Re: F13 has reached "it rocks" status !

2010-07-07 Thread Linuxguy123
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 20:48 -0400, Mike Williams wrote: > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Linuxguy123 > wrote: > Just a quick note to say that F13 now rocks ! It works > really, really > well. Very fast, solid and slick. > > Keep up the good work, people

Re: Making things easier for lurkers (was Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers)

2010-07-07 Thread Joel Rees
Tim yahoo.com.au> writes: > > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 14:43 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > I'm thinking it would be nice to have the html archives set up so > > that, if you've logged in (as you do to change your mail settings), > > you could click a link in the post and the list server would shi

F12 updates having a slow week?

2010-07-07 Thread Joel Rees
Yesterday, and, I think, the day before, yum update said no updates. The day before that, and today, less than 10 MB, when I'm accustomed to 60M or 120M or so. Slow week for updates, or have I got a rogue mirror in my cache? Joel Rees -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 22:24 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> Anyway, if non-subscribers are not welcome, then I guess I'll just >> refrain from posting here just like everybody else, even when I'm >> asked to do it on Fedora's bugzilla.

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 20:13 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: >> Fact: the current system doesn't allow cross-posting > > Nothing in the current system prevents cross-posting. It's explicitly > discouraged by the list Guidelines, but as we

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:05:33 +0300, >  Felipe Contreras wrote: >> >> So if anything, Reply-To munging would cause more private mail go to >> the mailing list (i.e. I typed 'r' in mutt, not 'g', but the mail went >> to the ml!) > > That'

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> Prior to today the list was set to discard posts from non-members. >>> This setting was made before any of the current list admins were >>> present AFAIK.  I believe that sending a rejection is the more >>> courteo

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:15 PM, JD wrote: > Just to end this debate: you all must have seen this spam post. > If posting is opened to non-subscribers, this will multiply by thousands > and millions. Wrong; that spam mail is totally unrelated. Say moderation was enabled, and I was made moderator

Re: [389-users] Sabayon/Gentoo distribution of 389org

2010-07-07 Thread Fabio Erculiani
At last, I've been able to figure out where the pipe() problem stands. 389-admin is improperly using the cgi module. When using a multithreaded MPM (worker), mod_cgid had to be used. It happens that 389-admin needs apache (with worker MPM) and mod_cgi (and not mod_cgid). mod_cgid fork() itself from

Re: fedora 13 so many bugs

2010-07-07 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/2010 09:59 PM, john wendel wrote: > > I've done two installs using the X86 lxde live cd and both got an error > while reading the install cd (and claimed it must be corrupt). One box > is an Athlon X2 Dell system and the other is a homebuil

Re: fedora 13 so many bugs

2010-07-07 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 22:15 -0700, solarflow99 wrote: > Well, I used F-12 and it worked perfectly, so it is definitely > something to do with x86 F-13's anaconda. seems strange i'm the only > one to encounter this. I tried both with a HD and DVD install, the > media was tested and she shasum mat

Re: F13 has reached "it rocks" status !

2010-07-07 Thread n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
On 07/07/2010 08:15 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 20:48 -0400, Mike Williams wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Linuxguy123 >> wrote: >> Just a quick note to say that F13 now rocks ! It works >> really, really >> well. Very fast, solid and slick.

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 06Jul2010 09:47, Felipe Contreras wrote: > | But the actual steps you have to do are different depending on the > | list manager; majordomo is different than mailman. > > So? It is not _very_ different. It is. Try it. > | > It serves t

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Michal
Things are fine as they are. Most other lists work the same way. If someone doesn't want to subscribe as they only want to ask one question, then are not missed as most questions can be answered by actually doing a bit of digging, which a lot of users on this list do not do. Also, if they find

Re: Missing ephiphany plugin?

