Re: Unable to fix label of /run: read-only file system.

2011/6/12 James McKenzie : > You can't.  The filesystem is marked as RO.  Is this a CD/DVD media?  If > it is NOT, you have to mount the media as Read-Write so that the label > can be updated. > > James. No, this started after I upgraded from f14 to f15. My grub entry says: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-

Re: Control + Alt + Backspace doesn't work :(

On 06/12/2011 12:54 AM, Karol Babioch wrote: > However there is one specific thing that doesn't seem to work, and I > can't figure out why. This is the Ctrl + Alt + Backspace shortcut in > order to restart the X server. This file could be related: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-system-setup-keyboard.con

Re: Control + Alt + Backspace doesn't work :(

Hi, Am 12.06.2011 11:42, schrieb Roberto Ragusa: > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-system-setup-keyboard.conf this file contains the following: Option "XkbOptions""terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp," Which hadn'T worked, for whatever reason. However I now realized that the shortcut wasn't enabled in

Re: Upgraded F14 -> F15, now how do I use this?

On 06/11/2011 07:44 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> Someone who asks what to do without having read the relevant postings >> needs do some homework, that's all. Fedora is a bleeding-edge system and >> no-one can expect to handle a version transition without at least >> k

gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

Ok, no matter what I do I cannot change my desktop wallpaper and get it to stay put. After the switch and once I start multitasking it switches back to the default blue "birds in a tree" background. What the heck am I doing wrong this time? GW -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: OT: allow ordinary user to read /var/log/audit/audit.log

> Surely I can. I just thought there should be the other way. Say, thru > sudo. Well, it seems that changing file attributes is the only way > here. Add this to the Cmnd_alias: less /var/log/audit/audit.log -- Kind regards, André -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: OT: allow ordinary user to read /var/log/audit/audit.log

I think you can use acl to add this user to the attribute of the file of audit.log 2011/6/12 Andre Speelmans > > Surely I can. I just thought there should be the other way. Say, thru > > sudo. Well, it seems that changing file attributes is the only way > > here. > > Add this to the Cmnd_alias:

Re: OT: allow ordinary user to read /var/log/audit/audit.log

On 6/11/11 11:37 PM, Hiisi wrote: > On 12 June 2011 04:14, James McKenzie wrote: >> On 6/9/11 10:58 AM, Hiisi wrote: > <--SNIP--> >>> Any other suggestions? >> You could always make the file world-read. That means EVERYONE can read >> the file. You just don't have to tell them >> > Surely I

screensaver password fails first time, every time!

Just wondering if anyone here has seen this behavior... I lock my screen when I get up (Fedora 15 running XFCE and Xscreensaver) and when I come back 99.999% of the time, I have to try twice to unlock the console. I *know* I'm entering the password correctly, but it still comes up as "authentic

Re: screensaver password fails first time, every time!

On 06/12/2011 10:35 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > Just wondering if anyone here has seen this behavior... I lock my screen > when I get up (Fedora 15 running XFCE and Xscreensaver) and when I come > back 99.999% of the time, I have to try twice to unlock the console. I > *know* I'm entering the pass

Re: Unable to fix label of /run: read-only file system.

On 6/12/11 2:12 AM, Joshua C. wrote: > 2011/6/12 James McKenzie: > >> You can't. The filesystem is marked as RO. Is this a CD/DVD media? If >> it is NOT, you have to mount the media as Read-Write so that the label >> can be updated. >> >> James. > No, this started after I upgraded from f14 to f1

Default browser problem -

F-15 and Firefox simply do not work as I want them to so I installed Google Chrome to try it. However when I click on a link in an e-mail message in Thunderbird it keeps starting Firefox instead of the default browser, Chrome. What am I missing, I'

Re: Default browser problem -

On 6/12/11 7:51 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > F-15 and Firefox simply do not work as I want them to so I > installed Google Chrome to try it. > > However when I click on a link in an e-mail message in > Thunderbird it keeps starting Firefox instead of the default >

Re: screensaver password fails first time, every time!

