Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-16 Thread Roelof 'Ben' Kusters
Hi There, This discussion will be an endless one - as there will always be people who don't like it; and people who do. Change always hurts, because you need to learn computing anew. And it's difficult for many to be humble enough to say you don't know how to do it - if you already know how to do

Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-16 Thread g
On 07/16/2011 05:40 AM, Jatin K wrote: > On Saturday 16 July 2011 10:18 AM, g wrote: >> On 07/16/2011 04:25 AM, Jatin K wrote: >> <> >> >>> Sorry, that was my mistake :-( >> >> that happens. but does make things difficult to help. >> >>> actually I got the solution what was needed, from this list.

Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-16 Thread Jatin K
On Saturday 16 July 2011 02:22 PM, g wrote: > On 07/16/2011 05:40 AM, Jatin K wrote: >> On Saturday 16 July 2011 10:18 AM, g wrote: >>> On 07/16/2011 04:25 AM, Jatin K wrote: >>> <> >>> Sorry, that was my mistake :-( >>> that happens. but does make things difficult to help. >>> actually

Re: [SOVLED by '!' ]how to specify IP not equal to in iptables rules ????

2011-07-16 Thread g
On 07/16/2011 09:11 AM, Jatin K wrote: > On Saturday 16 July 2011 02:22 PM, g wrote: >> On 07/16/2011 05:40 AM, Jatin K wrote: >>> On Saturday 16 July 2011 10:18 AM, g wrote: On 07/16/2011 04:25 AM, Jatin K wrote: <> > Sorry, that was my mistake :-( that happens. but does m

Accessing MS Exchange 5.5 mailbox from Fedora 15

2011-07-16 Thread Kevin Wilson
Hello, Is there a way to access MS Exchange 5.5 mail server from Fedora 15? I saw that for previous versions of Evolution there was a plugin called evolution-brutus plugin - for exchange 5.5 server but from what I found, this plugin is not available for fedora 15. I also tried with thunderbird,

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-16 Thread JB
Roelof 'Ben' Kusters bentrein.com> writes: > ... > > One thing is sure: Your new user-base will not be your current (old) > > user-base. > ... > I adore Gnome3. It is where > computing is going, like it or not. What we now know as desktops will in > the not so very distant future be used only

recent 64-bit kernel vs. wireless

2011-07-16 Thread Elliott Chapin
With kernel-2.6.38.8-35.fc15.x86_64 my wireless (broadcom) is not activated. I'll provide dmsg or other data upon request. TIA, E. -- http://clients.teksavvy.com/~echapin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproje

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-16 Thread Roelof 'Ben' Kusters
While agreeing with your rant in many ways, I would like to strike a slightly different note; it is the destruction of the status quo of western society. Absolutely. But that is nothing but change. Change always hurts - sometimes many, sometimes a few. But change is also always necessary; w

Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates

2011-07-16 Thread James Bridge
I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? Fedora 15 seems not to install yum-updatesd but it doesn't sound to be worth putting it in anyway. James On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 17:46 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > On 07/15/2011 04:49 PM, James Bridge wrote: > > Using Fedora 15 with Gnome 3

Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates

2011-07-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/16/2011 06:14 PM, James Bridge wrote: > I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? > Works just fine here. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guideli

syslog daemon facilty

2011-07-16 Thread Maurizio Marini
One of the first thing u note coming from debian, is that tailing for daemon doesn't tail anything :) I wonder why redhat never used /var/log/daemon.log ad syslog daemon facility; this is not an issue of course, i add it, this is only an historical question :) m. -- users mailing list users@list

Re: Can't send email

2011-07-16 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 17:34 -0400, Vinny wrote: > From: james tate > > > On 07/13/2011 07:35 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping > > > at asking for password because can't authenticate. > > > The set up is identical

Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates

2011-07-16 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 18:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 07/16/2011 06:14 PM, James Bridge wrote: > > I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? > > > > Works just fine here. > > Rahul Well I join those for whom it does nor work. I was told earlier that the automatic update

