On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 01:32 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
> A black object will more readily exchange heat by radiation with its
> surroundings than a white object. If your computer case is hotter
> than other objects it is receiving radiation from, a black case will
> radiate more effectively, just
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:23 AM, JD wrote:
> I had no errors!
You didn't have, but your system had! So it got rectified.
> Add-ons and plugins seem to have side effects that
> are impossible for a user to track down.
But it got solved, isn't it?
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I was hoping someone can share a methodology of finding the ldif changes that
happens when doing changes in the GUI. I would like to create equivalent ldif
files for all changes that I do in the GUI. Thus far I have been doing before
and after diffs of dse.ldif. I have not done that yet for n
On 08/12/2010 02:43 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>
> "Christoph A." writes:
>> It seams that this didn't fix it entirely - in some cases it doesn't
>> work again...
>> I'll have to dig deeper..
>
> Try just copying it. If the mozilla does a chroot the symlink may be
> outside of what it can
On 08/12/2010 06:03 AM, Joe Klemmer wrote:
> Upon upgrading to flash-plugin-10.1.82.76 flash movies no longer play.
> I get either nothing or a black box. Regular flash components don't
> work either.
>
> I know we're using flash at our own risk but, until everything moves to
> whateverthenextlat
On Wednesday, August 11, 2010 03:34:55 Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> Garry T. Williams wrote:
> > I was surprised to see /lib64/dbus-1/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
> > link to Oracle's version of libexpat.
> >
> > What did I do wrong?
>
> Did you add the line in ld.so.conf in first position or in last
> p
Christoph A. writes:
> On 08/12/2010 02:43 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>>
>> "Christoph A." writes:
>>> It seams that this didn't fix it entirely - in some cases it doesn't
>>> work again...
>>> I'll have to dig deeper..
>>
>> Try just copying it. If the mozilla does a chroot the symlink
On 08/12/2010 07:30 AM, Tim wrote:
> I'd be quite surprised if this were very noticeable. Considering the
> usual shiny black computer case, versus an optimal black body radiator.
as in shiny vs flat black.
be it degrees Celsius or degrees Fahrenheit, using Kelvin temperature is
a better meas
On 08/12/2010 03:07 PM, n...@li.nux.ro wrote:
> Christoph A. writes:
>
>> On 08/12/2010 02:43 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>>>
>>> "Christoph A." writes:
It seams that this didn't fix it entirely - in some cases it doesn't
work again...
I'll have to dig deeper..
>>>
>>> Try jus
On 08/11/2010 11:59 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Tim wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 17:34 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>>> The link is:
>>> http://www.tnr.com/print/article/politics/76822/the-look-time
>> That actually looks reasonably good, on screen, her
I would like to give someone a login on my server.
But, I would like to limit access to his home dir.
With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this person
could see what he wants and do maybe the unexpected.
Can I prevent him from moving somehow? (whatever version of Fedora)
I would like to give someone a login on my server.
But, I would like to limit access to his home dir.
With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this person
could see what he wants and do maybe the unexpected.
Can I, somehow, prevent him from moving? (whatever version of Fedora
Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> Where are the sources?
> http://directory.fedoraproject.org/sources/
>
It is there now.
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I have a DNS server running on a physical server 192.168.126.1. However
I like to split all my services onto their own IP addresses for ease of
migration, so I logically assign 192.168.126.154 to this server using
the following lines in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
ifconfig eth0:2 192.168.126.154
route
On 08/12/2010 01:40 PM, roland wrote:
> I would like to give someone a login on my server.
> But, I would like to limit access to his home dir.
>
> With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this person
> could see what he wants and do maybe the unexpected.
>
> Can I prevent hi
On 08/12/2010 12:30 PM, Roger K. Wells wrote:
> On 08/11/2010 11:59 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
>> That said, I do have the msttcore-fonts package installed.
>> Could the reason it looks like garbage for the OP be simply that?
>
> Same here and I also have msttcore-fonts installed.
