On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Adam Tong wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My fedora 12 detects my wifi card. But i'm unable to activate the device.
> When I try to do that I have the following error:
> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
This Erro
On 19/03/11 05:21, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/18/2011 10:15 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote:
>> I may have to skip F15, which saddens me.
>
> Why? If Gnome 3 is in F 15, it's going to be in 16 as well. Just move
> to a different desktop, like XFCE.
I can see the logic in that, but it's a shame. If every
On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 23:50 -0400, Alex wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >> I think this is going to be more complex than I have time to address.
> >> I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have so I can try it on my
> >> desktop, but for this one I'm working on now, I think I'll just
> >> uninstall for now and tr
On 03/21/2011 11:34 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
> On 19/03/11 05:21, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 03/18/2011 10:15 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote:
>>> I may have to skip F15, which saddens me.
>>
>> Why? If Gnome 3 is in F 15, it's going to be in 16 as well. Just move
>> to a different desktop, like XFCE.
... or a
GeeKer Wang wrote:
> Hi, guys
> I tried to compile OpenSceneGraph-2.8.3-3.fc14.rpm software, and got a
> low efficient and large version of it. But the version from fedora-repo
> works well.
> eg. my version with frame rate < 10, while fedora-repo version with frame
> rate ~=40.
>
> I have t
Thanks guys i'm gonna update my os first and i'll be back to you with more
details if still does not work.
Thanks again
--- On Mon, 3/21/11, mike cloaked wrote:
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> Subject: Re: wifi troubleshooting
> To: "Community support for Fedora users"
> Date: Monday, March 21, 2011,
On 3/21/11, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 11:34 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
>> On 19/03/11 05:21, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>> On 03/18/2011 10:15 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote:
I may have to skip F15, which saddens me.
>>>
>>> Why? If Gnome 3 is in F 15, it's going to be in 16 as well. Just move
>>>
> "James" == James McKenzie writes:
James> Hopefully, Gnome3 will bring more folks into the light and
James> see Windows for the brokenness it is.
Not something I hope for. Then we will get the full attention of the
virus writers.
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, James McKenzie wrote:
> I don't think that is the intent. I don't think this is the intent of
> the Gnome3 developers either. However, as Linux moves from a niche to
> prominenance we are going to pick up the ID10Ts that will click on a
> button just to see what happens and
Virtualbox networking can get a little goofy sometimes. You may want to try
a bridged network adapter instead of the default NAT.
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Daniel Gonzalez wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> My name is Daniel Gonzalez and I am new to this mailing list, I hope to
> ayduar as I can while
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Oh yes, for a great example of how well gnome developers respond
> to negative feedback check out this bugzilla:
>
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541
>
> Every once in a while I go back and re-read it just for the
> entertainment
On 3/21/11, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
>> "James" == James McKenzie writes:
>
> James> Hopefully, Gnome3 will bring more folks into the light and
> James> see Windows for the brokenness it is.
>
> Not something I hope for. Then we will get the full attention of the
> virus writers.
If yo
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:15 AM, James McKenzie wrote:
> On 3/21/11, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 03/21/2011 11:34 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
>>>
>>> I can see the logic in that, but it's a shame. If everyone who wants
>>> a bit of user interface stability jumps ship there will be no brakes
>>> on
On 03/21/2011 04:15 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
> On 3/21/11, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 03/21/2011 11:34 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
>>> I can see the logic in that, but it's a shame. If everyone who wants
>>> a bit of user interface stability jumps ship there will be no brakes
>>> on the Gnome deve
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:58:54 +
Krosh Ivanov wrote:
> Output of commands: http://paste.ideaslabs.com/show/Gz39dMdbOs.
> Well, it doesn't matter the way I use yum, the error is the same. I
> think I've changed nothing related to yum configuration or to
> something important to it. The package '
Hi,
Just thought I would make an observation about the direction of Fedora
after reading some of the comments in the OT morons thread, that has
morphed into grumbling about Gnome 3.
I was looking at the list archives
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/
for another reason and I notice
Once upon a time, Ralf Corsepius said:
> * Try to open 2 side-by-side terminals on Fedora 15's Gnome 3:
> I haven't managed to do so, yet.
Really? I played around with gnome-shell on a couple of the graphics
test days and was not impressed, but I haven't had a chance to look at
it again (or any
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:43:42 -0700
Alan Evans wrote:
> I'm also reminded of this closer-to-home classic:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-May/372990.html
Yea, that thread was one of the inspirations for this rant:
http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/oss-happ
Hi,
> Not SELinux, but policy kit. There used to be an easy to use gui to
> create custom policies, but that is no more available. You need to
> muck around with policy files by hand to achieve that these days. At
> least that is my understanding.
