Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-28 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > And there are (or were?) various apps that look to Network Manager > > to tell if you're off- or on- line. Felix Miata: > I don't know why apps would care. When I want to know, I look at the > LEDs on my router and/or modem and/or ethernet port Likewise... I found it a problem. If one

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-28 Thread Felix Miata
Tim composed on 2025-04-28 15:16 (UTC+0930): > On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 13:58 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Having no mobile computers, and none using wireless networking, I find >> myself to >> be the only network manager needed, and barely so, so have no network manager >> installed > It can stil

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread Tim via users
Tim via users: > > My internal DNS can obviously answer my LAN addressing queries, and > > it's set up to also resolve queries about internet addresses. It runs > > as a full server. No public server can answer queries about my LAN. Marco Moock: > Then only have the internal DNS set in your OS.

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 13:58 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Having no mobile computers, and none using wireless networking, I find myself > to > be the only network manager needed, and barely so, so have no network manager > installed It can still manage that *one* connection. And there are (or were

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread Felix Miata
nettle-3.10.1-1.fc42.x86_64 perl-libnet-3.15-513.fc42.noarch systemd-networkd-257.5-2.fc42.x86_64 # ls -gGh /etc/systemd/network /etc/*work* /etc/*ager* /etc/*solv* | sort ls: cannot access '/etc/*ager*': No such file or directory -rw-r--r-- 1 58 Mar 4 19:00 /etc/networks -rw-r--r-

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/27/25 3:46 AM, François Patte wrote: Le 27/04/2025 à 07:49, Samuel Sieb a écrit : On 4/26/25 2:05 PM, François Patte wrote: Le 24/04/2025 à 23:01, Jonathan Billings a écrit : On Apr 24, 2025, at 08:28, François Patte wrote: am a little bit confused about the dns : I have systemd

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread Marco Moock
Am 27.04.2025 um 20:42:23 Uhr schrieb Tim via users: > My internal DNS can obviously answer my LAN addressing queries, and > it's set up to also resolve queries about internet addresses. It runs > as a full server. No public server can answer queries about my LAN. Then only have the internal DN

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread Barry Scott
nswered and the others won't be queried. I think I read that systemd-resolved queries all servers in parallel and return the answer from the first server to respond? If the servers do not have consistent contents you see unexpected query results. Barry -- _

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 12:17 +0200, Marco Moock wrote: > Then you have a general problem. DNS is intended to give back the same > results for the same query - regardless which server you ask. Yes, and no. My internal DNS can obviously answer my LAN addressing queries, and it's set up to also resol

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread François Patte
Le 27/04/2025 à 07:49, Samuel Sieb a écrit : On 4/26/25 2:05 PM, François Patte wrote: Le 24/04/2025 à 23:01, Jonathan Billings a écrit : On Apr 24, 2025, at 08:28, François Patte wrote: am a little bit confused about the dns : I have systemd-resolved installed and when I list the content of

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread Marco Moock
e others. If it does respond (even if it doesn't have and > > results), it has answered and the others won't be queried. > > I think I read that systemd-resolved queries all servers in parallel > and return the answer from the first server to respond? > > If the se

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-27 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2025-04-26 at 23:05 +0200, François Patte wrote: > Current DNS Server: 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers: 80.67.169.12 80.67.169.40 192.168.1.1 Having multiple DNS servers, like that, *can* be a problem. It depends on your use case. The system will usually have a default server it querie

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/26/25 2:05 PM, François Patte wrote: Le 24/04/2025 à 23:01, Jonathan Billings a écrit : On Apr 24, 2025, at 08:28, François Patte wrote: am a little bit confused about the dns : I have systemd-resolved installed and when I list the content of the package (rpm -ql), I can read on the

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-26 Thread François Patte
Le 24/04/2025 à 23:01, Jonathan Billings a écrit : On Apr 24, 2025, at 08:28, François Patte wrote: am a little bit confused about the dns : I have systemd-resolved installed and when I list the content of the package (rpm -ql), I can read on the first line: /etc/systemd/resolved.conf But

