Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2013 08:49, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> Am 11.06.2013 23:39, schrieb lee: >>> One question that just occurred to me when looking at [1]: Do I need to >>> do anything about grub? Yum says the version from Fedora 18 is >>> installed, so I should be fine? >> >> the grub-con

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2013 23:39, schrieb lee: > One question that just occurred to me when looking at [1]: Do I need to > do anything about grub? Yum says the version from Fedora 18 is > installed, so I should be fine? the grub-configuration abd grub itself in the MBR is usally not touch at upgrades which

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2013 00:41, schrieb lee: > For example, I know for sure that I never needed or wanted the package > "xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.6.2-6.fc18.x86_64", yet it is listed by > "package-cleanup --leaves --all". Why is this package installed, and > since I didn't install it, why does it remain installe

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2013 21:55, schrieb lee: >>> It seems so --- the question is why aren't such packages removed by yum >>> distro-sync? >> >> because it is not it's job to remove any package which is not >> found in the repos because you may have installed it manually >> >> it's job is to bring packages w

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
BTW, for some reason I don't seem to get your posts from the list. It could be some sort of dupe checking gnus does on my side, but I thought I should mention it just in case. Reindl Harald writes: > Am 12.06.2013 00:41, schrieb lee: >> For example, I know for sure that I never needed or wante

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Joe Zeff writes: > On 06/11/2013 03:41 PM, lee wrote: >> + There doesn't seem to be anything like aptitude Debian has that lets >> you view what packages there are, what is installed, etc.. I know >> there's some GUI gnome tool for that --- which, unfortunately, >> doesn't seem to

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.06.2013 23:39, schrieb lee: >> One question that just occurred to me when looking at [1]: Do I need to >> do anything about grub? Yum says the version from Fedora 18 is >> installed, so I should be fine? > > the grub-configuration abd grub itself in the MBR is usall

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/11/2013 03:41 PM, lee wrote: + There doesn't seem to be anything like aptitude Debian has that lets you view what packages there are, what is installed, etc.. I know there's some GUI gnome tool for that --- which, unfortunately, doesn't seem to even come close. I'm not usin

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.06.2013 21:55, schrieb lee: It seems so --- the question is why aren't such packages removed by yum distro-sync? >>> >>> because it is not it's job to remove any package which is not >>> found in the repos because you may have installed it manually >>> >>>

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.06.2013 01:15, schrieb lee:>> that is why i do "rm -rf > /var/cache/yum/*" since years >>> before dist-upgrades and after *every time* i used >>> "--releasever=" wich a changed param >> >> Sounds good, but I don't know if that might remove files which are still >> n

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2013 04:10, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: >>> | [root@yun etc]# yum list installed |grep fc17 >>> | NetworkManager-gtk.x86_64 1:0.9.6.4-3.fc17 installed >>> | [...] >>> ` >>> >>> For example, is this version of networkmanager-gtk in Fedora 18? >> >> there is no "net

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2013 01:43, schrieb lee:> Reindl Harald writes: >> distro-sync is supposed to upgrade/downgrade all packages to the exact >> versions in the online-repos and in case you had updates-testing >> enabled as example the way to go to revert this in a predictable way > > Ok, let's try this:

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2013 01:15, schrieb lee:>> that is why i do "rm -rf /var/cache/yum/*" since years >> before dist-upgrades and after *every time* i used >> "--releasever=" wich a changed param > > Sounds good, but I don't know if that might remove files which are still > needed... there are no files ne

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-11 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.06.2013 04:10, schrieb lee: >> Reindl Harald writes: | [root@yun etc]# yum list installed |grep fc17 | NetworkManager-gtk.x86_64 1:0.9.6.4-3.fc17 installed | [...] ` For example, is this version of networkmanager-gtk in Fe

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.06.2013 01:43, schrieb lee:> Reindl Harald > writes: >>> distro-sync is supposed to upgrade/downgrade all packages to the exact >>> versions in the online-repos and in case you had updates-testing >>> enabled as example the way to go to revert this in a predictable

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread lee
"T.C. Hollingsworth" writes: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:43 AM, lee wrote: >> "T.C. Hollingsworth" writes: >> >>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM, lee wrote: Ah hm, I've done the above and removed some other packages that don't seem to be needed anymore. Let me try cleandupes ... >>>

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 11 June 2013, lee sent: > Sounds good, but I don't know if that might remove files which are > still needed ... Nothing should need to be kept in the cache, if anything is needed in the future, it will be redownloaded. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.8.13-100.fc

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 10.06.2013 16:34, schrieb lee: >>> This is exactly what `yum distro-sync` is supposed to do. Figuring >>> out why it's unhappy is the first step to getting your system back >>> into working order. >> >> Maybe there's nothing to sync because yum figures this is Fedora

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread lee
Frank Murphy writes: > On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 22:29:37 +0200 > lee wrote: > > >> >> When I attempt remove these, yum wants to remove packages from 18 as >> well due to dependencies. Are there packages in 18 that depend on >> packages from 17, and why would that be? >> > > Not all pkgs marked *fc1

