Am Freitag, den 16.09.2011, 10:50 -0700 schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 09/16/2011 12:46 AM, Reinhard Sy wrote:
> > # BOX NET
> > https://www.box.net/dav /media/box.net davfs
> > rw,noauto,user,uid=500,gid=100 0 0
>
> Try this instead:
>
> https://www.box.net/dav /media/box.net davfs noauto,user,umask
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 08:52 +0200, Christoph A. wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I'd like to remove certain root certificates from my trusted list in
> Firefox but any changes I make are not permanent.
>
> Is there a way to have per-user trusted root lists i
Found a temporary reprieve. Unlike Windows, Linux does have fonts in konsle
windows. Was able to run the (harbour) recompiled xbase programs in the
konsole terminal with larger font size.
Need a way to make this konsole full-screen & limited to 80x25 size.
Strangely, I can do this on my OS X Lion
Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Do you have the driver installed?
>
> iwl3945-firmware.noarch
>
> Your e-mail seems to suggest that it was working earlier, but you did
> not indicate what, if anything, you changed?
>> WiFi on my Thinkpad T60 has stopped working recently.
>> I'm running Fedora-15/KDE.
>>
Timothy Murphy wrote:
> WiFi on my Thinkpad T60 has stopped working recently.
> I'm running Fedora-15/KDE.
>
> When I hover over the NetworkManager icon in the panel
> I read "Disconnected Wireless disabled in software"
I discovered the cause of the problem:
NetworkManager had written
"Wireles
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 12:55 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>
> > Do you have the driver installed?
> >
> > iwl3945-firmware.noarch
> >
> > Your e-mail seems to suggest that it was working earlier, but you did
> > not indicate what, if anything, you changed?
>
> >> WiFi on m
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> I believe that as part of your login/usage of Firefox & Thunderbird, a
> profile is created in ~/.mozilla (FF) and ~/.thunderbird (TB) and within
> each of your profiles is a file cert8.db file which is a personalized
> version of the certificate s
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 13:28 +0200, Christoph A. wrote:
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> > I believe that as part of your login/usage of Firefox & Thunderbird, a
> > profile is created in ~/.mozilla (FF) and ~/.thunderbird (TB) and within
> > each of your profiles is a file c
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:56:15PM -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> Sound familiar? (Now, where did I put that Coca Cola Classic I was
> drinking?)
I understand you do not like GNOME 3, talking about LXDE is great. But
just bashing.. I don't think that is what this mailing list is for.
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Regar
Craig White wrote:
>> This caused NM to modify or create files all over the place,
>> including deleting everything in /etc/resolv.conf .
>> This is a habit of NM that I don't understand -
>> I cannot think of any circumstances where an empty resolv.conf
>> would be better than one containing some
Hello List,
I had some trouble with a raid 5 setup, but I managed to get it
activated again. However, when I tried to activate the LVM-volumes on
the raid 5 system, LVM had trouble activating one of the volumes.
When I type in "lvchange -a y /dev/raid-5/data", it returns the
following errors:
On 15.09.2011, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
> LXDE can easily be set up to have essentially the same look-and-feel as
> Gnome 2. Also, it's lightweight design seems to have led to a good
> performance increase at least on my machine.
LXDE is great, but the file manager pcmanfm is not only annoyi
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On 09/17/2011 01:36 PM, Craig White wrote:
> I remember having to delete a certificate 2 times to actually physically
> remove them - the first time sets it to untrusted and the second one
> finally purges it but I think from a safe point of view, it
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:19:54 -0500 Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 15.09.2011, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
>
> > LXDE can easily be set up to have essentially the same look-and-feel as
> > Gnome 2. Also, it's lightweight design seems to have led to a good
> > performance increase at least on my machin
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 15:04 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> I understand you do not like GNOME 3, talking about LXDE is great. But
> just bashing.. I don't think that is what this mailing list is for.
Well, when those responsible for the debacle thumb their nose at the
users, all that's left is for u
Timothy Murphy eircom.net> writes:
>
> WiFi on my Thinkpad T60 has stopped working recently.
> I'm running Fedora-15/KDE.