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-24 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 24, 2025, at 08:28, François Patte wrote: > am a little bit confused about the dns : I have systemd-resolved installed > and when I list the content of the package (rpm -ql), I can read on the first > line: > > /etc/systemd/resolved.conf > > But there is no /etc/

Re: about systemd-resolved

2025-04-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/24/25 5:27 AM, François Patte wrote: I am a little bit confused about the dns : I have systemd-resolved installed and when I list the content of the package (rpm -ql), I can read on the first line: /etc/systemd/resolved.conf But there is no /etc/systemd/resolved.conf It's a ghost

about systemd-resolved

2025-04-24 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I am a little bit confused about the dns : I have systemd-resolved installed and when I list the content of the package (rpm -ql), I can read on the first line: /etc/systemd/resolved.conf But there is no /etc/systemd/resolved.conf There is a /usr/lib/systemd/resolved.conf but it

Re: Strange Systemd Messages

2025-03-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2025-03-20 at 05:06 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Wed, 2025-03-19 at 07:57 +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > > > The message is a bit arbitrary, but checking a network file system from > > > the remote is not intended IIRC, so disable the file system check > > > option in fstab. Do the checks

Re: Strange Systemd Messages

2025-03-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2025-03-20 at 08:36 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > *From:* Patrick O'Callaghan > > *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 March 2025 at 20:31 UTC+11 > > *To:* users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > *Subject:* RE: Strange Systemd Messages > > > > On Wed, 2025-0

Re: Strange Systemd Messages

2025-03-19 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2025-03-19 at 07:57 +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > > The message is a bit arbitrary, but checking a network file system from > > the remote is not intended IIRC, so disable the file system check > > option in fstab. Do the checks on the remote system. Patrick O'Callaghan: > Although the messa

RE: Strange Systemd Messages

2025-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris
*From:* Patrick O'Callaghan *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 March 2025 at 20:31 UTC+11 *To:* users@lists.fedoraproject.org *Subject:* RE: Strange Systemd Messages On Wed, 2025-03-19 at 07:57 +0100, Marco Moock wrote: That message is for an nfs network device while the same message at the bott

Re: Strange Systemd Messages

2025-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2025-03-19 at 07:57 +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > > That message is for an nfs network device while the same message at > > the bottom is for the cifs interface to the same device, but why is > > it saying that they are not a device when they were successfully > > mounted. Having said this th

Re: Strange Systemd Messages

2025-03-19 Thread Marco Moock
Am 19.03.2025 um 09:17:58 Uhr schrieb Stephen Morris: > On 18/3/25 17:45, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 18.03.2025 um 09:02:25 Uhr schrieb Stephen Morris: > > > >> [   69.310393] systemd-fstab-generator[1889]: Checking was > >> requested for "192.168.1.12:/mnt/

Re: Strange Systemd Messages

2025-03-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 18/3/25 17:45, Marco Moock wrote: Am 18.03.2025 um 09:02:25 Uhr schrieb Stephen Morris: [   69.310393] systemd-fstab-generator[1889]: Checking was requested for "192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2", but it is not a device. Please post /etc/fstab and check the last number in the line

Re: Systemd Craziness

2025-03-18 Thread Robert McBroom via users
ch=rawhide but it wasn't even built yet, nor merged to older releases than Rawhide. So I'm not sure what's going on there. I'm adding Zbyszek to CC, he is likely the most competent person to answer these behaviors related to that Change. That is an error message from systemd-s

Re: Strange Systemd Messages

2025-03-17 Thread Marco Moock
Am 18.03.2025 um 09:02:25 Uhr schrieb Stephen Morris: > [   69.310393] systemd-fstab-generator[1889]: Checking was requested > for "192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2", but it is not a device. Please post /etc/fstab and check the last number in the line. The sixth field (fs_pass

Strange Systemd Messages

2025-03-17 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     What do the following systemd messages mean, particularly the fstab ones about the specified address not being a device, particularly when the specified addresses have been mounted via fstab? [   69.310393] systemd-fstab-generator[1889]: Checking was requested for "192.168.1.12

Re: Systemd Craziness

2025-03-12 Thread Robert McBroom via users
merged to older releases than Rawhide. So I'm not sure what's going on there. I'm adding Zbyszek to CC, he is likely the most competent person to answer these behaviors related to that Change. That is an error message from systemd-sysusers, when it writing a new version of the groups file a