On Sun June 12 2011, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Well, I've seen this behavior on my system...but it is probably for a > different reason. > > I've got an HP wireless USB mouse/keyboard. When I leave it alone for > an extended period the first typed character goes "missing". Realized > this when the

Re: Default browser problem -

Check recent archives for this list. I have been reporting the same problem in reverse--that is, my system invokes Chrome when FF is set to default browser. Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > >F-15 and Firefox simply do not work as I want them to so I

Re: git patch comments

James McKenzie wrote: > On 6/8/11 2:52 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> Turns into: >> Git comment - bullet 1 - bullet 2 >> > This is how git formats the text when it sends the bug in. I've > done this myself and was surprised when formatting I applied > disappeared. If you want the latter, you'

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:46:29 -0400, Gary Waters wrote: > Ok, no matter what I do I cannot change my desktop wallpaper and get it > to stay put. After the switch and once I start multitasking it switches > back to the default blue "birds in a tree" background. What the heck am > I doing wrong this

Cannot recompile grub - checking whether the C compiler works... no

As the subject says I cannot recompile grub. Everytime I get "checking whether the C compiler works... no". I explicitely installed all packages from http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/grub/0.97/74.fc15/data/logs/x86_64/root.log and have attached those in the packages.log file. The only th

Re: Unable to fix label of /run: read-only file system.

2011/6/12 James McKenzie : > The kernel is first mounted read only so that it can be validated as not > corrupt and then remounted as read-write if it passed the check.  I > would not change this unless you are certain that the kernel will never > become corrupted.  This does not happen with the L

Re: Default browser problem -

On 12/06/11 11:11, James McKenzie wrote: > On 6/12/11 7:51 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> F-15 and Firefox simply do not work as I want them to so I >> installed Google Chrome to try it. >> >> However when I click on a link in an e-mail message in >> Thunderbird i

Re: Default browser problem -

On 06/12/2011 11:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 12/06/11 11:11, James McKenzie wrote: >> On 6/12/11 7:51 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >>>F-15 and Firefox simply do not work as I want them to so I >>>installed Google Chrome to try it. >>> >>>However when I click on a li

Re: Default browser problem -

On 6/12/11 9:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 12/06/11 11:11, James McKenzie wrote: >> On 6/12/11 7:51 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >>>F-15 and Firefox simply do not work as I want them to so I >>>installed Google Chrome to try it. >>> >>>However when I click on a link i

Re: Default browser problem

In the process of messing with Thunderbird I wiped out all my mail and had to start this thread anew. The only way I was able to get Thunderbird to treat Chrome as the default browser was to yum remove Firefox. Still the initial problem remains. I may be ab

Re: screensaver password fails first time, every time!

On 06/12/2011 10:21 AM, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sun June 12 2011, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> Well, I've seen this behavior on my system...but it is probably for a >> different reason. >> >> I've got an HP wireless USB mouse/keyboard. When I leave it alone for >> an extended period the first typed ch

systemd problem with some services

I preupgraded from F14 to F15 a few weeks ago. It's mostly running fine now, but there are some services that aren't working properly with systemd. Two examples are ddclient (which updates my IP address with dyndns) and pyTivo (a server for Tivo). They don't start on boot. Here's what I get: %

Re: systemd problem with some services

> I'm new to systemd, obviously, and don't know what the > problem is. As are we all :-). I had problems getting stunnel to start. I think the key here is networking. It sure seems like any services that need to talk right away on the network (versus merely listening) don't work during the boot.

Re: systemd problem with some services

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> I'm new to systemd, obviously, and don't know what the >> problem is. > > As are we all :-). I had problems getting stunnel to start. > I think the key here is networking. It sure seems like any > services that need to talk right away on the n

Updating Adobe Air

Hi, I use the Adobe Air binaries to support Pandora on my fedora14 box. Adobe Air is displaying a message that updates are available, but every time I try to update it, it prompts me for the root password, then prints a message that says "Adobe AIR could not be installed. Install either Gnome Keyri

Autofs not working?

Another problem I've noticed since upgrading to F15 is that autofs isn't working correctly. I have these lines in /etc/auto.misc: disk3 -fstype=ext4:/dev/disk/by-uuid/71bdf81d[...] #disk4 -fstype=ext4:/dev/disk/by-uuid/37f607ea[...] disk4 -fstype=ext4:/dev

Re: Autofs not working?