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 22:09:31 -0400 Steve Blackwell wrote: > I think I'm missing a plugin or two for ephiphany. > > After upgrading from F11->F12 some web pages display blank areas where > (presumably) a picture should be. An example is > > http://www.licklibrary.com/classifieds_rolandad.aspx >

Re: Help me troubleshoot this problem

2010-07-07 Thread Rick Sewill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Having said the above, if you suspect an acpi or apic problem, the URL: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelCommonProblems says, "acpi=off is a big hammer, and if that works, narrowing down by trying pci=noacpi instead may yie

Re: no sound on F11, F12 and now F13 but sound on Omega 12 live??? wtf??

2010-07-07 Thread Rick Sewill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/2010 10:38 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Rick Sewill wrote: >> On 07/05/2010 10:23 PM, Rick Sewill wrote: > . >> I am wondering if OSS is enabled on your system. >> >> Please look for things related to OSS in >> /etc/modprobe.conf (if it exists)

Re: fedora 13 so many bugs

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:15 AM, solarflow99 wrote: > > > > Well, I used F-12 and it worked perfectly, so it is definitely > something to do with x86 F-13's anaconda. seems strange i'm the only > one to encounter this. I tried both with a HD and DVD install, the > media was tested and she shasum

Re: Making things easier for lurkers (was Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers)

2010-07-07 Thread Todd Zullinger
Joel Rees wrote: > Okay, the digest listing does give us the message-ID line from the > headers, so it shouldn't be too hard to maintain threading with a > little extra copy/paste. If your MUA doesn't provide a way to set > arbitrary headers, though, that won't work after all. If you use the MIME

Re: F12 updates having a slow week?

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:42:52 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > Yesterday, and, I think, the day before, yum update said no updates. > > The day before that, and today, less than 10 MB, when I'm accustomed > to 60M or 120M or so. > > Slow week for updates, or have I got a rogue mirror in my cache? > > Jo

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Todd Zullinger
Felipe Contreras wrote: > At least you can remove the "Your message to $foo awaits moderator > approval" automatic reply; it's clearly a lie. I don't receive those messages when I post from a non-subscribed address. > For some reason when I receive mail from you I see: > reply-to: Community suppo

[389-users] Password History in a Replicated Environment

2010-07-07 Thread Gerrard Geldenhuis
Hi The documentation clearly states that password modification history is not replicated including account lockout counters. To me that seems a bit pointless to have if your servers are authenticating against a cluster of 4 machines. There is no guarantee that next time when you change your pass

Re: no sound on F11, F12 and now F13 but sound on Omega 12 live??? wtf??

2010-07-07 Thread Rick Sewill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On a different track, again to help the original poster. In other messages on this thread, it sounded like the original poster was using a driver, ens1370, which some people thought was suspect. Is there a tool that can talk directly to the driver,

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Felipe Contreras wrote: >> >> For some reason when I receive mail from you I see: >> reply-to: Community support for Fedora users >> , users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > It must be your mail client or something along the way.  That's not > the

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 13:02:37 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > Who are those mythical creatures that don't know about "reply to all"? > I keep hearing about them, but as far as I know everybody that knows > how to send email knows to send mail to more than one recipient, which > requires k

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 15:44:24 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > > Including plenty of people who explicitly ask not to be personally CCed, > > yea, even to the point of putting such a request at the top of _every_ > > post they make. > > *Some* nut-jobs might not like to be Cc'ed. You stil

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 10:41:20 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I have seen people ask about this on other lists (not related to Fedora) > where I don't do reply munging. That's the real key to the problem - so many lists do it so many different ways that it is hard to keep track of what to do on any

Re: fedora 13 so many bugs

2010-07-07 Thread solarflow99
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:15 AM, solarflow99 wrote: >> >> >> >> Well, I used F-12 and it worked perfectly, so it is definitely >> something to do with x86 F-13's anaconda.  seems strange i'm the only >> one to encounter this.  I tried both with

I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Linuxguy123
I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf Can anyone else ? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Alan Holt
Just try Adobe Reader for Linux if you have some problems with Linux based PDF reader 2010/7/7 Linuxguy123 > > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicyc

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 07/07/2010 01:01 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf > > Can anyone else ? It loads for me in Evince,

Re: Making things easier for lurkers (was Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers)