Re: Systemd Craziness

2025-03-11 Thread Jonathan Billings
ure about putting /etc/group in public. Before systemd-sys users was created, RPMs often added groups during install or updates. Not a huge surprise. > The pertinent section seems to be > > clevis:x:997: > input:x:996:root:rm3 > kvm:x:36:qemu,root > render:x:995: > systemd-journ

Re: Systemd Craziness

2025-03-09 Thread Robert McBroom via users
y the most competent person to answer these behaviors related to that Change. That is an error message from systemd-sysusers, when it writing a new version of the groups file and copying existing groups. It looks like the line for group 'input' is considered invalid for some reason. Ple

Re: Systemd Craziness

2025-03-09 Thread Michal Schorm
Databases Team Red Hat -- On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 5:45 PM Robert McBroom via users wrote: > > Updating f41 ends with messages. > > >>> Running trigger-install scriptlet: systemd-0:256.12-1.fc41.x86_64 > >>> Finished trigger-install scriptlet: systemd-0:256.12-1.f

Systemd Craziness

2025-03-09 Thread Robert McBroom via users
Updating f41 ends with messages. Running trigger-install scriptlet: systemd-0:256.12-1.fc41.x86_64 Finished trigger-install scriptlet: systemd-0:256.12-1.fc41.x86_64 Scriptlet output: Creating group 'passim' with GID 990. Creating user 'passim' (Local Caching Server) with

Re: How To show systemd services list in the order of they were started and stopped

2024-12-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
w.perplexity.ai/search/show-systemd-services-in-order-4NjYypTrQ0O6Ay6JLjYXVg poc -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedorapr

Re: How To show systemd services list in the order of they were started and stopped

2024-12-17 Thread Will McDonald
ey >> were stopped? >> > > I'm not on a machine with systemd at the moment but systemd-analyze looks > like it should help. > > > https://serverfault.com/questions/617398/is-there-a-way-to-see-the-execution-tree-of-systemd > https://www.baeldung.com/linux/systemd

Re: How To show systemd services list in the order of they were started and stopped

2024-12-17 Thread Will McDonald
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 11:13, Dario Lesca wrote: > What is the best way to show a list of services, in order of they were > started > > And what is the best way to show a list of services, in order of they > were stopped? > I'm not on a machine with systemd at the mom

How To show systemd services list in the order of they were started and stopped

2024-12-17 Thread Dario Lesca
What is the best way to show a list of services, in order of they were started And what is the best way to show a list of services, in order of they were stopped? Many thanks -- Dario Lesca (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 40 Workstation) -- ___

Re: Fedora 41 systemd or its dependencies now includes qemu

2024-12-05 Thread Patrick Mansfield via users
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 08:29:52PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:16 PM Patrick Mansfield via users > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:32:48AM -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > If you aren't using any containers, then it should be fine to remove. If > > > it's only

Re: Fedora 41 systemd or its dependencies now includes qemu

2024-12-05 Thread Stephen Morris
On 5/12/24 12:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:16 PM Patrick Mansfield via users wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:32:48AM -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: If you aren't using any containers, then it should be fine to remove. If it's only a recommends, then you could probably just u

Re: Fedora 41 systemd or its dependencies now includes qemu

2024-12-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:16 PM Patrick Mansfield via users wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:32:48AM -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > If you aren't using any containers, then it should be fine to remove. If > > it's only a recommends, then you could probably just uninstall qemu anyway. > > Why is

Re: Fedora 41 systemd or its dependencies now includes qemu

2024-12-04 Thread Patrick Mansfield via users
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:32:48AM -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > If you aren't using any containers, then it should be fine to remove. If > it's only a recommends, then you could probably just uninstall qemu anyway. > Why is it a problem to have qemu installed? I'd rather not have software installed

Re: Fedora 41 systemd or its dependencies now includes qemu

2024-12-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/4/24 9:59 AM, Patrick Mansfield via users wrote: On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:44:00AM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: Dave Close wrote: Patrick Mansfield wrote: Why does the most recent systemd update pull in qemu? That seems excessive. Currently running Fedora 41 with systemd version