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: > Another problem I've noticed since upgrading to F15 is that autofs > isn't working correctly.  I have these lines in /etc/auto.misc: > > disk3           -fstype=ext4    :/dev/disk/by-uuid/71bdf81d[...] > #disk4          -fstype=ext4    :/de

Re: Autofs not working?

On 12/06/11 22:40, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: >> Another problem I've noticed since upgrading to F15 is that autofs >> isn't working correctly. I have these lines in /etc/auto.misc: >> >> disk3 -fstype=ext4:/dev/disk/by-uuid/71bd

Re: screensaver password fails first time, every time! (Solved???)

On Sun June 12 2011, Robert Nichols wrote: > > > > Hmm... interesting. I didn't think of that... I *do* have a wireless > > keyboard and mouse (separate receivers) Maybe I ought to high > > "numlock" or something first to "wake up" the keyboard... thanks! > > Just tap a shift key first. Anything

Re: Autofs not working?

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 12/06/11 22:40, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Reid Rivenburgh  wrote: >>> Another problem I've noticed since upgrading to F15 is that autofs >>> isn't working correctly.  I have these lines in /etc/auto.misc: >>

Adieu, Fedora

It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora as my primary OS, but it's time to move on. My current and future needs are for a support life measured in years, not months. And CentOS and Scientific Linux didn't fulfill my other requirements. Neither did the Rolling Release distros: At

Re: Updating Adobe Air

> I use the Adobe Air binaries to support Pandora on my fedora14 box. > Adobe Air is displaying a message that updates are available, but > every time I try to update it, it prompts me for the root password, > then prints a message that says "Adobe AIR could not be installed. > Install either Gnom

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/13/11, Patrick Bartek wrote: [...] > Considered XFCE and LXDE instead, but > decided the best option was to abandon the Desktop GUI environment > all-together in favor of a well-featured window manager, simple launch bar > for most used apps, floating menus for the others, and a terminal or

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/12/2011 06:08 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora as my primary OS, but > it's time to move on. My current and future needs are for a support life > measured in years, not months. And CentOS and Scientific Linux didn't > fulfill my other requi

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

On 06/12/2011 11:53 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:46:29 -0400, Gary Waters wrote: > >> Ok, no matter what I do I cannot change my desktop wallpaper and get it >> to stay put. After the switch and once I start multitasking it switches >> back to the default blue "birds in a tree"

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/13/2011 06:08 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > I'll still keep an eye on Fedora for old time's sake. And 12 will stay on > the system as a back up. So, it's not exactly farewell, just . . . > > Auf Wiedersehen, I've recently switched from briefs to boxers. Somehow I don't think that is worth

Re: Default browser problem -

Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 06/12/2011 11:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> On 12/06/11 11:11, James McKenzie wrote: >>> On 6/12/11 7:51 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: F-15 and Firefox simply do not work as I want them to so I inst

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 19:08, Patrick Bartek wrote: > It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora as my primary OS, but > it's time to move on. This reminds me of OS/2 users on oS/2 maling list who often decided that not only they had to change OS, they had to write a long tirade tell

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 20:14, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I've recently switched from briefs to boxers.  Somehow I don't think > that is worthy of an announcement either.   :-) :-) Heh what a great alternative way to ay what I replied in another post. "Good riddance, good luck, but most important: who

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 4:36 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 19:08, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora as my primary OS, but >> it's time to move on. > This reminds me of OS/2 users on oS/2 maling list who often decided > that not only they had

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 20:14, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> I've recently switched from briefs to boxers.  Somehow I don't think >> that is worthy of an announcement either.   :-) :-) > > Heh what a great alternative way to ay what I replied in

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 3:36 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > On 6/13/11, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > [...] > >> Considered XFCE and LXDE instead, but >> decided the best option was to abandon the Desktop GUI environment >> all-together in favor of a well-featured window manager, simple launch bar >> for most used apps

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 4:58 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 20:14, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> I've recently switched from briefs to boxers. Somehow I don't think >>> that is worthy of an announcement either. :-) :-) >> Heh what a great alte

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 James McKenzie wrote: > We need > to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out > there. When you run Windows for the first time, annoying tutorials badger you incessantly about learning how to use the Windows interface and/or adapting

Re: Updating Adobe Air

Hi, >> Any idea what the issue could be here? Why does it require these >> applications? I don't ever recall having any difficulty updating this >> application in the past. >> >> gnome-keyring is already installed according to rpm, but is there >> something I need to do to enable it or something?

