On 06/27/2011 06:17 PM, Craig White wrote:
> If you want to dance on the head of the pin suggesting that you never
> actually said what you clearly inferred, then so be it. What you
> specifically said...
>
No, you inferred. If anything, I implied. Even Cerebus the Aardvark
knew the difference
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 08:18 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Don't fall prey to Ed's Big Lie: I never corrected his grammar, spelling
> or syntax. I never acted as a Grammar Nazi. All I did was point out
> that proofreading his email would help avoid him from making errors in
> the future after *he c
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 21:22 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Well, I am one of the people who deliberately turn off the
> spell-checker in my mail client (KMail). Why? Because I often compose
> mails in non-English languages, sometimes mixing several languages in
> the same e-mail, etc. And it gets
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 19:14 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:
> I'm wondering if it will become, sometime in the future, possible to
> write an article in OpenOffice like I do in Microsoft Word where I can
> select the dictionary for only one word, if needed, and change
> languages.
No need to wait f
On 6/26/11 7:01 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Sure, but it's not possible to use them simultaneously, or have the machine
> decide which dictionary should be used for a given paragraph and switch to
> that one. Manually switching them is a pain, and just not worth the effort if
> I
> am mixing seve
On Monday 27 June 2011 00:51:56 Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/26/2011 01:22 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > Well, I am one of the people who deliberately turn off the spell-checker
> > in my mail client (KMail).
>
> Is it possible to install several dictionaries?
Sure, but it's not possible to use them
On 06/26/2011 05:26 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
> I did not see where you were a Grammar Nazi, and I have not considered
> you one. And you do bring alot of knowledge to this list. I would
> appreciate it if you chalk this one up to the eventual stupidity that
> some folks demonstrate, including my
On 6/26/11 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/26/2011 10:16 AM, James McKenzie wrote:
>> (and both of you are very valuable to the project and you both
>> have brought in a great deal of good information, now folks may question
>> it.)
> And, because of the way I've been flamed for something I didn't
On 06/26/2011 03:45 PM, charles zeitler wrote:
> some are. Esperanto is,& is also 100% phonetic.
So is Hebrew, except that there are some sounds that can be represented
by more than one letter. In fact, most people who are really familiar
with the language don't even bother with the "vowels,"
On 06/26/2011 01:22 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Well, I am one of the people who deliberately turn off the spell-checker in my
> mail client (KMail).
Is it possible to install several dictionaries?
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On 06/26/2011 10:16 AM, James McKenzie wrote:
> (and both of you are very valuable to the project and you both
> have brought in a great deal of good information, now folks may question
> it.)
And, because of the way I've been flamed for something I didn't do, I'm
seriously considering leaving th
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On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
>
> As a side note, given that my native language is 100% phonetic and spelling
> rules are trivialized to the point where spelling errors are indistinguishable
> from typographical
On Sunday 26 June 2011 17:31:27 Joe Zeff wrote:
> I also understand spelling issues; not just from dyslexic posters but
> from those who (like me) weren't properly taught as children. In my
> case, it took word processors with spelling checkers to teach me
> (mostly) how to spell, and I still depe
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 6:16 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
>
> It's called 'taking it off list' and that is where MOST of this thread
> should have been. Hey folks, if someone's posting bothers you, take it
> 'off list'. If someone publicly accuses you of something you did not
> do, then rebuff and
On 6/26/11 10:07 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, Ed Greshko wrote to Joe Zeff and us:
>
>> I don't think I ever accused you of anything. I simply took issue with
>> your unsolicited suggestion that I should proofread my messages. If I
>> recall correctly you indicated that readin
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, Ed Greshko wrote to Joe Zeff and us:
> I don't think I ever accused you of anything. I simply took issue with
> your unsolicited suggestion that I should proofread my messages. If I
> recall correctly you indicated that reading posts with poor English gave
> you pain.
There m
On 06/26/2011 12:31 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Even though the suggestion was made to Ed, not the gentleman from France?
If you don't see my point, you never will. Go back and read your own
replies and think about it. I hereby invoke closure on my participation...