Yes, that sounds like what I was thinking. It was
On 03/21/2011 08:34 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> Perhaps a command line tool for enabling configuration:
> sudo IHerebySwear 'I am not now and have never been a Windows user.'
I'd like to see the response to that be:'
"You lie; you used sudo."
If you're a proper Linux user on your own box, you
On 03/21/2011 10:16 AM, stan wrote:
> And it
> begs the question of*why* people might be deserting Fedora.
No it doesn't; it *ASKS* the question. "Begging the question" is a
logical fallacy. Please stop using that term like an illiterate moron,
even if it is common usage. Just because the co
On 3/21/11, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 08:34 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> Perhaps a command line tool for enabling configuration:
>> sudo IHerebySwear 'I am not now and have never been a Windows user.'
>
> I'd like to see the response to that be:'
>
> "You lie; you used sudo."
>
> If you're
On 03/21/2011 11:28 AM, James McKenzie wrote:
> Either way, I prefer to give users sudo as it is restrictive and I
> know what they can/cannot do and how much damge I'll have to fix when
> they break things.
My point is, if it's your box and you're the only user, you know the
root password and th
On 3/20/11, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> James McKenzie wrote:
>> If you want to stop sniffing of the unencrypted traffic, then IPTables
>> IS NOT THE WAY TO GO. You should either remove the sniffer program or
>> make it so that only users with root capabilities can run it (sudoers
>> should not have t
2011/3/21 James McKenzie
> On 3/21/11, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 03/21/2011 08:34 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> >> Perhaps a command line tool for enabling configuration:
> >> sudo IHerebySwear 'I am not now and have never been a Windows user.'
> >
> > I'd like to see the response to that be:'
> >
On 3/21/11, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 11:28 AM, James McKenzie wrote:
>> Either way, I prefer to give users sudo as it is restrictive and I
>> know what they can/cannot do and how much damge I'll have to fix when
>> they break things.
>
> My point is, if it's your box and you're the only use
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:40:27 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> My point is, if it's your box and you're the only user, you know the
> root password and there's no excuse for using sudo.
Sure there is, if you have configured sudo for your user so it
doesn't ask for a password.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:16 PM, stan wrote:
>
> Just thought I would make an observation about the direction of Fedora
> after reading some of the comments in the OT morons thread, that has
> morphed into grumbling about Gnome 3.
>
> I was looking at the list archives
> http://lists.fedoraproject
Chris Adams hiwaay.net> writes:
>
> Once upon a time, Ralf Corsepius freenet.de> said:
> > * Try to open 2 side-by-side terminals on Fedora 15's Gnome 3:
> > I haven't managed to do so, yet.
> ...
> I disliked the panel-on-top with gnome-shell; the first thing I always
> do under older GNOME i
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:04:36 -0500 Tom H wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:16 PM, stan wrote:
> >
> > Just thought I would make an observation about the direction of Fedora
> > after reading some of the comments in the OT morons thread, that has
> > morphed into grumbling about Gnome 3.
> >
> >
On 03/21/2011 11:48 AM, James McKenzie wrote:
> If it's yours, enjoy. If it is not, as it is where I work, then I'm
> stuck with sudo.
That's why I was so specific. When I first started doing tech support
for an ISP, back in '96, we had telnet access to one server to make
various database quer
On 03/21/2011 11:51 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:40:27 -0700
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>
>> My point is, if it's your box and you're the only user, you know the
>> root password and there's no excuse for using sudo.
>
> Sure there is, if you have configured sudo for your user so it
> doe
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:19:33 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 10:16 AM, stan wrote:
> > And it
> > begs the question of*why* people might be deserting Fedora.
>
> No it doesn't; it *ASKS* the question.
It doesn't ask the question. Asking 'Why might people be deserting
Fedora?' asks the
On 03/21/2011 12:10 PM, JB wrote:
> I am just wondering I we petitioned them to take care of a few problems ...
"I have a little list,
They never will be missed."
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On 03/21/2011 12:18 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Many of their releases languish without updates for
> far longer than Fedora, in my experience. Ubuntu is designed to make
> the switch from Windoze to be as painless as possible, and they
> probably achieve that.
AOL. My sister uses the latest Ubu
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:04:36 -0500 Tom H wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:16 PM, stan wrote:
>>>
>>> Now, there can be many reasons for that:
>>> - the traffic has been split to more specific lists
>>> - people are using other means to g
On 03/21/2011 12:36 PM, stan wrote:
> That is one interpretation of "beg the question". However, when I
> use a phrase, it means exactly what I want it to mean, no more and no
> less.