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 10.06.2013 16:45, schrieb Frank Murphy: >> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:43:10 +0200 >> lee wrote: >> d the fedora-release package seemed to fix the problem. >>> >>> Now when install a package, the package from 18 gets installed. >>> However, I have now the two directories, "

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread lee
Frank Murphy writes: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:43:10 +0200 > lee wrote: > d the fedora-release package seemed to fix the problem. >> >> Now when install a package, the package from 18 gets installed. >> However, I have now the two directories, "17" and "18", in >> /var/cache/yum/x86_64/. Shouldn

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:43 AM, lee wrote: > "T.C. Hollingsworth" writes: > >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM, lee wrote: >>> Ah hm, I've done the above and removed some other packages that don't >>> seem to be needed anymore. Let me try cleandupes ... >>> >>> Dupes are all gone now, it didn't

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.06.2013 16:45, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:43:10 +0200 > lee wrote: > d the fedora-release package seemed to fix the problem. >> >> Now when install a package, the package from 18 gets installed. >> However, I have now the two directories, "17" and "18", in >> /var/cache

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.06.2013 16:34, schrieb lee: >> This is exactly what `yum distro-sync` is supposed to do. Figuring >> out why it's unhappy is the first step to getting your system back >> into working order. > > Maybe there's nothing to sync because yum figures this is Fedora 18? distro-sync does not car

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 22:29:37 +0200 lee wrote: > > When I attempt remove these, yum wants to remove packages from 18 as > well due to dependencies. Are there packages in 18 that depend on > packages from 17, and why would that be? > Not all pkgs marked *fc17* are from Fedora 17, there can be a

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:43:10 +0200 lee wrote: d the fedora-release package seemed to fix the problem. > > Now when install a package, the package from 18 gets installed. > However, I have now the two directories, "17" and "18", in > /var/cache/yum/x86_64/. Shouldn't that somehow be cleaned? > I

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread lee
"T.C. Hollingsworth" writes: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM, lee wrote: >> Ah hm, I've done the above and removed some other packages that don't >> seem to be needed anymore. Let me try cleandupes ... >> >> Dupes are all gone now, it didn't find any. I have orphaned packages: > > > I wouldn

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-10 Thread lee
"T.C. Hollingsworth" writes: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM, lee wrote: >> Same result, no packages marked for sync. It doesn't do anything and >> the packages from 17 remain installed along with the ones from 18. > > Hmm, maybe your repository configuration is still unhappy? What does > `y

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-09 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM, lee wrote: > Ah hm, I've done the above and removed some other packages that don't > seem to be needed anymore. Let me try cleandupes ... > > Dupes are all gone now, it didn't find any. I have orphaned packages: I wouldn't worry about these. A package being "or

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-09 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM, lee wrote: > Same result, no packages marked for sync. It doesn't do anything and > the packages from 17 remain installed along with the ones from 18. Hmm, maybe your repository configuration is still unhappy? What does `yum repolist` say? Also, you could try a

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-09 Thread lee
Kevin Fenzi writes: > On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:20:30 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Hmm, I could do >> >> package-cleanup --dupes | grep fc17 | xargs yum remove >> >> ... but how do I know if essential packages are being removed that >> way? At least what yum says looks good as in that there don't seem

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 09 Jun 2013 21:20:30 +0200 lee wrote: > Hmm, I could do > > package-cleanup --dupes | grep fc17 | xargs yum remove > > ... but how do I know if essential packages are being removed that > way? At least what yum says looks good as in that there don't seem to > be any packages from 18 rem

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-09 Thread lee
lee writes: > Frank Murphy writes: > >> On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 22:51:52 +0200 >> lee wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> running the update from 17 to 18 failed after going 67% through, >>> please see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-09 Thread lee
Frank Murphy writes: > On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 22:51:52 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> running the update from 17 to 18 failed after going 67% through, >> please see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972358 . >> >> What can I do now

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 22:51:52 +0200 lee wrote: > Hi, > > running the update from 17 to 18 failed after going 67% through, > please see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972358 . > > What can I do now so I'm not stuck with a mixture of 17 and 18? > >

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 22:51:52 +0200 lee wrote: > Hi, > > running the update from 17 to 18 failed after going 67% through, > please see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972358 . > > What can I do now so I'm not stuck with a mixture of 17 and 18? > > R

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-09 Thread lee
Joe Zeff writes: > On 06/08/2013 01:51 PM, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> running the update from 17 to 18 failed after going 67% through, please >> see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972358 . >> >> What can I do now so I'm not stuck with a mi

Re: update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 06/08/2013 01:51 PM, lee wrote: Hi, running the update from 17 to 18 failed after going 67% through, please see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972358 . What can I do now so I'm not stuck with a mixture of 17 and 18? Have you tried yum-complete-transaction? If that do

update from 17 to 18 failed

2013-06-08 Thread lee
Hi, running the update from 17 to 18 failed after going 67% through, please see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972358 . What can I do now so I'm not stuck with a mixture of 17 and 18? -- Fedora 17.5 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or c