Re: Fedora 41 systemd or its dependencies now includes qemu

2024-12-04 Thread Patrick Mansfield via users
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:44:00AM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Dave Close wrote: > > Patrick Mansfield wrote: > > > >> Why does the most recent systemd update pull in qemu? > >> That seems excessive. > >> > >> Currently running Fedora 41 with

Re: Fedora 41 systemd or its dependencies now includes qemu

2024-12-04 Thread Todd Zullinger
Dave Close wrote: > Patrick Mansfield wrote: > >> Why does the most recent systemd update pull in qemu? >> That seems excessive. >> >> Currently running Fedora 41 with systemd version 256.8-1, >> looks like the update moves me to systemd version >

Re: Fedora 41 systemd or its dependencies now includes qemu

2024-12-03 Thread Dave Close
Patrick Mansfield wrote: >Why does the most recent systemd update pull in qemu? >That seems excessive. > >Currently running Fedora 41 with systemd version 256.8-1, looks like >the update moves me to systemd version 256.9-2. My two systems running F41 include systemd 256.9-2 and

Fedora 41 systemd or its dependencies now includes qemu

2024-12-03 Thread Patrick Mansfield via users
Why does the most recent systemd update pull in qemu? That seems excessive. Currently running Fedora 41 with systemd version 256.8-1, looks like the update moves me to systemd version 256.9-2. -- Patrick -- ___ users mailing list -- users

Re: systemd configuration with service configuration check

2024-11-28 Thread Barry Scott
> On 28 Nov 2024, at 14:40, polak...@niif.hu wrote: > > This would make restarting less trouble because the system will *work* with > the old configuration. I do not think it will allow for this. Better that you get into the habit of checking the config after any change you make. Otherwise a

Re: systemd configuration with service configuration check

2024-11-28 Thread Barry Scott
> On 28 Nov 2024, at 14:40, polak...@niif.hu wrote: > > On the one hand, it is possible to check the configuration before starting, > e.g. "sshd -t". I am not sure what you expect this to help with. If the config is bad the service will not start. That is, I assume, exactly what having the s

systemd configuration with service configuration check

2024-11-28 Thread polakovi
Hi, Novice question: A service that can be run under systemd is given. On the one hand, it is possible to check the configuration before starting, e.g. "sshd -t". I would like a systemd configuration file that contains the configuration check. For this, the '[Service] ExecStart

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-10 Thread jarmo
points, systemd-resolved stops working. BUT Trustedqsl works and I need that working.. So, Now my choise is comment those out and use system-resolved as masked, and use self edited resolv.conf So, my point of vew, problem SOLVED. Another thing is, vhen TQSL corrects program to follow these new O

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-10 Thread jarmo
Sun, 10 Nov 2024 07:44:54 -0500 Jonathan Billings kirjoitti: >> Sadly, your excerpt from the journal starts *just* after anything > useful might have been recorded. It’s just systemd noise about the > service not failing and how it isn’t restarting it. > > But I can’t comme

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 10, 2024, at 03:04, jarmo wrote: > > I see no network, after starting computer, which I do very seldom, > only when there comes kernel update. > So network does not start at all and when doing journal query I get > this, what I sent before... > > journalctl -xeu sys

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-10 Thread jarmo
worth running memtest diagnostic to eliminate RAM issues. > > Barry When I upgraded into F41, everything worked fine, no problem. But afterward came some updates, started this systemd-resolved problem. I think, if there is HW problem, it should effect also, when I'm using th

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-10 Thread Barry
> On 10 Nov 2024, at 08:04, jarmo wrote: > > I see no network, after starting computer What does `ip addr` report when you have “no network”? I wonder if you have a hardware problem? Might be worth running memtest diagnostic to eliminate RAM issues. Barry -- __

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-10 Thread jarmo
Fri, 8 Nov 2024 23:14:57 + Barry kirjoitti: > > On 8 Nov 2024, at 13:19, jarmo wrote: > > > > Had to install inxi first :) > > Thanks for the info. > > Do you see systemd-resolved failing immediately after you first login? > Or does if fail after you