2010-07-07 Thread Darr
On Wednesday, 07 July, 2010 @ 05:43 zulu, Joel Rees scribed: > Okay, the digest listing does give us the message-ID line from > the headers, so it shouldn't be too hard to maintain threading > with a little extra copy/paste. If your MUA doesn't provide a > way to set arbitrary headers, though, th

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 07 July 2010 10:01 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf > > Can anyone else ? > I see it fin

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Darr
On Wednesday, 07 July, 2010 @ 10:19 zulu, Felipe Contreras scribed: > Wrong; that spam mail is totally unrelated. > > Say moderation was enabled, and I was made moderator *today*. Would > any extra spam reach your inbox? No. > > *I* (the moderator) would have to approve it first. If I'm bad at m

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 July 2010, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: >On 07/07/2010 01:01 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: >> I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based >> PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. >> >> http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_p >>

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Joachim Backes
On 07/07/10 19:01, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf > > Can anyone else ? > > Thanks > Yes, I can, u

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Joachim Backes
On 07/07/10 19:06, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > On 07/07/2010 01:01 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: >> >> I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based >> PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. >> >> http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 13:20 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 July 2010, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > >On 07/07/2010 01:01 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > >> PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > >> > >> http://w

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 19:25 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 07/07/10 19:01, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 19:28 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > I tested evince, it's really slow, but acroread will open it very > fast! Try scaling to 200% or more to see some detail. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.f

Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers

2010-07-07 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tom H wrote: > You (Todd) and others have the following: > from Felipe Contreras > reply-to Community support for Fedora users > > toCommunity support for Fedora users > date Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:10 AM > subject Re: Bug in mailing lists; unfriendly to non-subscribers > mailing

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 20:03 +0300, Alan Holt wrote: > Just try Adobe Reader for Linux if you have some problems with Linux > based PDF reader I did. $ yum list \*AdobeReader\* Installed Packages AdobeReader_enu.i486 9.3.2-1 @adobe-linux-i386 -- users

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 07/07/2010 10:01 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf > > Can anyone else ? > > Thanks > Okular takes

Re: Help me troubleshoot this problem

2010-07-07 Thread Darr
>> Question showing my ignorance of what acpi is. If pci=noacpi works >> or does not work, what clues is that giving me? >> > > I didn't respond earlier because we've reached my level of ignorance > too. ACPI is the successor/combination of plug & play, advanced power management, et al... If

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Dale J. Chatham
fc13 x86_64 with acroread, works fine. It's a large PDF with lots of detail, thus kinda slow. On 07/07/2010 12:01 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engin

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 07/07/2010 10:36 AM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >On 07/07/2010 10:01 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based >> PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. >> >> http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathw

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Roger K. Wells
On 07/07/2010 01:03 PM, Alan Holt wrote: Just try Adobe Reader for Linux if you have some problems with Linux based PDF reader 2010/7/7 Linuxguy123 > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based PDF reader. They all seem to lock

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 07/07/2010 06:01 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf > > Can anyone else ? > > Thanks > I tried Googl

Re: Chrome crashes F13

2010-07-07 Thread Steven Stern
On 07/01/2010 08:13 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > I can reliably cause my F13 system to crash by browsing the web in > Chrome (from the Google repository). > > The scenario is (1) start chrome and (2) start normal browsing behavior. > Pretty soon, I get DNS timeouts and the system load applet shows the

Re: F12 updates having a slow week?

2010-07-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:42:52 +0900 > Joel Rees wrote: > >> Yesterday, and, I think, the day before, yum update said no updates. >> >> The day before that, and today, less than 10 MB, when I'm accustomed >> to 60M or 120M or so. >> >> Slow we

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread JD
On 07/07/2010 10:29 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 19:25 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: >> On 07/07/10 19:01, Linuxguy123 wrote: >>> I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based >>> PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. >>> >>> http://www.calgary.ca/docgall

flash

2010-07-07 Thread solarflow99
What is the recommended flash player these days? I tried with gnash, and its still not working right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:01 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf > > Can anyone else ? It takes a whi

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:01 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: >> I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based >> PDF reader.  They all seem to lock up. >> >> http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_

Spam in 'Unmatched' folder no longer being removed when marked junk ?!?