>
> When I hover over the NetworkManager icon in the panel
> I read "Disconnected Wireless disabled in software"
>
> I'm wondering who gives this message,
> and what it m
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 15:15 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
>
> >> This caused NM to modify or create files all over the place,
> >> including deleting everything in /etc/resolv.conf .
> >> This is a habit of NM that I don't understand -
> >> I cannot think of any circumstances w
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 17:04 +0200, Christoph A. wrote:
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> On 09/17/2011 01:36 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > I remember having to delete a certificate 2 times to actually physically
> > remove them - the first time sets it to untrusted and the secon
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 01:45:08AM +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 15:04 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > I understand you do not like GNOME 3, talking about LXDE is great. But
> > just bashing.. I don't think that is what this mailing list is for.
>
> Well, when those responsible for the
Running "mandb -t" on Fedora 16 development fills a few screens with
errors, such as:
mandb: can't open /usr/share/man/ne_set_session_flag.3: No such file or
directory
mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man3/ne_get_session_flag.3.gz: bad symlink or
ROFF `.so' request
mandb: can't open /usr/share/man
On 17/09/11 14:04, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:56:15PM -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
>> Sound familiar? (Now, where did I put that Coca Cola Classic I was
>> drinking?)
>
> I understand you do not like GNOME 3, talking about LXDE is great. But
> just bashing.. I don't think
On 09/17/2011 11:05 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> 3: Keep quite, and change silently.
4: Change and make sure everybody knows exactly why you did it.
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Olav Vitters vitters.nl> writes:
> ...
> And as I've said, I'm happy that there is a discussion (or just
> downright "I hate it"). But please keep it respectful.
Do not make stuff up, OK ?
Nobdy said here that "they hate GNOME 3", did they ?
You are a known GNOME 3 fanboy here and there is noth
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On 09/17/2011 06:42 PM, Craig White wrote:
> that may have been the Macintosh that required 2 'deletes' to remove, I
> forget.
>
> Again though, probably better to leave them in place and marked
> 'untrusted' anyway just to ensure that they don't co
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Kevin J. Cummings
wrote:
> On 09/16/2011 05:20 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Kevin J. Cummings
>> wrote:
>>> The WiFi in my laptop gave up the ghost. Doesn't matter what card I put
>>> in the mini PCIe slot, the system doesn't think
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:16:52 -0500
Richard Shaw wrote:
> Let everyone know if you get the Artisan working well. I may make the
> switch to Epson as well.
I don't know about "well", but I can use it for what I need it
for. Lots of info here:
http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/dvd/epson/ep
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 06:22:18PM +, JB wrote:
> Olav Vitters vitters.nl> writes:
>
> > ...
> > And as I've said, I'm happy that there is a discussion (or just
> > downright "I hate it"). But please keep it respectful.
>
> Do not make stuff up, OK ?
> Nobdy said here that "they hate GNOME 3
[F15-64Bit/VirtualBox]-How To Enable Gnome 3 Desktop?
Hi,
I installed Fedora 15 64Bit into current VirtualBox.
Installed and updated fine, but Gnome 3 is going into "fallback" mode.
I've enabled 3D acceleration and gave 128MB VRAM to the virtual machine
but I don't know how to enable Gnome 3 des
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 07:05:54PM +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
> I don't think it is "just bashing",
> in the above "Classic",
> there was a comaprision made to another product,
> where consumer (End-user\Customer) experience\satisfaction killed a
> decision, made by some marketing\laboratory peopl
On 9/17/2011 2:50 PM, Jesse Palser wrote:
> [F15-64Bit/VirtualBox]-How To Enable Gnome 3 Desktop?
>
> Hi,
>
> I installed Fedora 15 64Bit into current VirtualBox.
> Installed and updated fine, but Gnome 3 is going into "fallback" mode.
>
> I've enabled 3D acceleration and gave 128MB VRAM to the vir
On 09/17/2011 11:48 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> I'm not a fanboy. I'm a GNOME sysadmin, release team member, bugmaster,
> etc.
To some people, the second implies the first. And, I must say, you're
the only person I'm aware of who's that involved with Gnome dev that's
actually willing to discuss G
> > 3: Keep quite, and change silently.
