Am 13.02.2012 00:50, schrieb Alan Cox:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:34:03 -0700
> Greg Woods wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 20:18 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>> Greg Woods writes:
>>>
As has been mentioned in other threads, grub2 requires 2048 sectors at
the start of the disk
>>>
>>
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:34:03 -0700
Greg Woods wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 20:18 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > Greg Woods writes:
> >
> > > As has been mentioned in other threads, grub2 requires 2048 sectors at
> > > the start of the disk
> >
> > Not exactly. This generally happens only w
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Greg Woods wrote:
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 20:18 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Greg Woods writes:
> As has been mentioned in other threads, grub2 requires 2048 sectors at
> the start of the disk
Not exactly. This generally happens only with mdraid volumes. Without
mdraid, gr
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 20:18 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Greg Woods writes:
>
> > As has been mentioned in other threads, grub2 requires 2048 sectors at
> > the start of the disk
>
> Not exactly. This generally happens only with mdraid volumes. Without
> mdraid, grub2 should fit within 63 se
> The bottom line is that grub's days are numbered. grub2 is the future. No
> amount of complaining is going to change that. Even if someone stepped up to
> the plate and volunteered to maintain grub going forward, I wouldn't rely on
> it, in perpetuity.
grub2 is not the future. Grub2 is an
On 02/12/2012 03:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.02.2012 04:53, schrieb Joe Zeff:
On 02/11/2012 07:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
this is only a minus for GRUB2
And it's only a one-time problem. Once you've done it you'll never have to do
it again.
you missed the "20 machines"?
No, be
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 22:20 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> The bottom line is that grub's days are numbered. grub2 is the future.
> No amount of complaining is going to change that. Even if someone
> stepped up to the plate and volunteered to maintain grub going
> forward, I wouldn't rely on it, i
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 13:48 -0700, JD wrote:
> I can tell you my "Oh crap " after installing F16!
> The latest version of Gnome does not give the gnome login prompt. Only
> a black screen.
> My GPU is the legacy ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/M10.
> So, I have no idea if the problem is with Gnome 3,
Am 12.02.2012 04:53, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 02/11/2012 07:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> this is only a minus for GRUB2
>
> And it's only a one-time problem. Once you've done it you'll never have to
> do it again.
you missed the "20 machines"?
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On 02/11/2012 07:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
this is only a minus for GRUB2
And it's only a one-time problem. Once you've done it you'll never have
to do it again.
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Am 12.02.2012 04:20, schrieb Sam Varshavchik:
>> this is a practical question because i have 20 virtual servers
>> installed/cloned 2008 with the old layout, no RAID because this
>> is provided by the SAN-STorage behind
>
> Well, if I were you, I'd start figuring out what to do about it, now.
>
Reindl Harald writes:
> Not exactly. This generally happens only with mdraid volumes. Without
mdraid, grub2 should
> fit within 63 sectors, and one of my laptops was succesfully upgraded to
F16+grub2, and
> everything got squeezed into the 63 sectors.
the main question here is: was this luc
On 02/11/2012 01:04 PM, JD wrote:
You lost me there! What's a DE? :)
Desktop Environment. Try installing either KDE or XFCE and see if
either of them works.
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Am 12.02.2012 02:18, schrieb Sam Varshavchik:
> Greg Woods writes:
>
>> As has been mentioned in other threads, grub2 requires 2048 sectors at
>> the start of the disk. If you were upgrading from a previous version,
>> chances are your disk is not partitioned this way, but instead has only
>> 63
Greg Woods writes:
As has been mentioned in other threads, grub2 requires 2048 sectors at
the start of the disk. If you were upgrading from a previous version,
chances are your disk is not partitioned this way, but instead has only
63 sectors at the start of the disk. In this event, if you attem
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 12:38 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 02/11/2012 12:18 PM, JD wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is it even possible to boot F16 using Grub 1?
>
> AIUI, if you upgrade to F16 you will end up with both versions of grub
> installed but will still be using legacy grub. You have to run
> grub2-in
My desktop PC is organized something like this:
sda1: Windows
sda2: Boot
sda3: data
sda4: extended partition container
sda5: F15
sda6: F16
sda7: Rawhide
sda8: more data
Until I was confident grub2 would work for me, sda2 held a copy of
legacy grub, which I configured to chainload the various Fedo
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:48 PM, JD wrote:
> I can tell you my "Oh crap " after installing F16!
> The latest version of Gnome does not give the gnome login prompt. Only a
> black screen.
> My GPU is the legacy ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/M10.
> So, I have no idea if the problem is with Gnome 3,
Am 11.02.2012 22:04, schrieb JD:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>
>> On 02/11/2012 12:48 PM, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> So, I have no idea if the problem is with Gnome 3, or with the latest X
>>> driver for my chipset.
>>
>>
>> Use a cli to install a different DE and see if that runs
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> On 02/11/2012 12:48 PM, JD wrote:
>>
>> So, I have no idea if the problem is with Gnome 3, or with the latest X
>> driver for my chipset.
>
>
> Use a cli to install a different DE and see if that runs. Either way, you'll
> probably know where
On 02/11/2012 12:48 PM, JD wrote:
So, I have no idea if the problem is with Gnome 3, or with the latest X
driver for my chipset.
Use a cli to install a different DE and see if that runs. Either way,
you'll probably know where the trouble is.
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On 02/11/2012 12:39 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I feel more like killing something than
writing down what, if anything, I learned.
The result is that the next install doesn't go any better than the previous.
Take notes as you go along. By hand, if you don't have a better way.
Until you can re
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> On 02/11/2012 12:01 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've never had an install go right the first time.
>>>
>>
>> Have you ever tried to find out why? Part
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 02/11/2012 12:18 PM, JD wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Is it even possible to boot F16 using Grub 1?
>>
>
> AIUI, if you upgrade to F16 you will end up with both versions of grub
> installed but will still be using legacy grub. You have to run
> grub2-ins
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, JD wrote:
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
I've never had an install go right the first time.
Adding to the fear and trepidation, is the change from grub to grub2.
I'd like to be sure that after the disaster I can b
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/11/2012 12:01 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I've never had an install go right the first time.
Have you ever tried to find out why? Part of the testing every new
I know part of the reason.
Long before the struggle is over,
I feel more like killing
On 02/11/2012 12:18 PM, JD wrote:
Is it even possible to boot F16 using Grub 1?
AIUI, if you upgrade to F16 you will end up with both versions of grub
installed but will still be using legacy grub. You have to run
grub2-install yourself. I've no idea why, or why the upgrade process
doesn
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
> As F14 is EOL, I'm planning to install F16 real soon now.
> The plan is to install F16 on a completely different set of partitions.
> I've never had an install go right the first time.
> Adding to the fear
On 02/11/2012 12:01 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I've never had an install go right the first time.
Have you ever tried to find out why? Part of the testing every new
version of Fedora is supposed to go through is making sure that it will
install correctly on as many different configurations
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Michael Hennebry wrote:
As F14 is EOL, I'm planning to install F16 real soon now.
The plan is to install F16 on a completely different set of partitions.
I've never had an install go right the first time.
Adding to the fear and trepidation, is the change from grub to grub2.
As F14 is EOL, I'm planning to install F16 real soon now.
The plan is to install F16 on a completely different set of partitions.
I've never had an install go right the first time.
Adding to the fear and trepidation, is the change from grub to grub2.
I'd like to be sure that after the disaster I c
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