2010-07-07 Thread William Case
Hi; Just virgin installed Fedora 13 with Evolution 2.20.3 upgrade. Bogofilter s on. Spam in 'Unmatched' folder no longer being removed when marked junk. A copy then appears in Junk folder. Deleting the spam in 'Unmatched' deletes it from the 'Junk' folder as well. Is anybody else experiencing t

[389-users] Limiting access to specific hosts.

2010-07-07 Thread Fairchild, Anthony
Hello, I have gotten 389 directory up and running and am beginning to add users, but would like to know how to restrict a user to only logging in to a specific host or a group of hosts. Could anybody point me to some documentation on this? I don't seem to be having much luck finding it through

Getting S/PDIF output working

2010-07-07 Thread Alan Nicoll
PROBLEM: No sound coming out of my Denon Receiver that is hooked to my pc via optical cable connected to the S/PDIF port. If I set the system up to output to speakers connected to the green port I can get sound. SYSTEM: Athlon 64x2 processor ASUS M4A78L-M motherboard [r...@nn nck]# cat /proc/asou

Re: flash

2010-07-07 Thread JD
On 07/07/2010 12:06 PM, solarflow99 wrote: > What is the recommended flash player these days? I tried with gnash, > and its still not working right. None of them will work perfectly, but so far, the Adobe flash player plugin seems to work ok. On rare occasions, it crashes in the browser. -- use

Re: Getting S/PDIF output working

2010-07-07 Thread JD
On 07/07/2010 12:51 PM, Alan Nicoll wrote: > PROBLEM: No sound coming out of my Denon Receiver that is hooked to my > pc via optical cable connected to the S/PDIF port. If I set the > system up to output to speakers connected to the green port I can get > sound. > > SYSTEM: > Athlon 64x2 proc

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:01 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bicycle_pathways_map.pdf > > Can anyone else ? > > Thanks >

Re: Help me troubleshoot this problem

2010-07-07 Thread Andrew Robinson
On 07/07/2010 01:47 PM, Darr wrote: >>> Question showing my ignorance of what acpi is. If pci=noacpi works >>> or does not work, what clues is that giving me? >>> >> >> I didn't respond earlier because we've reached my level of ignorance >> too. > > > ACPI is the successor/combination of plug& pla

Re: nvidia driver issues -- SOLVED

2010-07-07 Thread Gerhard Magnus
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 17:35 -0400, Mauriat Miranda wrote: > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Gerhard Magnus wrote: > Sadly the proprietary nvidia driver is a mess. > > The best answer to all your questions is: Try and see. If you don't > have problems then you're fine. > > > QUESTION: Google te

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 10:36:49 -0700 Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 07/07/2010 10:01 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > I can't seem to open this file and zoom in on it with any Linux based > > PDF reader. They all seem to lock up. > > > > http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/engineering_services/emaps/bic

The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
I preupgraded from F-12 to F-13 today, and it nearly all went well. But I found the long periods when nothing seemed to be happening off-putting, to put it mildly. It spent 30-60 minutes "searching for storage" - what is that about? I assumed the program had hung, but I was watching the World Cup

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/08/2010 07:22 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I preupgraded from F-12 to F-13 today, > and it nearly all went well. > But I found the long periods when nothing seemed to be happening > off-putting, to put it mildly. > > It spent 30-60 minutes "searching for storage" - > what is that about? > I as

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 7/7/10, Timothy Murphy wrote: > From: Timothy Murphy > Subject: The quietness of preupgrade > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 4:22 PM > > I preupgraded from F-12 to F-13 today, > and it nearly all went well. > But I found the long periods when no

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/08/2010 08:37 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > I assume you will fill a RFE (Request for Enhancement)? :-) :-) > > File, file, file. Native English speakers have PEBKAC too -- QOTD: "It's been real and it's been fun, but it hasn't been real fun." 葛斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段 signature.asc Desc

Generating modprobe files

2010-07-07 Thread Alex
Hi, What is the procedure or process to regenerate the /etc/modprobe.d files, particularly the ones that define the module for the ethernet drivers? I'd like to generate the aliases for all the modules that are currently loaded on the system, so they are loaded automatically on the next boot. Th