Re: Can't send email

2011-07-16 Thread james tate
On 07/15/2011 05:34 PM, Vinny wrote: > From: james tate > On 07/13/2011 07:35 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping >>> at asking for password because can't authenticate. >>> The set up is identical to my laptop which work OK

Re: Can't send email

2011-07-16 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 4:11 PM, james tate wrote: > one of two things, your password is not correct or your account settings > is off. If you know your account settings compare with what you have in > kmail. The OP didn't specify whether he was using Gnome or KDE. KMail uses Kwallet I think, whe

Re: Can't send email

2011-07-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.07.2011 23:34, schrieb Vinny: > From: james tate >> > On 07/13/2011 07:35 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I am having problem sending email, receiving is OK but sending keeping >>> at asking for password because can't authenticate. >>> The set up is identical to my laptop which w

Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE

2011-07-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.07.2011 16:57, schrieb Daniele Guerrieri: >> ok :-) >> >>> From wikipedia (probably also in kernel/Documentation but now i'm on >>> a win machine) i've read: >> >> have you a link? >> i do not find this on wikipedia >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sysrq > > here the link: http://en.wikiped

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread g
On 07/16/2011 01:19 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: <> > Guys, he wants to know where the IP address is set, not what > determines what interface is eth1. another good guess. and nothing wrong with it either. but, before any answers are presented, clarification should be made. so, to op, Timoth

Re: missing alerts from Osmo in upgrade to F15: LXDE spin

2011-07-16 Thread nomnex
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:58:58 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > have been using the LXDE spin since Fedora 12. I use Osmo and find it > pretty adequate for my needs. However, up til Fedora 14, the osmo > task manager (or whatever it is called) would pop up an alert when > the time to do a particular ta

Re: Software update has bugs

2011-07-16 Thread nomnex
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:05:35 -0700 John Wendel wrote: > Same bad experience here. All these apps are just a layer of crap > spread over yum. Save yourself some pain and use yum directly. I like the Yum extender project. It is not a layer of crap. https://fedorahosted.org/yumex/ -- nomnex --

Re: Can't send email

2011-07-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 16:32 +0200, suvayu ali wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 4:11 PM, james tate wrote: > > one of two things, your password is not correct or your account settings > > is off. If you know your account settings compare with what you have in > > kmail. > > The OP didn't specify w

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/16/2011 10:07 AM, g wrote: > On 07/16/2011 01:19 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > <> > >> Guys, he wants to know where the IP address is set, not what >> determines what interface is eth1. > > another good guess. and nothing wrong with it eithe

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread g
On 07/16/2011 04:21 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: <> > If you had read his posts, you would know it was not a guess on my part. now you really are guessing. now, guess where. ;) -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out p

Re: Accessing MS Exchange 5.5 mailbox from Fedora 15

2011-07-16 Thread Steven Stern
On 07/16/2011 05:56 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hello, > Is there a way to access MS Exchange 5.5 mail server from Fedora 15? > > I saw that for previous versions of Evolution there was a plugin called > evolution-brutus plugin - for exchange 5.5 server > but from what I found, this plugin is not a

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
g wrote: > so, to op, Timothy Murphy, > > do you wish to know; > > 1- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an > ip address? I assume that this is set in ifcfg-ethX . > 2- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an > ethx position?