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On 06/26/2011 09:15 AM, Gary Waters wrote:
> What got under my skin was the fact that your post was subsequent to Ed
> responding to a question posed by a gentleman from France.
Even though the suggestion was made to Ed, not the gentleman from France?
>
> I'd hate to see the international members
On 6/26/2011 11:22 AM, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> Enough. Grow up.
> -- cmg
Agreed,
Paul
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On 06/26/2011 12:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/26/2011 08:41 AM, Gary Waters wrote:
>> I read the thread from the beginning. Ed's reaction was the same as my
>> own.
>
> You found a polite suggestion offensive? Why? Seriously, I want to know.
What got under my skin was the fact that your post w
On 06/26/2011 08:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I simply reached what I feel is the logical conclusion. Don't correct
> ones mistakes or you may find yourself the recipient of unsolicited
> "help"
Go for it, if that's what floats your boat. I won't object, as long as
you're right, and if I disagree,
On 06/26/2011 08:41 AM, Gary Waters wrote:
> I read the thread from the beginning. Ed's reaction was the same as my
> own.
You found a polite suggestion offensive? Why? Seriously, I want to know.
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Joe Zeff wrote:
>On 06/26/2011 12:33 AM, Craig White wrote:
>> Personally I fail to see any distinctive difference whether
>> self-admitted or not, grammatical policing is a hostile activity
>> bordering on, if not completely bombastic behavior.
>
>Which is why I didn't do it, even though Ed Gres
On 06/26/2011 11:18 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Don't fall prey to Ed's Big Lie: I never corrected his grammar, spelling
> or syntax. I never acted as a Grammar Nazi. All I did was point out
> that proofreading his email
I read the thread from the beginning. Ed's reaction was the same as my
own. I si
On 06/26/2011 08:22 AM, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:10:15 -0700
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>
>> On 06/26/2011 12:33 AM, Craig White wrote:
>>> Personally I fail to see any distinctive difference whether
>>> self-admitted or not, grammatical policing is a hostile activity
>>> bordering o
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:10:15 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/26/2011 12:33 AM, Craig White wrote:
> > Personally I fail to see any distinctive difference whether
> > self-admitted or not, grammatical policing is a hostile activity
> > bordering on, if not completely bombastic behavior.
>
> Which i
On 06/26/2011 06:22 AM, Gary Waters wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 09:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> Which is why I don't normally comment on such things. Instead, if I see
>> that the message came from someplace where English is at best a second
>> language, I cut them extra slack.
>
> Extra slack? LOL!
Yes,
On 06/26/2011 12:33 AM, Craig White wrote:
> Personally I fail to see any distinctive difference whether
> self-admitted or not, grammatical policing is a hostile activity
> bordering on, if not completely bombastic behavior.
Which is why I didn't do it, even though Ed Greshko keeps falsely
accus
On 06/25/2011 09:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Which is why I don't normally comment on such things. Instead, if I see
> that the message came from someplace where English is at best a second
> language, I cut them extra slack.
Extra slack? LOL! How many bloody languages do you speak/write?
Personall
On 06/26/2011 03:33 PM, Craig White wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 13:40 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Yet, I guess it is good to know that as long as people make
>> grammatical
>> errors and spellings mistakes as long as they don't correct themselves
>> you'll keep quiet about it.
>
> sort of a
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 13:40 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Yet, I guess it is good to know that as long as people make
> grammatical
> errors and spellings mistakes as long as they don't correct themselves
> you'll keep quiet about it.
sort of a cowardly way to make a point - single out those who
On 06/26/2011 02:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I'm not looking to have the last word, but you do keep asking questions.
> If you'll stop asking, I'll have nothing to answer, will I?
Good point... Although I feel the second question, and maybe even the
first one, in my last message was rhetorical.
On 06/25/2011 11:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Now, would you like to get back our regularly scheduled programming or
> do you really need to have the last word.
I'm not looking to have the last word, but you do keep asking questions.
If you'll stop asking, I'll have nothing to answer, will I?
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On 06/26/2011 02:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 10:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Yet, I guess it is good to know that as long as people make grammatical
>> errors and spellings mistakes as long as they don't correct themselves
>> you'll keep quiet about it.