Re: Updating Adobe Air

On 06/13/2011 09:10 AM, Alex wrote: > Yes, I hadn't realized they were available in a repo. Can you point me > to info on how to use this repo? > If you go to http://get.adobe.com/air/ and select YUM as the version to download it will download an rpm containing the adobe repo information. After

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 > James McKenzie wrote: > >> We need >> to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out >> there. > > When you run Windows for the first time, annoying tutorials badger > you incessantly about le

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/13/2011 08:48 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 > James McKenzie wrote: > >> We need >> to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out >> there. > When you run Windows for the first time, annoying tutorials badger > you incessantly about lear

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote: > On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 >> James McKenzie wrote: >> >>> We need >>> to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out >>> there. >> When you run Windows for the first time, annoying tutoria

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 6:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/13/2011 08:48 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 >> James McKenzie wrote: >> >>> We need >>> to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out >>> there. >> When you run Windows for the first time, annoying

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:07:10 -0700 James McKenzie wrote: The last comment comes from a OSX Mac user. if I recall, you can only re-size the windows using the bottom left side on Mac, not to confuse the user-base=>BIG ego, poor skills. And then the lecture goes on: "if you don't follow the cheep

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/2011 10:06 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote: >> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 >>> James McKenzie wrote: >>> We need to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out there. >>> Wh

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/12/2011 03:08 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora as my primary OS, but > it's time to move on. My current and future needs are for a support life > measured in years, not months. And CentOS and Scientific Linux didn't > fulfill my other requi

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun June 12 2011, David wrote: > On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 > > > > James McKenzie wrote: > >> We need > >> to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out > >> there. > > > > When you run Windows for the first time, an

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 7:08 PM, nomnex wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:07:10 -0700 > James McKenzie wrote: > > > > The last comment comes from a OSX Mac user. if I recall, you can only > re-size the windows using the bottom left side on Mac, not to confuse > the user-base=>BIG ego, poor skills. I've been usi

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 7:17 PM, David wrote: > On 6/12/2011 10:06 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >> On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote: >>> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 James McKenzie wrote: > We need > to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use th

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sun June 12 2011, David wrote: > > On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 > > > > > > When you run Windows for the first time, annoying tutorials badger > > > you incessantly about learning how t

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 7:20 PM, JD wrote: > On 06/12/2011 03:08 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora as my primary OS, but >> it's time to move on. My current and future needs are for a support life >> measured in years, not months. And CentOS and Scientific Lin

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/2011 10:22 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > On Sun June 12 2011, David wrote: >> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 >>> >>> James McKenzie wrote: We need to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out there. >>> >>>

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/2011 10:31 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 6/12/11 7:17 PM, David wrote: >> On 6/12/2011 10:06 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >>> On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote: On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 > James McKenzie wrote: > >> We nee

Missing icons on LXDE

Hi, I' don't know why but icons have disappeared of LXDE desktop. I even run pcmanfm --desktop --profile lxde , logout and login and nothing! I'm using Fedora 15 Greetings -- -- Sergio Belkin  http://www.sergiobelkin.com Watch More TV http://sebelk.blogspot.com LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.l

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 7:30 PM, Stephen Bunn wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, John Aldrich > wrote: > > On Sun June 12 2011, David wrote: > > On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 > > > > > > When you run Win

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 7:37 PM, David wrote: > On 6/12/2011 10:22 PM, John Aldrich wrote: >> On Sun June 12 2011, David wrote: >>> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 James McKenzie wrote: > We need > to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use tha

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 7:42 PM, David wrote: > On 6/12/2011 10:31 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >> On 6/12/11 7:17 PM, David wrote: >>> On 6/12/2011 10:06 PM, James McKenzie wrote: On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote: > On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 >>

