(on Dec. 24, I wrote)
> ... I need to try/test this [dnfdragora] more. Now I think it's
> just doing whatever I last asked when I last exited. ...
I was correct. For example, if I set it to show "Groups", "Not
installed", "in names", search string blank, then click "Quit", then the
next time I
(Joe said)
> When you're finished, you need to make sure that you exit,
> not just minimize it to an icon on your panel.
1. It's listing updates immediately upon launch.
2. I clicked the "Quit" button, not just minimize.
I need to try/test this more. Now I think it's just doing whatever I
last
On 12/24/2018 10:48 AM, home user via users wrote:
(Patrick said)
> dnf install dnfdragora
Thank-you, Patrick.
done.
It works, but I notice that this, too, automatically checks for updates.
When you're finished, you need to make sure that you exit, not just
minimize it to an icon on your pane
(Patrick said)
> dnf install dnfdragora
Thank-you, Patrick.
done.
It works, but I notice that this, too, automatically checks for updates.
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On Sun, 2018-12-23 at 16:07 -0700, home user via users wrote:
> (Ed asked)
> > What desktop do you use? KDE has dnfdragora for package management.
>
> I use Gnome. I have quite a few KDE apps/tools on this system, I assume
> all by default. I use KSysGuard routinely in Gnome, and K3b in Gnome
The issues of the thread appear to be solved as best as can be hoped
for. Apparently like Rick Stevens in another thread, I don't like
automatic updates or automatic checks for updates. Now, I'm no longer
being asked for a go-ahead to update things. So as best as I can
determine, no automati
(Ed asked)
> What desktop do you use? KDE has dnfdragora for package management.
I use Gnome. I have quite a few KDE apps/tools on this system, I assume
all by default. I use KSysGuard routinely in Gnome, and K3b in Gnome
semi-annually. I used KDE System Settings in Gnome earlier this month.
> The problem is that now it looks to me like
> apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without
> also checking for updates. Am I correct? How do I make these tools
> useful for searching without them checking for updates?
What desktop do you use? KDE has dnfdragor
On 12/22/18 2:54 PM, home user via users wrote:
(Samuel suggested)
systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer
I did that, rebooted, and tried
dnf upgrade --refresh
The command was much slower starting and displaying what would be
patched. But it looked like it worked. I did not continue with the
On 12/22/18 10:50 AM, home user via users wrote:
These confirm what Ed and Samuel say about apper and Software being
dependent on PackageKit. The problem is that now it looks to me like
apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without
also checking for updates. Am I co
Now responding to the dnf part...
(Samuel suggested)
systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer
I did that, rebooted, and tried
dnf upgrade --refresh
The command was much slower starting and displaying what would be
patched. But it looked like it worked. I did not continue with the
patches, as
I'm finally back to this. Here, I'll respond to the apper part.
(Ed said)
> apper is packagekit based. ... This is the first time I've
> seen you mention apper.
(and Samuel said)
> Right. ... anything that depends on PackageKit won't work. ...
> dnf does not require PackageKit, but Apper and Gno
On 12/20/18 7:50 PM, home user via users wrote:
Sometime after saying that what Ed suggested and that it worked. I
discovered that it was overkill. I launched "apper", and it failed
because "PackageKit" was not running. Having read the postings since my
Dec. 18 message...
Right. As I menti
On 12/21/18 11:50 AM, home user via users wrote:
> (replying to several)
>
> Sometime after saying that what Ed suggested and that it worked. I discovered
> that it
> was overkill. I launched "apper", and it failed because "PackageKit" was not
> running.
> Having read the postings since my Dec.
(replying to several)
Sometime after saying that what Ed suggested and that it worked. I
discovered that it was overkill. I launched "apper", and it failed
because "PackageKit" was not running. Having read the postings since my
Dec. 18 message...
(Tom said)
> But as I discovered, if you di
On 12/18/18 4:17 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
systemctl stop dnf-makecache.timer
might be a good idea if you don't want to reboot.
Or run "systemctl disable --now dnf-makecache.timer" to do both at once.
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On 12/18/2018 04:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 12/18/18 3:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
By "cron job" don't you mean dnf-makecache.timer in systemd?
Oh right, it moved to that. So the command to stop it would be:
systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer
But that's only necessary if you're concerned ab
On 12/18/18 3:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
By "cron job" don't you mean dnf-makecache.timer in systemd?
Oh right, it moved to that. So the command to stop it would be:
systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer
But that's only necessary if you're concerned about internet data limits.
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On 12/19/18 4:29 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 12/18/18 12:25 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:13:45 -0800
>> Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>> This turns off the automatic checking and downloading of updates by
>>> Gnome Software and any other PackageKit based system. But there is also
>>> a c
On 12/18/18 12:25 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:13:45 -0800
Samuel Sieb wrote:
This turns off the automatic checking and downloading of updates by
Gnome Software and any other PackageKit based system. But there is also
a cron job for dnf that updates the metadata regularly (dail
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:13:45 -0800
Samuel Sieb wrote:
> This turns off the automatic checking and downloading of updates by
> Gnome Software and any other PackageKit based system. But there is also
> a cron job for dnf that updates the metadata regularly (daily?). If
> that's a concern for yo
On 12/18/18 12:09 PM, home user via users wrote:
I hope these changes also turn off automatic *checking* for updates. I
don't know how to see if that is the case.
This turns off the automatic checking and downloading of updates by
Gnome Software and any other PackageKit based system. But the
My apologies for the delay in trying these. I've been swampd. You
know, gotta get the daily fix of "The Rifleman", "Hogan's Heroes", and
"Rush to the Dead Summer". :)
Ed suggested
> gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false
and
> ... "systemctl mask packagekit.service" is a one
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 20:33:17 -0700
home user via users wrote:
> Thank-you for trying to help.
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the email addresses of the developers are given, I'd ask them directly.
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On 12/17/18 11:37 AM, home user via users wrote:
> (Ed suggested)
>
> > gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false
> and
> > systemctl mask packagekit.service
>
> Thank-you, Ed. Do I need to do these once as root, or do I have to do these
> as each
> user on my workstation?
>
Certai
(Ed suggested)
> gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false
and
> systemctl mask packagekit.service
Thank-you, Ed. Do I need to do these once as root, or do I have to do
these as each user on my workstation?
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(Dave said)
> have you seen this wikipedia entry, "GNOME Software is a utility
> for software installation and updates..."
>
> I'm using a debian derivative but on my package manager it's
> described as "gnome-software", apparently from here:
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software
Before installi
On 12/17/18 6:56 AM, home user via users wrote:
> (F-28; gnome)
> In a posting in the "downsized grub menu" thread, I said:
> "Something keeps trying to do automated updates, but I have not been able to
> figure out
> what, or how to shut it off."
> Tim replied, and suggested looking for something
On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 15:56:57 -0700
home user via users wrote:
> (F-28; gnome)
> In a posting in the "downsized grub menu" thread, I said:
> "Something keeps trying to do automated updates, but I have not been
> able to figure out what, or how to shut it off."
> Tim replied, and suggested looking
(F-28; gnome)
In a posting in the "downsized grub menu" thread, I said:
"Something keeps trying to do automated updates, but I have not been
able to figure out what, or how to shut it off."
Tim replied, and suggested looking for something similar to MATE's
"mate-session-properties". I'm startin
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