Thank you Mr. Humpty Dumpty. You do understand, don't you, that that
attitude makes communication impossible be
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Alex wrote:
> Yes, I can do that too; I was referring to System->Shut Down directly
> that doesn't work without prompting for root password.
Ah! Now I understand clearly what you mean. Polkit is the way to go
here. I have not tried to customise that after they re
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> My point is, if it's your box and you're the only user, you know the
> root password and there's no excuse for using sudo. Using sudo under
> those circumstances is, IMAO one of the hallmarks of the luser.
If I may ask, what is wrong with
On 03/21/2011 10:07 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> * Try to open 2 side-by-side terminals on Fedora 15's Gnome 3:
> I haven't managed to do so, yet.
Right click - New window or control+shift+t if you are using GNOME Terminal
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Tour
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/
On 03/21/2011 12:54 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
> If I may ask, what is wrong with sudo? Specially when configured with PASSWD?
If you have the root password, it's the wrong tool for the job. It's
designed, AIUI, for people who *don't have* the root password to have
*limited access* to specific root
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 10:16 -0700, stan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just thought I would make an observation about the direction of Fedora
> after reading some of the comments in the OT morons thread, that has
> morphed into grumbling about Gnome 3.
>
> I was looking at the list archives
> http://lists.fed
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:19:21 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> In
> fact, in Fedora, you can't even set sudo up so that you can use it
> without using the *root password!*
Sure you can:
tom ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
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On 03/21/2011 01:53 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:19:21 -0700
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>
>> In
>> fact, in Fedora, you can't even set sudo up so that you can use it
>> without using the *root password!*
>
> Sure you can:
>
> tom ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
To do that you have to m
On 03/21/2011 06:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 10:16 AM, stan wrote:
>> And it
>> begs the question of*why* people might be deserting Fedora.
> No it doesn't; it *ASKS* the question. "Begging the question" is a
> logical fallacy. Please stop using that term like an illiterate moron,
>
2011-03-21 22:06, Joe Zeff skrev:
> On 03/21/2011 01:53 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:19:21 -0700
>> Joe Zeff wrote:
>>
>>> In
>>> fact, in Fedora, you can't even set sudo up so that you can use it
>>> without using the *root password!*
>>
>> Sure you can:
>>
>> tom ALL=(ALL)
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 12:36 PM, stan wrote:
>> That is one interpretation of "beg the question". However, when I
>> use a phrase, it means exactly what I want it to mean, no more and no
>> less.
>
> Thank you Mr. Humpty Dumpty. You do understand, don't
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:06:26 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> To do that you have to modify the sudo user's file. (don't remember the
> exact name) Don't you need root access (i.e. the password) to do that?
Yea, I need the password once when I'm installing, and once when I'm modifying
/etc/sudoers, the
On 03/21/2011 02:25 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> Do you realize that when you treat someone the way you did that no one
> cares if your right?
My right what? Don't you mean "you're right?" If so, you prove my
point. Thank you.
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On 03/21/2011 02:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 12:54 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
>> If I may ask, what is wrong with sudo? Specially when configured with PASSWD?
> If you have the root password, it's the wrong tool for the job. It's
> designed, AIUI, for people who *don't have* the root passwor
On Monday 21 March 2011 21:19:16 Vaclav Mocek wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 06:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 03/21/2011 10:16 AM, stan wrote:
> >> And it
> >> begs the question of*why* people might be deserting Fedora.
> >
> > No it doesn't; it *ASKS* the question. "Begging the question" is a
> > logic
On 03/21/2011 02:54 PM, Phil Meyer wrote:
> First of all, after nearly 30 years of UNIX and then Linux
> administration, I would not hire you into my group with a belief such as
> that.
I should have been more clear. I was thinking in terms of your own
computer, or one that you own. Two friends
On 03/21/2011 03:04 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> It's just that Joe Zeff apparently has a bad day today. ;-) Or maybe he has
> something personal against Stan and uses a public list to pass on a couple of
> personal insults.
Or, maybe, just maybe, I have a personal dislike for that particular
bar
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> If you have the root password, it's the wrong tool for the job. It's
> designed, AIUI, for people who *don't have* the root password to have
> *limited access* to specific root commands. It can also be used (as I
> described in a different messa
On 03/21/2011 04:23 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
> Whereas in
> a proper root shell aren't you prone to "grave mistakes" due to silly
> things like typos, "forgot where I am in the directory tree" like
> errors?
