Re: Crontab as alarm clock with ogg123

2010-07-25 Thread Rick Sewill
On 07/24/2010 02:55 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > Hi, > > Using 'crontab -e' I set crond to play an ogg music file with ogg123. > But it only plays it if I'm logged in. > How does one make it play even if a different user is logged in or > nobody is logged in? > > To debug I tried su - to another

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 10:05 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > When it comes to picking a linux distribution for the first time users > they *may* be better served by downloading the various liveCDs from > different distributions and giving them a whirl. Or they could talk > to their friends and use what

Re: FC13 Connect to DD-WRT WPA2

2010-07-25 Thread JB
comcast.net> writes: > > FC13 > Anyone using DD-WRT and connecting with FC13 and WPA2 ? > > What is Maxium character size used on WPA2 . > > I have been all over the DD-WRT Wiki and can't find that info. Hi, is that what you are looking for ? search Google: Maxium character size WPA2 DD-WRT

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Ariful Hossain
On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 16:49 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 10:05 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > When it comes to picking a linux distribution for the first time users > > they *may* be better served by downloading the various liveCDs from > > different distributions and giving them a whirl

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-25 Thread Ariful Hossain
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 21:47 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 13:46 -0700, Les wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 07:36 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > > > ...So does this also mean you have the same inherent distrust for that > > > private internal cloud? You k

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/27/2010 07:19 AM, Ariful Hossain wrote: > I do not see the point of this dispute. I can't see any dispute I just hear different opinions... -- "Infidels in all ages have battled for the rights of man, and have at all times been the fearless advocates of liberty and justice." -- Robe

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: The only sin that we never forgive in each other is a difference in opinion. Public opinion is a second conscience. Opinion is the main thing which does harm or good in the world. It is our false opinions that ruin us. The history of human opini

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:15 AM, Jonathan Beatty wrote: >> You'd probably be much better off with ... Ubuntu (free) > Why is it important that we cater to the Ubuntu crowd? Fedora leads the way > in the Linux software world, and bogging down the Fedora distro itself to > accomodate those who a

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > What is wrong with it?  It is just a bit of shared humor.  Don't tell me Humor is good sometimes when you get bored while doing work! -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

bt keyboard at start up?

2010-07-25 Thread Morgan Read
Hello Folks I've just installed f12 (from centos5.5) and I'm puzzled at where global bt config is now? There was once /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth (still referenced in init script) where: HIDD_ENABLED=1 HIDD_OPTIONS="--master --server" HIDD_OPTIONS="--connect aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff --server" Could be ent

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > This list needs every bit of humor it can get (smile). People seldom notice old clothes if you wear a big smile. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription op

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Ariful Hossain wrote: [your story] Liked your story. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedorap

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Ariful Hossain wrote: > And its good that ppl are trying out linux. Correct. -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Gu

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Tim wrote: > If I were advising someone about to try Linux which one to try, my > response would be similar:  Pick one that you have good support for, > unless you're going to be able to fix all your problems by yourself. > Whether that be support from your frien

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > I suspect most people don't like labels being applied to them simply > because their opinions differ. May be! > I've not used Ubuntu in a while.  Can't quite get used to the "Debian" > way.  But, if I recall there was no additional "rpmfusi

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > Yeah, there is.  The *buntu folks use mediabuntu, and there is a > similarly-named repo for Debian. Okay, but no idea of Ubuntu! -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > ROTFL  That's a good question  I'll leave it up to the > imagination.  :-) Was it a good question!! -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: FC13 Connect to DD-WRT WPA2

2010-07-25 Thread fred smith
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 01:53:42AM -0400, binary...@comcast.net wrote: > FC13 > Anyone using DD-WRT and connecting with FC13 and WPA2 ? Yes, I am. > > What is Maxium character size used on WPA2 . Don't know what you mean. maximum character size > I have been all over the DD-WRT Wiki a

Re: FC13 Connect to DD-WRT WPA2

2010-07-25 Thread fred smith
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 07:21:40AM +, JB wrote: > comcast.net> writes: > > > > > FC13 > > Anyone using DD-WRT and connecting with FC13 and WPA2 ? > > > > What is Maxium character size used on WPA2 . > > > > I have been all over the DD-WRT Wiki and can't find that info. > Hi, > is that w

fedora13 - unable to boot

2010-07-25 Thread Sriranga(77yrsold)
after fixmbr using Winxp tried to re- install fedora 13 successfully installation completed with direction to reboot. After removing DVD(fedora13) tried to reboot. But windows menu shows Winxp and ubuntu but not showed Fedora. After booting I never get a usual screen for FEdora12 - where it says

Re: FC13 Connect to DD-WRT WPA2

2010-07-25 Thread binarynut
On 07/25/2010 08:43 AM, fred smith wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 07:21:40AM +, JB wrote: >> comcast.net> writes: >> >>>FC13 >>> Anyone using DD-WRT and connecting with FC13 and WPA2 ? >>> >>> What is Maxium character size used on WPA2 . >>> >>> I have been all over the DD-WRT Wiki

Re: Bottom posting in Gmail [Was:Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...]