> FireFox v
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 14:40 +0200, roland wrote:
> I would like to give someone a login on my server.
> But, I would like to limit access to his home dir.
>
> With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this
> person could see what he wants and do maybe the unexpected.
Unless you
On 08/11/2010 03:36 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> On 08/11/2010 08:41 AM, Christoph A. wrote:
>> Hi,
>
>> since the flash-plugin update (v10.1.82.76) yesterday, it is not working
>> anymore within a SELinux sandbox.
>> If firefox is not running within a sandbox flash works fine.
>
>> Has anyone exp
On 8/12/2010 9:59 AM, Christoph A. wrote:
> On 08/11/2010 03:36 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>
> Now I'm quite sure that SELinux has something todo with the issue.
>
> If I change to permissive mode (setenforce 0) flash within the sandbox
> works, but there are no new entries in the audit.log file..
I am currently install and using Fedora 13. I just realize sound volume
in Fedora is low. After do an intensive search for this problem, and I
had learn this had been a going on problem since Fedora release 10. So
how I make sound volume in Fedora 13 more louder.
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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Steve Searle wrote:
> I have a DNS server running on a physical server 192.168.126.1. However
> I like to split all my services onto their own IP addresses for ease of
> migration, so I logically assign 192.168.126.154 to this server using
> the following lines in
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 01:32 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
>> A black object will more readily exchange heat by radiation with its
>> surroundings than a white object. If your computer case is hotter
>> than other objects it is receiving radiation from, a
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:31:04 +0200, Tim
wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 14:40 +0200, roland wrote:
>> I would like to give someone a login on my server.
>> But, I would like to limit access to his home dir.
>>
>> With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this
>> person could se
>I thought Norton Ghost offers a bootable ISO for restoring?
They do, and you can also get a hold of ghost_explorer.exe to open GHO
data sets & extract files.
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On 08/12/2010 08:40 AM, roland wrote:
> I would like to give someone a login on my server.
> But, I would like to limit access to his home dir.
>
> With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this person
> could see what he wants and
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> I'll try it.
> Now that you mention it, I think it's even what I did last time.
> Still, 'twould be nice to know WTF happend this time.
I'll try it tonight.
I got home too late last night.
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> > Hello,
> >
> > Well, my steps to make a Video-DVD containing mainly audio are as
> > follows:
> >
> > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 1.wav -r 44100 -target
> > pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg
> > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 2.wav -r 44100 -target
> > pal-dvd -
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:16:57AM -0400, Luan Pham wrote:
> I am currently install and using Fedora 13. I just realize sound volume
> in Fedora is low. After do an intensive search for this problem, and I
> had learn this had been a going on problem since Fedora release 10. So
> how I make sound
Thanks, bumped in Gentoo.
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Steve Searle stevesearle.com> writes:
> ...
> I have got round it by getting the dhcp server to give out the ...126.1
> address, but would prefer to get the ...126.154 address working.
>
Hi,
is this still valid ?
If you are configuring an Ethernet device to have an alias, neither the device
nor
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On 08/12/2010 08:18 AM, Christoph A. wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 03:07 PM, n...@li.nux.ro wrote:
>> Christoph A. writes:
>>
>>> On 08/12/2010 02:43 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
"Christoph A." writes:
> It seams that this didn't fix it ent
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:56 AM, JB wrote:
> Steve Searle stevesearle.com> writes:
>> ...
>> I have got round it by getting the dhcp server to give out the ...126.1
>> address, but would prefer to get the ...126.154 address working.
>
> is this still valid ?
> If you are configuring an Ethernet
On 08/12/2010 06:01 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> Not sure what is causing the problem, but I would try to run restorecon
> on the directory
>
> restorecon -R -v /usr/lib64 /usr/lib
restorecon -R -v /usr/lib64 /usr/lib
restorecon reset
/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/nswrapper_64_64.libflashpla
This problem has been occuring for a longer time and with multiple
kernels. During booting _most_ of the time, not always the computer
freezes during early stages. With other distros the the booting has
stopped after giving out a couple of "HT MSI Mapping" lines, but with
fedora (noquiet) I can onl
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On 08/10/2010 06:42 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> I just installed the Oracle 11g client on a Fedora 13 x86_64 system.