Re: Printing problem on FC13

2010-07-07 Thread Alex
Hi, I thought it might be worth reporting that the recent slew of printing updates has not fixed the problem with the Brother HL-5070N driver. >> I know that you now have your printer working, but I'd be very grateful >> if you could re-visit this and have another go at getting >> troubleshooting

Re: Spam in 'Unmatched' folder - [SORRY WRONG LIST]

2010-07-07 Thread William Case
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 15:22 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi; > > Just virgin installed Fedora 13 with Evolution 2.20.3 upgrade. > Bogofilter s on. Spam in 'Unmatched' folder no longer being removed > when marked junk. A copy then appears in Junk folder. Deleting the spam > in 'Unmatched' deletes

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Dick Roark
Instead of trying to open the link, download the file and open that. It worked for me. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Thomas Taylor wrote: > On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 10:36:49 -0700 > Konstantin Svist wrote: > > > On 07/07/2010 10:01 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > I can't seem to open this file an

Floating point exception (core dumped) when exec busybox in Fedora 13

2010-07-07 Thread Jerry Wang
the busybox is 1.16.2, build on Fedora 13 as static linked. It results floating point exception when I exec it as: [jer...@localhost busybox-1.16.2]$ ./busybox ping www.google.com Floating point exception (core dumped) [jer...@localhost busybox-1.16.2]$ rpm -qa | grep gcc gcc-c++-4.4.4-10.fc13.i68

Re: Generating modprobe files

2010-07-07 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 7/7/10, Alex wrote: > From: Alex > Subject: Generating modprobe files > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 5:45 PM > Hi, > > What is the procedure or process to regenerate the > /etc/modprobe.d > files, particularly the ones that define the

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > It really would be helpful if developers could make sure > that some kind of message, even if it is just a row of dots, > comes up from time to time. > The most general response to your request would appear to require violation of the Hal

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 21:56 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Timothy Murphy > wrote: > > It really would be helpful if developers could make sure > that some kind of message, even if it is just a row of dots, > comes up from time to time

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 21:56 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: > > > > If some poor soul at Microsoft couldn't deliver a version of Vista > > that reassured Steve Ballmer (who allegedly throws furniture) that > > wonderful new Vista was actually doing

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 21:56 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: > > It really would be helpful if developers could make sure > > that some kind of message, even if it is just a row of dots, > > comes up from time to time. > > > > The most general response to your request would appear to require > violation

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It depends on what you mean by "hung". If we're talking about "in an > unforeseen state caused by a bug" then of course the HT prevents > detecting this reliably. However in this case I think the OP means > something more ordinary, "no

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/08/2010 11:24 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > If you think you know what you are talking about, perhaps you would > consider a fixed-fee contract on a perpetual motion machine. > > From a practical point of view, all possible states of a program > cannot be examined and tested. If you want to thin

Re: I need a PDF reader that will open this...

2010-07-07 Thread Darr
On Wednesday, 07 July, 2010 @17:30 zulu, Linuxguy123 scribed: > Try scaling to 200% or more to see some detail. In adobe reader I zoomed it to 300% then paged down a couple times + scrolled over, opened the 'about' window and took this screen shot: http://to.ly/5rzs If you don't have the adobe r

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/08/2010 11:24 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > > If you think you know what you are talking about, perhaps you would > > consider a fixed-fee contract on a perpetual motion machine. > > > > From a practical point of view, all possible states of

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 23:24 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: > > It depends on what you mean by "hung". If we're talking about "in an > > unforeseen state caused by a bug" then of course the HT prevents > > detecting this reliably. However in this case I think the OP means > > something more ordinary, "n

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/08/2010 11:39 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > > I hope you realize that you lose a lot of credibility when you stray > from discussing technical matters to sarcasm in order to debase a > fellow > poster. > > > A veteran of many Internet wars, I am long past worrying about what > peo