2010-07-25 Thread J S
uh what's this bottom-posting activity? if i build a barbed-wire fence, should I use bottom-posting? and what should I change of my toiletries? sign of the times, i suppose. take back this G-Mail; take back Joe Piscapo-- give 'em all some place to go. greasemonkey hmph! oh-- is this an op

Re: sun jdk vs java-1.6.0-openjdk

2010-07-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/25/2010 01:06 AM, Jonathan Beatty wrote: > >However, I am just now beginning Java programming and I am wondering >> if there is any substantial difference between java-1.6.0-openjdk and >> the sun jdk. > > As a beginning programmer, no. The differences are highly technical in nature

udev rule/permissions question

2010-07-25 Thread Hiisi
Dear users! I need udev to make /dev/mymodem symlink when USB-modem is plugged in. So, I have created this: cat /etc/udev/rules.d/95-huawei-e15150.rules SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{serial}==":00:03.3", SYMLINK+="mymodem" GROUP="dialout" Now when modem is plugged in the symlink /dev/mymodem is crea

Re: F13: Missing software update notifications

2010-07-25 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 07/24/2010 11:36 AM, JB wrote: > Roger K. Wells saic.com> writes: > >> ... > A message from the maintainer of PackageKit - fix on its way next week. > JB thanks for letting us know > > > > > > -- Roger Wells, P.E. SAIC 221 Third St Newport, RI 02840 401-847-4210 (voice) 401-849-1585 (fax

Re: fedora13 - unable to boot

2010-07-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:18:27 +0530, Sriranga(77yrsold) wrote: > after fixmbr using Winxp tried to re- install fedora 13 successfully > installation completed with direction to reboot. After removing > DVD(fedora13) tried to reboot. But windows menu shows Winxp and ubuntu but > not showed Fedora.

Re: Accessing your gnome (ssh) keyring from outside the Desktop session

2010-07-25 Thread Philip Prindeville
On 7/24/10 7:12 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Philip A. Prindeville > wrote: >> I normally leave a Gnome session running on my build machine for months >> at a time, but don't always work directly on that machine (at it's >> keyboard and monitor). >> >> Someti

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-25 Thread Les
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 05:34 +0600, Ariful Hossain wrote: > My employer's journal for > > CxO types has an article I just wrote on this, where I detail why I > > believe this is true. I'm happy to send you a copy off-line if you > like. > > It's a good read, and definitely clarifies these points in

Re: Accessing your gnome (ssh) keyring from outside the Desktop session

2010-07-25 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/25/2010 01:54 PM, Philip Prindeville wrote: >> >> seahorse ought to help you with this. >> > > Ok, I'll give it a look. But in general, just as X runs xinit.rc or > .xsessionrc on startup, does Gnome desktop have a startup and exit script it > runs? I need to bracket all of the "Startup

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Robert Myers
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > The only sin that we never forgive in each other is a difference in > opinion. Public opinion is a second conscience. Opinion is the main > thing which does harm or good in the world.

Firewall not getting displayed

2010-07-25 Thread JB
Parshwa Murdia gmail.com> writes: > ... > > So it is the python app system-config-firewall that fails. > Well, I installed a fresh F11, it is up to date. Everything I described to you throughout the thread (I worked with F13 at that time) is valid for F11 as well. The firewall is OK. As I menti

firefox youtube cookie fix

2010-07-25 Thread Frank Cox
I keep the "accept cookies from sites" option un-checked in my Firefox preferences and maintain a (short) list of websites that I allow cookies from. Even though I have "allow for session" set for www.youtube.com, it still comes up with "An error occurred" when I try to play a video. If I check "

bt keyboard at start up?

2010-07-25 Thread JB
Morgan Read read.org.nz> writes: > > Hello Folks > > I've just installed f12 (from centos5.5) and I'm puzzled at where global > bt config is now? > ... > Does anyone know where to enter a device to connect at start up now? > The gnome bt panel applet seems to work fine on a per login basis, but

Re: fedora13 - unable to boot

2010-07-25 Thread Nelson Strother
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Sriranga(77yrsold) wrote: >  after fixmbr using Winxp tried  to re- install fedora 13 successfully > installation completed with direction to reboot. After removing > DVD(fedora13) tried to reboot. But windows menu shows Winxp and ubuntu but > not showed Fedora.