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-08 Thread Barry
> On 8 Nov 2024, at 13:19, jarmo wrote: > > Had to install inxi first :) Thanks for the info. Do you see systemd-resolved failing immediately after you first login? Or does if fail after you have been using the system for a little while? After it fails do you see any journal logs

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-08 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-11-08 at 01:19 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Disabling a service only lasts until the next (re)boot. And it does > not stop currently executing services, and the service can still be > started in the current session. Not quite the full picture, not in general, even if that was a spec

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-08 Thread jarmo
Fri, 8 Nov 2024 12:58:16 + Barry Scott kirjoitti: > > I asked for `inxi -Fzxx` that will provide a lot of info beyond RAM > can you provide that? > > FYI I use `free -h` so that the numbers are easier to read. > > Barry Had to install inxi first :) Below is with sys

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-08 Thread Barry Scott
> On 8 Nov 2024, at 09:44, jarmo wrote: > > Fri, 8 Nov 2024 09:06:46 + > Barry kirjoitti: > >>> On 8 Nov 2024, at 06:02, jarmo wrote: >>> >>> Process: 19413 ExecStart=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-resolved >>> (code=exited, status=1/

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-08 Thread jarmo
Fri, 8 Nov 2024 09:06:46 + Barry kirjoitti: > > On 8 Nov 2024, at 06:02, jarmo wrote: > > > > Process: 19413 ExecStart=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-resolved > > (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Main PID: 19413 (code=exited, > > status=1/FAILURE) Error: 12

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-08 Thread Barry
> On 8 Nov 2024, at 06:02, jarmo wrote: > > Process: 19413 ExecStart=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-resolved (code=exited, > status=1/FAILURE) > Main PID: 19413 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) > Error: 12 (Muistin varaaminen ei onnistu) This is ENOMEM and that implie

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-07 Thread jarmo
ant to permanently disable the service, you must mask it. > > Also see the systemctl docs, > <https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemctl.html>. > > Jeff Don't get me wrong, I want that service also working, but I have no idea, how to do. So I made thi

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 1:02 AM jarmo wrote: > [...] > > So, I disable systemd-resolved and manually create /etc/resolv.conf > to get my network working. Disabling a service only lasts until the next (re)boot. And it does not stop currently executing services, and the service

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-07 Thread jarmo
Thu, 7 Nov 2024 22:10:31 + Barry kirjoitti: > > On 7 Nov 2024, at 17:31, Barry wrote: > > > > What is the output of systemctl status systemd-networkd? > > Sorry i mean the output of systemctl status systemd-resolved ! > > Barry > systemctl

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-07 Thread Barry
> On 7 Nov 2024, at 17:31, Barry wrote: > > What is the output of systemctl status systemd-networkd? Sorry i mean the output of systemctl status systemd-resolved ! Barry -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: Systemd-resolved

2024-11-07 Thread Barry
> On 7 Nov 2024, at 15:08, jarmo wrote: > > Won't start, claims something about memory, > sorry, can't specify, made local resolv.conf > to get network running.. What is the output of systemctl status systemd-networkd? > > It is enabled by default, I disabled

Systemd-resolved

2024-11-07 Thread jarmo
Won't start, claims something about memory, sorry, can't specify, made local resolv.conf to get network running.. It is enabled by default, I disabled to get self edited dns query working.. Fedora 41 xfce4 Jarmo -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists

Re: systemd-sysusers problem

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/29/24 14:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/24 14:01, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 Which should I have? systemd-standalone-sysusers  or systemd? Just checked my Xfce Live USB.  It is systemd Cancel the request. It is an issue with lightdm. I replace it

Re: systemd-sysusers start fails

2024-11-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/29/24 17:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 systemd-254.19-1.fc39.x86_64 (provides systemd-sysusers) I can not get lightdm to start Xfc or MATE.  After entering my password into the greeter, I get a black screen with a mouse pointer, then back to the greeter. When I

systemd-sysusers start fails

2024-10-29 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Fedora 39 systemd-254.19-1.fc39.x86_64 (provides systemd-sysusers) I can not get lightdm to start Xfc or MATE. After entering my password into the greeter, I get a black screen with a mouse pointer, then back to the greeter. When I start lighdm, it see Failed to start systemd