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-16 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 16 July 2011 09:34:59 Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: > What we now know as desktops will in > the not so very distant future be used only for servers and other large > storage devices. Computing will be entirely mobile, and envision a little > device on your collar (possibly in combination

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/16/2011 11:32 AM, g wrote: > On 07/16/2011 04:21 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > <> > >> If you had read his posts, you would know it was not a guess on my part. > > now you really are guessing. > > now, guess where. ;) > LOL - -- No boom

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Digimer wrote: > On 07/15/2011 03:00 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> What exactly sets up the correspondence between interfaces and LANs, >> eg (in my case) eth1 <-> 192.168.2.0 ? >> >> I don't see any file in /etc/sysconfig , say, >> where this is specified. > > It's mapped using 'HWADDR' in the >

Re: syslog daemon facilty

2011-07-16 Thread Santiago Enrique Lemus Martínez
use tail /var/log/messages 2011/7/16 Maurizio Marini > One of the first thing u note coming from debian, is that tailing for > daemon doesn't tail anything :) > I wonder why redhat never used /var/log/daemon.log ad syslog daemon > facility; this is not an issue of course, i add it, this is only

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread Digimer
On 07/16/2011 02:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > g wrote: > >> so, to op, Timothy Murphy, >> >> do you wish to know; >> >> 1- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an >> ip address? > > I assume that this is set in ifcfg-ethX . You are right. Either by 'IPADDR=...'

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread Digimer
On 07/16/2011 02:24 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Digimer wrote: > >> On 07/15/2011 03:00 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> What exactly sets up the correspondence between interfaces and LANs, >>> eg (in my case) eth1 <-> 192.168.2.0 ? >>> >>> I don't see any file in /etc/sysconfig , say, >>> where this

RE: How do I point a mail client at Microsoft outlook?

2011-07-16 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011, Damian Kohlfeld wrote: > Use the following fetchmail configuration as a template. Replace all > USERNAME with your unix user account name, all PASSWORD with the password > for that IMAP account, all IMAPUSER with the IMAP username, all MAILHOST > with the IMAP serverhostname a

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-16 Thread JB
Roelof 'Ben' Kusters bentrein.com> writes: > > Change is gonna happen. And it's gonna destroy the status quo. > If you ask me, it's very urgent that that happens, because - next to a > whole new - perhaps Matrix like - approach to social interaction, it will > make room for other technolog

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 07/16/2011 01:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > My problem basically is the error message > > alfred dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1 (no IPv4 addresses). > alfred dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on eth1. If this is not what > alfred dhcpd:you want, please

no sound on cf15 but yes system sound

2011-07-16 Thread Zoran Spasojevic
I just installed FC15 with the latest updates. I am using M-Audio audiofile 2494. I get the system notifications sound but none of the audio or video applications produces sound. I tried using alsamixe and considered various suggestions I read on these lists but still don't have sound.. When I t

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.07.2011 20:24, schrieb Timothy Murphy: >> It's mapped using 'HWADDR' in the >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX and/or in >> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. > > These establish a correspondence between the interfaces > and the MAC addresses of the NICs yes, /etc/udev/r

Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates

2011-07-16 Thread James Bridge
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 08:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 18:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 07/16/2011 06:14 PM, James Bridge wrote: > > > I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? > > > > > > > Works just fine here. > > > > Rahul > > Well I join th

Re: Software update has bugs

2011-07-16 Thread John Wendel
On 07/16/2011 08:25 AM, nomnex wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:05:35 -0700 > John Wendel wrote: > >> Same bad experience here. All these apps are just a layer of crap >> spread over yum. Save yourself some pain and use yum directly. > I like the Yum extender project. It is not a layer of crap. >

Application names -

2011-07-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
I checked to make certain the HP scanner would work with F-15. It works as expected once xsane is installed. I looked in the menu and couldn't find xsane, not that it matters, I have always started it from the command line out of habit. It took me a few seco

Re: Application names -

2011-07-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/16/2011 04:11 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I would prefer to change such listings to the true > application names that I recognize, in this case xsane rather > than Scanner Tool. Is there a file I can fix that in? You didn't specify, but I'll presume you're using Gnome. The me

Question about the boost package in Fedora

2011-07-16 Thread suvayu ali
Hi, I see that a few of the examples are missing from the boost package available in the official Fedora repositories. Do I need to install any package to get these? e.g. I could not find the first.cpp example from program_options. The docs say they should be under libs/program_options/example. A