Re: udev rule/permissions question

2010-07-25 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 07/25/2010 11:09 AM, Hiisi wrote: > Dear users! > I need udev to make /dev/mymodem symlink when USB-modem is plugged in. > So, I have created this: > cat /etc/udev/rules.d/95-huawei-e15150.rules > SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{serial}==":00:03.3", SYMLINK+="mymodem" > GROUP="dialout" > > Now when

Re: system-config-display issue Fedora13 RC3

2010-07-25 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 23:40 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 20:37 -0500, David A. Paredes Rios wrote: > > Yes, unfortunately im having the same issue, now using the final > > version of fedora 13... the error is: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/us

Re: bt keyboard at start up?

2010-07-25 Thread Morgan Read
On 26/07/10 06:57, JB wrote: > Morgan Read read.org.nz> writes: > >> >> Hello Folks >> >> I've just installed f12 (from centos5.5) and I'm puzzled at where global >> bt config is now? >> ... >> Does anyone know where to enter a device to connect at start up now? >> The gnome bt panel applet seems

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-25 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 10:57 -0700, Les wrote: > Thank you for the offer of your article. I would certainly love to read > it. I do strive to keep current, and the cost of books and periodicals > is not getting cheaper. My wife's favorite joke to me is about the cost > per pound of knowledge. S

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-25 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 05:34 +0600, Ariful Hossain wrote: > I dont understand cloud very well. I just have a ubuntu one account > which is supposed to be private cloud. > > I just wanna if all the applications run on servers then the general > users can be at submission and monopolistic business

Re: Firewall not getting displayed

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:45 PM, JB wrote: > # yum list *system-config-firewall* [result] When I run this, that is, [r...@localhost ~]# yum list *system-config-firewall* I get: Loaded plugins: protectbase, refresh-packagekit adobe-linux-i386 | 951 B

Re: fanboy?

2010-07-25 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > Actually, sir, the sin I am least willing to forgive is mob behavior > on the Internet.  Fanboys usually like to lead or at least to > encourage mobs.  I have yet actually to call you a fanboy, which is a > very insulting label, but, if you

Re: VM Manager, DHCP, and KVM

2010-07-25 Thread Alex
Hi, > I have mine setup the way you want. (No Windows though) > I set up reserved 192.xxx.xxx.xxx with names\macs' in the Hardware Router. What is the Hardware Router you are referring to? Is that an application, or do you mean your actual router? > I set up a br0 in the VM Host, Do you mean us

Fedora13 snapshot broken?

2010-07-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Before I put in a CZ entry, in GNOME is the screen shot program broken? When I select "select the current window" it picks the whole root window instead of the current window. Running an Intel i9125 chipset in VESA mode (the Intel drivers don't work), 1280x1024 (why would that matter?) and te

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-25 Thread g
Gene Heskett wrote: > If it was still a virgin at 4 months, what exactly was that ISP's name (and > problem)? his isp knew he worked with honey pot group and did not want an open system on their network. would not have been good for them if someone broke in and put it to use. > FWIW, I do not

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:25:50 pm g did opine: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > If it was still a virgin at 4 months, what exactly was that ISP's name > > (and problem)? > > his isp knew he worked with honey pot group and did not want an open > system on their network. would not have been good

Re: FC13 Connect to DD-WRT WPA2

2010-07-25 Thread Darr
On Sunday, 25 July, 2010 @12:43 zulu, fred smith scribed: > Ah. on the guess that that is what the OP is asking about, FYI > I'm using a 63-character WPA2 shared key and it works fine. 8-chars is WPA2's minimum Pre-Shared Key (PSK) size; 63 is the maximum. I have found between 15 and 20-characte

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-25 Thread g
Gene Heskett wrote: > Chuckle. More likely the honeypot would have 'used' the attacker. ;-) lol. could be. next time i see him, i will ask if he has tried any more and if he set up anything to log who "flies" were. i do know that when they get attacker address with honeypot, never mentioned h

selinux throwing incomprehensible errors when trying to run GoogleEardh

2010-07-25 Thread Claude Jones
It seems to be saying that the directory access requested requires labeling as usr_t, but its current type is usr_t -- it requires usr_t but it's currently labeled usr_t -- there appears to confusion here on the part of Selinux, no? I've tried applying the recommended fix, but the recommended f

Re: VM Manager, DHCP, and KVM

2010-07-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On 26/07/10 02:55, Alex wrote: > Hi, > >> I have mine setup the way you want. (No Windows though) >> I set up reserved 192.xxx.xxx.xxx with names\macs' in the Hardware Router. > > What is the Hardware Router you are referring to? Is that an > application, or do you mean your actual router? Sorry,

Re: Fedora13 snapshot broken?

2010-07-25 Thread Hiisi
2010/7/26 Bill Davidsen : >  Before I put in a CZ entry, in GNOME is the screen shot program > broken? When I select "select the current window" it picks the whole > root window instead of the current window. > > Running an Intel i9125 chipset in VESA mode (the Intel drivers don't > work), 1280x102