Re: systemd-sysusers problem

2024-10-29 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/29/24 14:01, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Fedora 39 Which should I have? systemd-standalone-sysusers  or systemd? Just checked my Xfce Live USB. It is systemd -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

systemd-sysusers problem

2024-10-29 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Fedora 39 Which should I have? systemd-standalone-sysusers or systemd? # dnf install systemd-standalone-sysusers --allowerasing Last metadata expiration check: 0:14:46 ago on Tue 29 Oct 2024 01:43:41 PM PDT. Dependencies resolved

Re: systemd

2024-09-16 Thread Barry
> On 16 Sep 2024, at 19:51, Robert McBroom via users > wrote: > > As more and more things get fed into systemd, is there a resource to > actually follow using it? You mean documentation? There are the man pages that are a good reference. If you start with the this one h

systemd

2024-09-16 Thread Robert McBroom via users
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Re: Fedora 40 server - /etc/systemd/*.conf files missing etc

2024-08-10 Thread Franta Hanzlík via users
On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 15:27:05 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > I wrote: > > These files are marked %ghost to prevents them from being > > removed *if they existed and were modified* prior to commit > > 4c7acde (Do not remove modified config files, 2023-12-13)¹ > > on th

Re: Fedora 40 server - /etc/systemd/*.conf files missing etc

2024-08-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
I wrote: > These files are marked %ghost to prevents them from being > removed *if they existed and were modified* prior to commit > 4c7acde (Do not remove modified config files, 2023-12-13)¹ > on the f40 branch of the systemd package. > > ¹ https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms

Re: Fedora 40 server - /etc/systemd/*.conf files missing etc

2024-08-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
k into it more closely... These files are marked %ghost to prevents them from being removed *if they existed and were modified* prior to commit 4c7acde (Do not remove modified config files, 2023-12-13)¹ on the f40 branch of the systemd package. ¹ https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/systemd/c/4c7acde --

Re: Fedora 40 server - /etc/systemd/*.conf files missing etc

2024-08-10 Thread Franta Hanzlík via users
a crashdump in /var/spool/abrt/ directory after I install the debuginfo > > package - although it did before... > > > > I had an idea that some limits for systemd-coredump might need to be > > increased. But I'm surprised and I can't explain why the configuration >

Re: Fedora 40 server - /etc/systemd/*.conf files missing etc

2024-08-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
did before... I had an idea that some limits for systemd-coredump might need to be increased. But I'm surprised and I can't explain why the configuration files of the systemd daemon are completely missing in the system - those under the /etd/systemd/ directory (system.conf, us

Fedora 40 server - /etc/systemd/*.conf files missing etc

2024-08-10 Thread Franta Hanzlík via users
My actual problem is other: I want somehow debug program (ISC bind daemon) crashes. And I'm trying to figure out why abrt doesn't create a crashdump in /var/spool/abrt/ directory after I install the debuginfo package - although it did before... I had an idea that some limits f

Re: How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-05 Thread R. G. Newbury
. I threw in the towel and just edited /lib/systemd/system/httpd.service and commented this setting out, entirely, to finally fix this issue, and happy git pushing resumed. But how do I fix this so that the next apache update doesn't clobber this? I think a better choice is to leave the sy

Re: How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-05 Thread Todd Zullinger
and "false", >> but if so, what's "ProtectHome=yes" is all about? > > I'd suggest reporting a documentation bug. It's the only > way this will ever be clarified. I think people generally > don't bother reporting this kind of thing (and I inc

Re: How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2024-06-05 at 06:41 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Good luck finding where this is documented in the  > man pages, for overrides. There were barrels of laughs in > systemd.exec(5).  > First, there are several instances of "ProtectHome=yes" sprinkled in > random  > places. Then, when you

Re: How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-05 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Felix Miata writes: > I tried using > systemctl edit httpd > And putting this in there: > [Service] > ProtectHome= > However this apparently did not work. Please show us the override file in /etc/systemd* that resulted from your edits. Using systemctl edit for for

Re: How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-04 Thread Felix Miata
it tried to write to the git repo. > Amusing. > To make a long story short, the culprit was: > ProtectHome=read-only > in /lib/systemd/system/httpd.service,(the git repo was in a directory inside > a mounted /home partition). > I tried using > systemctl edit h