> I encountered a problem, though. Here's the summary:
>
> After installation, I wanted to add the client libraries to ldconfig
>
Hi,
I'm trying to install an Asterisk server o a Fedora 11 server, 64 bit.
The process required from me to install the kernel-devel package.
I run 'yum install kernel-devel' and it tells me there is no kernel-devel
packages.
[r...@ns310181 include]# uname -r
2.6.33.5--grs-ipv4-64
[r...@ns3101
On 08/12/2010 10:12 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 08:40 AM, roland wrote:
>> I would like to give someone a login on my server.
>> But, I would like to limit access to his home dir.
>
>> With Nautilus, Konqueror or from distance with p.e. Winscp, this person
>> could see what he want
On 08/12/2010 10:00 AM, Mats Rauhala wrote:
> This problem has been occuring for a longer time and with multiple
> kernels. During booting _most_ of the time, not always the computer
> freezes during early stages. With other distros the the booting has
> stopped after giving out a couple of "HT MSI
On 08/12/2010 02:04 PM, Albert Bonomo wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm trying to install an Asterisk server o a Fedora 11 server, 64 bit.
> The process required from me to install the kernel-devel package.
> I run 'yum install kernel-devel' and it tells me there is no
> kernel-devel packages.
>
> [r...@ns310181
Was afraid of that as I don't own a floppy drive. I'll look into some
other ways of updating though.
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One more question:
Can I read/modify the
nsuniqueid=---,dc=your,dc=suffix object,
without being logged in as "Directory Manager". If so, what kind of aci's need
I to set?
Thanks,
-Reinhard
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> > Subject: Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find
> > On 08/08/2010 12:32 PM, Vincent wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I am try to use the floppy on Dell Dimension 8300 with fc12 but it
> > > didn't mount.
> > > Here is what I did:
> > > # mkdir /mnt/floppy
> > >
> > > # mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 mnt/floppy
>
roland wrote:
>
> Someone who will install a website on the server. So I thought to give
> him a login and config apache to read the dir in his home dir.
> He has to upload the files for this site. So I won't him to see only his
> home dir.
>
> So actually he will not run something, just install.
Kevin, my man, you know what you r talking about !!!
here you have the command output:
[r...@ns310181 include]# rpm -qa kernel\*
kernel-headers-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64
or the other one ( shorter )
[r...@ns310181 include]# rpm -qa | grep 2.6
*kernel-headers-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64*
tar-1.22-6.fc
Mikkel writes:
> You may also want to consider setting his shell to rbash. See the
> "RESTRICTED SHELL" section of the bash man page.
Treat rbash as a fun puzzle, not as a security measure. They did block
">" redirects and ./doit file execution, but that is far from enough.
With a few minutes p
Albert Bonomo writes:
> I'm trying to install an Asterisk server o a Fedora 11 server, 64 bit.
---
> [r...@ns310181 include]# yum install kernel-devel
> Setting up Install Process
> No package kernel-devel available.
> Nothing to do
Fed
Vincent Onelli wrote:
>Sent: Aug 12, 2010 12:00 PM
>To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
>Subject: Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find
>
>> > Subject: Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find
>> > On 08/08/2010 12:32 PM, Vincent wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>> > > I am try to use the floppy on Dell Dimension 8300 w
On 08/12/2010 03:10 PM, Albert Bonomo wrote:
> Kevin, my man, you know what you r talking about !!!
> here you have the command output:
>
> [r...@ns310181 include]# rpm -qa kernel\*
> kernel-headers-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64
>
> or the other one ( shorter )
> [r...@ns310181 include]# rpm -qa | gre
Kevin, I'm using a server from a company in spain that rents dedicated
servers.