Re: Fedora 15 won't do automatic updates

2011-07-16 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 07/16/2011 05:39 PM, James Bridge wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 08:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 18:18 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 07/16/2011 06:14 PM, James Bridge wrote: I'm glad it's not just me... Has _anyone_ got it working? >>> >>> Works just fi

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-16 Thread James McKenzie
On 7/15/11 6:31 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 14:18 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > >>> I agree with you that Gnome2 is dead but someone has to explain why >> a >>> feature like holding the ALT key is necessary to power off in the >> User >>> Menu. It seems to me there was room

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-16 Thread James McKenzie
On 7/15/11 4:55 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > I for myself have been a big Gnome fan over a lot of years, and have > been using it both at home and at work. I also have been a big LXDE > and xmonad fan, which runs on all of my laptops. Not a big thing for > me, I'll drop F15, and when F16 comes out,

Re: Application names -

2011-07-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 16/07/11 19:25, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 07/16/2011 04:11 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> I would prefer to change such listings to the true >> application names that I recognize, in this case xsane rather >> than Scanner Tool. Is there a file I can fix that in? > You didn't specify, b

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-16 Thread James McKenzie
On 7/16/11 1:25 PM, JB wrote: > Roelof 'Ben' Kusters bentrein.com> writes: > >> Change is gonna happen. And it's gonna destroy the status quo. >> If you ask me, it's very urgent that that happens, because - next to a >> whole new - perhaps Matrix like - approach to social interaction, it will >>

Re: recent 64-bit kernel vs. wireless

2011-07-16 Thread T. C. Hollingsworth
Elliott Chapin wrote: > With kernel-2.6.38.8-35.fc15.x86_64 my wireless (broadcom) is not > activated. I'll provide dmsg or other data upon request. > > TIA, > E. Are you using the wl driver from RPMFusion or did you use b43-fwcutter? If it's the former, respond with the output of: rpm -q kmod-

Re: Gnome 3 ~ Windows 8?

2011-07-16 Thread Roelof 'Ben' Kusters
> You mean something like the Sixth Sense technology? And there I thought I was thought of as living in LaLaLand and imagining impossible things, and the destruction of western society. Turns out, someone's already built it. :D Whenever trying to set up a computer (device), I'm convinced that

Re: Accessing MS Exchange 5.5 mailbox from Fedora 15

2011-07-16 Thread Kevin Wilson
Hi, Thanks, can you/someone elaborate a bit ? what should I do to get mail with IMAP? rgs, kevin On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 07/16/2011 05:56 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote: >> Hello, >>  Is there a way to access MS Exchange 5.5 mail server from Fedora 15? >> >> I saw that f

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread g
On 07/16/2011 06:23 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > On 07/16/2011 11:32 AM, g wrote: >> On 07/16/2011 04:21 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> <> > >>> If you had read his posts, you would know it was not a guess on my part. >> >> now you really are guessing. > >> now, guess where. ;) > > LOL gla

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread g
On 07/16/2011 06:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > g wrote: > >> so, to op, Timothy Murphy, >> >> do you wish to know; >> >> 1- what determines mapping of nic [network interface card/chipset] to an >> ip address? > > I assume that this is set in ifcfg-ethX . http://tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-O

Re: An elementary question on LANs

2011-07-16 Thread g
On 07/16/2011 07:03 PM, Digimer wrote: <> > I think g was talking about some corolation between the network card's > physical location on the motherboard and the 'ethX' name. correct. > Until recently, there was no reliable way to determine this. In the most > recent Fedora 15, an attempt is mad

Re: syslog daemon facilty

2011-07-16 Thread Maurizio Marini
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 12:27:21 -0600 Santiago Enrique Lemus Martínez wrote: > use > tail /var/log/messages yes, I konw, I can let daemon facilty logging on messages or add it tolog on daemon.log; my question is: why to not have daemon syslogging on a different file like on debian distro families?