Re: How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
it tried to write to the git repo. > > Amusing. > > To make a long story short, the culprit was: > > ProtectHome=read-only > > in /lib/systemd/system/httpd.service,(the git repo was in a directory inside > a mounted /home partition). > > I tried using >

Re: How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-04 Thread Richard Shaw
S when it tried to write to the git repo. > > Amusing. > > To make a long story short, the culprit was: > > ProtectHome=read-only > > in /lib/systemd/system/httpd.service,(the git repo was in a directory > inside > a mounted /home partition). > > I tried using

Re: How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-04 Thread Roger Heflin
e failing. > > Eventually I succeeded in stracing the httpd process sto capture the > request. It was getting an EROFS when it tried to write to the git repo. > > Amusing. > > To make a long story short, the culprit was: > > ProtectHome=read-only > > in /lib/systemd/s

How to remove settings from a systemd unit file

2024-06-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
culprit was: ProtectHome=read-only in /lib/systemd/system/httpd.service,(the git repo was in a directory inside a mounted /home partition). I tried using systemctl edit httpd And putting this in there: [Service] ProtectHome= However this apparently did not work. I threw in the towel and

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-12 Thread Barry Scott
> On 12 Apr 2024, at 05:42, Mike Wright wrote: > > Reason is because .socket files will activate their corresponding service > files REGARDLESS of masking or disabling. A masked service cannot do anything as masking replaced it with /dev/null. Barry -- __

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-12 Thread Barry Scott
> On 11 Apr 2024, at 12:59, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > What I do see, though, is that we have both NetworkManager-wait-online and > systemd-networkd-wait-online. Why do we need both of them? It's odd that both are enabled. On my kde plasma Vm only NetworkManager-wait-

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-11 Thread Mike Wright
On 4/11/24 15:08, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 6:01 PM Sam Varshavchik wrote: Tim via users writes: "The service systemd-networkd-wait-online.service invokes systemd- networkd-wait-online without any options. Thus, it waits for all managed interfaces to be configur

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 6:01 PM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Tim via users writes: > > > "The service systemd-networkd-wait-online.service invokes systemd- > > networkd-wait-online without any options. Thus, it waits for all > > managed interfaces to be configured or

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-11 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tim via users writes: "The service systemd-networkd-wait-online.service invokes systemd- networkd-wait-online without any options. Thus, it waits for all managed interfaces to be configured or failed, and for at least one to be online." Could it be that you have some additional

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-11 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-04-11 at 07:59 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > What I do see, though, is that we have both NetworkManager-wait- > online and systemd-networkd-wait-online. Why do we need both of them? > > I simply disabled systemd-networkd-wait-online, and that seems to > so

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-11 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Roger Heflin writes: Run this: systemd-analyze critical-chain network-online.target Can you explain why you think inspecting dependencies and starting times of different systemd units would have any bearing on why a single unit, systemd- network, is blowing chunks? Wasn't it clear fr

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-10 Thread Roger Heflin
Run this: systemd-analyze critical-chain network-online.target On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 6:20 AM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Samuel Sieb writes: > > > I have a similar problem where the wait-online service suddenly started > > taking a very long time and then failing. My sys

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Samuel Sieb writes: I have a similar problem where the wait-online service suddenly started taking a very long time and then failing. My system that used to boot in a few seconds now takes over a minute. So I have two questions. What is it waiting for? My main ethernet card gets an addre

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
dress, and I determined that > keepalived simply started after quite a bit of time elapsed before systemd > deemed it necessary to start keepalived. And when I tried to figure out > why's that, I discovered this to be the culprit. You say that networking is working, but is whatev

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-10 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 23:20 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > Perhaps more importantly, why can't that happen in the background? Why > does gdm care if the network is connected? It'd need to be *if* people are using a network share for their homespace, or other "expected to be there" directories. And

Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out

2024-04-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/9/24 19:12, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I've been made aware that it takes two minutes for systemd-networkd-wait-online.service to spin its wheels, before giving up with a squeal: Apr 09 22:03:30 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting systemd-networkd-wait-online.service - Wai

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