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > You should have just done a "yum install libpcap-devel" to get libpcap. > There's no need to install from a tarball--libpcap has been in Fedora's > repos for a LONG time. And, AIUI, yum only checks its own database to see what's installed, which is wh

Re: Things I cant understand

2011-10-10 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/10/2011 02:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/10/2011 01:41 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> You should have just done a "yum install libpcap-devel" to get libpcap. >> There's no need to install from a tarball--libpcap has been in Fedora's >> repos for a LONG time. > > And, AIUI, yum only checks its o

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 15:52, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > It is a fact.   There is a lot of empirical proof for this.  Scripts are > good for single purpose small cases.  Once you want to deal with complex > problems, a script won't scale.  Error handling isn't as sophisticated > for instance. I do

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Aaron Gray wrote: > ... > > > > 4) if You use firewall (iptables), You should load nf_conntrack_tftp > module, > > for tracking ephemeral ports. That means > /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config should > > contain line as: > > ... > >

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 10 October 2011 22:42, Aaron Gray wrote: > On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > >> Aaron Gray wrote:Tried that before with F14, made no difference, but I >> will try again. >> > No its not SELinux Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Alan Cox
> Unless my memory's wrong, there are three steps: run preupgrade, > selecting the appropriate Fedora version. Reboot into the preupgrade. > Reboot into your new version. Of course, that second step sometimes > takes a bit of paying attention, but that's how it's designed to work > and it's a

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Aaron Gray wrote: > On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik > > wrote: > > Aaron Gray wrote: > ... > > > > 4) if You use firewall (iptables), You should load > nf_conntrack_tftp module, > > for tracking ephemeral ports. That means > /et

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2011 02:14 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 13:33:34 -0400, >sean darcy wrote: >> In addition to this problem the kernel installation only partially >> worked. No modules installed, no initramfs. Solved by getting the kernel >> rpm and reinstalling. > There are som

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 10 October 2011 23:31, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Aaron Gray wrote: > > On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik fra...@hanzlici.cz>> > > wrote: > > > > Aaron Gray wrote: > > ... > > > > > > 4) if You use firewall (iptables), You should load > nf_conntrack_tftp module,

Re: Getting timeouts on TFTP on F15 as well as F14

2011-10-10 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Aaron Gray wrote: > On 10 October 2011 23:31, Frantisek Hanzlik > > wrote: > > Aaron Gray wrote: > > On 10 October 2011 22:20, Frantisek Hanzlik >> > > wrote: > > >

Re: Atheros AR9285 wireless & F15

2011-10-10 Thread Pedro Francisco
I'll try to find out how to debug hp_wmi and then we can start from there. Note: also happens on Ubuntu 11.10 so hopefully a lot more bug testers will appear :p On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Pedro Francisco > wrote: >> Have you reporte

No, I don't want to maximize my window

2011-10-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
In my opinion, one of the most annoying, obnoxious, and irritating behaviors in Gnome 3 is its in-your-face maximization of the window I'm dragging, when I move it partly off to the side of the screen. When I'm dragging the window, and the pointer reaches the edge of the screen, Gnome decides

Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

2011-10-10 Thread Larry Brower
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/10/2011 06:31 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: And this makes you feel like you need to throw a tantrum on this list like a small child? Perhaps you should direct this to the developer responsible... you know the ones... the Gnome devs. Oh wait, Yo

Re: F15 preupgrade: lots of uneraseable dupes

2011-10-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/11/2011 03:10 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 15:52, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> It is a fact. There is a lot of empirical proof for this. Scripts are >> good for single purpose small cases. Once you want to deal with complex >> problems, a script won't scale. Error han

Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

2011-10-10 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Sam Varshavchik wrote: ... > > So, naturally, Gnome must ape Windows, and imitate every stupid thing that > Windows does. > > Sigh. Exactly. And there is, unluckily, more stupid things which now appears in Linux. It seems as some developers meditate as "windows do it == users want it". Or there

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/11/2011 09:05 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith > wrote: >> The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 release name, and the >> results are in! Thank you to the Fedora community members who made >> name suggestions and participated in the voting. >

Re: No, I don't want to maximize my window

2011-10-10 Thread Julius Smith
You can turn off window tiling using gconf-editor (desktop->gnome->shell->windows) - jos On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Sam Varshavchik wrote: > ... >> >> So, naturally, Gnome must ape Windows, and imitate every stupid thing that >> Windows does. >> >> Sigh. > > Exac

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-10 Thread Chris Kloiber
Wow... That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. On 10/10/2011 09:05 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith > wrote: >> The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 release name, and the >> results are in! Thank you to the Fedora community members who made

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-10 Thread Thomas Dineen
"Beefy Miracle" Sounds like a new brand of dog food. Thomas Dineen On 10/10/2011 6:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/11/2011 09:05 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith >>wrote: >>> The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 release name, and the >

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-10 Thread Ranjan Maitra
I agree On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:40:01 -0500 Chris Kloiber wrote: > Wow... > > That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. > > > On 10/10/2011 09:05 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith > > wrote: > >> The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 rel

Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.

2011-10-10 Thread linux guy
I got the proprietary nvidia driver running using the instructions here. http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2011/fedora-15-nvidia-drivers-install-guide/ Of course it kept running the nouveau driver, even after I followed the instructions there. I had to resort to doing a "dracut -f /boot/init

Re: XFCE does not mount an audio CD

2011-10-10 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:. > us, it walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck so we > see no reason not to call it a duck. i disagree. it doesn't walk like a duck, or swim like a duck. you might be right

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 10/10/2011 06:58 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I agree > > On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:40:01 -0500 Chris Kloiber > wrote: > >> Wow... >> >> That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. >> Beefy Miracle >>> Actually, I have to believe this is a joke email if it is true, then all I c

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-10 Thread Chris Kloiber
On 10/10/2011 10:41 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 10/10/2011 06:58 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> I agree >> >> On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:40:01 -0500 Chris Kloiber >>wrote: >> >>> Wow... >>> >>> That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. >>> > Beefy Miracle > Actually, I have to believe

Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name

2011-10-10 Thread Michael Cronenworth
- Original message - > Actually, I have to believe this is a joke email  if it is true, > then all I can wonder is if Fedora naming is under the control of 13 > year olds just learning about wink, wink, nudge, nudge. > > It is so wrong ... its actually a bit replusive I voted a 0

Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 21:24 +0200, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Aren't all sata drives removable and hotpluggable? No. Both the drive and the host interface have to support it. You should be able to expect ESATA (external SATA) connected drives and hosts to support it, because external dri

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