At first, the server was setup with Fedora 13. Clean, no other stuff in it.
I started the process of installing Asterisk the same way I did with another
server that we have
but with Fedora 12. This other server was alre
Rich,
I did some additional tests regarding replicationIds.
Let's say, I just have two MM A <--> B. I start configuring the replica and
agreement on A and assign id 1. Then I do the same for B with the id 2.
Everything is fine. Then, I disable on both boxes the replication. Then, I
start setti
I've been trawling through the documentation trying to get a better
understanding of "best practices" for use of the console and admin server in an
environment with a large number of directory servers. In the perfect scenario,
we would like to be able to manage the entire estate (multiple locat
I've been trawling through the documentation trying to get a better
understanding of "best practices" for use of the console and admin
server in an environment with a large number of directory servers. In
the perfect scenario, we would like to be able to manage the entire
estate (multiple loca
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:16 -0400, Luan Pham wrote:
> I am currently install and using Fedora 13. I just realize sound volume
> in Fedora is low. After do an intensive search for this problem, and I
> had learn this had been a going on problem since Fedora release 10. So
> how I make sound volume
My intel 5100 comes up in ad-hoc mode constantly. I'd rather it was in
managed mode. Running NetworkManager XFCE desktop. Where do I set this
to come up in managed mode???
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Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal?
For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called "ListAvailable"
so I tried this:
# yum list available > List
and bash completion refuses to locate the local file and t
On 08/12/2010 04:15 PM, Albert Bonomo wrote:
> Kevin, I'm using a server from a company in spain that rents dedicated
> servers.
> At first, the server was setup with Fedora 13. Clean, no other stuff in it.
> I started the process of installing Asterisk the same way I did with
> another server that
Daniel B. Thurman cdkkt.com> writes:
> Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
> is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal?
>
> For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called "ListAvailable"
> so I tried this:
>
> # yum list available > List
>
> an
On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>
> Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
> is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal?
>
> For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called "ListAvailable"
> so I tried this:
>
> # yum list available>
On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
>> is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal?
>>
>> For example, I know there is a file in my desktop called "ListAvailable"
>>
On 08/12/2010 05:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote:
>> On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
>>> is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal?
>>>
>>> For example, I know
On 08/12/2010 03:32 PM, Mikkel wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 05:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>
>> On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>>>
>>>
Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
is not worki
Hello,
just to summarize the steps I followed (and so that there is no
misunderstanding) I have put up this little shellscript which takes as
argument the directory with all the wav files you'd like to put on the
DVD-Video and makes a DVD from that with some photo in jpeg format as
display.
Gabr
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:41 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> But these fails:
> # List
> # ./List
Is ListAvailable an executable? If not, bash will not try to expand it
as the first word.
> # yum list available > List
Check your bash completion settings (info bash). If you do say:
# ls > List
On 08/12/2010 03:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote:
>>On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
>>> is not working for local files in the gnome-terminal?
>>>
>>> For example, I know
On 08/12/2010 03:41 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 03:32 PM, Mikkel wrote:
>> On 08/12/2010 05:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote:
>>>
On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it ap
On 08/12/2010 05:41 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> Yes, in the original post, I said that there is a ListAvailable file in
> the Desktop
> directory, so bash-completion does not find any matching file there. It
> seems
> that bash-completion does not work on local files that are known to be
> ther
On 08/12/2010 04:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 15:41 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>> But these fails:
>> # List
>> # ./List
> Is ListAvailable an executable? If not, bash will not try to expand it
> as the first word.
>
>> # yum list available> List
> Check your ba
On 08/12/2010 02:00 PM, Vincent Onelli wrote:
>>> Subject: Re: Floppy on fc12 could not find
>>>On 08/08/2010 12:32 PM, Vincent wrote:
Hello,
I am try to use the floppy on Dell Dimension 8300 with fc12 but it
didn't mount.