^^
quiet
Right?
>
> 4: Change and make sure everybody knows exactly why you did
> it.
> --
Just a matter of opinion, I would leave both options up to the user. Each
person is different and since the desktops are a matter of
On 09/17/2011 12:19 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Just a matter of opinion, I would leave both options up to the user. Each
> person is different and since the desktops are a matter of choice, one can
> use whichever one wants, this is the beauty of choice.
As do I. I make no secret of the fac
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 08:36, Craig White wrote:
> Yes, there is no easy way to distinguish trusted/non-trusted
> certificates without actually viewing them.
Another annoyance is that there is no built-in command or command-line
switch to restore root CAs.
It should be possible to restore CAs a
On 9/17/2011 3:32 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 08:36, Craig White wrote:
>> Yes, there is no easy way to distinguish trusted/non-trusted
>> certificates without actually viewing them.
>
> Another annoyance is that there is no built-in command or command-line
> switch to re
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:29:08 +0100, CW (Colin) wrote:
> [I'm not subscribed to users@lists.fedoraproject.org, so it's possible
> that the thread may get a bit confused if that list is moderated for
> non-subscribers.]
> > Examining the first two lines:
> >
> > $ zcat /usr/share/man/man3/ne_get_s
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 16:46, David wrote:
> Sure there is. They come with the Firefox and Thunderbird updates. They
> are named security updates.
>
> --
>
> David
I mean if you accidentally delete good certificates ie AOL, Comodo,
RSA, there is no way to easily reset certificates to the defaul
On 9/17/2011 3:59 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 16:46, David wrote:
>> Sure there is. They come with the Firefox and Thunderbird updates. They
>> are named security updates.
>>
>> --
>>
>> David
>
> I mean if you accidentally delete good certificates ie AOL, Comodo,
> RSA,
> I personally think that you GNOME 3 devs are incompetent (I know that there
> are some who are not happy about the state of it and perhaps will get an upper
> hand in due time - the sooner the better).
That seems uncalled for. Trying to build a new desktop is a large, non
trivial project. It doe
I've got two computers -- a Windows XP machine and a Fedora 15 box. I am
sending back the new KVM I bought since it doesn't work at all for my Linux
box (just sits there and doesn't detect that it's plugged in.) It also
doesn't pass along the unifying receiver for my new wireless keyboard and
m
On 09/17/2011 01:28 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> I personally think that you GNOME 3 devs are incompetent (I know that there
>> > are some who are not happy about the state of it and perhaps will get an
>> > upper
>> > hand in due time - the sooner the better).
> That seems uncalled for. Trying to bui
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:38:15 -0400
John Aldrich wrote:
> Anyone got a KVM they can recommend? Bonus if it'll share the speakers with
> multiple computers. :D
I had one marketed (but not made by) iogear. It switched DVI, USB, speakers
and microphones, and was absolutely the only reliable KVM I ev
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:38 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
> I've got two computers -- a Windows XP machine and a Fedora 15 box. I am
> sending back the new KVM I bought since it doesn't work at all for my Linux
> box (just sits there and doesn't detect that it's plugged in.) It also
> doesn't pass alon
Alan Cox lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
>
> > I personally think that you GNOME 3 devs are incompetent (I know that there
> > are some who are not happy about the state of it and perhaps will get
> > an upper hand in due time - the sooner the better).
>
> That seems uncalled for. Trying to build
Craig White wrote:
>> I have found many times that I am not connected to the internet on my
>> laptop BECAUSE NM has deleted the entries in /etc/resolv.conf ,
>> and that when I install the proper entries
>> (I keep them in /etc/resolv.conf.opendns for this purpose)
>> I am immediately connected.
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:08:32 + (UTC)
JB wrote:
> People who come up with such idea and design and write a DE like GNOME 3 for
> users across the entire market market spectrum deserve to be put in
> a straitjacket and kept on Prozac ad infinitum.
And the new Windows 8 hype is also talking abo
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes:
>
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:08:32 + (UTC)
> JB wrote:
>
> > People who come up with such idea and design and write a DE like GNOME 3
> > for
> > users across the entire market market spectrum deserve to be put in
> > a straitjacket and kept on Prozac ad infin
Timothy Murphy eircom.net> writes:
> ...