First, I only use su - if and *only* if I have to, to avoid those
embarrassing "where was I?
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 22:04 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Monday 21 March 2011 21:19:16 Vaclav Mocek wrote:
> > On 03/21/2011 06:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > > On 03/21/2011 10:16 AM, stan wrote:
> > >> And it
> > >> begs the question of*why* people might be deserting Fedora.
> > >
> > > No
On 21 March 2011 23:46, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 04:23 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
>> Whereas in
>> a proper root shell aren't you prone to "grave mistakes" due to silly
>> things like typos, "forgot where I am in the directory tree" like
>> errors?
>
> First, I only use su - if and *only* if I h
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 16:46 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
...
> As I've been writing this, something interesting has occurred to me: by
> the time I stopped doing tech support for an ISP (Our call center was
> closed and the entire support crew was laid off.) I had been "on the
> phones" longer than a
> On 03/21/2011 10:16 AM, stan wrote:
>> begs the question of*why* people might be deserting Fedora.
> No it doesn't; it *ASKS* the question.
I'd like to step in here, as a heavy user of en_GB and say that the
original form is correct *and* in common usage. I accept that it may
not have made it i
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 15:38 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 03:04 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > It's just that Joe Zeff apparently has a bad day today. ;-) Or maybe he has
> > something personal against Stan and uses a public list to pass on a couple
> > of
> > personal insults.
>
> Or, m
On 03/21/2011 05:07 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> def. Hubris (World English Dictionary)
TYVM, but I've been around long enough to know that I don't know everything.
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On 22 March 2011 00:07, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 16:46 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> ...
>> As I've been writing this, something interesting has occurred to me: by
>> the time I stopped doing tech support for an ISP (Our call center was
>> closed and the entire support cre
On 03/21/2011 05:16 PM, les wrote:
> I find it rather amusing that you choose a fictional character to quote
> in support of a barb, rather than the author who truly owns the words.
> But to each his own. Rex Stout might be pleased or offended, depending
> on how he identifies with his character.
Please reestablish me to the list.
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On 2011/03/21 11:40, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 11:28 AM, James McKenzie wrote:
>> Either way, I prefer to give users sudo as it is restrictive and I
>> know what they can/cannot do and how much damge I'll have to fix when
>> they break things.
>
> My point is, if it's your box and you're the
On 03/21/2011 05:28 PM, jdow wrote:
> No, Joe, you use sudo. That's one less character to type.
Actually, I don't, because I've never set up sudo. I only use it when
orking on my sister's Ubuntu box because that's the way Ubuntu works.
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Well, Joe, I don't know about Fedora 14 but I do know about earlier
Fedoras and Scientific Linux 6 which I happen to have up on a virtual
machine. All of them require the USER's password for sudo, not the root
password. You should be able to test that yourself fairly easily.
(I made that same mist
You generic not you specific.
There have been times on Mint/Ubuntu I've simply used "sudo su -l", done
my work, and exited. For some things the command prompts work oh so much
better. Mint is nice. I am not sure I like ubuntu or its community very
much. They make this place look adult, which I rea
>From "Right to Die":
Whipple: "They think it has a basis, but it hasn't."
Wolfe: "That begs the question. I'll try again.
Why do they think it has a basis?"
Whipple: "Because I was there. Because she and I -
we were friends. Because she was white
and I'm
On 2011/03/21 17:07, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 16:46 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> ...
>> As I've been writing this, something interesting has occurred to me: by
>> the time I stopped doing tech support for an ISP (Our call center was
>> closed and the entire support crew wa
On 03/22/2011 12:29 AM, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
> Please reestablish me to the list.
what makes you think you where removed?
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 02:25 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>> Do you realize that when you treat someone the way you did that no one
>> cares if your right?
>
> My right what? Don't you mean "you're right?" If so, you prove my
> point. Thank you.
No, don't c
Got a sort of OT question...
In libreoffice using spreadsheet, I want to input a number in a cell and
have it multiply by 16.
I have tried =D3*16 and =sum(D3*16) and both get errors.
Anyone have any ideas? Obviously may contact me offlist and not bug the
list if know the answer.
thanks ahead o
On Monday, March 21, 2011, Jon Ingason wrote:
> Read the man page "man sudo". And yes you need to be superuser
> (root) to change /etc/sudoers. You must do it with visudo,
> see "man visudo".
I read it and ignored it - the few times I've done it, I've edited
sudoers with a text editor started fr
On 03/21/2011 09:26 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> Got a sort of OT question...