> Please note that *I'm* not the on
On 06/25/2011 10:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Yet, I guess it is good to know that as long as people make grammatical
> errors and spellings mistakes as long as they don't correct themselves
> you'll keep quiet about it.
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On 06/26/2011 07:14 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 03:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Well, now that you've established yourself as the "writer" on this list
>> and maybe the expert and arbiter of all things related to American
>> English (British English too?)
> For someone who didn't take offens
On 06/25/2011 05:06 PM, Craig White wrote:
> This of course doesn't even begin to cover the many who frequent this
> list for whom English is not their native language and might be put off
> by self-appointed jackasses defenders of grammatical correctness.
Which is why I don't normally comment on
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 16:14 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Go for it. Unlike some people I know (in person, that is) I don't
> consider myself perfect and I certainly make my share of mistakes. And,
> of course, you can't correct your mistakes if everybody's afraid to
> point them out.
this li
On 06/25/2011 03:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Well, now that you've established yourself as the "writer" on this list
> and maybe the expert and arbiter of all things related to American
> English (British English too?)
For someone who didn't take offense, you're getting surprisingly
belligerent, y
On 06/26/2011 06:16 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 02:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> So, you are suggesting I am a "poor" writer due to my writing which you
>> have judged?
> No. I'm saying that I have no way of knowing, other than what I see in
> your posts. And, for the record, much of your
On 06/25/2011 02:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> So, you are suggesting I am a "poor" writer due to my writing which you
> have judged?
No. I'm saying that I have no way of knowing, other than what I see in
your posts. And, for the record, much of your writing is excellent, as
the vicar said to the
On 06/26/2011 05:43 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 06/25/2011 02:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Are you suggesting that I am unaware of that?
>>
> Judging only by your writing, I've no idea.
So, you are suggesting I am a "poor" writer due to my writing which you
have judged?
>> Are you also aware that poi
On 06/25/2011 02:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Are you suggesting that I am unaware of that?
>
Judging only by your writing, I've no idea.
> Are you also aware that pointing out spelling errors and grammar errors
> of people on mailing lists has long been considered bad form?
Usually by people who
On 06/26/2011 03:55 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I was pointing out that a spelling checker can't catch everything
> because it doesn't know when you've used the wrong word but spelled it
> correctly. I am, among other things, a writer (not published yet, alas)
> and I find some of the poor spelling a
On 06/25/2011 12:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/26/2011 01:53 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> Have you considered poorfraeding your posts before sending them? It
>> will catch most of the things the spelling checker can't. HTH, HAND.
>
> What is your point?
I was pointing out that a spelling checker ca
On 06/26/2011 01:53 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Have you considered poorfraeding your posts before sending them? It
> will catch most of the things the spelling checker can't. HTH, HAND.
What is your point?
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On 06/25/2011 03:02 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Of course i meant yum Spell check strikes again.
Have you considered poorfraeding your posts before sending them? It
will catch most of the things the spelling checker can't. HTH, HAND.
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On 06/25/2011 06:55 PM, François Patte wrote:
> Le 25/06/2011 11:48, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> > "François Patte" wrote:
>
> >> evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686
>
> > OK, F14. I don't have that running, but what does
>
> > you whatprovides */libgnomebreakpad.so
>
> Not match!
>
I sort of that that wou
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Le 25/06/2011 11:48, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> "François Patte" wrote:
>
>> evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686
>
> OK, F14. I don't have that running, but what does
>
> you whatprovides */libgnomebreakpad.so
Not match!
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>evince-2.32.0-4.fc14.i686
OK, F14. I don't have that running, but what does
you whatprovides */libgnomebreakpad.so
return?
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Le 24/06/2011 10:36, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> On 06/24/2011 02:57 PM, François Patte wrote:
>> When launching evince, I get this warning:
>>
>> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so
>>
>>
>> Where to find this module?
>>
On 06/24/2011 02:57 PM, François Patte wrote:
>
> When launching evince, I get this warning:
>
> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so
>
>
> Where to find this module?
>
>
What version of Fedora and evince are you using? F15 doesn't seem to
have that module as "y
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When launching evince, I get this warning:
Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so
Where to find this module?
Thanks
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