Re: Default browser problem -

On 06/12/2011 04:16 PM, Tim Evans wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Steven Stern > mailto:subscribed-li...@sterndata.com>> > wrote: > >> On 06/12/2011 11:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >>> On 12/06/11 11:11, James McKenzie wrote: On 6/12/11 7:51 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/2011 11:04 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 6/12/11 7:42 PM, David wrote: >> On 6/12/2011 10:31 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >>> On 6/12/11 7:17 PM, David wrote: On 6/12/2011 10:06 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote: >> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrot

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/12/2011 10:26 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >> > Marketing is what is it is all about. You could make the best gizmo in > the business, but if you cannot get folks to use it, you just wasted > your time and alot of someone else's money. This happened with OS/2 > when Microsoft introduced W

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 6/12/11 8:15 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 06/12/2011 10:26 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > >> Marketing is what is it is all about. You could make the best gizmo in >> the business, but if you cannot get folks to use it, you just wasted >> your time and alot of someone else's money. This happe

[genu] Test

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Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 12/06/2011 11:12 PM, David wrote: > I see. Now I understand you completely. Since Linux is user supported. I > am sure that the developers would welcome any tutorials that you would > write and provide. That is the way the Linux works. > > As for "the folks in Redmond"? I doubt that they will lo

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/13/2011 09:26 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > I don't expect to see much from Fedora 15 for at least another year or > so. Maybe Gnome3 will be added to RHEL 6.2, but that is a ways off. Umm. No., RHEL 7 will be the earliest that GNOME 3.x will be included. Neither RHEL nor Fedora will upda

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/13/2011 12:06 AM, Phil Savoie wrote: > James, > > No point in arguing with this guy. This *is* the reason why linux in > general is the state in which you describe. Responses like his only > further prove your points. It's too bad that there are way more David's > out there than those l

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 6/12/11 7:30 PM, Stephen Bunn wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, John Aldrich > > wrote: > > > > > Seriously? You aren't really trying to argue the point that windows > > has better documentation th

Re: Adieu, Fedora

--- On Sun, 6/12/11, David wrote: > From: David > Subject: Re: Adieu, Fedora > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011, 7:17 PM > On 6/12/2011 10:06 PM, James McKenzie > wrote: > > On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote: > >> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > >>> On S

Is yum dependency resolution upside down?

I don't know if it is yum, the package group definitions or the package dependencies that are wrong - but no matter who is to blame - the result is definitely not intuitive (or imho correct)... After being hit by a fatal error in preupgrade, I am now unable to re-run the upgrade because of low mem

Re: Adieu, Fedora

> > Linux has always been the geek OS. And the directions > have always been > > written in Geek for Geeks. > > > Yes.  To grow the desktop, we need to start embracing > the common user.  > There are a limited number of geeks and they cannot sustain > Linux.  Not > at a financially viable level..

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/13/2011 01:11 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > I like to fix machines for my students and they laugh and joke around when a > fake rogue virus shows up that it is scanning and I start the machine in safe > mode and look for the startup folder in the user/TEMP/ApplicationData/ > folders wher

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:26:47 -0700 James McKenzie wrote: > are trying to copy the functionality of MacOSX Aqua. It is simple > and basically hides most functions most users will never want to > touch and in most cases, should not touch. You seems passionate making your point here. I recommend a

Re: gnome/XFCE desktop wallpaper problem - it won't stay!

On 06/12/2011 08:53 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: > Did you start wallpapoz and not turn it off? It'll do that. I beg to differ. I use wallpapoz on both my desktop and my laptop and haven't had the slightest difficulty because of it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/12/2011 05:07 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > he decision has been made, for > us by others, that the desktop will move into the 21st Century. I would rather say that certain people have decided what the desktop of the 21st Century will be and have also decided that the rest of us will have no

Re: Adieu, Fedora

On 06/12/2011 07:54 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > People are tired of using poor quality software written > to a broken OS. Say rather that most people are so used to badly written software and a broken OS that they don't realize how bad things are; they think it's normal. Right now, I'm house si