>
> In libreoffice using spreadsheet, I want to input a number in a cell and
> have it multiply by 16.
>
> I have tried =D3*16 and =sum(D3*16) and both get errors.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? Obviously may contact me off
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 21:43 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 09:26 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > Got a sort of OT question...
> >
> > In libreoffice using spreadsheet, I want to input a number in a cell and
> > have it multiply by 16.
> >
> > I have tried =D3*16 and =sum(D3*16) and
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 21:43 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 09:26 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > Got a sort of OT question...
> >
> > In libreoffice using spreadsheet, I want to input a number in a cell and
> > have it multiply by 16.
> >
> > I have tried =D3*16 and =sum(D3*16) and
On 2011/03/21 18:55, Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 21:43 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
>> On 03/21/2011 09:26 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
>>> Got a sort of OT question...
>>>
>>> In libreoffice using spreadsheet, I want to input a number in a cell and
>>> have it multiply by 16.
>>>
>
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 12:47 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> Not real clear on what you are trying to do.
Basically what I am messing with, is the March Madness bracket office
pool we have at work. I take the number of wins for a round (example, 5
wins) and want to be able to just input that
Mike,
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 12:47 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
>> Not real clear on what you are trying to do.
>
> Basically what I am messing with, is the March Madness bracket office
> pool we have at work. I take the number of wins
On 03/21/2011 05:42 PM, jdow wrote:
> All of them require the USER's password for sudo, not the root
> password.
Of course they do; that's how sudo works.
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On 03/22/2011 06:36:32 AM, stan wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:19:33 -0700
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> > On 03/21/2011 10:16 AM, stan wrote:
> > > And it
> > > begs the question of*why* people might be deserting Fedora.
> >
> > No it doesn't; it *ASKS* the question.
>
> It doesn't ask the question.
Why not just enter the regular number in the columns, and just do
the formula in the total column?
Just enter the wins in Columns B thru G Then in H put the
formula.
H3 would have, with x1 thru x5 replaced with your numbers.
=B3*x1+c3*x2+d3*x3+e3*x4+g3*x5
Otherwise, you could enter the number
On 03/21/2011 05:49 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Apparently Nero Wolfe is willing to make contact with
> the expression "begs the question" :-).
If you read it carefully, you'll see that he's not misusing it; he's
pointing out that whoever Whipple is referring to as "they" are assuming
that "it has
On 03/21/2011 09:33 AM, Unknown wrote:
> I havent deserted Fedora
Neither have I, and I don't intend to. I may, however stop using Gnome.
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On 03/21/2011 06:06 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> > On 03/21/2011 02:25 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>>> >> Do you realize that when you treat someone the way you did that no one
>>> >> cares if your right?
>> >
>> > My right what? Don't you mean "yo
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> Speaking of which, I am not exactly comfortable with why Fedora (or
>> Ubuntu) allow any user to install updates using PackageKit without any
>> root access (or sudo password). I feel that this is not really right
>> from a security point of view..
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:41:55 -0500 suvayu ali
wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Tom H wrote:
> >> Speaking of which, I am not exactly comfortable with why Fedora (or
> >> Ubuntu) allow any user to install updates using PackageKit without any
> >> root access (or sudo password). I feel t
On 03/21/2011 06:18 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Ralf Corsepius said:
>> * Try to open 2 side-by-side terminals on Fedora 15's Gnome 3:
>> I haven't managed to do so, yet.
>
> Really?
Yes, I am absolutely serious:
I haven't found any possibility to open 2 (or more) side-by-side
te
Patrick,
>> Yes, that's my favorite, but it's too complex for my father-in-law. I
>> told him to stick with brasero, since that's what's included with
>> fedora so should at least be functional for what it says it can do,
>> and I'll try the other programs when/if I ever need them.
>
> Once again,
On 03/21/2011 09:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 03/21/2011 10:07 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> * Try to open 2 side-by-side terminals on Fedora 15's Gnome 3:
>> I haven't managed to do so, yet.
>
> Right click - New window or control+shift+t if you are using GNOME Terminal
Doesn't work for me .
On 03/22/2011 12:14 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Doesn't work for me ... nothing happens
Just wondering Now this thread has moved on to a general discussion
on Gnome wouldn't it make some sense to start a new thread with a more
meaningful subject?
I think there were some interesting things w
Hi Ranjan,
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:41:55 -0500 suvayu ali
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> >> Speaking of which, I am not exactly comfortable with why Fedora (or
>> >> Ubuntu) allow any user to install updates
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