Here is what I did:
# mkdir /mnt/floppy
>>
On 08/12/2010 04:55 PM, JD wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 03:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>
>> On 08/12/2010 03:09 PM, JD wrote:
>>
>>>On 08/12/2010 02:10 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>>>
>>>
Perhaps I am assuming wrong, but it appears that bash-completion
is not working f
On 08/12/2010 05:07 PM, Mikkel wrote:
>
> Normally does not search the current directory - it searches you
> executable search path for an executable starting with List.
Not exactly. If your executable search path includes . (dot)
then if you have an executable file in . and it's name starts
wit
On 08/12/2010 05:07 PM, Mikkel wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 05:41 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>
>> Yes, in the original post, I said that there is a ListAvailable file in
>> the Desktop
>> directory, so bash-completion does not find any matching file there. It
>> seems
>> that bash-completion does n
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 22:59 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Tim wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 17:34 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> >> The link is:
> >> http://www.tnr.com/print/article/politics/76822/the-look-time
> >
> > That actually looks reasonably good
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>
> Yes, that was how I discovered this anomaly - it was not expanding
> for some reason. I was trying to figure it out... what broke sort of
> thing... and it seemed to happen after an update, but maybe it is not
> related...
I'm not ab
On 08/12/2010 07:16 PM, JD wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 05:07 PM, Mikkel wrote:
>>
>> Normally does not search the current directory - it searches you
>> executable search path for an executable starting with List.
> Not exactly. If your executable search path includes . (dot)
> then if you have an exe
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:30 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
> For computers, the color of the case is probably not an important
> consideration with respect to thermal management. For spacecraft and
> even for the roof of a house, it is. For the understanding of
> physics, labeling something so fundam
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:30 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
>> For computers, the color of the case is probably not an important
>> consideration with respect to thermal management. For spacecraft and
>> even for the roof of a house, it is. For the under
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Dale Dellutri wrote:
> Wouldn't it be best to install hplip and then install the printer from that
> interface?
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/about.html
That did the trick.
In my previous efforts,
none of the multiple-choice options involved Photosmart.
I took Lase
On Thursday, August 12, 2010 13:10:27 Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> On 08/10/2010 06:42 PM, Garry T. Williams wrote:
> > I ran into the usual problems with Oracle, like needing execmod on
> > their libraries.
> > What did I do wrong?
> >
> I would also run restorecon -R -v /opt
> To make sure the SELin
On 08/12/2010 06:45 PM, Mikkel wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 07:16 PM, JD wrote:
>>On 08/12/2010 05:07 PM, Mikkel wrote:
>>> Normally does not search the current directory - it searches you
>>> executable search path for an executable starting with List.
>> Not exactly. If your executable search pat
Quoting Robert Myers :
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Tim wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:30 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
> This isn't a physics forum, and I don't want to turn it into one, but,
> with sufficient curiosity and Google, a proper answer to the question
> that was raised would
On 13/08/10 05:45, Dave Stevens wrote:
> Quoting Robert Myers:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Tim wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:30 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
>
>> This isn't a physics forum, and I don't want to turn it into one, but,
>> with sufficient curiosity and Google, a proper
Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice.
yum provides openoffice
reveals nothing.
yum provides "*openoffice*"
buries me in output.
I usually get the same effect whenever I want
to install a package whose name I do not know.
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On 13/08/10 06:27, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> Somehow I managed to install Fecora 13 without openoffice.
yum search openoffice
and install the bits you need.
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It is true that flat-black materials are the strongest radiators.
If you know the reflectivity of a material, you can measure its
temperature from the flux of light (or infrared, for normal
conditions) emitted per unit area from its surface. For a given
temperature, the higher reflectivity will e
On 08/13/2010 01:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> I mused at the time, what it would feel like for el spammero,
> to check the archive, and see that there was no outrage,
> just a bending of his will to ours (somewhat!).
However, I feel you've chosen your "spammer" target unwisely. The
particular pe
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