> >> Recently, a new nightmare has occurred;
> >> a window comes up called Secret, or something like that,
> >> with a space for a password, in which it is impossible to write.
> >> Admittedly closing the window does not seem to leave matters
> >> any wor
On 09/17/2011 01:28 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> I personally think that you GNOME 3 devs are incompetent (I know that there
>> are some who are not happy about the state of it and perhaps will get an
>> upper
>> hand in due time - the sooner the better).
> That seems uncalled for. Trying to build a new
On 09/17/2011 02:30 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> OK my dongle arrived in the post today - so this evening I thought I
> would try it out - after plugging it in, and firing up f16 it works
> out of the box - hooray! I don't have an earlier Fedora for that
> laptop to test f14 with the same wifi dongle.
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 16:59 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 16:46, David wrote:
> > Sure there is. They come with the Firefox and Thunderbird updates. They
> > are named security updates.
> >
> > --
> >
> > David
>
> I mean if you accidentally delete good certificates ie
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 16:05 -0400, David wrote:
> On 9/17/2011 3:59 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 16:46, David wrote:
> >> Sure there is. They come with the Firefox and Thunderbird updates. They
> >> are named security updates.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> David
> >
> > I mean
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes:
> ...
> How about the way that you can only trigger a specific and needed action
> (I don't remember which, as I don't use Gnome 3.) by going to the top
> left corner of the screen and this can only be changed by installing a
> third-party extension that lets you use
On 09/17/2011 03:12 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> Has anyone taken a poll from the Fedora Community
> as to what new directions Gnome-X should be taking
> BEFORE making such a paradigm shift?
Why just the Fedora Community? Why not a poll of people using Gnome, no
matter what distro? Yes, Fedor
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 23:09 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
>
> >> I have found many times that I am not connected to the internet on my
> >> laptop BECAUSE NM has deleted the entries in /etc/resolv.conf ,
> >> and that when I install the proper entries
> >> (I keep them in /etc/
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 16:56 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:38 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
> > I've got two computers -- a Windows XP machine and a Fedora 15 box. I am
> > sending back the new KVM I bought since it doesn't work at all for my Linux
> > box (just sits there and do
On 09/17/2011 03:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 09/17/2011 03:12 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>> Has anyone taken a poll from the Fedora Community
>> as to what new directions Gnome-X should be taking
>> BEFORE making such a paradigm shift?
> Why just the Fedora Community? Why not a poll of people us
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Craig White wrote:
>
> That said it has worked flawlessly for all this time. The only problem
> is when I switch back to Linux, I do have to be careful as the mouse is
> jumpy until 2 seconds after the first click so I have learned not to
> move it but just click
On 9/17/2011 6:21 PM, Craig White wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 16:05 -0400, David wrote:
>> On 9/17/2011 3:59 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 16:46, David wrote:
Sure there is. They come with the Firefox and Thunderbird updates. They
are named security updates.
>
I have had good experience with Iogear. I used the two port when I only
had one windoz and on Linux. Then I move to their 4 port for one windoz
and 2 Linux. I currently runnit the miniveiw ultra 8 port on 3 windoz
and 5 Linux platforms and it is performing well. I had tried Belkin, but
found that i
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 18:55 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Craig White wrote:
>
> >
> > That said it has worked flawlessly for all this time. The only problem
> > is when I switch back to Linux, I do have to be careful as the mouse is
> > jumpy until 2 seconds after
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 18:58 -0400, David wrote:
> On 9/17/2011 6:21 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 16:05 -0400, David wrote:
> >> On 9/17/2011 3:59 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 16:46, David wrote:
> Sure there is. They come with the Firefox and Th
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 17:32 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:08:32 + (UTC)
> JB wrote:
>
> > People who come up with such idea and design and write a DE like GNOME 3
> > for
> > users across the entire market market spectrum deserve to be put in
> > a straitjacket and kept
Craig White wrote:
> right click on this [NM] icon to get a list of options.
I'm right clicking on the icon now.