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/08/2010 11:39 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > > > > I hope you realize that you lose a lot of credibility when you stray > > from discussing technical matters to sarcasm in order to debase a > > fellow > > poster. > > > > > > A

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 23:24 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: > > > It depends on what you mean by "hung". If we're talking about "in an > > > unforeseen state caused by a bug" then of course the HT prevents > > > detecting this reliably. Howe

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/08/2010 11:56 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > You don't know me any more than you know if there is extraterrestrial > life. I can, based on observations and other factors, speculate as to the chances of the existence of extraterrestrial life. I can suspect that there is/is not extraterrestrial lif

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/08/2010 11:56 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > > You don't know me any more than you know if there is extraterrestrial > > life. > I can, based on observations and other factors, speculate as to the > chances of the existence of extraterrestrial

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 07/08/2010 11:56 AM, Robert Myers wrote: >> > You don't know me any more than you know if there is extraterrestrial >> > life. >> I can, based on observations and other factors, specu

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Christofer C. Bell < christofer.c.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >>> On 07/08/2010 11:56 AM, Robert Myers wrote: >>> > You don't know me any more than you know

how to play media files on NAS

2010-07-07 Thread Mick M.
Hi; I have set up a small NAS with multimedia files on it. I can read/write/delete fine. However if I want to play a file I run into problems. Kaffeine says: Cannot find input plugin for MRL "ftp://192.168.1.106/data/mick/COMBO%20MUSIC%20VIDEO/---MP4/Fish_Go_Deep_ft_Tracey_K_-__The_Cure___T

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 23:58 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: > > And perhaps you should share your wisdom with every programmer who's > > written an installer that shows progress reports. I'm sure they'll > be > > glad to know they're wasting their time. > > > > Of *course* you can try to imagine what t

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 23:58 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: > > > And perhaps you should share your wisdom with every programmer who's > > > written an installer that shows progress reports. I'm sure they'll > > be > > > glad to know they're

Re: how to play media files on NAS

2010-07-07 Thread Gregory Hosler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/08/2010 12:44 PM, Mick M. wrote: > Hi; > I have set up a small NAS with multimedia files on it. > I can read/write/delete fine. > However if I want to play a file I run into problems. > > Kaffeine says: > Cannot find input plugin for MRL > "f

Fedora 12 and Privoxy

2010-07-07 Thread Jason Turning
I just upgraded my laptop to Fedora 12, and now Privoxy is failing on bootup and has to be manually started. Anyone encountered this problem, and if so what was the fix? Thanks. Jason -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/08/2010 12:16 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Ed Greshko > wrote: > > On 07/08/2010 11:56 AM, Robert Myers wrote: > > You don't know me any more than you know if there is > extraterrestrial > > life. > I can, based

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > I did not criticize you. I made observations that were critical of your > approach. > > You *may* be right about "progress bars/dots" being of no value. I only > observed that you chose to use sarcasm to debase a fellow poster in your > a

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/08/2010 01:37 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > Mind your step, though. I ain't stupid. > So, you said "This is the end of our conversation"and you continue. It may not be "stupid" but it certainly does lack an end. -- Computer Science is merely the post-Turing decline in formal systems theo

Re: how to play media files on NAS

2010-07-07 Thread JD
On 07/07/2010 10:15 PM, Gregory Hosler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/08/2010 12:44 PM, Mick M. wrote: >> Hi; >>I have set up a small NAS with multimedia files on it. >> I can read/write/delete fine. >> However if I want to play a file I run into problems.

Re: The quietness of preupgrade

2010-07-07 Thread Robert Myers
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/08/2010 01:37 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > > Mind your step, though. I ain't stupid. > > > So, you said "This is the end of our conversation"and you continue. > It may not be "stupid" but it certainly does lack an end. > Oh, I'm a compl

Re: Fedora 12 and Privoxy

2010-07-07 Thread Natxo Asenjo
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Jason Turning wrote: > > I just upgraded my laptop to Fedora 12, and now Privoxy is failing on bootup > and has to be manually started. Anyone encountered this problem, and if so > what > was the fix? what does $/sbin/chkconfig --list privoxy tell you? It shoul

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