It lists 3 items:
Network Management Settings
Panel Options
Remove this Network Management
> One of them is likely
> to offer to scan for available wireless networks. It also mi
Glad you found out the issue.
Anyway, I must add Fedora 15's Gnome-Shell's NM interface is buggy, use the
old one when things are going bad,
http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-users/msg403101.html . That
interface clearly has the option of enabling and disabling Wireless.
And, if anything
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 15:12 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> On 09/17/2011 01:28 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
> >> I personally think that you GNOME 3 devs are incompetent (I know that there
> >> are some who are not happy about the state of it and perhaps will get an
> >> upper
> >> hand in due time - th
On 9/17/2011 8:06 PM, Craig White wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 18:58 -0400, David wrote:
>> On 9/17/2011 6:21 PM, Craig White wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 16:05 -0400, David wrote:
On 9/17/2011 3:59 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 16:46, David wrote:
>> Sure
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 02:17 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
>
> > right click on this [NM] icon to get a list of options.
>
> I'm right clicking on the icon now.
> It lists 3 items:
> Network Management Settings
> Panel Options
> Remove this Network Management
My netb
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 16:38 -0400, John Aldrich wrote:
> I've got two computers -- a Windows XP machine and a Fedora 15 box. I am
> sending back the new KVM I bought since it doesn't work at all for my Linux
> box (just sits there and doesn't detect that it's plugged in.) It also
> doesn't pass
On 09/17/2011 05:21 PM, Craig White wrote:
> First of all - a taking a poll is fine but it has little to do with a
> project like GNOME since it is the developers of GNOME who get to decide
> what it does and how it does it.
You're right, as far as you go, but that's not all there is to it.
Unles
On Sat September 17 2011, Robert M. Witkop wrote:
> I have had good experience with Iogear. I used the two port when I only
> had one windoz and on Linux. Then I move to their 4 port for one windoz
> and 2 Linux. I currently runnit the miniveiw ultra 8 port on 3 windoz
> and 5 Linux platforms and i
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 17:56 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 09/17/2011 05:21 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > First of all - a taking a poll is fine but it has little to do with a
> > project like GNOME since it is the developers of GNOME who get to decide
> > what it does and how it does it.
>
> You're rig
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 20:29 -0400, David wrote:
> On 9/17/2011 8:06 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > As for Macintosh, Windows, 'generic Linux' (whatever that means to you
> > it means nothing to me), I don't know but I can verify the
> > Windows/Macintosh FF behavior when I get time. Did you actually t
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 09:05:26PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote:
> Any suggestions for a USB KVM that *works*???
I've had good luck with a Raritan SwitchMan USB COMBO 4-port unit. Works
between Windows, Linux, and a whole mort of other systems I've had to work
on, since I use ports 3 & 4 as "guest"
On 09/17/2011 06:03 PM, Craig White wrote:
> Is this a habit of yours? (Telling people what they 'need' to do)
Are you, by any chance, a Gnome dev? If not, is it your habit to get
offended in other people's name? You certainly sound like you're
offended but give no reasons other than you don't
On 09/17/2011 03:39 PM, JB wrote:
> There is a similar case with systemd project.
> There is a meister there as well who tells people "If you disagree with
> Lennart then you must hate handicapped people!".
> For reference:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ERAXJj142o
>
> This is their idea of an int
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 18:28 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 09/17/2011 06:03 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > Is this a habit of yours? (Telling people what they 'need' to do)
>
> Are you, by any chance, a Gnome dev? If not, is it your habit to get
> offended in other people's name? You certainly sound l
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 20:29 -0400, David wrote:
> On 9/17/2011 8:06 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 18:58 -0400, David wrote:
> >> On 9/17/2011 6:21 PM, Craig White wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 16:05 -0400, David wrote:
> On 9/17/2011 3:59 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> >>
I hope it's okay to ask on Fedora Users since Fedora hosts EPEL...
I am trying to use a germin lvc-18 as an ntpd time source, via the PPS /
NMEA reference drivers, and the pps_core module from the LinuxPPS project.
On my SL6 x86_64 I can't "ldattach PPS /dev/ttyS0". I get a failure, and
strace
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